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"New" Words From the Geek Culture

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the bonny-earl-of-murray dept.

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thatskinnyguy sends news of Merriam-Webster's 2008 list of new words and, to no-one's surprise, a good number of them come out of geek culture: words like webinar, malware, netroots, pretexting, and fanboy are now official words according to M-W. The CNet article pulls out one "new" word for special appreciation — mondegreen — and, while the article gets the origin right, it ends with a lame call for readers to send in their favorite mondegreens. (CNet does have the good grace to link the Kiss This Guy site.) SFGate columnist Jon Carroll has been collecting readers' mondegreens since 1995 and his list is bound to be better. Quoting Carroll, in a prophetic mode: "This space has been for some years the chief publicity agent for mondegreens. The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?

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Is it wrong... (4, Insightful)

ickoonite (639305) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113125)

...that I don't know what almost all these words mean? What is a "webinar" for example? I guess I'm just not cool anymore... :|

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113137)

Webinar : Seminar on the web, usually using youtube, flash or some other video/podcast like medium.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113477)

Unfortunately the parent's name is unknown, or we'd have a good candidate for a new word to denote a dim pillock who explains jokes. And, while the angels weep, gets modded up for it.

Turing test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114271)

On Internet, nobody knows you are an AI script ... until you show the lack of sense of humor. It's our last line of online defense against Skynet infiltrators!

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Insightful)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114287)

No, I don't think webinar's geek word... it sounds disturbingly like a... BUZZWORD!

Disown it!

And seriously, what does mondegreen have to do with geek either -- nor is it in any way a new word. This seems like a another sockpuppet article designed to generate traffic for a website.

Re:Is it wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24115413)

I believe you mean, "dipwn it."

Thanks.

Newsflash (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116065)

"This seems like a another sockpuppet article designed to generate traffic for a website."

Don't tell anyone, but articles - in newspapers or on the web - are almost always written to generate "traffic". This is true even for "free" publications, which get funded by advertising commensurate to their volume of readership. Shhh ....

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

Fear the Clam (230933) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114557)

Webinar : Seminar on the web, usually using youtube, flash or some other video/podcast like medium, used by people who have only attended lecture-format courses.

You see, the problem with "webinars" is that in actual practice they have little to do with interactive discussion and everything to do with a lecture.

Re:Is it wrong... (5, Funny)

Freaky Spook (811861) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113229)


What is a "webinar" for example?

It was invented by a group of HR people. They needed a cool new word for "webcast", so people wouldn't get angry when they found out that instead of spending a week at retreat on professional development, they were to be locked in a room with a projector instead.

Re:Is it wrong... (5, Insightful)

Brain Damaged Bogan (1006835) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113287)

"web seminar" it's not a geek term at all, but a marketing one. my old boss used to love these damn things and every time he'd say the word "webinar" a peice of me died a little inside

Re:Is it wrong... (3, Funny)

techpawn (969834) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115015)

every time he'd say the word "webinar" a peice of me died a little inside

THANK YOU
First time I heard this was from our marketing guy my response was along the lines of a shutter and yelling at him to NEVER use that word again in front of me. They are web presentations. Webinar is a new word for the bullsh*t bingo card.

Re:Is it wrong... (2, Interesting)

sg3000 (87992) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115157)

There are lots of words that marketing drones create that are irritating, but "webinar" has a purpose.

A webinar -- in the context my company uses it -- is more like a web-based seminar. Both a seminar and a webinar are targeted to an external audience (outside the company), have a moderator (usually a third party person), and may be hosted by more than one company. A webinar is more expensive than just a regular "web presentation" since there's some logistics involved (hiring a third party to set it up and manage it, managing invitation lists, having an operator manage who joins the bridge, etc.), but it's not nearly as expensive as a seminar.

A webinar is different from a web presentation in that the seminar (or webinar) are intended to be informative speaker-lead discussions for a relatively open audience. A web presentation would be more generic, and could encompass an internal meeting, a sales presentation, or something else.

So I think "webinar" is reasonable because it conveys a specific, useful meaning.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115993)

You're a marketer aren't you?

Re:Is it wrong... (5, Funny)

flaming error (1041742) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113289)

webinar, n:
1) something formed by or as if by weaving. There's a spider webinar garage

Re:Is it wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113357)

Yer otter submit that to ole' Foxworthy.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113679)

I don't care who you are, that's fox worthy right there.

Re:Is it wrong... (5, Funny)

TheMidnight (1055796) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113303)

I find it egregious that it took until 2007 to add "w00t" to the dictionary. I was using w00t back in the Warcraft II and Command & Conquer days.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some juvenile delinquents that I need to evict from my grass.

hah (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113953)

wc2 and c&c are days that are not so old, "paps"

Re:hah (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114821)

There not that old, but they were among the first batch to have network play - I can't think of any before those that supported in-game messaging.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

TomRK1089 (1270906) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114789)

You insensitive clod, for me it still is the Command and Conquer days!

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

guruevi (827432) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115155)

I've always wondered, how do you get a yard in your parents' basement? And if you had an hydrophonic yard, wouldn't juveniles be committing burglary when they're there?

Quit your bitching (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116179)

My 93-year-old grandfather died last year, after waiting over 80 years for "skiddoo" to be added (to no avail). And you have the nerve to bitch about having to wait a few years?!?!

Re:Is it wrong... (5, Interesting)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113391)

Even if you can guess what it means, it's always good fun to pounce on neologisms and jargon and grill the user why they are using them instead of a more traditional word. My Dad told me a great story. He worked for the University which was under pressure from its new Thatcher appointed Vice Chancellor to be more 'commercially oriented' while no one really knew in practice what this meant. The VC gave a speech full or management consultancyisms and uses the word proactive. Someone stood up and asked him if he meant active. The VC blusters and the questioner keeps arguing. After a very long time the VC says "ok, you win I meant active". The questioner sat down. The VC delivered the rest of the speech without much enthusiasm and left without allowing questions from the floor.

Re:Is it wrong... (3, Informative)

genik76 (1193359) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113685)

Proactive is the opposite of reactive, which are both something else than "active". Maybe you could say that proactive and reactive as words are refinements of the word active, which the VC apparently failed to communicate.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Insightful)

MrNemesis (587188) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113915)

Primarily because, in my experience, most users of the word "pro-active" are unaware of it's anti-reactive connotations and use it to describe singularly reactive situations ("I want us to respond to this pro-actively"), or even in just syntax-ruining "I've learnt a cool new word" non-sequiturs ("our new rubber grommets have a 100% pro-active paradigm"). In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it because they think it sounds More Important than "active" or lack the vocabulary to better describe it.

It's kinda acceptable in most sysadmin circles as most geeks are aware of things like "pro-active" support (I prefer to call it preventative maintenance myself since it means less fuzzyness for the recipient, which we abbreviate to premaint in conversation) but neologisms are mostly a matter of taste. /spot the word-snob ;)

Re:Is it wrong... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114757)

In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it

The Guide to Alot
a lot many Steph had a lot of apples.
allot to divide They alloted 2 apples per person
alot no meaning I found alot of errors in there post!

Re:Is it wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114809)

"I'm convinced that alot of people"

and then you go on to say

"/spot the word-snob"

I am doubting that you are a word snob. "alot" isn't a word.

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

drooling-dog (189103) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114943)

"I want us to respond to this pro-actively"

I like that one. I think I'll use it today, just to see if anyone catches the oxymoron.

BTW, being "proactive" is what we used to call "taking initiative", but I suppose that phrase may have had its origin in management-speak, as well...

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115505)

"Proactive" is a perfectly good English word. It just sucks when management/consultant types misuse it while trying to sound clever.

This is usually done by the sort of person who says "utilise" instead of "use" and doesn't know the difference between the nouns "use" and "usage".

Re:Is it wrong... (2, Insightful)

ad0n (1171681) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115823)

It's like listening to a police officer giving testimony in court (and trying to sound more intelligent).

"I proceeded to approach the accused. Afterwhich, I proceeded to question the individual and ..... "

What ever happened to good, clean use of language?

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115065)

You must experience a lot of stupid people.

I usually hear it being used correctly; for example, "we need to tackle the problem of the population getting ill proactively".

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114079)

Proactive is the opposite of reactive, which are both something else than "active".

You know that and I know that, but apparently the VC giving the speech didn't know that, and the questioner successfully called his bluff. The point isn't that the words don't have useful meanings, it's that people use them to hype up their message without actually knowing those useful meanings.

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113871)

If I was VC and some little tosspot interrupted me like that, I'd tell him to fuck right off. You can do that when you're VC.

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114253)

I don't think he could. The guy interrupting him had tenure, and the VC was new to the job. Telling him to fuck off would probably have been fatal to the VC's career.

Re:Is it wrong... (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116147)

Even if the VC can't exactly boot him out directly there are ways and means. Allocate him the office next to the toilet that always blocks up. Make sure he gets the worst classes to teach. Lose his paperwork - whatever it's for. Tenure schmenure.

Re:Is it wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113899)

He worked for the University which was under pressure from its new Thatcher appointed Vice Chancellor to be more 'commercially oriented' while no one really knew in practice what this meant.

How about coming up with a set of grades to cover all the students using a bell curve and then auctioning them grades off?

Re:Is it wrong... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115409)

I guess I'm just not cool anymore...

Oh, dear. Epic coolness fail! Newspeak is made of win. You are not a legend.

On the etymology of mondegreen (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116049)

Mondegreen: Named after Lord Alfred Fredrick Mondegreen of Cornwall, who legend has it was was a total poseur douche when it came to music.

Eye Four One... (2, Funny)

MrKane (804219) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113167)

...personally enjoy being able to watch languages evolve, but, "Webinar"?!

It should only be used in the phrase:
"What in the webinar you doing, scumm!?"

I prefer the acronym, OCS: Online Collaborative Seminar.

Re:Eye Four One... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113453)

If Merriam-Webster is going to start adding geek words (though the ones added are of a questionable credibility), I petition that they also add geek words with much more historical and cultural significance.

Yes, it is time a major dictionary added the word 'goatse'. But they should hide it in a tiny locked compartment in the back of the dictionary to seal up the evil it contains. Precautions must be taken to prevent unsuspecting people from accidentally reading words of this much power.

Dear Merriam-Webster: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113171)

You spelled "fanboi" wrong.

Sincerely,

AC

Geek words are generally listed in the Jargon File (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113173)

These words are just hipster-speak. Wired would be proud (but probably disappointed that they didn't get "triple-dub" in the dictionary).

New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113197)

Witness the birth of a new geek word on Arstechnica forum:

pludge
verb
1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/953002313931

The thread is now the third link on Google if you search for the word.

Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113361)

if i had mod points, i'd mod you up! (btw, it was number 1 on google for me)

SCNR (4, Funny)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113763)

pludge verb 1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

syn. "use Gentoo Linux"

Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago (1)

hotfireball (948064) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115027)

pludge
verb
1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

This often happens with Linux fanboys... :-)

Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116079)

As in "You should never pludge an Ubuntu pre-release version."

or

"Why did so many clueless Microsoft-genuflecting fanbois pludge Vista?"

And finally,

P1: "Slashdot was down all day yesterday".
P2: "Yeah, what happened?"
P3: "I heard pudge pludged the latest Fedora."

Google?? (1)

William Robinson (875390) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113199)

What about Google? It has almost replaced 'search this on web' phrase.

To a geek, 'google for SSL' makes sense.

Re:Google?? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113255)

What about Google? It has almost replaced 'search this on web' phrase.

To a geek, 'google for SSL' makes sense.

Google's lawyers are hard at work to make sure that their trademark doesn't become a verb and fall to common use status (nullifying the trademark).

Re:Google?? (1)

kdemetter (965669) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114251)

Google's lawyers are hard at work to make sure that their trademark doesn't become a verb and fall to common use status (nullifying the trademark).

They should be happy , it's free advertisement.
Then again , they might see that as competition ( they are in the ad business )

Re:Google?? (1)

v1k (958019) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114663)

It's free advertising for a while -- do you think the verb "xeroxing" is still helping Xerox?

Re:Google?? (2, Informative)

Random Destruction (866027) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114799)

Yes. By adding a familiarity to the brand name if nothing else.

Re:Google?? (2, Funny)

BlackCobra43 (596714) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114729)

All Google has to do is show they're trying to supress unauthorized verbing. It's for the best, really.

Verbing weirds nouns.

For shame (5, Insightful)

consonant (896763) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113249)

I realize being a language Nazi is nerdy, even by Slashdot standards, but this summary is just shockingly awful!

The headline reads "\"New\" Words From The Geek Culture". So the summary starts off with a single line on it, then randomly rambles on about CNet focusing on 'mondegreens'. Bzzt! Summary-headline mismatch already! Now it's possible that kdawson is just mimicking TFA, which does the same, but that's a frcikin' blog post! Somehow, a rambling blog post has been distilled into (if it's possible) a fumbly summary as well!

All this meandering is topped off with a quite inexplicable question: "Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?"

Seriously, WTF?

Re:For shame (3, Insightful)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113423)

Coherence and originality as so Web 1.0. The Web 2.0 way is to get a bunch of uncredited articles and make a 'mashup' of them.

Mind you, Mondegreen is a cool invention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen [wikipedia.org]

Re:For shame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114077)

You must be new here.

Re:For shame (1)

Narpak (961733) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114745)

Indeed. It is pretty ironic that a submission about words is that badly writen.

I guess I might also be a bit of a language nerd. Rarely do I use "new" words when I write something, unless it is so someone I know very well. If I write something on the internet I try to be as easy to understand as I can make it. Often using new or complex words seem to distract or confuse; and language is supposed to inform and enlighten.

However adding new words is good, no doubt about that. But the word have to be commonly known for it to be viable for practical use. Unless of course you know that the only ones reading your post/article is already in the know.

Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's? (1)

Eternal Vigilance (573501) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113381)

"How about a newspaper columnist and few geeks on the net?"

meh, Webster's (4, Funny)

ya really (1257084) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113387)

I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling [merriam-webster.com] to its dictionary. Noah Webster would be angered by the himbos [merriam-webster.com] now in charge of his publication. Perhaps the publishers are just part of the Sandwich generation [merriam-webster.com] and spend too much time with their parents while their mouse potato [merriam-webster.com] kids edit the dictionary for them.

Re:meh, Webster's (4, Insightful)

StrawberryFrog (67065) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113555)

I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary.

Why shouldn't a dictionary have that word? People are going to use it, and other people are going to want to know what it means. A dictionary would be failing them by not including it.

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

ya really (1257084) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113643)

Why shouldn't a dictionary have that word? People are going to use it, and other people are going to want to know what it means. A dictionary would be failing them by not including it.

But how many times have you used mouse potato since 1993?

Re:meh, Webster's (4, Insightful)

ya really (1257084) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113745)

In my honest opinion, I think Webster's adds buzz words like these mostly knowing it will give them free advertisement when the media lets everyone know what pop culture words are now somewhat legit. Dictionaries dont really need to add nonsense words that tend to be slang or are too silly to ever be used outside of a joke (looking at you webinar). For words like these, there's always urbandictionary.com. After all, wikipedia may have an article on Jenna Jameson [wikipedia.org] , but Britannica [britannica.com] does not.

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116017)

I see the word webinar being used a lot now in my area of financial services. It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Re:meh, Webster's (3, Insightful)

digitig (1056110) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114121)

But how many times have you used mouse potato since 1993?

Isn't that exactly why it should be in a dictionary? Somebody reading something from the early 1990s might come across it and want to check their understanding of the meaning. If I'm reading old literature I'm rather glad that my dictionary includes "sweven" and "parfay" precisely because I don't normally use those words.

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

I cant believe its n (1103137) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114971)

So, what are you saying you mouse potato? That I'm old fashioned?

(As a not native english speaker, this phrase had me laughing for a looong time. Thanks.)

Re:meh, Webster's (0)

KiloByte (825081) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113855)

"bling" is a real word. It came to English initially from the ghetto slang and became well established since.

"mouse potate"? "himbos"? Come on...

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

thedonger (1317951) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115471)

Uneducated ghetto people either made up the word bling, or mangled some other well-meaning word from English, and then it was allowed back into English as a derivation? I call shenanigans.

Re:meh, Webster's (4, Insightful)

digitig (1056110) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114131)

I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling [merriam-webster.com] to its dictionary.

What do you mean by "authoritative"? Do you think that the purpose of a dictionary is to tell you how the language should be used or to report how it actually is used? Most dictionary compilers see themselves as having the latter role, in which case "bling" certainly deserves a place.

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

thedonger (1317951) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115567)

The dictionary compiles all the words we say, and we make up more words, and the dictionary compiles all the new words we say, and we make up more new words...

Maybe the South Park writers were on to something in the "Starvin Marvin In Space" episode. There is a planet where every noun has been changed to "marklar." E.g., "She thinks his marklar should be markler, when, in fact, it is really just a marklar."

That really gets my marklar in a marklar.

Re:meh, Webster's (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116047)

The dictionary compiles all the words we say, and we make up more words, and the dictionary compiles all the new words we say, and we make up more new words...

Which is a good case for dictionaries moving from paper to electronic formats -- my copy of the Complete Oxford English Dictionary (the "compact" edition) is huge and unwieldly, and long out of date.

Re:meh, Webster's (2, Funny)

edalytical (671270) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115797)

Well how else are they going to pimp their dictionary to metrosexuals?

Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (1)

Jager Dave (1238106) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113411)

I've been a geek for over 30 years - I've even got a hat that says so - and I've never once used, nor even heard, the word/term "webinar". I've even been involved in several "Web Seminars", and the term never came up...

I knew I should have started questioning MW when they added D'OH! (ala Homer Simpson) in as a word..

Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (4, Informative)

try_anything (880404) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113663)

That's because the summary is wrong; "webinar" does not come from the geek world. It comes from the Dilbert world, where marketroids are compelled to make up stupid names for every mildly novel thing. Also, "pretexting" comes from the worlds of crime and espionage. The submitter learned about it in a geeky context (hacking) because the submitter is a geek and learns about most things in a geeky context.

Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113689)

Next some teenager will claim that "money shot" and "barely legal" are geeky terms just because he never watched porn before the internet.

Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (2, Interesting)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113819)

Yup. If they came from a geek angle they'd have the security definition of "social engineering". Their current entry defines social engineering as either "management of human beings in accordance with their place and function in society" or applied social science.

Although, of course, the latter could be used as a cynical way of describing what social engineering is...

Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (1)

crossmr (957846) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114643)

At my last job everyone used the term webinar. Just because you have a unique experience doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience...

Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24115497)

At my last job everyone used the term webinar. Just because you have a unique experience doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience...

Actually, if you have a unique experience, that specifically means that no one else has had that experience. I learned that at a recent company 'blogginar'.

Valid Joke (5, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113655)

I can finally tell someone their picture should be in the dictionary under fanboy.

in one day, out the next (3, Insightful)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113703)

I wonder how much "staying power" some of these words will have. OK they've been around in specialised usages for some years, in an industry that's famous for making up new words. However, until they make the leap from being geek words to being words your mother would use I will still be sceptical that they haven't been properly accepted.

This smacks of the dictionary trying to be overly trendy - I expect a lot of these will be quietly dropped from this dictionary in years to come.

Re:in one day, out the next (2, Interesting)

crossmr (957846) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114651)

Very little.
I remember the first year I read about this trend. They were inducting "bootylicious". During the same induction, they were also putting in some slang term from the 50s which actually had staying power.
it was apparent then that it was pure attention-whoring (if you look this up in MW you'll find a link to MW). People shouldn't be giving dictionaries which include these types of words the time of day.

Newspeak (2, Funny)

sporkme (983186) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113775)

Efforting - V - newspeak - The act of an incompetent journalistic organization to appear busy - "We are efforting to bring you more details."

I am hearing this more and more... I say STFU and just say "trying" or "working on" instead of bullshitting us while trying to sound cromulent.

On that note, while they're at it, they ought to add STFU to their little book o' words. It is a perfectly spatulant word and the English-speaking world would be metalopulant to finally instructulate it offically.

Pretexting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113837)

What does "pretexting" have to do with geek culture? You don't have to be a geek to use a chat programs or a web browser and I think very few of us ever engaged in such activity.

You may as well be saying kiddie fiddling is part of Christian culture.

All perfectly cromulent words (4, Insightful)

bazorg (911295) | more than 6 years ago | (#24113921)

now all we need is to add "cromulent" to the dictionary.

Re:All perfectly cromulent words (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114301)

now all we need is to add "cromulent" to the dictionary.

I don't know why you say that, it is a perfectly cromulent word.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cromulent

Re:All perfectly cromulent words (4, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114321)

I don't see any reason to embiggen the dictionary.

Re:All perfectly cromulent words (2, Funny)

X3J11 (791922) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114627)

I don't see any reason to embiggen the dictionary.

Unless one wishes to enturbulate the masses.

Re:All perfectly cromulent words (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114473)

True. A noble word that embiggins us all.
It should be unpossible to leave out.

Mondegreens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24113999)

Just to throw one of my favorites out there, since I rarely get a chance to share this one any more...

The Police once sang a song about a rather disturbing girl with "Owl Beef wrapped around your finger".

Missing a word (3, Interesting)

KinkyClown (574788) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114081)

Strange thing is the most important NEW word is still not in the m-w...

slashdot

want to propose: WULU (1)

Zdzicho00 (912806) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114261)

See: http://sgalaxy.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Slang [wikia.com]

the name "wulu" is now a widespread word used in place of calling somone a newb, (wulu is a character so moronic that his name is now shuned)
anyways the new world of SG is all tatical and nobody ever just sees it as a game they are always screaming at eachother and calling eachoter wulus for there mistakes.

Simply love that screaming: WULUUU!, WULUUUU!! during SG battles...

/Jossarian from Agartha/TOFU on MP

The list of words I think should be included... (1)

fprintf (82740) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114591)

The following words are ones I think should be included in the dictionary*:

Bound-and-hagged = staying home on Friday or Saturday night
Cob nobbler = loser
Dish = desirable guy
Fuzz = heavy wool sweaters
Harsh realm = bummer
Kickers = heavy boots
Lamestain = uncool person
Plats = platform shoes
Swingin' on the flippity-flop = hanging out
Wack slacks = old ripped jeans

*apologies to the NYTimes and Megan Jasper...

Cool! (1)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114599)

Several new words in MW were pulled from geek culture?

Word.

Oxford English (2, Insightful)

DanJ_UK (980165) | more than 6 years ago | (#24114659)

"The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Oh but it won't.

Re:Oxford English (3, Informative)

argent (18001) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115599)

Actually, the OED is a descriptive dictionary, and historically has had a habit of picking up words that prescriptivists would rather not see listed. It may be a little less likely to acknowledge gratuitous verbogeny than Webster, but the staff of the OED has always taken their job to be the documentation of English as it is actually used.

that is ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24114995)

so craptarded!

`fanboy' didn't come out of the IT culture (4, Informative)

brokeninside (34168) | more than 6 years ago | (#24115151)

The Miriam-Webster folks document its first /recorded/ usage as early as 1919. Presumably, it had been in used in spoken form even earlier. So this is a case of the IT crowd adopting pre-existing slang rather than IT speak making its way out into the general culture. I gleaned this from the AP article [google.com] . The interesting thing to me is how old some of these new words are, like usage of wing nut to describe a radical out in the far wing of a political party dates back to 1900.

Malware... how is this different than Bloatware? (1)

Sethus (609631) | more than 6 years ago | (#24116125)

TFA links to an associated press story that they got their information from (practically copypasta... god I hope that becomes a word in the vernacular) and it states Malware is now an official word, ie in the W-M dictionary.

So this brings me to a tech question! How is this different than a term I've been hearing around the office, "Bloatware". The context for bloatware is cleaning crap off of a computer it came installed with, that generally slows down the darn thing.
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