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Asus Confirms Specs, Price of Eee PC 904 and 1000

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the of-course-it's-in-pounds dept.

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Ken E. writes "Asus seems to have completed its Eee PC laptop line-up, at least for the time being. The Taiwanese manufacturer has now confirmed both specifications and UK pricing of the Eee PC 904 and Eee PC 1000 — its two latest models. The Eee PC 904 is essentially an Eee PC 900 in an Eee PC 1000 chassis (big keyboard, 8.9in screen, Celeron-M 900MHz, Windows XP) and will cost £269 inc VAT. The Eee PC 1000 will cost £349 inc VAT for an Intel Atom (1.6GHz) chip, 10in screen, 80Gb HDD and Windows XP. Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess ..."

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Where's my $200 laptop (5, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119043)

They keep on bringing up the price and specs on these laptops. When they initially announced the EEE, they said it was going to be a $200 laptop. I still have yet to see one for $200, and with the way they keep on upping the specs, I don't think they will ever get to the $200 price point.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (2, Interesting)

NothingMore (943591) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119199)

I was looking at buying an Eee as a laptop i could just carry with me all the time and not care too much about it breaking. but since the Eee laptops are approaching the cost of Dell and HP's low end laptop pricing iv reconsidered buying one.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119267)

I have to agree. I can spend $200 on a used laptop and it has more than fast enough to do anything I want. But it's not small, and its battery will suck.

If they'd just make a $200 laptop, I'd buy it. I don't care how slow it is. I did real work on P100s 10 years ago, and I'd be happy to do the same today.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120225)

I agree with the "used" approach.

I spent $100 on a deal for two used Compaq Armada M300 [hp.com] machines (PIII) and a docking station. They're small (barely bigger than an Eee PC in one dimension, because the screen is 4:3 aspect), light (magnesium shell), 1024x768 12" displays, run various version of Linux [in.tum.de] and PCMCIA wifi with no problems, and even run Windows 2000 fine (I haven't tried XP). What more do I really need for web browsing and e-mail? These things aren't for gaming or heavy-duty stuff anyway. The only downside has been the battery life and the cost of it: ~$100 more for replacement batteries that give only ~2.5hrs, because the batteries that came with the units were dead. Still, 2 laptops for the price of one EeePC ain't bad, and the form factor is fairly similar. Oh, and the wifi sticking out of the PCMCIA slot looks a bit ugly, but so what.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (3, Insightful)

Adlopa (686151) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119327)

I suspect that the margins are so low on a $200 'netbook' (which is how these devices are being pitched) that the temptation is to slip in a few more features and nudge up the price in order to make a little more money. It's not quite quite the boiling frog analogy, but it's not far off -- 7" screen too small? Why for only $50 more you can get 8.9"! And there's even a bigger keyboard for just another $30! Before you know it we'll be at the Eee PC 1200 netbook with a 12.1in screen for $700 - or a 'laptop', as such things are more commonly known...

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119727)

The value of the dollar has turned to shit since they said that.

as sound as a pound (2, Interesting)

myCopyWrong (1310641) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120211)

That only makes the quoted prices worse. People in the UK and EU are looking for a 100 Euro or Pound notebook. If you figure in the lower value of the same processors, the $350 700 models should be available for less than $300 by now but essentially the same components are being sold for twice that. Finally, as the dollar fails, they should be looking to cut costs not raise them if they want to increase their share of huge US market.

If this is part of the M$ deal to put a stop to the growth of Linux on netbooks, it's going to work. Asus is not going to sell as much as they want, it's like they cut their throat to keep M$ happy.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120239)

Yes, but most Americans are too stupid to understand that the world does not revolve around the US dollar.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (5, Insightful)

coolsnowmen (695297) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120427)

the world does not revolve around the US dollar.

Maybe not revolve, but if the world is certainly not independent of it. If the US went into a true depression, do you think europe, japan, china, and the middle east would be completely immune?

If so you better quote-a-source or flash-an-econ-degree because everything I see has every major foreign market tied in multiple ways to the US's.

Or did you really just want to claim that all Americans are pompous?

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (1)

RustinHWright (1304191) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119867)

I couldn't agree more. I was initially very excited by the prospect of a "$200 laptop", though about $350 is probably my sweet spot. And since I want something that I can throw in my bag and not worry about weight at all, I was really hoping for something like a 7" device. But not only are the prices going up, the size is, too. Looks to me like the executives have drunk the same Koolaid as everybody else in the business.
I guess that I'll have to buy a Nokia N800 to get me by (if the keyboard on the 810 weren't so resistant, I would buy one of those) and maybe get a used Asus in a year or so and hope for better someday.

Because that's worked so well so far ;-(

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (1)

starwed (735423) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119949)

Asus still sell the initial 700 line, which is a 350$, 7" device... exactly what you're asking for.

So what's the problem?

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (2, Interesting)

Tx (96709) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119871)

I just paid for my ElonexONE, which cost me £100, which is around $200. However that price only seems to be available for those of us who pre-ordered units, they've upped the list price since then, to £180 (with a slightly improved spec). The spec is significantly lower than the EEE.

I think it's pretty obvious that making money off these netbook type units at the $200 price point has turned out to be unrealistic at this point in time, as no one has really managed it even at the lower specs around.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (1)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120029)

Agreed! Atom 1.6GHz, 80GB HDD, 10" screen? This isn't a "super portable mini budget laptop", this is a straight out *normal* ultra-portable laptop. This is a budget competitor to Sony's Vaio series, not a new device class like Asus initially announced.

Re:Where's my $200 laptop (1)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120235)

The cost of the laptop didn't go up, the value of your dollar went down.

How much do those MS Windows licences cost? (2, Informative)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119057)

$0?

Re:How much do those MS Windows licences cost? (2, Funny)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119677)

$0?

(rimshot) that's about what they're worth! (/rimshot)

Re:How much do those MS Windows licences cost? (5, Funny)

Toreo asesino (951231) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119847)

You dropped this - http://www.instantrimshot.com/ [instantrimshot.com]

Stiffed? Wow. (5, Funny)

Madball (1319269) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119059)

Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed.

An early adopter "stiffed"? A technology buyer getting more stuff for less money if they just wait? No way!

Next, you'll claim that man has gone to the moon, or that Linux >> Windows, or Bush is disliked. You so craaazy.

Re:Stiffed? Wow. (3, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119487)

Quick, buy technology product before it goes up in price!

Re:Stiffed? Wow. (4, Funny)

Finder83 (829130) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119527)

So wait...I realize your last comment was sarcastic. At least I know Bush is disliked... If I take a bitwise right shift of Linux, I'll end up with Windows? Holy crap...makes me want to try a left bit shift...

Re:Stiffed? Wow. (1)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120335)

SIf I take a bitwise right shift of Linux, I'll end up with Windows? Holy crap...makes me want to try a left bit shift...

It's actually saying to take Linux, and shift it "windows" bit places to the left. I have no idea what that gets you.

Re:Stiffed? Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120227)

Linux has been appended to Windows?!

Re:Stiffed? Wow. (1)

IceCreamGuy (904648) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120485)

An early adopter "stiffed"? A technology buyer getting more stuff for less money if they just wait? No way!

While you make a very good point, when a company pulls a product right after release and almost immediately replaces it with a better, cheaper version, that does suck more than normal. I don't actually know the timeline, though, just quoting TA:

At £269 inc Vat, the Eee PC 904 also considerably cheaper than the short-lived Eee PC 900. which means some early adopters will no doubt be kicking themselves...

Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (5, Insightful)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119075)

Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess.

No. They got a nice working computer for a price they found reasonable. Something better will come out for less money next year, and again the year after that.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (2, Funny)

Romwell (873455) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119289)

Something better will come out for less money next year

Surely, as we see the trend of Eee PC prices going down with each new model, this will happen most definitely. We can be sure that Asus will release a cheaper and not-so-beefed-up model for the folks that are waiting for the $200 model.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (2, Insightful)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119449)

We can be sure that Asus will release a cheaper and not-so-beefed-up model for the folks that are waiting for the $200 model.

Someone will, if not Asus.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (5, Insightful)

Corf (145778) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119417)

I have a 701. It cost me $399, and I received it on November 2 of last year.

For the last six months, since I static-zapped my desktop, it's been my only personal computer.

I'm typing this on it right now, from a plaza in Silver Spring, Maryland. It's a gorgeous day, the fountains are running.

I am super happy with it.

I don't feel "stiffed," I feel like I got in on something awesome before it was trendy.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (2, Interesting)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119559)

For the last six months, since I static-zapped my desktop, it's been my only personal computer.

Likewise. I have a nice used Mac in my home office that I use when I need a full-sized screen, but in practice that means maybe once a month or so. At home, the 701 has become my main computer.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119767)

I have a 17" LCD that sits, alone, on my desk... plugs nicely right into the 701, and poof, 1280x1024. :)

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (2, Informative)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120473)

and poof, 1280x1024. :)

That's just pitiful. IMO, even 12" screens ought to be higher-res than that nowadays (mine is 1400x1050).

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120429)

Liar! I'm in Silver Spring, too. And it's overcast with occasional drizzle.

Re:Enough with the "I got ripped off!" whining (1)

molotovjester (1273662) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119617)

If no down-ward pressure was put on the price of old technology when the new technology came out, would the price of computing double every two years?

I am going to make that my quote, actually.

The world is full of idiots. (5, Informative)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119091)

If you buy electronics, the price WILL GO DOWN in the future. This is not being "stiffed." This is reality. Stop whining. The fact that internet whiners got lucky ONE TIME with the iPhone is a freak occurrence. Do not expect your whining to every pay off for any of the millions of other electronic devices sold every day.

Re:The world is full of idiots. (3, Insightful)

Firehed (942385) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119505)

A very valid point, though even by technology pricing standards, the iPhone's price drop (33% off after two months) was pretty unusual.

Re:The world is full of idiots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119595)

The slashdot is full of whiners.

Perfect (5, Funny)

InlawBiker (1124825) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119093)

Every possible combination of screen size, chip, storage and memory have been packaged and named almost identically. Asus' plan to thoroughly confuse customers is complete.

Re:Perfect (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119177)

Or you know, people could just read the specs on the box/website before paying for it, to ensure the product had what they were looking for, instead of relying on the product name to tell them the specs.

Re:Perfect (1)

flitty (981864) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119579)

I don't want to have to consult a spreadsheet [engadget.com] for a sub-compact laptop that was initially touted as a $200 gadget/toy.

Re:Perfect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119709)

Then don't and let the rest of us deal with this luxury problem? Sheesh.

Re:Perfect (1)

djikster (1189729) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119685)

I find the specs most intriguing:

From the image in which they show the pricing and the various features for each model, you can clearly read that 901-BK006 (Linux) comes with a 20Gb SSD drive, the 007 with 12Gb SSD (at the same price but with Windows).

The 1000-BK002 comes with 40Gb SSD and Linux, while the cheaper Windows version comes with 80 Gb HDD.

I have a feeling someone writing those specs might have gotten the number of digits wrong for the SSDs.

It's also quite upsetting to see that the Linux specs are different than the Windows specs (in terms of the hardware platform on which they are offered).

Re:Perfect (3, Informative)

spudnic (32107) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119891)

I'm sure the 40Gb SSD is much more expensive than the 80Gb HDD.

SSD is a premium. No sound, less heat, faster boots, longer battery life.

Re:Perfect (5, Insightful)

djikster (1189729) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119969)

Currently, the price of the 40Gb SSD exceeds the price of the laptop :)

Re:Perfect (1)

spudnic (32107) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120261)

I wish I could mod you insightful.

Re:Perfect (2, Informative)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120051)

There's nothing that surprising about the 20GB and 40GB SSDs - they're not exactly the super high speed ones you see selling for thousands, they're just the same memory as the SD cards or USB keys you see selling for next to nothing. They're not as cheap as spinning discs, hence the 80GB one and a Windows license being the same price as the 40GB drive alone, but they aren't an enormous distance off.

Why are you 'upset' about the higher spec on the Linux versions? I guess they could've offered the same spec for less money, but the volume cost of a Windows license probably isn't that much, so I doubt it would have been very significant.

Re:Perfect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119799)

Just go with what's right most of the time: More numbers and letters after the product name = MORE AWESOME

Re:Perfect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119851)

They can start now to add Vista versions to their computers to make it better! ;)

How the 'Eee' got it's name. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119095)

The CEO saw the margins that these computers would make and said 'eeeeeeeeeeee'!

This is not a good thing (3, Insightful)

fprintf (82740) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119107)

This is not a good thing for Linux adoption. Earlier articles today pointed to the increased adoption of Linux among housewives, attributed to sales of eeePCs and other cheap laptops. Now that these ones have XP on them, this can't be a good thing for the trend continuing.

Always had a choice. (2, Insightful)

eddy (18759) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119513)

They've always been available in both XP and Linux versions. The difference is that the original 700 version was out using linux first, and XP came later, the newer versions are doing it the other way around. 901 are now becoming available in the west, and so far it's all Windows XP. The cynic in me wonders if Microsoft called Asus up and said "If you ship XP versions one month before the linux versions, we'll give you a nice little rebate on your XP licenses. giddigy"

erm, who actually wants one? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119125)

There are low-end but fully-fledged laptops (i.e. 10s of gigs, 512MB-1GB, 13"+ screen) of the OEM-unbranded type in this price range selling all over the Web in the UK. For 50 quid more, you get an Acer. And they all come with 12 month warranties, often extensible. Who actually wants the eepc?

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (4, Interesting)

Westley (99238) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119283)

Someone who wants a small form factor. Like me.

I take two laptops to work every day - my company one, and my Eee (which I'm using to write this post). I don't want to use my company one on the train for various reasons, hence the need for a second one. So, space and weight is at a premium.

Given that most of my time on the train is spent browsing or blogging rather than doing anything *hugely* taxing, I don't mind having a lower power machine.

My current Eee is a 701G, but I may well treat myself to a 1000 some time next year, mostly for the larger screen but also for the improved battery life and more power when I want it.

But they're getting larger and heavier again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119703)

Really, this bothers me. With a 10" screen and a HD and a large keyboard, these things are getting very near to "normal" notebooks now. For me, the real advantage of the Eee PC was its small size and weight.

Me (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119291)

I now have the good, expensive Vaio SZ, which is a great machine.

BUT for travelling around with and especially for an extended vacation (a month in aus later this year) I want something cheap and above all small and light. 13" is too big. The 901 has 1GB of RAM, a reasonable chip and a reasonable display. Sounds perfect.

Before this current spate of really small and low priced laptops, I'd have had to go for a Vaio TZ, and they are NOT cheap.

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (1)

JuanCarlosII (1086993) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119295)

People who want small form-factor yet fully able computers. Or 'me' as I like to refer to myself.

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119363)

Show me one with a 22.5 cm x 17 cm footprint and I'll run to the shop.

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (4, Informative)

danzona (779560) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119427)

There are low-end but fully-fledged laptops (i.e. 10s of gigs, 512MB-1GB, 13"+ screen) of the OEM-unbranded type in this price range selling all over the Web in the UK. For 50 quid more, you get an Acer. And they all come with 12 month warranties, often extensible. Who actually wants the eepc?

I think the niche that Eee PC is trying to fill is for people who don't want the size and weight associated with the 13" screen. The Eee PC models have screens that range from 7" to 10", in weights from 2 - 3 pounds.

There are other options for palmtops and ultraportables, but they all seem to be quite a bit more expensive than the Eee PC models. I'm sure the competitors are justified in what they are charging - perhaps Eee PC has found the sweet spot of price and performance.

You must only have one computer... (1)

Sleepy (4551) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119551)

I used to be chained to a desktop.
I got rid of the desktop, and got a laptop.

When I traveled, I didn't like the laptop so much
If you're on call and have to lug a laptop, it's annoying.
Sometimes you don't end up using it but you have to keep it around anyway..

Then I got a Nokia N800 and keyboard...
These mid-size ultraportables are nice if you need to do less than an hour's work.

For something in-between, these Asus systems seem real nice. Only reason I've held off is because the Nokia's working for me at the moment, and also with these things being so NEW it was obvious there would be some revision/model churn fairly quick.

You don't need a laptop case for some of the Asus.. just toss it in a standard backpack. It'll even fit in your pocket (if you wear cargo pants).

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (1)

Rog7 (182880) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119619)

Smaller = better to a whole lot of folks. If I'm going small, 13" is too big.

Different markets.

I prefer the earlier 7" models.

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119679)

There are low-end but fully-fledged laptops (i.e. 10s of gigs, 512MB-1GB, 13"+ screen) ... in this price range selling all over the Web ...

-1, stupid. Bzzzzt. They are not the same thing. An 18 wheel semi is not the same thing as a commuter car. Jeeze!

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (2, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119883)

I don't want one, but for the opposite reason. I want something slower and cheaper. All I want is something with enough power to SSH into a server over wifi, a qwerty keyboard, and a battery that lasts more than a couple hours. The EEE is overkill, both in performance and price. Is anyone making the device I want?

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119963)

Can you get a 13" Acer for US$500? Please point me there!
If I can get something that is around 1 or 1.5 kg, that I can carry around without the big bulk of "beefed" computers that come in in regular 15" screen footprints, that are heavy, and annoying to carry around everywhere. I'm going to be there to buy it.

I don't need outstanding processing capabilities, as I need portability. If I need to run intensive simulations using Matlab, I remotely login into a powerful desktop computer and run them. I'm not expecting having a portable computer for doing something that does not require of my active interaction. I really want a budget computer I can carry around, without having to have half of my backpack wasted carrying such "powerful" device I don't need.

Re:erm, who actually wants one? (3, Insightful)

Znork (31774) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120025)

Personally I find those low-end fully fledged laptops completely worthless. They have little storage, almost no memory, no expansion capability, a pitiful screen, a barely useful graphics card and a painfully slow CPU.

They're simply not a useful replacement for a desktop. And on top of that they're just not that portable; you dont quickly throw them in your bag, purse or coat pocket and go.

Still, I have a need for something to take notes, run presentations and look stuff up on when not at the desk. And while I find the low-end laptop unsuitable for the task due to it's desktop-replacement complex, the EEE segment is extremely suitable for the purpose (the £1000+ micro laptop segment is also suitable, but, eh, I'm buying a glorified pencil+paper, not some form of jewelry or fashion statement).

Early Adoption (2, Insightful)

JuanCarlosII (1086993) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119143)

I bought my 900 back in May for £329 so I guess that makes me one of the early adopters who are being stiffed, but to be honest that's just what happens whenever you buy electronics. I'll get over it.

I'm also not entirely convinced that there'd be that much difference in performance for my usage (casual web browsing) between my 900 and the 901, and a few extra gig of HD is fairly inconsequential when I have 320gb of USB drive for transfer/backup between my various computers anyway.

If I'd known about the new models back when I bought my 900 I *might* have waited for the 1000 series (the reason I didn't get a 70x was because I was holding out for the bigger/vaguely usable screen) but if I'm honest I'd still probably have bought then safe in the knowledge that whatever I bought, whenever I bought it, would be superceded within months anyway. Anyone who complains about their computer hardware being superceded needs to get a grip on reality.

So (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119149)

what?

Progress? Conspiracy! (2, Funny)

pla (258480) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119175)

Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess...

I know, right?

Like that first IBM PC clone I owned... Can you believe I (or rather, my parents) paid almost $2500 for a crappy ol' 8086 CPU with 256MB of RAM???

Bastards, just stickin' it to those of us who can't hold out for the $0.99 Walmart special on Quantum computers with a petabyte of memory and a sub-etha WLAN adapter! I say we sue!

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (5, Funny)

jabuzz (182671) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119277)

I think that will have been 256KB of RAM, otherwise it would have cost a *LOT* more than $2500

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119991)

Just doing some history checking. The 8086 or course cannot address anythingpassed 1MB unless you go into the Expanded Memory Scheme

There were many options but one was
The Intel Above Board/PC
64K RAM for $395
same outfitted with 2MB of ram it is $1000 (in 1986)
4 boards can be hooked together to get a maximum of 8MB = $4000.00
Forgetting about the 8MB limit you would need to hook together
128 boards (forgetting about that first MB in the computer itself) at
a total cost of $128,000. Now buying in bulk like that you may get a discount.

Does anybody want to figure out how long it would take to address all that
memory working with an 8 to 10 MHz processor paging 64k of the 256MB of RAM
at a time over a 16bit ISA bus.

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (1)

night_flyer (453866) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119299)

they had a 8086 with 256MB of RAM?!?

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119375)

I had an 80386 with 5 MB of RAM, so anything is possible.

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (4, Informative)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119713)

Well, the 80386 had a 4GB address space, so having a mere 5MB is easy. The 8086 only had a 1MB address space, so squeezing 256MB onto it would be a feat.

Re:Progress? Conspiracy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119441)

Well, not really. The Asus Eee PC 900 was only launched in March 2008. It's July now, so that makes it.... oooh, a staggering four months before specs have shot up and the price plummeted.

Stiffed (3, Insightful)

imidan (559239) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119225)

Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess...

<rant> I never understand this point of view. Especially with computer/tech hardware. Every one of us, when buying a new video card, or a new processor, or whatever, knows that within a few months, the price will come down on the thing we just bought, and a newer, better thing will be out. And I never see people bitching about that. But make it some shiny, all-in-one thing like an iPhone or this Eee PC, and suddenly there's this group of people who are outraged about it. What gives? It's life, you know? You can sit on all of your money and never buy anything, for fear that you could get a better deal tomorrow, or you can buy stuff today and enjoy it. </rant>

Not that the OP sounded all that bitter about it. It just reminded me of people who do.

Re:Stiffed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120099)

Well, early adopters always get the punch in the pocket. I don't get it in this case. It's a bit more upsetting when you buy something, and they suddenly lower the price without releasing new versions. Just because. Yes, I'm talking about the iPhone. As for this one? Well, they were built already, and they need to get out of those in the market, to replace them with the new versions. Makes lots of sense to lower the prices and release the new ones more expensive to sell the stock.

Solid State (1)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119273)

Is getting smaller and denser all the time!

KEEP WITH IT

With JBOD rebuilding and MTF of flash we could have switchable 5 slot uber raid in every laptop.

Don't go back to HD's they are big, noisy, clunky and prone to failure!

This is what storage will look like [newegg.com] .

Re:Solid State (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119745)

I've been wondering about using RAID-1 between a partition on the EeePC and a memory card. Keep a couple of the cards, and every day swap them over, let it rebuild the array, and keep the other one as a backup. Ideally, you'd use something more like rsync while rebuilding, so flash cells that have not been modified in the previous day are only read, not written to.

arms race. (5, Insightful)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119285)

I have always decided to stay out of the arms race attended by PC HW and SW firms.

Most of my HW is quite old, 7+ years apart from my early adoption of an Asus EEE. was I stiffed on the price? hell no - had it over half a year and makes a good wifi web station.

I understand the commercial reasons behind the rapid depreciation in HW and SW - but as far as I'm concerned my PC hardware is a tool, like my car. I'm upgrade only when there is a compelling reason or something breaks. Is the arms race a good or bad thing? well it promotes innovation and new technologies so I cannot really argue against it.

As long as I can still run an up to date distro on my hardware I'm a happy camper. An old PC will let me write SW, surf and do office tasks as well as a new one, and be just as net safe if I keep to a regular upgrade cycle.

The 900 is still a sweet machine (1)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119315)

You get an 8.9" screen (greatest disadvantage of the 700 series is their 7" screen), larger resolution (1024x600) much larger SSD storage (20GB for the Linux version), touchpad that supports 2-finger scrolling and pinch gestures and still the same small form factor of the 700s. What's not to like?

Re:The 900 is still a sweet machine (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119899)

What's not to like?

I think the Eee is a perfect candidate for having a trackpoint, it would fit with the compact nature of the Eee. I'd love to see an Eee with one. They don't take up much room and would probably increase productivity.

Does anyone know of a successful hack that added a trackpoint to an Eee?

As a bonus if you dropped the touchpad you'd probably gain some room for adding more mods

nice, but too expensive (1)

joe 155 (937621) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119403)

Weren't these things meant to be cheep light netbooks? I got an email from ebuyer just the other day offering a laptop which isn't too much thicker/heavier than these (although it is slightly on both counts) with a core duo processor, 1GB of RAM, 120GB HD and a DVD +/- RW drive... all for £279.

This means they want me to pay a lot MORE to get worse specs, not great battery life, an older OS which won't be supported by 3rd parties for very much longer... I know it's slightly smaller; but really, it's just too expensive.

They may be paying for portability (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119437)

Seeing as the 269lb 904 is in a bigger chassis, I would gladly pay 329lbs for the 901 since it is a lot more portable. The early adopters were possible paying for mobile computing. In fact, the 901 is still priced 30lbs higher than the 901 which means its price has gone down only 30lbs which is an acceptable premium to pay for early adoption.

Cheers!

Re:They may be paying for portability (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119647)

I don't think "lbs" means what you think it means in this context. Uh, unless you're writing from the surface of Jupiter, or something...

Re:They may be paying for portability (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120009)

Obviously, I am talking about pounds. I was just randomly using lbs instead of the pound sign.

And oh! being on the surface of Jupiter makes no difference.

Re:They may be paying for portability (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24120065)

I suspect that was an allusion to the increased gravity that could turn a 1lb laptop into a 269lb one... No doubt someone will be along to provide the correct weight of the Eee PC 904 on the surface of Jupiter before too long...

Re:They may be paying for portability (1)

Madball (1319269) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120149)

I suspect that was an allusion to the increased gravity that could turn a 1lb laptop into a 269lb one... No doubt someone will be along to provide the correct weight of the Eee PC 904 on the surface of Jupiter before too long...

1. Calculate the 1.36kg weight of eeePC 904 as being 3.215kg on Jupiter

2. Win the acclaim of nerds everywhere.

3. Profit!

Re:They may be paying for portability (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120391)

1. Calculate the 1.36kg weight of eeePC 904 as being 3.215kg on Jupiter

kg is a unit of mass and so is lb

2. Win the acclaim of nerds everywhere.

Nope

3. Profit!

Profit FAIL!

Cheers!

Re:They may be paying for portability (2, Informative)

91degrees (207121) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120205)

Interesting. Jupiter's gravity is only about 2.5x Earth's. so a 2lb Laptop would only be about 5lb there.

Re:They may be paying for portability (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120437)

What I meant when I said being on Jupiter makes no difference is that a 1lb laptop is a 1lb laptop on earth, moon, jupiter...everywhere. Maybe if he had said "unless you are writing at close to the speed of light", he would have been correct

Sheesh! (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119759)

Seeing as the 269lb 904 is in a bigger chassis...

Sheesh! That laptop outweighs me.

Re:They may be paying for portability (2, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119781)

What are you paying in weight for?

Re:They may be paying for portability (1)

lightversusdark (922292) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120431)

On slashdot it is clear that he means pounds sterling.
As opposed to Romanian or Vietnamese pounds:
£

EEEEEEE PCs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119631)

Am i missing something? What makes these PCs special? This is like bargain basement stuff from 2001.

My thoughts on it... (2, Insightful)

WonderGod (62521) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119635)

I almost bought a 900 a few wEeeks back. I'm glad I didn't because now I can get a 900 for 399 with a 8.9' screen and 16 gig hard drive at newegg. Or find a good deal on regular 900's at lots of online retailers(100 Mail in rebate). Although the 901 is better, I'd rather save 100 bucks and get a slightly lesser processor. I mean the whole point of this thing is to be simple and surf the web. The upgraded processor isn't really worth the extra 100 IMHO. They really need to get these things in local stores nationwide, and then they'll be cooking.

Re:My thoughts on it... (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119935)

I keep expecting to see Apple jump on this market.
We know that they can scale OS/X down to run on these.
Combine that with an iTunes like store for software and all of a sudden you have the mass market mac.
I see it at $399 and it will have a doc for your IPod to use the bigger screen to watch movies on.

In US dollars (5, Informative)

metamechanical (545566) | more than 6 years ago | (#24119893)

For those of us on the other side of the pond, that's about $529.66 and $687.18 respectively, using yesterday's exchange rate (i.e., the first one I found)

Re:In US dollars (1)

Smidge204 (605297) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120143)

FYI: http://www.xe.com/ucc/ [xe.com] (Bookmark it now!)

As someone said earlier, the EeePM has gotten into the same price bracket as traditional low-end laptops. In fact, you get more performance for the money with a "regular" laptop.

For $690 for get an EeePC with 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD, 10" screen and 1.6GHz Intel Atom processor.

For about 10% more cost you can get something with twice the RAM, at least five times the HDD, dual-core processor and larger display.

There are only valid two reasons I can see how the EeePC is not pricing itself out of the market: First is weight, since they are somewhat lighter than the competition. Second is the SSD which, honestly, doesn't compensate enough for the smaller battery (which is also a big part of why its lighter)
=Smidge=

Why are the prices for Linux machines higher? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24119977)

Perhaps this has been discussed in the past EEE PC threads, but why are the machines with Linux on them selling for more, or about the same as that for the operating system from the evil empire?

In general, I understand that pre-packaged junk-ware pays for some of the cost, but is there anything more in case of these machines?

My brother did mention that some of his friends had to work for a company that Asus outsourced their driver development to (Camera, Video Card, etc.), but does it add that much to the cost?

VGA output?!? (1, Interesting)

trjonescp (954259) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120017)

Dear Asus,

The time has come. Drop VGA output and replace with HDMI output. Surely you (and your customers) would love the space savings of an HDMI connector [wikipedia.org] over a VGA connector [wikipedia.org] . As an added bonus, your customers won't be pissed that their laptops have a connector interface that is quickly becoming (already?) obsolete.

Thank you,

Mr. Sensibility

DVI-I instead (5, Informative)

D4C5CE (578304) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120329)

Drop VGA output and replace with HDMI output

No, with DVI-I. While it's bulkier (and more sturdy), thanks to carrying the VGA signal as well it doesn't have HDMI's (sometimes show-stopping) disadvantage of being unable to drive the still most common projectors with analog inputs.

And I sit here... (1)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#24120133)

... still waiting for the MSI Wind ...

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