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Watchmen Movie Trailer Is Out

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the stuff-to-see dept.

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I forgot to mention the other bit of exciting comic book movie news this week: DaSpudMan noted that the Watchmen trailer is out — from the Director of 300, which spawns mixed feelings at our office. But it looks pretty good.

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Mixed Feelings definitely (4, Informative)

Izabael_DaJinn (1231856) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279479)

Mixed feelings sums it up for me as well!

I have fond memories of my first boyfriend reading me the Watchmen, and many scenes in the trailer looked like they were taken right from the comic panels so I should be excited--but I don't know...

The Comedian didn't look like quite like the vicious rascal I had hoped he would (but I only saw him for a few seconds so we'll see.)

Ozymandius's costume looks completely different (I miss his purple one!), and Silk Spectre's costume is pretty generic looking.

Nite Owl looks too much like Batman. (Sure they are similar characters, but very different also. I feel Nite Owl is not a very "dark" character, and making him into a 2nd rate Batman would not be doing his character justice.)

Also I thought Rorshach's voice was a more distinctive monotone. He sounds just like any random guy whispering in this.

And they didn't show any footage of the "vintage" comic book characters (i.e. the first generation Watchmen) so bummer on that.

But based on the production clips it seems like the director is really trying to be true to the story and look of the comic, so as long as they don't change the ending I don't see that it could be THAT horrible, no matter if Alan Moore has already disowned it (he disowns like ALL his movie adaptations, doesn't he?)

That said, I still wish Darren Aronofsky had taken over the directorial reigns.

Btw, is Smashing Pumpkins doing the soundtrack or is that just for the trailer?

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Interesting)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279597)

But based on the production clips it seems like the director is really trying to be true to the story and look of the comic, so as long as they don't change the ending I don't see that it could be THAT horrible,

Considering that my major complaint of Watchmen is the ending, I think changing it could only help. See my review at the Amazon listing for Watchmen [amazon.com] , but basically I felt Moore could have created a much more refreshing plot than having the supervillian ultimately explain his whole scheme in dialogue to the heroes before doing them in, like the James Bond trope. I liked so much of the series, which really did move the comic tradition forward, but the last book was a letdown.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (3, Interesting)

franksands (938435) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279839)

I love that ending exactly because the heroes think that he is just monologuing, when that is not exactly what happens. I was pretty much vague to avoid spoilers. Watchmen is definitely one of the best comics there is, so it is a big challenge to bring it to the screen. Even more if you consider the parallel stories and subplots.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Informative)

Kelbear (870538) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279929)

While it made no pretense of subtlety, the way in which the supervillain ultimately explains his scheme was markedly different from the norm, and he explicitly points out why. It was a creative twist on an old standby which was still pretty effective in keeping me engaged.

It's a spoiler, and wikipedia spoils it as well.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (5, Insightful)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279949)

I think you missed the point. Spoilers ahoy.

Ozy isn't uttering forth a monologue; he's distracting everybody. He's already won. Further, he's not trying to show them how smart he is, daring them to outthink him, Riddler-style; he's giving himself up for judgement. He wouldn't have stopped any of the heroes had they decided to go reveal the plan; you'll note that he lets Rorshach go. Further, he seeks absolution from Dr. Manhattan.

In other words, the entire point of that scene is to send up the comic book trope.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

Barradrewda (1016610) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280215)

Well said. Ozy is putting himself up for judgment because he is not a supervillain, the guy was trying to stave off a world war. Is it morally permissible to kill a few to save a lot, especially without the consent of the few - the greatest utilitarian moral dilemma facing the republic. I thought Comedian looked spot on and I love the Caligulaesque Ozy suit. Smooches.

Another thing about that [SPOILERS] (1)

StressGuy (472374) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280599)

When Ozymandis and Dr. Manhattan are talking at the end, Dr. Mahnattans says, "It is highly unlikily Rorshach will reach the mainland". Moments before, he obliterated him. In other words, he seemingly lied to Ozymandis. There is so much other stuff buried in that novel that I've wondered if that was another one I just haven't figured out yet.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Informative)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279603)

That song was already in the Batman and Robin soundtrack, and even had its own video. I don't think they'll retread it. Early teasers use placeholder music all the time. I can't count the number of times I've heard Mortal Kombat background music (it's mostly ethnic-sounding drums) or the music from The Fugitive (film version) in a trailer for a totally different movie.

Trailer Music... (2, Insightful)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279633)

"300" had Nine inch nails in the trailer. And then nothing in the film... I was let down!

Re:Trailer Music... (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280723)

Amen.

If 300 had NIN in it, it would have been the only thing I liked about 300. Im fairly excited about The Watchmen, but knowing that its the same director doesnt sit well.

I think the best Trailer music ive seen/heard so far is the use of Clint Mansell's - Lux Aeterna [youtube.com] (From Requiem For A Dream) for one of the Lord Of The Rings trailers...

But its a great theme for anything envolving a battle or any kind really, I never get sick of it, its like the beginning of Carl Orff's - O Fortuna [youtube.com] (From Carmina Burana) so much power there, perfect.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Insightful)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279835)

Indeed. There's a niche market for creating music suitable for trailers/other place holders. Immediate Music springs to mind. There's also a significant amount of reuse. For example, I remember at least one trailer for the Core used music from The Rock.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

CFTM (513264) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280297)

And Hans Zimmer has been reusing his musical themes for quite some time now...it always cracks me up when I'm watching a movie and I'm like...hmmmm this sounds a lot like the rock! And then Hans ends up being the composer for the movie...

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279893)

Yep. No point in commissioning a new work or paying to license a song when you can just re-use something that's already in the library.

Smashing Pumpkins (1)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280369)

"That song" is the Smashing Pumpkins - "The end is the beginning is the End". There are countless remixes of it... and yes, it was used for the Batman and Robin soundtrack!

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279617)

I saw this trailer before batman. I thought (for a second) that they were bringing val kilmer back as batman ... in the funny suit. Turns out, it wasn't batman ... it was Nite Owl.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (3, Insightful)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279655)

I think the less than inspiring costumes may be intentional, as if to suggest that the costumed heroes are operating at one level, while Dr. Manhattan is operating at another level entirely. Another plane of existence, in fact.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Insightful)

Captain Sarcastic (109765) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280157)

I have to agree.

You see, the other costumed heroes were just that - some had improved capabilities (like Ozymandias), and some had neat devices (like Nite Owl), but in the end they were all people whose costume was primarily aimed at concealing their identities.

Dr. Manhattan was different... since he was no longer entirely human he was no longer affected by human norms and values (watch how his clothing becomes sketchier from his early days to the "present").

I thought it was a pretty cool way of showing how much he'd diverged from his original self without blabbing it out loud.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

mackil (668039) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279687)

Btw, is Smashing Pumpkins doing the soundtrack or is that just for the trailer?

Probably just the trailer... unfortunately

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

hudsonhawk (148194) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279909)

What on earth would make you expect Aronofsky to do a good job on a film like this?

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279987)

Moore was actually pretty complimentary of David Hayter's script (inasmuch as he said it was good as he could hope for), which they apparently haven't deviated too far from. He's still dismissive of the idea of a movie version in on principle, of course.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

Tragedy4u (690579) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280045)

Night Owl was actually based on the Blue Beetle, having been denied the actual rights to the character by DC. Note the goggles in both character's costumes and the similarity to their vehicles. However I can certainly see why you'd mistake him for Batman, there are a lot of similarities.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (2, Informative)

Steve001 (955086) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280667)

Tragedy4u wrote:

Night Owl was actually based on the Blue Beetle, having been denied the actual rights to the character by DC. Note the goggles in both character's costumes and the similarity to their vehicles. However I can certainly see why you'd mistake him for Batman, there are a lot of similarities.

All of the main Watchman characters are based on the characters that DC got from Charlton Comics (for example, Dr. Manhattan was based on Captain Atom, and Silk Spectre was based on Nightshade) Originally, the creative team was going to use the Charlton characters for the story, but when DC saw the story, new characters based on the originals were created for the story.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

shimage (954282) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280055)

(he disowns like ALL his movie adaptations, doesn't he?)

Perhaps because they all suck big time? Nonetheless, I'm still somewhat excited about this. On the other hand, I was also excited about 300 but didn't care for the movie much (yeah, I know, I'm the only dude that didn't like it).

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280137)

Didn't like 300? HAHA FAG!

300? You mean... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280079)

Slow-Mo Spartan Storybook Time [multiplexcomic.com] . I'm really looking forward to his interpretation of this critically-acclaimed graphic novel!

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (3, Interesting)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280093)

> Ozymandius's costume looks completely different (I miss his purple one!), and Silk Spectre's costume is pretty generic looking.

Personally, I thought Ozymandius's costume in the comic book was kind of silly, and was somewhat relieved when they changed it for the movie. I'd tend to agree on silk spectre, except those faux garters are a little edgy.

> Nite Owl looks too much like Batman. (Sure they are similar characters, but very different also. I feel Nite Owl is not a very "dark" character, and making him into a 2nd rate Batman would not be doing his character justice.)

This is from memory way back in the eighties, but I seem to remember that Moore originally wanted to do this as a "parallel world" using the DC characters, but the company said no. I could be misremembering. But Night Owl was supposed to be this world's batman, and Dan Dreiberg struck me as the only really decent character of the whole bunch. As such, I'd expect him to be less "dark" than the other characters.

> Also I thought Rorshach's voice was a more distinctive monotone. He sounds just like any random guy whispering in this.

Did anyone else have trouble listening to Rorshach in the trailer? I could hear him fine in the "standard resolution" trailer, but his voice is drowned out by the music in the HD version. I wasn't expecting anything particularly different there -- Rorshach is a normal human, after all.

> But based on the production clips it seems like the director is really trying to be true to the story and look of the comic, so as long as they don't change the ending I don't see that it could be THAT horrible, no matter if Alan Moore has already disowned it (he disowns like ALL his movie adaptations, doesn't he?)

Agreed. The look is amazingly like the comic. And I applaud them for keeping it in 1985 instead of trying to twist the plot so it would fit in current times.

I'm not familiar with Smashing Pumpkins... what song was that?

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280315)

I believe the song was either "The end is the beginning is the end" or "The beginning is the end is the beginning" off of the Batman Forever soundtrack. Horrible, Horrible movie, but a pretty good soundtrack!

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (5, Informative)

Czarf (730417) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280359)

This is from memory way back in the eighties, but I seem to remember that Moore originally wanted to do this as a "parallel world" using the DC characters, but the company said no. I could be misremembering. But Night Owl was supposed to be this world's batman, and Dan Dreiberg struck me as the only really decent character of the whole bunch. As such, I'd expect him to be less "dark" than the other characters.

The Watchmen characters were originally supposed to be the characters DC purchased from Charlton Comics. When DC decided to use them in their universe instead, Alan Moore created new characters based on them. Nite Owl is his version of the Blue Beetle.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (1)

Jardine (398197) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280555)

Did anyone else have trouble listening to Rorshach in the trailer? I could hear him fine in the "standard resolution" trailer, but his voice is drowned out by the music in the HD version. I wasn't expecting anything particularly different there -- Rorshach is a normal human, after all.

In terms of not having any superpowers, I guess he's normal in that respect. I would say that he's a very abnormal human though.

Re:Mixed Feelings definitely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280581)

The Beginning is the End is the Beginning by the Smashing Pumpkins

Coincidentally, coming from a Batman Soundtrack

If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (3, Informative)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279481)

If you'd seen The Dark Knight, you'd have seen this trailer.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (4, Interesting)

edbulldog (851508) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279561)

IF you saw The Dark Knight and IF you are from a country where they are showing this trailer. I surely didn'y saw it.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (2, Informative)

rufus t firefly (35399) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280025)

Just go catch it at Apple's trailer site [apple.com] , where it has been since the day before Dark Knight debuted.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279855)

If you'd seen The Dark Knight, you'd have seen this trailer.

Not yesterday in the theater I visited in the midwest.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280011)

They are not showing it at IMAX theatres. Just a FYI

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1)

cens0r (655208) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280303)

They showed it at my IMAX Friday night. I think it was done by the theater themselves, because there was about 10 seconds of harry potter music before it started.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280459)

They showed it an IMAX near me too, were you at the Minnesota zoo?

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280053)

Wrong. Saw Dark Knight twice this weekend, in two different theaters. Only saw the Watchmen trailer one. So shut your fucking pie hole.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280229)

If you'd seen The Dark Knight, you'd have seen this trailer.

Nope. They skipped it for us. Saw 007 which I hope hope hope they don't screw up, they had a few others that were utterly forgettable to the point I don't remember what they were, but no Watchmen.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280295)

Body of Lies and Terminator Salvation here.

Re:If you'd seen The Dark Knight... (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280535)

Ah, that's the one. Terminator Salivation, I keep miscalling it. About as bad as a friend who always read "destiny" as "density" so he'd keep saying "So when I was playing Spear of Desnity --fuck, destiny! So when I was playing SOD..." Heh. Fun to prank him on this. Hold our hands out dramatically to him say "Screw up everything you say, Luke, it is your density!"

Saw the trailer prior to Dark Knight... (1)

Samurai Cat! (15315) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279483)

Looks freaking AWESOME. And Jackie Earle Haley is creepy looking enough to physically portray a great Rorschach (sp?)...

Wish... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279501)

Wish we had a mixed-feelings spawn point in our office.

Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279509)

This is madness!

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279849)

This is madness!

This! Is! SPARTAAAAAA!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279513)

Who watches the Watchmen trailer?

Oh, right. That would be us.

Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (4, Insightful)

imipak (254310) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279657)

Oh man, I've not waited so eagerly for a film since, ooh, Matrix Reloaded, or Phantom Menace... or possibly Scanner, Darkly.

This is not a good sign.

Why, oh why, are all the films of Alan Moore stories made to date been so lame? (Let's see, Constantine - total turkey; V for Vendetta - probably the least bad so far, scrupulously faithful to surface texture whilst completely missing the point; League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - almost as bad as Constantine;... From Hell - well I've not seen that, but as us cricket fans would say, it returned to the pavilion without troubling the scorer.

I know he's got his name pulled for reasons of principle, but really if it were purely down to "how good a film is it?" that would also be a good move.

If anyone out there's only seen the crappy films but not read the books, do yourself a favour and pick them up. Start with Watchmen. It's one of those works that seems to get more relevant every year.

Personally, I'm waiting for "D.R. And Quinch" or "Halo Jones" to be filmed =)

Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (1)

ajm (9538) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280289)

Halo Jones - Now that would be a excellent one. Three different sections would make it tough to do though. "Anybody could have done it."

Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (1)

lgw (121541) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280677)

I really liked the Constantine movie - why all the hate over that one?

Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (1)

cptnapalm (120276) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280683)

D.R. and Quinch would be so funny... If they did it serially, I'd buy a ticket for a hundred bucks for the summer camp story.

MPAA keeps you safe again (5, Interesting)

ThanatosMinor (1046978) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279583)

The trailer for Watchmen got the E.T. treatment.
Just in case you were afraid that the character on screen was going to shoot you, his gun has been replaced by a walkie-talkie [wordpress.com] .

Billy Crudup (1)

jockeys (753885) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279595)

I think it's pretty nifty that the dude playing Dr. Manhattan (Billy Crudup) is an actor that already has some pretty decent geek (well, otaku...) cred:

he voiced Ashitaka in Mononoke-Hime.

soundtrack? (1)

Aurisor (932566) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279607)

Anyone know the name of the song in the trailer? I'm almost positive it's by the pumpkins, but I've never heard the song before (and I have a lot of pumpkins :) ).

Re:soundtrack? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279641)

It's either "The End is the Beginning is the End" or "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning" (or some variant of that) from the Batman and Robin soundtrack.

the beginning is the end is the beginning, and... (2, Informative)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279649)

... you don't have a lot of pumpkins.

Re:the beginning is the end is the beginning, and. (1)

negated (981743) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279771)

...it's also used in "Batman & Robin", arguably the worst big budget superhero movie ever. Ironic, no?

-S

Re:soundtrack? (1)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279661)

Anyone know the name of the song in the trailer? I'm almost positive it's by the pumpkins, but I've never heard the song before (and I have a lot of pumpkins :) ).

I believe it's "The End is the Beginning of the End".

Re:soundtrack? (1)

ink (4325) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280325)

Here's a youtube of it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xSPFNq2KsFE

Smashing Pumpkins - The End Is The Beginning Is The End. Fluke does a pretty damn good remix of it, if you can track it down.

Cool (2, Informative)

Ours (596171) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279639)

Every scene shown brings me back to it's corresponding scene in the comic. The characters look spot on. Damn is this getting my hopes up. It's going to be hard.

Re:Cool (1)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279769)

When I first heard they were making a Watchmen movie, I cringed. I remember what a sham League of Extraordinary Gentleman was, and I couldn't see Watchmen faring much better. Seeing the trailer, along with the recent track record of movies that finally do right by their comic book inspirations -- Iron Man, the rebooted Batman and Hulk -- I'm left with some hope that it might actually be pretty good after all.

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280265)

It's already hard.
 
Oh...the hopes. Right.

As long as the director makes it a gay porn... (2, Funny)

mujadaddy (1238164) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279653)

Check that, Jingoistic gay porn...

300 wasn't that bad... (1)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279697)

naaaah - scratch that - 300 sucked giant gobs of poo. I was thinking of Wall-E. Wall-E was cute. I don't know how I got that confused. Prediction: Watchmen will rock the noobs and tards but disappoint the steadfast.

Re:300 wasn't that bad... (0, Troll)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279803)

Watchmen will rock the noobs and tards but disappoint the steadfast

Which is why you should definitely post a link to your much better version, no question.

You went to the wrong movie (3, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280165)

That what you saw was Meet the Spartans.

Re:300 wasn't that bad... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280131)

in this case the steadfast are the noobs and tards.

Loved it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279705)

I saw the Trailer during the midnight showing of Batman, and though I've never read the comic, It looked amazing.

Re:Loved it (4, Funny)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279751)

I saw the Trailer during the midnight showing of Batman, and though I've never read the comic, It looked amazing.

Hey now. Read the comic, otherwise you may actually watch the movie without a sense of bitterness and outrage. :)

Re:Loved it (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280389)

Hey now. Read the comic, otherwise you may actually watch the movie without a sense of bitterness and outrage. :)

That's never been necessary in the past so I don't see how it would be now.

Re:Loved it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280031)

and though I've never read the comic,

Fucking heretic. Go buy it. Read it. NOW!

I'm sold (2)

falloutgib (585732) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279719)

The trailer has pretty much assuaged all my fears -- and the movie is 2.5 hrs long, so I think most of the important plot will be in there. I don't even care about the "Pirate Comic". I also thought V for Vendetta and 300 were great, so to each their own. Wanted should have been aborted. I'm a lot more excited for this than I am the devastation that will be Fallout 3.

The Watchmen? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279723)

Who watches them?

A March release date (3, Insightful)

Scareduck (177470) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279757)

tells me they don't have a lot of faith in this movie. February and March are typically dumping grounds for films that got made but nobody has confidence in.

Re:A March release date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279913)

Or they simply couldn't pass up the chance for a 03.06.09 release date.

Re:A March release date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280037)

Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that other movie Zach Snyder made was released in March and did over 70 mil it's opening weekend...

Re:A March release date (2, Interesting)

holden caufield (111364) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280349)

Bingo. Although the "03/06/09" thing is probably a nice coincidence, I think this is a combination of Snyder's previous success with "300" and with Hollywood seeing that a movie like this doesn't need to - or possibly want to open in the summertime to open big.

Because Memorial Day weekend is known as a time for Big Movie Releases, the schedule that weekend may be becoming too crowded, or the studios fear releasing that weekend raises expectations beyond what is reasonable.

Regardless, not opening in the summer means you can see it three months sooner, so stop complaining!

Come on... take it ONE step further... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280521)

03.06.09....12?

You know... As on the clock...

Re:A March release date (1)

Debased Manc (1313649) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280193)

Given some of the crap that gets felched out to the unsuspecting public that they do have confidence in, I'm not really ready to use the studios are arbiters of quality

And really, the best outcome would be a brilliant flop - no chance of anyone pulling out a sequel from their backsides then

Discovering 'Watchmen 2: Rorschach goes Yoda' in production would be about as pleasant as finding a video of the other half getting gangbanged by AIDS infested midgets on youporn.

Re:A March release date (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280567)

You sir have given hope to many a legion who merely thought that their minds were in the gutter.

Never read Watchman, looked like Matrix III (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279813)

Heard it was the greatest thing ever from other comic book fans.

After seeing the trailer I can't only liken it to The Matrix 3. It felt like watching the end of the Matrix Trilogy.

I don't get the story. From what others have told me, it was a bit more "realistic" than other comic book stories yet I'm seeing flying blue people and other World Destroyers.

D~y

Read the comic! (2, Interesting)

ctid (449118) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279915)

It is like nothing else out there and it's worth knowing the story before seeing the film. The comic's author is adamant that it's a different art-form and should be considered as a comic so it's worth seeing the comic first so that your first impression is of the story in its intended form. That said, I'm going to see the movie of course!

Only comic to have won the Hugo? (2, Insightful)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280493)

The comic won a Hugo award, and I believe it may be the only comic ever to have done so. At the least, it's one of a very elite few. In other words, definitely worth reading.

Re:Read the comic! (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280561)

The comic's author is adamant that it's a different art-form and should be considered as a comic so it's worth seeing the comic first so that your first impression is of the story in its intended form.

Yeah, but Alan Moore is also adamant that a typo on the back cover of his complimentary copies of "V for Vendetta" was a good reason for throwing them all in the trash. He's honestly a bit of a putz about all sorts of things relating to his creative works.

Personally, ever since the first time I read the graphic novel, I couldn't help thinking about it as storyboards for a film. Moore can deny it all he wants, but Gibbons is apparently a very cinematographic illustrator.

Re:Read the comic! (5, Insightful)

Kelbear (870538) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280731)

This is an important aspect that I think is critical for successful adaptations. The writer/developer/director needs to understand and capitalize on the advantages of the medium, rather than simply regurgitate the material in the same form as it was received.

The Watchmen did some interesting things by supporting the main comic format with letters, articles, and prose in order to flesh out the background of the world. In a book, brevity can be sacrificed for extensive levels of detail. In a movie, you've got the full focus of the audience onto the screen in order to present the director's imagining of the story. This can enable an inspired accounting of the material, but is a double-edged sword since he must take the reins of imagination from the audience and guide it in the most entertaining fashion possible in a 1.5-2.5 hour timespan. He's armed with both visual and auditory effects to bring the story to life...as long as he has the budget.

There are particular advantages and disadvantages to each medium that really need to be taken into consideration to provide the most entertaining experience possible. The presenter must recognize what was used in the original medium and what must be done to successfully execute the material in the presenter's medium. If the best aspects of the comic fail to carry over to the movie he'd damn well better find another way to make it succeed or it's just a cheap knock-off that never needed to be made in the first place.

In this particular case, the Watchmen is some pretty heavy material in a dense comic-book form. He's already been supplied with the storyboards, but he'll need to nail the right look and sound, while preserving the key aspects of the storyline. The storyboard should carry over fairly easily, but he won't have the supporting stories and reading material, which he may need to replace by squeezing in brief and/or subtle moments of insight in the course of the movie.

Most importantly, the movie better not have a happy ending.

Re:Never read Watchman, looked like Matrix III (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279957)

From what others have told me, it was a bit more "realistic" than other comic book stories yet I'm seeing flying blue people and other World Destroyers.

But remember, for many comic book fans that is realistic. : p

Re:Never read Watchman, looked like Matrix III (2, Interesting)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280145)

"Realistic" in the sense that it's closer to how the world would react to super heroes/villains and how those super heroes/villains would probably react to the real world. In the real world, we're not going to be ok with some masked vigilantes running around enforcing justice. And the world's problems aren't going to be solved by someone just because they can fly or are super strong.

But there is no massively oversimplifying Eastern philosophy in the guise of a kung-fu movie so it's not really that similar to a Matrix sequel even if it might look that way to someone.

I smell a flop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24279943)

just my 2 cents...

Rorshach (2, Interesting)

FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) | more than 5 years ago | (#24279995)

Could anyone tell about Rorshach's mask? I always pictured it continually in (slow) motion, almost like a lava lamp... but it looks like the blots were unchanging. Maybe it just changes from scene to scene?

Re:Rorshach (1)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280191)

His mask changed. It was subtle. Watch the trailer again, and watch along his jaw line. You'll see it.

okay, WOW. that trailer looks good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280039)

I haven't read the comic in a couple of years, but that trailer looked VERY good.
We will have to see whether the story holds up or not though.

re Slashdot's Hunger For Comic Strip News (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24280085)

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Shame, shame, shame on all of you. It is well past time to put away childish things and grow up.

Looks good (2, Interesting)

Debased Manc (1313649) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280097)

Thought the trailer looked quite good - although given how iconic the bloody smiley is, I was surprised I didn't see it there, unless I missed it.

Given the complexity and layers of the book, I don't expect it to be slavishly followed by the movie - in fact I hope it doesn't, and neither should any of the books fans as there's no way a movie could successfully manage that.

I want a good Watchmen movie, one that has the themes and idea of the book, one that always has something new to discover in it and one that entertains.

Simply copying the book would be even worse than van Sant's duplication of Psycho. I want the spirit to be kept true to, not the actual pages.

Re:Looks good (1)

BigFire (13822) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280243)

The smiley button is definitely there. Look at the Vietnam footage featuring a jovial Comedian flame torching some Viet Con. It's part of his post 60s custom.

Re:Looks good (2, Insightful)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280443)

I want the spirit to be kept true to, not the actual pages.

Then you are among the few.

Most fans would rather have movies based on books and comics copied page for page to the screen than making it according to the spirit.
Or whatever spirit means to the director, producers, studio execs, toy makers and actors.

Read the EW article [ew.com] - it should help you see how much of the book has been copied verbatim and how much of it was adapted while being "true to the spirit".

Oh... and the smiley is there. Comedian is wearing it in the Vietnam. Minus the bloodstain of course.
And it appears in the end - on the date of the movie. This one is with the bloodstain.

The look is perfect (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280401)

The question is... how much did they have to cut from the words?

Clearly they are trying to do a faithful adaption. I 'll see twice even if it is horrible.

Watchmen "Motion Comic" on iTunes...and is free (1)

UttBuggly (871776) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280575)

iTunes has a Watchmen "Motion Comic" episode up and it's a freebie.

Now the bizarre thing is that the panels and text balloons are EXACTLY like the graphic novel, with some "motion" applied. It's not animated, per se, but it isn't static either. This is good, very good.

The bizarre part is that the voices...ALL THE VOICES in Chapter 1, including females, are voiced by male "actors". And it's as bad as it sounds. In fact, the terrible voice acting almost ruins this.

I decided that the opportunity to "read" the novel again...on my iPod no less...was worth the price of free.

As for the trailer...I could quibble, but won't. So far, this looks better than I thought it would. If Snyder doesn't wimp out on the ending, this could be the third part of the "superhero movies go mainstream" trifecta, with Iron Man and The Dark Knight being the first two.

We'll see......

Bombed during dark knight (2, Insightful)

assemblerex (1275164) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280617)

The trailer came on an no one knew what the heck it was, and it was dead quiet when it ended. Basically all I got from the trailer was "Glowing blue guys".

Trailer vs Original images comparison (2, Interesting)

markh1967 (315861) | more than 5 years ago | (#24280671)

There's a scene by scene comparison of the trailer and the relevant panels from the graphic novel here [ropeofsilicon.com] . It looks remarkably similar and I'm quite hopeful that this will be a credible conversion now.
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