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MacBook Updates Rumored To Include Glass Trackpad

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the unfounded-speculation dept.

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CWmike writes to tell us that Seth Weintraub has been hearing some interesting rumors surrounding the next iteration of Apple's MacBook line. "I have been hearing some interesting things about Apple's upcoming line of portable computers. The talk amongst insiders on the new MacBooks is kind of scattered but here's a summation of what I've heard: The new models are thinner than current MacBook and MacBook Pros and slightly more rounded, taking design cues from the MacBook Air; the trackpad is glass, multi-touch and uses gestures. The screen isn't multi-touch; the body is manufactured out of one piece of aluminum. Eco-friendly, yet sturdy. Manufacturing process is completely different; the release date will be in the last weeks of September."

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I don't get it... (5, Insightful)

Otter (3800) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373263)

Eco-friendly, yet sturdy.

What makes this "eco-friendly"? The glass trackpad? The "manufactured out of one piece of aluminum"?

Re:I don't get it... (4, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373317)

they paid off the right groups

-or-

realistically they know what words sell.

Re:I don't get it... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373331)

But "OOK! It's shiny!!"

Re:I don't get it... (3, Funny)

DaveV1.0 (203135) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373597)

Here, you dropped this:

L

Re:I don't get it... (3, Funny)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373749)

Here, you dropped this:

Not necessarily, he could be a monkey.

Re:I don't get it... (5, Funny)

Bovarchist (782773) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374071)

I don't think The Librarian would post AC.

Re:I don't get it... (5, Informative)

imcleod (94945) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374119)

Not necessarily, he could be a monkey.

You mean orangutan. NEVER call him a monkey.

Re:I don't get it... (4, Funny)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 5 years ago | (#24375139)

Ook?

Re:I don't get it... (1)

twiddlingbits (707452) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374523)

Obligatory Bender quote "Bite my shiny metal ass!"

Re:I don't get it... (5, Funny)

martinw89 (1229324) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373333)

Ah, you accidentally looked over the fact that it runs on new Ego(TM) power, not electricity. Common mistake.

Re:I don't get it... (2, Funny)

Quattro Vezina (714892) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374321)

You can thank your sig for inspiring this:

from ego import *
 
Jobs.ego = Ego()
 
while True:
    jobs.ego *= 2

Re:I don't get it... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373339)

The plastic sticker on the box. It wasn't tested on animals, contains zero trans fats and opposes the war in Iraq.

Re:I don't get it... (2, Funny)

Shade of Pyrrhus (992978) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374925)

New, more eco-friendly version! Doesn't come with a box or plastic sticker!

Re:I don't get it... (1)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 5 years ago | (#24375153)

You forgot the joint endorsement from Al Gore and Barack Obama.

Re:I don't get it... (3, Insightful)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373341)

They are most likely going on about the more energy efficient processors.

Re:I don't get it... (1, Insightful)

doombringerltx (1109389) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374233)

Lately they've been using core2 desktop processors and not mobile chips in their laptops and are still hailed as being ecofriendly. I doubt for the next gen they will be using intel Atom or the AMD turion chips, or anything else thats actually geared towards being an energy efficent mobile chip. Now a days being "eco-friendly" is just pointing to one or two places where you are saving the enviroment. I could ship people huge bags of thallium, mercury and dead baby condors and still be hailed as eco-friendly as long as the packaging was recycled.

Just wrong! (3, Informative)

mabhatter654 (561290) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374865)

Apple has NEVER used desktop processors in ANY of their Intel lines. Even Mini and iMac use notebook processors, and the Mac Pros use Server-grade Xeon processors. That give them an edge up in buying quantity over Dell because they only buy higher margin parts that Intel likes to sell, not "cheap" ones.

They are considered more "eco-friendly" because they are removing parts and changing to reusable materials. I have an old Snow iBook and the thing is a complex mess of two layers of plastic with "tin foil" to try to meet EMI requirements. The new macbook has barely any parts inside.. only one PCB even. By changing to a metal frame it makes the machine mostly glass and metal... all things nearly 100% recyclable versus plastic that's "sort of" recyclable and required high priced oil to make. I'm sure it's also CHEAPER for them to do (or more marketable) or they wouldn't be doing it either. Apple is looking for ways to separate themselves from the pack, and to cut down on repairs of all those white plastic pieces.

Re:I don't get it... (1)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374887)

Lately they've been using core2 desktop processors and not mobile chips [...]

What ?

Tough one... (3, Informative)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373521)

I've really been trying to figure it out, but I can't. If it does have a second LCD in the trackpad as smitty97 speculates, it sure won't be more eco-friendly:

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07/04/lcd-greenhouse-gas-worries/1 [bit-tech.net]

Also if it has a 1-piece aluminum chassis, it will be more difficult to repair, therefore more likely to be replaced, therefore more hardware going into landfills, therefore less eco-friendly. The case itself is sturdier but if it's one hard piece of aluminum, the internals will take more damage and the case will take less. Again, less eco-friendly. A good case for preventing damage would be a replaceable one made of thin, soft metal.

Also getting the parts inside such a case would be a nightmare...I guess the screen would have a slit on the bottom where the internals are inserted and then clipped into place, and the body would just have removable bays as usual, but then the mobo and keyboard would be non-replaceable.

Re:Tough one... (2, Interesting)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373919)

These are Apple products anyway. Out of the past 100 distinct Apple notebooks I've seen (trust me, I am not exaggerating here) in the past year, maybe five of them were not brand new MacBooks or MBPs. Admittedly, the G4s are extra-old-and-busted (biggest waste of my money ever...), but it seems that people buy new Apple computers with their spring shopping anyway.

And they can finally get full benefit from their inflated RAM and HD prices. Ballsy move, if true, but it will probably work out.

Re:Tough one... (1)

ksheff (2406) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374111)

I would think the internals would be damaged more by a thin soft case than by a sturdy one. Panasonic would love to know how they got their ToughBook totally wrong if that was the case. Once a macbook is considered DOA, someone can rip out the circuit boards, throw the AL case in one pile that goes to the scrap metal yard, the screen & trackpad cover in a pile to go to the glass recycler.

Re:Tough one... (4, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374677)

I would think the internals would be damaged more by a thin soft case than by a sturdy one.

There needs to be a happy medium. Most damage to a notebook with be blunt-force, not sharp-pointy. As long as the energy from a fall is used up in deforming the exterior, the interior will take less damage. If the exterior is made of diamond, the interior will slam into the diamond exterior with the same energy as if it had hit the ground itself. Of course, if someone's stabbing your laptop, you'll want a hard case, and maybe better working/living conditions.

Re:Tough one... (3, Insightful)

ksheff (2406) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374911)

AL will flex some, but I don't think they are trying to protect against a stabbing (although that could be a design consideration for the UK) as much as someone accidentally stepping on it, being pressed up against another hard object in book bag, vehicle storage, etc. Shocks from drops can be addressed with a dampening material at the circuit board mounting points.

Re:Tough one... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24375007)

Actually you'll want a chainmail case.

Re:Tough one... (2, Informative)

mjpaci (33725) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374853)

Aluminum is very recyclable. I really doubt many Aluminum chasis make it past the sorters and into a landfill. Hell, Al cans vanish out of my recycling bin before the truck even gets there. It's magic!

Re:Tough one... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374977)

I disagree...

I work at an Apple Store (therefor the AC, and obviously take what I say with a grain of salt as I'm as much a fanboi as the best of em').

From everyone's perspective, having repairs done in larger part replacements are much better. There is one flaw with your statement. The large replaced part isn't just thrown away, but rather can be refurbished.

Consider an LCD display on a laptop. We'll low-ball and say there are 7 individual replaceable parts and cables. Brick and Mortar big box retail stores get shipments from all shipping companies for all different purposes from all over the globe. With Air and Ground shipping for say 4 failed parts in an LCD panel (say it's a liquid damaged LCD) and you get shipments from DHL, UPS, and FedEx delivering all of your parts over a period of 3 days. Now, if you only have to order a monitor clam-shell instead of 4 different parts, you have 1 shipment on 1 single day. When you are sending parts back to be refurbed or recycled or trashed, you are sending a single item as opposed to several different packages. From an inventory standpoint this means MUCH less paperwork per shipment and less boxes/packing material being used to ship and be trashed/recycled.

For users, repairs can be done faster. (If repairs can be done while customer waits, only one car trip out to store)

For retail stores, more repairs can be done in-store. This means fewer repairs will be packaged and shipped out to repair centers.

I just don't see how single part replacements are bad. This allows Apple to help end users more effectively. It takes less shipping and packing, and as I've understood eco-matters (and I won't pretend to be the brightest bulb on the matter), air cargo and travel are pretty big carbon emitters. Apple can then refurb/recycle the part in a larger warehouse environment that is more adept at repairing the individual components of the larger part.

Any-hoo... just my $0.04

Re:I don't get it... (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373529)

Apparently the materials used to make the Air are relatively environmentally friendly, and this sounds similar, so they extrapolated.

Re:I don't get it... (5, Funny)

etnoy (664495) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373577)

Apparently the materials used to make the Air are relatively environmentally friendly

Duh. It's made of air

You're doing it wrong (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373741)

When Apple releases or announces a new product/update you're supposed to:

* Jump up and down

* Wildly clap your hands

* Have tears of joy in your eyes

* Tinkle in your panties

* Instinctively start throwing large denomination bills from your wallet at the article, TV screen, or print add that has the Apple product on it

Re:I don't get it... (2, Funny)

ethanms (319039) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373753)

What makes this "eco-friendly"?

Al Gore is on their board of directors... therefore everything they make is automatically considered to be eco-friendly...

Just like Al Gore's giant house w/ huge power consumption bills... b-b-b-but I was spending that power on computing climate models to prove what horrible polluters American's are!

Re:I don't get it... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373761)

I think they made a typo.

Ego-friendly*

Re:I don't get it... (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373897)

My guess it is the aluminum that is "eco-friendly" Aluminum is super easy to recycle compared to plastic but then so is glass.
Not a lot of other info so it is all guess work at this time.
Now to make it really "eco-friendly" they should promise to support it with ten years and promise that all future versions of OS/X for the next ten years will run on it.
Not going to happen but I would so love to see the end of disposable computers.

Re:I don't get it... (1)

ksheff (2406) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373989)

the guys shuffling around down pushing shopping carts full of cans are going to be after your MacBook now.

Re:I don't get it... (4, Funny)

nategoose (1004564) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374195)

It's not made of dolphins.

Re:I don't get it... (1)

Mattsson (105422) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374435)

Thought about the same thing.
Is aluminium more environmentally friendly to produce than other materials used in laptops?
Or is it the process of making it out of one piece of aluminium as opposed to using several pieces of aluminium? =/

Re:I don't get it... (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374993)

It's eco-friendly because it's nice an light so a hermit crab will be able to use it as a home when it becomes out dated and chucked in the ocean.

Yeah... (0, Troll)

Wiarumas (919682) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373271)

...but can it run Linux?

God, sorry people.

Re:Yeah... (3, Informative)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373305)

Yes. Yes it can actually.

so much for easy HD/Memory swaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373613)

If the case is one piece, say goodbye to the easy service bays for HD/Memory in the current MacBooks.

Re:so much for easy HD/Memory swaps (1)

hplus (1310833) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374045)

The RAM/HD bay in my Macbook is behind the battery. I DNRTFA, but I don't see why having the body be a single piece of aluminum would prevent them from doing the same thing.

Re:so much for easy HD/Memory swaps (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374075)

You mean, you can actually get the HD out without tearing the machine apart into a million pieces now? Well, that's a pleasant surprise. When did this start happening? Because I still haven't seen this.

Re:so much for easy HD/Memory swaps (1)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374137)

Only in the macbook can you easily service the ram and hard drive. In the macbook pro the only 'user' serviceable part is the ram. The reality of taking apart a macbook pro is out of the reach of most users.

An iPhone screen for a trackpad? (4, Interesting)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373301)

I hope under the glass trackpad there's a little display just like the iPhone's.

Re:An iPhone screen for a trackpad? (5, Funny)

LordKaT (619540) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373489)

Why, so you can glance up and down constantly to see what you're doing, and then curse occasionally as you press the wrong spot on the trackpad and open several programs at once?

Re:An iPhone screen for a trackpad? (4, Funny)

vslashg (209560) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373889)

I hope under the glass trackpad there's a little display just like the iPhone's.

Presenting the new smitty97 MacBook Touch [wikipedia.org] .

Re:An iPhone screen for a trackpad? (1)

brendank310 (915634) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374689)

I think it would be kind of cool to have a screen there, or even just along the bottom of the glass, that had the dock replicated in some fashion. You could just tap on the application and bring it up.

How Did This Make It To The Front Page? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373383)

Outside of the tiny niche Apple fanbase no one cares.

Are there really so little open source/Linux news stories out there that these filler type stories need to take the place of real open source news?

This place is turning into nothing more than a marketing blog.

Re:How Did This Make It To The Front Page? (3, Informative)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373435)

Since when was /. (officially) devoted to Linux/open source?

Re:How Did This Make It To The Front Page? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373553)

since before VA LINUX bought them.

Re:How Did This Make It To The Front Page? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373685)

It's not about being devoted exclusively to Linux/FOSS, it's about the simple fact that this entire "article" is that there's a rumour that new Macbooks might have a glass touchpad and an aluminium casing. Even if that was a stone-cold fact it wouldn't be newsworthy, so as a rumour it's complete bullshit. The GP is right.

Re:How Did This Make It To The Front Page? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374171)

In fact, Apple related stories have been FAR MORE prominent on Slashdot than Lin-sux stories. CmdrTaco himself switched to Macs from Lin-sux almost immediately after OS X was released, and has never looked back (like most smart people who use OS X instead of Lin-sux). In addition, open sores may be common on slashdot (heh heh), but it is closed source software along the likes of OS X, Photoshop, etc that elicit the most in depth coverage here, owing in no small part to their superior security, stability, and features compared to the open sores competition. Times have changed, people. Open sores and lin-sux were heavily hyped in the early 2000's but quickly ran out of steam as Apple and even Microsoft outpaced the idiot open sores/lin-sux developers with a superior development methodology. Suck it fanboys.

Glass trackpad? (5, Interesting)

rtechie (244489) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373421)

What are the advantages of a glass trackpad? Wouldn't your finger stick to it?

Re:Glass trackpad? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373617)

It would be either film-coated glass or applique-covered glass. There's no way they'd let you actually TOUCH raw glass. That would be stupid.

Re:Glass trackpad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373719)

you can see your own miserable reflection

A little KY will help with that! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373983)

Smooooooooth!

Re:Glass trackpad? (4, Interesting)

adisakp (705706) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374039)

What are the advantages of a glass trackpad?

Bling factor! It looks and feels more "expensive" not to mention the glass is harder so it won't scratch with use. Most trackpads kinda feel like a cheap vinyl / plastic sheet and get "wear" marks in the pad from finger friction after a couple months use..

Wouldn't your finger stick to it?

I'd think that getting fingerprints all over a shiny glossy surface that you are meant to touch all the time would be a bigger issue.

Re:Glass trackpad? (1)

wazzzup (172351) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374051)

As an owner of a few Apple laptops in my day I can say that the initial smooth surface of the trackpads wear off over time and whatever material is underneath, while functional, isn't as smooth making usage of the trackpad for long sessions uncomfortable. Your fingertips feel slightly "raw" after a while.

I would imagine glass doesn't have this issue.

Re:Glass trackpad? (5, Funny)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374363)

The superior solution is obviously the clit mouse [xkcd.com] .

Re:Glass trackpad? (1)

cnettel (836611) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374729)

Maybe with Apple machines. For some reason, I can't stand the trackpad on my MacBook for any prolonged time (maybe it's really the keyboard, as I generally use either external KB + mouse, or internal KB + trackpad). Therefore, it hasn't really been heavily used. My last two portable PCs were used for 4 years each. The trackpad surface never gave me any problems, and it was used heavily on both. (The last one was a Dell Inspiron 8600.)

Re:Glass trackpad? (1)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374105)

I don't see the advantage either. Even if it's coated to make it slicker... what happens when the coating wears through? Then you've got a "rough" spot? If I can wear out mouse feet and mouse pads, I can certainly wear out a trackpad coating. Besides, aside from typical Apple "oooh shiny" reasoning, is there a reason to reinvent the wheel here? I've never had any trouble with any old touchpads.

Re:Glass trackpad? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374301)

Wouldn't your finger stick to it?

Only if your finger is covered with glue. Seriously have you never tried the demo units (iPod Touch, iPhone) at an Apple Store?

Re:Glass trackpad? (1)

rtechie (244489) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374487)

Yeah. My fingers stick to those. It's very difficult to do any sort of "sliding" motion. I found scrolling near-impossible on iPhones for this reason. Putting rubbing alcohol on my fingers (to dry them out) helped quite a bit. And when I used a little stylus, everything worked perfectly. But the idea of a touchpad that requires a stylus seems... odd to me.

Re:Glass trackpad? (2, Insightful)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374711)

Bullshit. Styli don't function on the iPhone, only fingers. Why make things up?

Re:Glass trackpad? (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374539)

What are the advantages of a glass trackpad? Wouldn't your finger stick to it?

They could put a miniature display in it, so you'd have a contextual touch-screen.

How about adding A bigger screen and video cards.. (0, Flamebait)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373467)

How about adding A bigger screen and video cards $1500 for a 13" screen and Intel GMA when there are 15" laptops with geforce 9700 and 4gb of ram at $1,249.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8906133&type=product&id=1213046768588 [bestbuy.com]

$2000 just to get a 15" bigger screen and 8600gt 256 with only 2GB memory?

$2,499.00 to get a 8600gt 512 with 2GB memory?

$2,799.00 for a 17" screen and still only 2GB memory?

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1, Funny)

BalmyBrute (1322643) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373585)

Why would you want what you payed for? Don't you enjoy being robbed? I think that the shinyness of MacBook compensates for its lack of pwnage.

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373877)

Why would you want what you payed for?

What does this have to do with letting a ship fall off to leeward?

"Payed" is a word that does not belong in a spelling checker as, like "wether", it is a word you generally don't intend to use. Most people would use "paid".

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

BalmyBrute (1322643) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374261)

Good god! I apologize! The slight misspelling of that word must have made the entire pose unreadable!

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

GuyverDH (232921) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374513)

Not sure about the entire pose, but definitely left a bitter aftertaste after reading the *post*...

Sorry friend, you set it up, I knocked it down.

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24373627)

The intel GMA is fine for a laptop and is well supported for those of us who dual boot linux. What specific applications do you need a better video card on a Macbook for?

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373767)

At $1500 it should be better or at least put a bigger screen in.

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373879)

except the Macbook is 1099 not 1500 base and the extra you pay to bump it up to the 1500 level are in processor, disk drive, memory and hard drive

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (3, Informative)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373837)

13" lightweight laptops are more expensive than the big bulky 15.4" laptops of the same specs.

This is true across the board.

The Macbook actually compares very well with current offerings from Dell. Compare it to the Vostro 1310 and XPS 1330. The Macbook specs are getting slightly dated in comparison to Dell's frequent updates, but when the new Macbook comes out expect the specs to be as good or better for the price than similarly-equipped laptops from other manufacturers.

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (2, Insightful)

Quattro Vezina (714892) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374279)

Why do you assume bigger is better? I'd rather have a 13" laptop than a 15" laptop.

My perfect laptop form factor would be a 12" non-widescreen with nVidia discrete graphics. Oh, and it would be even more awesome if it were a tablet and doubly awesome if I could rotate it into portrait mode.

Too bad the ThinkPad X61 only has GMA...

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

Atti K. (1169503) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374951)

Why do you assume bigger is better? I'd rather have a 13" laptop than a 15" laptop.

My perfect laptop form factor would be a 12" non-widescreen with nVidia discrete graphics.

I definitely agree. However, TFA says that:

16:9 screens which come in slightly bigger sizes: 14 inch and 15.6 inch with different resolutions, obviously.

Pretty disappointing... Come on Apple, everybody wants subnotebooks nowadays, and you increase the screen size??? If these rumors are true, the only 13 inch Macbook will be the Air?
I still hope Apple will make a 12 (or, who knows, maybe 10 :) inch notebook in the near future...

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

drsmithy (35869) | more than 5 years ago | (#24375073)

My perfect laptop form factor would be a 12" non-widescreen with nVidia discrete graphics. Oh, and it would be even more awesome if it were a tablet and doubly awesome if I could rotate it into portrait mode.

Not quite sure why the discrete graphics is so important. It's not like you'll be playing any high-end games on a machine like that (which will inevitably have a form-factor requiring a relatively slow ULV CPU).

Re:How about adding A bigger screen and video card (1)

kyle74 (896634) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374453)

wish Apple would make a 14.1 inch macbook. 13' is just a little too small for me.

Glass? Eww, eww, eww, eww (5, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373513)

I've used a few touchpads in my time, and the bad ones are the ones that either started off glossy, or became glossy because of wear. I'm fine with using glossy touch-screens for tapping around or stylus work, but trying to operate one as a mouse for a long period of time gets immensely annoying. The slightest bit of sweat on my fingertips makes them stick and stutter across.

I've not used an iPhone or iPod touch for long, but I got the impression that they were designed to favour short finger motions on the pad for precisely this reason. I'm not sure it would translate well into a touchpad.

Re:Glass? Eww, eww, eww, eww (4, Informative)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374365)

I've not used an iPhone or iPod touch for long, but I got the impression that they were designed to favour short finger motions on the pad for precisely this reason.

I have to say, I've had an iPhone for a year. At first I was skeptical of the glass because of fingerprints, etc, but in practice I never notice any smudges, and I've *never* had any skipping, etc. In fact, it's remarkably precise, considering the blunt nature of a fingertip.

My theory on the way it works is that it finds the centroid of the pressure region. I've used drawing applications with it, and it's actually amazing how well it works drawing thin lines with a fingertip.

I don't know about a multitouch touchpad, that seems kind of lame. What makes multitouch cool is touching directly on the screen.

Re:Glass? Eww, eww, eww, eww (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374515)

I meant, my finger itself stutters across the surface of some touchpads because it sticks to the glossy material. However it sounds from your description like that's not as much of an issue on an actual glass surface, as opposed to glossy plastics.

Re:Glass? Eww, eww, eww, eww (1)

LordVader717 (888547) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374731)

Modern touchpads don't function with pressure but sense the capacitance of your finger. Just sliding along the srface is enough. That helps deal with skipping.

Touchscreen (1)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373519)

If you want a real revolution, simply making the screen a *touchscreen* would be great, not trying to change the surface material of the touchpad, which people generally hate anyway...

Re:Touchscreen (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373955)

Only if it is going to be a tablet.
I don't want to move my hands that far from the keyboard plus I don't think multi-touch would be all that good for graphics programs.
Now what would rock is a tablet With an external monitor.

Re:Touchscreen (1)

courteaudotbiz (1191083) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374211)

Well... that was implicit... Didn't look like it, but it was ;-)

Re:Touchscreen (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374109)

touchscreens works damn well on things like the iphone or kiosks. but as the default pointer input on a laptop? suck.

that's a 12-17 inch screen you have to move your hand across just to control the pointer... so unless the majority of your apps are entirely pointer driven it's gonna be usability hell. same reason i think tablets aren't that great, useful in very specific situations. (using it like a digital notepad and such).

Re:Touchscreen (5, Informative)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374145)

Look up touchscreen gorilla arm.

That's why touch screens are not great and won't cause a revolution.

yeah aluminum... (2, Interesting)

mzs (595629) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373687)

so the wifi range can be shorter O_o

Re:yeah aluminum... (1)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374121)

It can't be any worse than the Faraday iBook.

Uh, glass isn't needed for multi-touch (1)

SteeldrivingJon (842919) | more than 5 years ago | (#24373727)

It seems like they're assuming an iPod touch screen surface would be required to have a multi-touch trackpad.

This is not the case.

Re:Uh, glass isn't needed for multi-touch (1)

Dekortage (697532) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374221)

It seems like they're assuming an iPod touch screen surface would be required to have a multi-touch trackpad.

Hmm. My current MBP does multi-touch already. Heck, Apple's MBP marketing already states this [apple.com] .

HDMI out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374081)

I just want them to have an HDMI out

Re:HDMI out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374841)

They have DVI out. Go pick up a DVI->HDMI cable on newegg for >$10 and quityerbitchin.

Multi-touch pad (5, Informative)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374189)

the MacBook Pro already has a multi-touch trackpad [apple.com] , so I'm not sure where the rumor part comes in...

Screw trackpads (3, Insightful)

Quattro Vezina (714892) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374231)

If Apple wanted to be cool, they'd dump the trackpad entirely and add a trackpoint.

Yes, that's right. They should switch to the nub. The pencil eraser. The clit mouse. The keyboard clit.

C'mon, it'd be awesome.

Re:Screw trackpads (1)

g0at (135364) | more than 5 years ago | (#24375075)

What? Why?

So does this one (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24374245)

So does this one come with Cancer? Or is still that a secret too? *cough*

The cult of the Fapple is falling down!!

(Moderators: Unsure? Yes, this is a troll. Can you see it because I'm trolling as HARD as I can (yes, this is a Aqua Teen reference))

Made for the villains... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374323)

They called him Mr. Glass.

Re:Made for the villains... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374779)

To counter act a man who had super strength and fortitude but a slightly below average intelligence (but still in the range of normal), but humble is a man who is super frail and sickly with a slightly above average intelligence, with a Huge Ego.

Will Apple be Offering... (1)

tsnorquist (1058924) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374605)

a Stained Glass trackpad to our religious users?

I realize thin is in... (4, Interesting)

spagthorpe (111133) | more than 5 years ago | (#24374743)

But I really would like to see something that I could use a day or two on a charge. If they can make it paper thin and still run a few hours, then surely, they could make something twice as thick that would go for a day?

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