Awesome Pics of CERN's Large Hadron Collider 249
mactard submitted a collection of insanely beautiful pictures of the Large Hadron Collider. I've always had a warm place for amazing photgraphs, and these really don't disappoint. Science really is beautiful sometimes.
3rd photo (Score:5, Funny)
That 3rd photo looks an awful lot like a stargate.
I'm assuming its a shot facing downwards, thus the pool of water or whatever that is, but it just looks cool.
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Truth is stranger than fiction...
Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project [wikipedia.org] -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either.
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"Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project [wikipedia.org] -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either."
Actually they did. You might want to read Mind-Reach, the 1977 original book about SCANATE, the SRI project that later became GRILL FLAME then was closed (at least officially) by the CIA under the name STAR GATE. Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.
http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Reach-Scientists-Psychic-Abilities-Conscious [amazon.com]
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Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.
Care to relate any of them?
The tricky thing about remote viewing is not that it doesn't work, but that it's hard to separate the 'signal' from the 'noise'.
Which is, in essence, the definition of a cold reading. [wikipedia.org]
While I'm at it, check out Banachek [banachek.org].
I'm not saying it's impossible, and I would agree with this:
But when you get significant results that contradict theory, it's the theory that should change, if you're doing science.
However, this being little more than a hobby, I don't really want to buy a book. If the results really are that compelling, there should be some web resource you can point me to.
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You're not the first person to think so [cmsinfo.cern.ch]. It is suspicious that no answer is actually given....
I'm not so sure a question phrased like "...these rings that you are building look like the Stargate. What is to guarantee that you are not building a portal to other universes?" really has a succinct scientific answer other than "It won't. The fact that the detector geometry looks like the Stargate is a coincidence. However,...[insert detailed and extended discussion of LHC extra dimension searches]."
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to bad we don't have a ZPM.
The first comment on the article is hilarious. (Score:5, Funny)
"This thing is going to kill us all."
Re:The first comment on the article is hilarious. (Score:5, Funny)
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Don't cross the streams (Score:5, Informative)
Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.
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Either that, or they'll start an irreversible resonance cascade, opening a portal into another universe.
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sounds like fun, hit the button already ;)
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"This thingis going to kill us all"
Don't worry, be happy....... that if it does it will happen so fast that you won't know it.
However become concerned if you live within 50 miles and the power in your home drops out around the time they turn it on.
that's lots of storage! (Score:2)
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Yes, it does run linux (Score:5, Informative)
This looks like something from Half Life (Score:4, Funny)
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Slashdot + page of high res photos (Score:5, Funny)
.. this can't end well
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Try this: The photolab part of the Cern Document server, search query Maximilien Brice. The 'large' photos are quite large, but register for the high-res versions:
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/search?ln=en&cc=CERN+PhotoLab&sc=1&p=Maximilien+Brice&f=&action_search=Search [cdsweb.cern.ch]
As Ted Stevens would say... (Score:2)
Looking at the LHC, I would say that it looks like a series of tubes...
So, what you're saying is that the tubes are clogging the tubes? *Head asplodes*
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The chances of Slashdot being even a noticeable blip in their traffic logs is pretty low.
Petabytes (Score:3, Informative)
They have enough bandwidth to transfer datasets that are measured in terabytes to universities around the world.
Actually the datasets are now measured in petabytes. The first test petabyte of data, for ATLAS at least, was transfered out of CERN in 2006.
Valve will sue (Score:4, Funny)
this is clearly copyright infringement.
Arise! (Score:2)
What is the condition called where you become sexually aroused by technology?
Well... that's what I've got.
These images set the mind on fire!
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What is the condition called where you become sexually aroused by technology?
Technopr0n!
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What is the condition called where you become sexually aroused by technology?
Technopr0n!
Oops, that's the stuff that gets you there. What I meant to say was C!@L!$
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Sci-Fi Should Look so Cool (Score:2, Insightful)
Next time some sci-fi movie wants to display a massive quasi-government experiment regarding anything, they should look this stuff over. So much cooler looking than the BS that most movies have.
Obsoletely Amazing... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Obsoletely Amazing... (Score:5, Insightful)
+1 on amazing.
I don't know how it works exactly, but it's massive, incredibly complicated and absolutely stunning. Something of a beacon to children becoming interested in science, I'm sure.
A toast to the brains behind it and those who got it funded.
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the most impressive thing (Score:5, Insightful)
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I was thinking the same thing. Could this be the most complex device ever assembled by humankind? Just the diagnostics and debugging seems way beyond daunting.
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And what about reproducibility?.
It would be rather hard too say "Oh yeah, I confirmed that experiment in my laboratory". If something would be wrong wired and thereby giving some false positives, how do you test for those? They must have some redundant checking mechanism somewhere...
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It's tested with processes which were already observed on other experiments. There is awful lot of testing during preparation phase (but also in first year or so), test beams were used during construction of some detectors, cosmic muons that you can detect without beam that produces particles, and, finally, simulations which help to predict detector output. Also there are many different test procedures to check if hardware is properly assembled (or even working properly).
Systematics is a term for that kind
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I'd like to seem some stats on the entire project. Miles of cable, tons of metal, number of computers, data storage, etc. And I think the more interesting one: how many people were involved and what % of them are from each field 500 engineers, 200 physicist, 200 mathematicians (that sort of thing).
The one thing that occurs to me every time I see those pictures: I'd hate to see the CAD drawings for that project.
Even if this isn't the greatest engineering feat of "man" so far, its a genuine marvel to look at.
Blueprint for an alien invasion (Score:5, Funny)
Search for exotic particles? Yeah right!
Re:Blueprint for an alien invasion (Score:5, Funny)
If this wasn't designed by inter-galactic aliens, i'll eat my hat.
I don't think eating tin foil is that great an idea...
.. about the size of a pea. (Score:4, Funny)
System Shock (Score:2)
Do these pics remind anyone else of the original System Shock?
I wonder how much Karma this question will cost me.
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Holy Shit! (Score:5, Funny)
Picture 5, I just spotted the Higgs Boson! Oh no wait, hold on. False alarm folks. Just a dead pixel.
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It took several billion Euros to build the LHC. This is a beautiful picture of the servers that control and manage it. [boston.com] Does anyone else find it odd that they couldn't get a flat screen monitor?
Higgs Photo Here (Score:3, Informative)
ET technology (Score:4, Insightful)
Impressive (Score:2, Interesting)
I've never seen such a complex array of technology outside a Hollywood or video game mock-up. It must be very exciting for the folks on the design team to see this coming together.
And kudos to the photographer(s) who captured these. That was a smart move, collecting such high-res images.
Very nice.
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It must be very exciting for the folks on the design team to see this coming together.
Still, imagine the letdown if they don't find anything. Of course, there's always a silver lining... [xkcd.com]
The Big Picture (Score:3, Informative)
Wow! (Score:3, Funny)
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Dates? (Score:2, Interesting)
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I am not sure if they know them themselves...
Even with an accelerator ring 2 orders of magnitude smaller, stuff and glitches can cause delays, or require checkups before full powerup.
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http://www.lhcountdown.com/ [lhcountdown.com]
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Mon Dieu! (Score:2)
This is for sure the stuff that sets Man apart from Animal!
Now, if we can get the US to stop blowing $billions on killing people and instead invest in human understanding of the greater universe we live in! What a dream... Oh well, the US cares more about dropping bombs on the heads of innocents...
Re:Mon Dieu! (Score:5, Funny)
This is for sure the stuff that sets Man apart from Animal!
Oh, please. The rats keep trying to build a cyclotron in my basement.
Ok (Score:2)
Ok, whats the word I'm looking for? Oh yes, WOW!
Did they hire a designer to design the color scheme? That is simple gorgeous!
machine porn vs beautiful science (Score:4, Insightful)
The tools are beautiful objects, to be sure. But what makes beautiful science is elegant, concise, and simple (within the context) descriptions of how the universe works.
Hmm... (Score:2)
And with all the wires and pieces making up that machine... what are the odds that there was one tiny little mistake somewhere in the assembly? Or is it made redundant, so that if a part fuck up, it doesn't matter? I mean, a little spark at the wrong place in these wires and...
policy for protection from copper thieves (Score:2)
it looks like they have a couple strands of copper wire here and there which is ripe for the picking. We've had thieves taking copper water pipes, ground strapping and rods, and even had a few electrocuted while attempting to take live power lines.
seriously, those pics looked amazing.
LoB
LHC and Black Holes (Score:2)
I wanted to try and find (Score:3, Funny)
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That's because the real name is lake Leman, not Geneva, dont know why english folks use the Geneva town name for the lake
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You just reminded me of an LHC fact my professor told me a year or so ago: when lake geneva is particularly full, the *country* bends enough that CERN have to take it into account. It's just that sensitive.
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Yep, I've heard that the power in the ring fluctuate because of moon attraction..
Imagine:
Boss> Ok, we have weird results from time to time, your mission is to find the cause.
[month laters]
Engineer> Eureka, I've found that it's moon attraction which change the ring's length so it has an impact on on our measurements!
Boss> What took you so long?
Engineer> *Argh* [die of an heart attack]
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The "Time Projection Chamber" (Score:2)
Re:The "Time Projection Chamber" (Score:4, Funny)
Truely inspiring (Score:2)
I was recently lucky enough to have two tours of the CMS experiment, once on the open day and a second private tour a couple of weeks later. I can honestly say that I felt humbled standing next to it.
I am no stranger to technology, I work as a sysadmin in a large, world class data center. But this thing is something else. To think that a team made up of people from all over the world can accomplish something like this when they put their minds to it.
And the purpose of it? Not to make weapons or money, b
CERN joke (Score:2)
A guy I know who works on one of the experiments told me a joke they have. Apparently there is more than a little rivalry between the Atlas and CMS teams. I asked him what CMS stands for, he told me - When you go and look at it you See A Mess :)
CMS Photo (Score:2)
When I saw the photo of the CMS (first one) I figured that some salesman at Monster Cable must have wet himself.
Are we sure (Score:2)
this thing is being build to collide hadrons?
Just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if the first initialization command goes something like:
"Commence Primary Ignition"
Half-life? No wonder I feel at home (Score:2)
From the page:
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Naw, it's gonna be filled with black holes.
THE END IS NIGH! REPENT!!!
Not quite... (Score:3, Interesting)
According to Wikipedia, 95% confidence interval is 114 to 140 GeV/c2.
That is if you fit it to the Standard Model. Since we have no idea if the SM holds to LHC energies you cannot really believe that as a real bound. In fact, if we measure the Higgs at 200GeV/c2 my guess is that we'd revisit some of the input measurements and find that the result is probably not as inconsistent as we originally thought i.e. take these limits with a LARGE grain of salt, they depend on a lot of different, complex measurements all being correct.
What is far more certain is that we have to see
Is it sad I saw this coming before I clicked? (Score:2)
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I realize that this is probably a rather retarded question but that doesn't mean it won't be so but...
Will there be a military presense there or armed forces when they turn that bugger on the first time?
Run away? (Score:2)
Why? Where?
If they, when they turn it on, create anything that can at least significantly damage The WorldTM - unless you have a personal space faring escape pod [theonion.com] LHC is going to get you.
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Whitespace is one of the technologies it would seem.
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From the lhcdefense.org site - "61% of over 250,000 participants in an AOL survey say that operating the LHC is not worth the risk"
Yes, we must end all science until at least 51% of all AOL users agree that it is safe.
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http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/content/511382 [www.zdf.de]
It's an episode from the german(-language) "Abenteuer Wissen" pop-sci show. The whole episode is about LHC.
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What does the Higgs boson have to do with the singularity? Unless it gives us better computers, it does absolutely nothing for the singularity.
Yeah, that's right. I asked a question and then answered it right away.
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Well, if it does happen I expect you to come back to this thread and say you're sorry.
*nods*
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God damn...wouldn't want a spark lighting up in that mess.
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Let's review the messed-up logic:
cyclic illogic #2
2A) Because input stimuli in the LHC happen in nature all of the time, the LHC is perfectly safe.
versus
2B) We have spent billions of Euros on this thing, because we have never observed the outcomes of the LHC in nature.
1A and 1B cannot both be true. 2A and 2B cannot both be true.
Your cyclic illogic has a fatal flaw. Just because we know these things happen in nature all the time doesn't mean we can easily study them. However, we know they happen, the Earth has survived 4.5by of them, and we're not dead yet. Ergo, they can't be too dangerous.
Mother Nature does hit the Earth with collisions of LHC energies on up all the time and has been doing so since the beginning. Although we know this because we can see the results with cosmic ray experiments, they are unusual enough that we