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2008 Mozilla Summit Affected By Rock Slide

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the even-nature-says-firefox-rocks dept.

Mozilla 84

An anonymous reader writes "The recently concluded 2008 Mozilla Summit, held in Whistler, Canada, was impacted by a rock slide that cut off the main highway between Whistler and Vancouver, where most attendees planned to depart via airplane. In true open-source fashion, summit attendees collaborated on a solution, opening a Bugzilla bug (severity: "blocker"), posting crash dumps, and proposing solutions, including chartering a flight (which would land first in TRUNK, then BRANCH). Eventually, attendees settled on a workaround which seems to have been successful. For next year's summit, organizers might want to consider a location with more redundancy."

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Whistler? (4, Funny)

segedunum (883035) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448131)

Wasn't that where some Microsoft people used to meet, and wasn't that a codename of a version of Windows?

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

*Strokes chin in style of Dr. Evil*

Re:Whistler? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448301)

Not only, Whistler is a popular destination for Mr. Gates -- the codename 'Longhorn' is also the name of the Longhorn Bar/Pub, one of Bills favorite places to hang out in Whistler. Windows Media Center's 2003/2004 were named after 2 popular skiing areas on Whistler mountain (Harmony Bowl and Symphony Bowl). Windows 7 was originally named "Blackcomb" the sister ski hill beside Whistler.

Yeap, Bill secretly loves us Canadians more...

Re:Whistler? (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448639)

Well, i'd like to believe that too, and understandably aswell (lived in B.C. most of his life).

If you tallied the list [wikipedia.org] there are far more USA names, or even tropical ones (and minerals, animals, gases, etc), than Canadian/BC ones...

Re:Whistler? (2, Funny)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449871)

the codename 'Longhorn' is also the name of the Longhorn Bar/Pub, one of Bills favorite places to hang out in Whistler.

I guess that proves it, MS really was drunk when they coded Vista.

Re:Whistler? (3, Funny)

JSund (1268594) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450749)

So you're saying they repeated the same mistake [xkcd.com] they did with ME?

Re:Whistler? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24451311)

So they name their virus filled operating system after a couple of places in Canda. Either they're trying to say that these places are filled with viruses or they're trying to make it look like Windows has none.

Re:Whistler? (4, Funny)

i kan reed (749298) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448321)

Sources report seeing a high velocity chair strike the mountainside moments before the conference.

Re:Whistler? (2, Funny)

mattpm (1135875) | more than 6 years ago | (#24451655)

"DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS" declared the suspect as he retreated back into the woods.

Re:Whistler? (1)

supernova_hq (1014429) | more than 6 years ago | (#24454921)

God I hope our resident bigfoot got him.
Note: Resident of lower mainland B.C.

Re:Whistler? (2, Informative)

Jager Dave (1238106) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449059)

"Windows XP" was codenamed "Whistler" during it's development and Beta testing....Hopefully that NDA I signed has long since expired. ;)

We are confident to say... (4, Funny)

TuringTest (533084) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448141)

Mozilla Summit rocks!

Re:We are confident to say... (5, Funny)

JustOK (667959) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450055)

yah, but how many attendees got stoned?

frostiness pistory (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448143)

Yay I got it

Natural disaster.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448191)

...or an attack from Microsoft's ultra high tech assault geek ninja squad, aimed at derailing the conference?

I think any sane person already knows the answer.

Re:Natural disaster.. (1)

Timosch (1212482) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448797)

Propably Microsoft Black Ops. Every User Friendly reader knows that they're evil...

bah (5, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448197)

if this a TRUE bugzilla ticket, it would be closed ("I'm not blocked in") or ignored for years.

Re:bah (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448677)

All open source bug trackers are like that. I've had a bug closed INVALID against Apache Tomcat because, even though it broke Internet Explorer support, it was needed to work around a bug in some other browser. No one could remember what other browser, but hey, who cares about supporting Internet Explorer?

My favorite "dumb bug close reason" though has to be a bug I filed against Java's AWT about an easily reproducible VM crash under Windows. Sun closed it immediately as WORKSFORME because they couldn't reproduce it under Solaris.

My favorite "dumb Mozilla bug close" (to move ontopic-ish) was some bug where the reporter originally reported it via a comment on another bug. He was then told to file it as a new bug since, while related, it wasn't that bug. So he did, and this new bug was then immediately closed as a duplicate of the original bug.

All of the bugs I've submitted to Mozilla are invariable closed as duplicates. Generally this isn't because I haven't already looked for the bug, but because I have and failed to locate it through Bugzilla's crappy search. One time this was because they had some very, very generic bug that was basically "feature X doesn't work" and all bugs related to it were duplicates.

My general experience with bug reporting is not to bother. It's just not worth it.

(Posted anonymously because I can't remember any of the actual facts. So take this as a meaningless rant. YMMV and all that.)

Re:bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24451715)

agreed, the mozilla teams responses to some pretty major problems would get people fired in a development environment where people are held accountable and jobs are on the line.

    Biggest problem with opensource... if your paycheck isn't in jeopardy you do shitty work or hide behind the 'well it's free' whenever anything gets a little difficult or you aren't being 'appreciated enough'.

posted anonymously because no one will ever even read this because it'll be modded into oblivion.

Bugzilla search engine and duplicates (1)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 6 years ago | (#24455339)

All of the bugs I've submitted to Mozilla are invariable closed as duplicates. Generally this isn't because I haven't already looked for the bug, but because I have and failed to locate it through Bugzilla's crappy search.

I see this as a part of the search functionality. The words you would use to describe a bug don't match the previous reported ones. So by reporting a bug and getting it marked as dupe, the following happens:
- The person who marks it as a duplicate doesn't have much work, since he/she already knows "Oh yeah, that is that bug".
- You then have the right bug that you can post on and possibly help out on.
- The search engine is getting better, because you added new words for describing the bug. Others may find the bug using your words now.

Re:bah (3, Funny)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449209)

They should be taking this much more seriously. Filing bogus bug reports will only send the Mozilla brand down a slippery slope.

- RG>

WONTFIX (5, Funny)

Jay L (74152) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449725)

I guess you missed comment #35: [mozilla.org]

Since this bug effects only a small portion of Firefox users, proposing this as
WONTFIX.

Perhaps interested parties can create an extension?

Robert Accettura wins that bug.

Haeh? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448205)

The Article summary sounds more like the sumitter was hit by a rock slide on his head..

Interesting Vista's (5, Funny)

Fishead (658061) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448265)

That highway is quite spectacular, with some interesting vista's along the way. Unfortunately, some of those vista's were poorly designed. The foundation of this particular one was unstable from the beginning, and looks to have crashed Mozilla. Personally, I think they should do away with the vista's and focus on stability and long term viability.

oh sure (4, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450027)

Typical slashbot; faced with massive memory leaks and crashes in Mozilla, you find a way to blame Vista.

Re:Interesting Vista's (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24450123)

Yeah, like some of those vistas had superfluous apostrophes that caused them to be unstable.

Re:Interesting Vista's (3, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 6 years ago | (#24453993)

That highway is quite spectacular, with some interesting vista's along the way. Unfortunately, some of those vista's were poorly designed. The foundation of this particular one was unstable from the beginning, and looks to have crashed Mozilla. Personally, I think they should do away with the vista's and focus on stability and long term viability.

You forgot the apostrophe in "look's".

Remember folk's: every plural word require's an apostrophe.
 

Really peeps... (4, Funny)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448293)

This isn't something you want women to read :)

Proof that god (0, Flamebait)

n1_111 (597775) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448313)

hates open source freetards

WON'T FIX (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448335)

n/t

maybe if they'd looked more closely (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448343)

they would've seen, high in the mountains, a group of rogue engineers from the MSIE team playing with "Acme TNT" and sticking their thumbs in their ears.

MLM (5, Funny)

iamapizza (1312801) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448353)

Couldn't they just use Microsoft LiveMeeting to hold their summit?

I should probably hide right now.

Sorry.

Re:MLM (2, Informative)

alexandreracine (859693) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450047)

Usually people use the duck "tag"... like this (duck)

Re:MLM (2, Funny)

shish (588640) | more than 6 years ago | (#24451371)

like this (duck)

Or this:

*quack* >o

Winter Olympic 2010 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448373)

That's the same highway to the 2010 Winter Olympics. It's a freaking deathtrap. Stay away!

Re:Winter Olympic 2010 (2, Informative)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448513)

They have been twinning most of the highway between Vancouver and Whistler in preparation for the Olympics. Before the twinning, yes, it was a death trap. Very twisty... just the sort of road a good for an evening motorcycle ride from downtown Van to Squamish (~50km), a coffee at Starbucks, and back... hoping to avoid the slow moving cages on the road. The view is AMAZING as half the trip between Vancouver and Whistler (i.e. up to Squamish, where there is a shear 2000 foot rock climbing face) is along the Howe Sound... the road is all on cliffs over the water. A few places where they have twinned the road is a very high speed twisty race track that will generate a lot of revenue for the province by way of radar detector. But it will no longer be the death trap that it was. Most of those were cars hitting head on, on the very, very twisty corners on the cliff faces.

Re:Winter Olympic 2010 (1)

thewils (463314) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448927)

I beg to differ. The road, whilst somewhat twisty, managed to keep your attention all the time. It's reputation also kept some of the poorer drivers away, and the altogether worst accident happened just north of Squamish at the centre of a loooong straight.

The stretch through Lion's Bay was twinned after the 1991 slide, but hastily reverted to single track after many accidents that happened right at the end of the twinning where speeding drivers had to merge back into traffic on a curve. I think the work done will decrease the frequency of accidents, but those that happen will be more severe including more fatalities. The new sections are already becoming a racetrack. Time will tell, in any event.

Re:Winter Olympic 2010 (1)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449007)

For cars the danger will go down... for motorcyclists it might go up... that is why I said race track in my post. I know a guy who got a ticket for doing 200+ km/hr. He got caught not because of high performance police vehicles (they actually passed a ghosted police mini van) but because after the new four lane high speed twisty he stopped because his buddy on another bike wanted to adjust his helmet. A police plane who actually clocked them let the minivan know they were stopped. Those are the guys who will die... but the road will be safer over all I think.

I drove that highway daily (1)

Silent Node (54344) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450369)

Yep, a lot of idiots on that highway. I did Squamish to Whistler as a daily commute this winter. The thing is its not that bad a highway, it's the drivers on it that are the problem. They could solve most of the winter problems if they just had a vehicle check at Horseshoe Bay where they prevented vehicles without true snow tires (not "all season", but REAL snow tires) from carrying on.

To rant further, city drivers typically don't know how to pass safely in the mountains. The most common mistake I see is the tailgate-hoping-to-pass-then-pull-out-in-a-short-passing-area-and-punch-the-gas move. A driver who knows what he/she is doing gives a couple car lengths so that they can see the passing area coming up, and accelerates while still following in the lane. That way when you pull out you are already traveling faster than the vehicle you are wanting to pass, and you don't have to try to accelerate (with your crappy all season tires) after driving through snow into the oncoming/passing lane.

OK, so that bit of ranting is done. The real thing is that people should just chill out. Know how long the drive takes, and just drive at the speed of the traffic.

And for the record, while the Sea To Sky is a beautiful drive, Duffy Lake road is IMHO much more interesting. Part of that may be due to the fact that you hardly see a soul on it most times.

(Note: poster drives a 1982 GMC doomsday truck. 4x4, studded tires, and the only electronic thing in it is a crappy second hand CD player.)

FFS sometimes a geek joke session goes wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448415)

In true open-source fashion, summit attendees collaborated on a solution, opening a Bugzilla bug (severity: "blocker"), posting crash dumps, and proposing solutions, including chartering a flight (which would land first in TRUNK, then BRANCH).

The rest went to the pub and got laid, then handed in their nerd membership cards.

Bill 2 remove fed crim penalties for marijuana! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448421)

Rock Slide, oh no, this news is so important it'll be remembered forever!

Why does Slashdot run stupid shit like this and spam shit from Ronald Pimplebottom but ignores cannabis news?

Too bad Slashdot didn't post the submission I made for this news item:

"Rep. Barney Frank -- shown here at a July 30 press conference with MPP's Rob Kampia -- has introduced a bill to remove federal criminal penalties for small marijuana violations. Take a minute to urge your member of Congress to support this commonsense bill now."

Now that's something worth passing! A lot of geeks smoke cannabis, I'm sure this news item would be interesting to a lot of geeks, but Slashdot passed on the news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo78L3ZFGKk [youtube.com]
https://secure2.convio.net/mpp/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&page=UserAction&id=177 [convio.net]

Other items of interest:

http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/profiles-in-marijuana-reform-milton-friedman-part-1/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/profiles-in-marijuana-reform-milton-friedman-part-2/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/profiles-in-marijuana-reform-rick-steves/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/profiles-in-marijuana-reform-john-newmeyer/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/the-human-cost-of-marijuana-prohibition-part-2/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/the-human-cost-of-marijuana-prohibition-part-1/ [mpp.org]
http://tv.mpp.org/shorts/profiles-in-marijuana-reform-jim-hightower/ [mpp.org]

Now this is more interesting and far reaching news than some rock slide or spam article! I urge interested individuals to resubmit this story again and again until it gets posted on the front page of Slashdot.

Re:Bill 2 remove fed crim penalties for marijuana! (1)

HardCase (14757) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448459)

Now that's something worth passing! A lot of geeks smoke cannabis, I'm sure this news item would be interesting to a lot of geeks, but Slashdot passed on the news:

This is news for nerds.

Dork: Social reject
Nerd: Socially inept
Geek: Obsessed with crap

Take it do Digg. Or, if you can write a snappy headline, Fark.

Re:Bill 2 remove fed crim penalties for marijuana! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448525)

If you had any sense you would have linked your firehose submission so if anyone who didn't just pass your story on grounds of it being OFF TOPIC,who actually paid your attention grab ploy some attention, could consider voting it up.

Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (5, Interesting)

Freshly Exhumed (105597) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448437)

Many events during the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics will be held in Whistler.

Now we are seeing why people are very nervous about the idea that the one and only direct connecting highway connecting Vancouver and Whistler does not have acceptable uptime, security, or redundancy. The Pemberton-Lilloet-Hope-Vancouver workaround is hopelessly time consuming.

There is a train route between Whistler and Vancouver but it is also vulnerable for most of the same reasons.

The government sold the IOC on the Vancouver-Whistler idea by promising to throw millions of dollars of upgrading at that highway, and after a few years of work already underway we get this giant dump file.

Are we being set up for a snowcrash?

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448461)

There is an alternate route, it is a bit longer, but still reasonable.

To reach Whistler from Vancouver, drivers will have a long detour east on the Trans-Canada Highway to Lytton, then north on Highway 12 to Lillooet, and then south on Highway 99 through Pemberton to Whistler.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

Freshly Exhumed (105597) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448519)

What you said is already mentioned in the original article with a link - its referred to by the Mozilla folks as the "workaround" and there is even a map.

As I mentioned, it is hopelessly time consuming.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448621)

It's not that bad - unless you're an impatient prick. If you're in that much of a hurry then take your floatplane.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (2, Interesting)

maglor_83 (856254) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448769)

It changes from a 125km drive to a 450km drive. That's pretty bad.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24449775)

Have you ever experienced a flight delay? Typically, they are several hours. This workaround delays your trip by about 4 hours. It's not really all that bad.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

multisync (218450) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449839)

It changes from a 125km drive to a 450km drive. That's pretty bad.

Especially considering a lot of people will be staying in the Greater Vancouver area and commuting to and from Whistler to attend events. I don't think there is enough hotel space in Whistler to accommodate everyone attending events there.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448745)

As I mentioned, it is hopelessly time consuming

Well, that's a workaround usually is - a method that allows the help ticket to be closed, often accompanied by an empty promise that "This needs to be looked into for the next major release."

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (5, Informative)

qdaku (729578) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448707)

This is actually what I do for a living --assess the stability of rock slopes. Those guys in vests you see going in before anyone else does, that's me. Though I did not work on this particular case and I usually look at larger scale failures in open pit mines.

In all honesty, they've done what they can. There is no way of 100% securing that highway, or frankly any mountainous highway in difficult terrain. The highway is as safe as reasonably achievable and is inherited from the 60's when our understanding of geomaterials was significantly less than what it is now. Would a tunnel in places be better now? Probably. But it comes down to money and what people are willing to pay. Quoted 3-4 billion for a new route and you can be damn sure there would be budget overruns. It's one of those assumed risks for living in an area with high natural hazard risks.

Hey, the big earthquake that is supposed to be hitting Vancouver any day now could happen during the Olympics. Hell, one could hit china. The world isn't a 100% thing as much as we think we can understand it and it's very true in natural rock slopes where you are dealing with limited data (strength, joint network, etc) of a highly variable system (properties can be difficult to impossible to measure, vary wildly, and have an insane amount of scale effects). You can get the intact strength of rock out of UCS/triaxial tests, you can get the shear strength along discontinuities. Extrapolating that to the entire slope for the complex interaction of sliding surfaces (joints, where you have a guess of what's there but you don't know 100% because it's buried), block movement/crushing/aspherity removal, natrual processes (weathering, frost jacking, tree roots, animal burrowing, strain softening, etc) is difficult and not 100%

If you don't want to have to deal with road closures due to the fact you live somewhere gorgeous in the mountains and have to drive on a road where there IS a risk of rock falls --tough, go live in the Prairies.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24449429)

Crap. You have governments spending multiples more patrolling the Great Lakes to thwart terrorist invasion from Canada, incomprehensibly massive police bureaucracies to stop marijuana use, omnipresent specious airport security, global communications surveillance, but 'just say no' to a few million for dynamiting and clearing a few kilometers of unstable rock faces? Solid gold BS.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

KGIII (973947) | more than 6 years ago | (#24451029)

Mmm... Canadian Bacon.

RCMP Officer at Headquarters: Welcome to Canada.
Boomer: Hold it right there, Canuck!
RCMP Officer at Headquarters: Who are you?
Boomer: I'm your worst nightmare. I'm a citizen with a constitutional right to bear arms!

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (2, Insightful)

belmolis (702863) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449921)

I don't think that anyone is criticizing the engineers. The problem is (a) that the Olympics are going to be held in such a location and (b) that the local organizing committee persuaded the IOC that it would be okay because they would either improve Hwy 99 or build a new road in a different location. The latter was ruled out by both cost and environmental considerations, so what they've done is make relatively minor improvements to Hwy 99, which don't really change things.

I have driven that road many times and frankly, the risk of rockfall is not the major problem. The major problem are the idiot drivers who go too fast, slide over the centerline on curves, don't have proper snow tires in the winter, etc. There are lots of accidents on that stretch of Hwy 99, of which hardly any are due to rockslides. They are almost always due to poor driving.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

david.emery (127135) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450285)

IANAG (I Am Not A Geologist), but I'm a bit surprised by where this slide occurred. When I heard about 'rockslide blocking the road to Whistler', I was expecting something north of Squamish, particularly along the river valley (Cheakamus?) that's bordered by the lava flows from Garibaldi mountain. Seeing this along Howe Sound was a bit of a surprise.

If someone knows the type of rock that was in that slide, could you post that info? I guess it's not the granite that makes up the Chief...

dave (lived in N. Delta 95-97 and used to drive to Whistler a lot in the summer, just because we liked the trip...)

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

qdaku (729578) | more than 6 years ago | (#24458581)

Not sure.... but it is in the same stretch where a smaller rock fall (half size? maybe) came down and killed some folks sometime in the sixties. It definitely looks structurally controlled so even if it was the granite... doesn't matter if it's just big heavy blocks sliding on a rough surface (think highschool physics class). Friction angles on those things can range quite heavily (15-40?) depending on the roughness, undulation, infilling (something low friction like chlorite..). I'll look into it, harass my supervisors who are working it.

I'll take my chances... (1)

Jazz-Masta (240659) | more than 6 years ago | (#24456121)

...with the rock slide instead of what happens in the prairies [google.com] .

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (2, Informative)

thewils (463314) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448767)

Well, the athletes and officials will all be taken care of - helicopters, planes, boats etc.

But the paying public will basically be told to sexually go elsewhere. This grants the IOC it's wish of having a games where the public paid for, but cannot get to (and hence disrupt) any of the events. I'm sure the security forces are watching this one with interest.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

Synthaxx (1138473) | more than 6 years ago | (#24452365)

...will basically be told to sexually go elsewhere...

I don't think that word means what you think it means. Then again, this is slashdot.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24453649)

I think he was using it as a pseudo-polite way of saying "F*** off"...

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24448963)

They hadn't yet worked on this part of the highway which had the slide so it isn't quite as bad as you make it sound.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449567)

promising to throw millions of dollars of upgrading at that highway

At last count, over $600 million. By the time they are done, with cost over runs and what not else, figure on over $1 billion. What a frickin' waste of hard earned tax payer money.

Re:Olympics in 2010 will be vulnerable (2, Funny)

mseidl (828824) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450727)

No redundancy...

Are you suggesting they create another Whistler and run them in Raid 1? Or 4 whistlers in Raid 5?

Lesson learned... (1)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448449)

Never hold any type of important meeting in a city that has the same name as a Microsoft codename! (Windows Whistler = Windows XP)!

workaround (1)

Smivs (1197859) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448465)

Someone should have come up with a workaround to overcome the bugs in this non standards-compliant rockface.

It was a great summit, nevertheless (3, Interesting)

zzxc (635106) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448649)

Even through the bear encounter [rumblingedge.com] , rock slide, power outage [fredericiana.com] , and overnight bus trips to the airport, the organizers (especially Dan Portillo) made everything happen as smoothly as it could. Everyone had a great time, and (most) of the almost 400 attendees made their flights home. There was even a "Mozilla Camp" at the Vancouver airport where everyone was waiting for hours. Pictures of the summit are being aggregated on summit.mozilla.org [mozilla.org] . We all learned a lot and met lots of people, and overall the summit was a huge success.

And a Wedding Was Amost Missed (2, Interesting)

PineHall (206441) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450825)

Neil Deakin almost missed his own wedding [xulplanet.com] because of the rock slide. He had to take a float plane to get out of there.

God hates open source (1)

Pincus (744497) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448665)

All hail Pope Gates and Cardinal Ballmer.

I always HAVE to think of everything? (2, Funny)

alexborges (313924) | more than 6 years ago | (#24448787)

Bring our the lizzard, ask it to move the rocks.

Sheesh. Such smart people didnt think of THAT?

More fun Summit facts (1)

Otik2 (317009) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449031)

Don't forget the other fun facts of the summit.

The ever-present bear menace: http://www.rumblingedge.com/2008/07/29/bear-with-me-while-you-sleep-at-whistler/ [rumblingedge.com] .
The power in the hotel going out for half a day: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448604#c88 [mozilla.org] .

Re:More fun Summit facts (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449345)

Bears and mountains are why people go to places like Whistler.

If you want no rock slides, no bears and reliable power, Vancouver has a nice selection of conference venues, and even some mountains. Of course, you'll have to deal with the traffic then.

Didn't even see them (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449035)

I didn't even see them or know they were there. I use a Greasemonkey script to automatically filter out rockslides.

asshole nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24449131)

that was so fucking stupid that I really don't know why it was even posted. like a bunch of nerd assholes relating life to the knights of nee and getting a hard on because the average person doesn't know what the fuck they were talkin' about.

geeeeeee (1)

tHeSiD (805906) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449175)

ultimate geekdom!

Evil plot (1)

CaptSaltyJack (1275472) | more than 6 years ago | (#24449405)

Immediately after the rock slide, several figures were seen at the top of the mountain, cackling evilly. They wore shirts with a strange blue lowercase "e" on them.

rock slide (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24450287)

stupid aerodactyls, always messing everything up

Workaround (1)

BinBoy (164798) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450293)

If they travel in the opposite direction of the rock slide, they will eventually arrive at the other side.

Bugzilla should have mod points (1)

edsousa (1201831) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450805)

That bug is one of the best collections of jokes I've ever found, most of them deserved +5 Funny.
I guess I'm spending too much time here on /.

They could have installed Windows (1)

Master of Transhuman (597628) | more than 6 years ago | (#24450935)

Then all they would have had to do is wait for Tuesday.

Natural Disaster attacks Mozilla (1)

CobaltBlueDW (899284) | more than 6 years ago | (#24451367)

Bill claims godliness.

That was no rock slide (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 6 years ago | (#24451619)

It was CANADIAN GODZILLA, fighting his longtime enemy Mozilla.

Coincidence (1)

Spacejock (727523) | more than 6 years ago | (#24452859)

My parents are staying in Squamish on holiday .. they just hired a boat and sailed straight up the river. (They were offered the round trip showing on that google map, but declined.)

Workaround (1)

Gerhardius (446265) | more than 6 years ago | (#24453453)

The workaround only makes sense to get back to Vancouver itself. Going to the US or the airport one would skip recrossing the river on the Trans Canada.

I was in whistler (1)

AndrewR81 (601345) | more than 6 years ago | (#24455475)

I was at Whistler last week for another conference. I sat in on a few mozilla talks cause I couldn't resist. (Funny how when I asked the official front desk if I could, they told me "No, we fly all these people in, they're private talks" but everyone else I asked was like "Oh yeah no problem go ahead")

Our bus to Vancouver airport was scheduled 8am to make 12pm flights, and it had to be moved to 2am -- and we took the long way around, going from roughly 3 hours to 9 hours. It's actually a really nice scenic route, though it's a bit of a jolt when the sun came up and see us winding along roads meters away from a cliff.

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