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Verizon Denies DSL Because of Subscriber's Name

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the gravel-in-ya-guts-and-the-spit-in-ya-eye dept.

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mikek2 writes "When retired Philadelphia-area doctor and Vietnam veteran Dr. Herman I. Libshitz went to upgrade his dial-up connection to Verizon DSL, he was informed they wouldn't complete the order because his last name contained an expletive. Repeated calls to several levels of management at Verizon failed to resolve the problem, with several managers suggesting he change his last name. It all worked out in the end, after the Philadelphia Enquirer intervened."

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493 comments

Monopoly (5, Insightful)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454633)

Next time someone will claim that monopolies' power over the market does not negate the very mechanism that is supposed to implement the market, refer him to this.

Then punch him in the face.

the name fits here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454681)

It's what the vast majority of Slashdotters are, a bunch of Lib shits.

I wonder how his friend Dr. Moonbat is faring with Verizon.

Re:the name fits here (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454829)

There's nothing inherently liberal or socialist about objecting to monopoly power. Monopolies destroy the market mechanisms vital for capitalism to work.

Re:the name fits here (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454989)

It was not meant as a commentary on the specific content of its parent, it was meant as a commentary on the overall content of Slashdot.

Re:Monopoly (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454717)

Well said, good sir, well said!

Re:Monopoly (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454823)

Like the Libshitz guy who gets punches in his face? LOVESHITS wtf cant jews pick better names? Heh, and they call them self the choosen people, what about the disgraced by God people.

Re:Monopoly (0)

armareum (925270) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454867)

I don't really see why it is monopolies that caused the problem here. It's not as if an operating free market would have meant that this wouldn't have occured.

Re:Monopoly (4, Insightful)

teh moges (875080) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455017)

If they wouldn't let him sign up, he would of gone elsewhere. With a monopoly, this isn't an option.

Re:Monopoly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455065)

Verizon has a monopoly on email addresses?

Re:Monopoly (3, Insightful)

armareum (925270) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455095)

Oh, so you think that it's a failure of the market which caused him this problem? No, it's just a crude obscenity filter on the email address he wanted to use when signing up. A problem related to the Scunthorpe problem. [wikipedia.org]
Yes, monopolies are overall not good, but not everything bad they do is *caused* by them being a monopoly. That's just a stupid position to take.

Obviously.. (0)

scubamage (727538) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454639)

...OP was full ot Libshitz.

Re:Obviously.. (2, Informative)

RDW (41497) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454747)

Good thing he didn't live in Scunthorpe [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Obviously.. (4, Funny)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454775)

Good thing he didn't live in Dildo, Newfoundland Dildo, Newfoundland [wikipedia.org]

Re:Obviously.. (5, Funny)

srjh (1316705) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454791)

Or Fucking [wikipedia.org] , Austria.

Re:Obviously.. (5, Funny)

bhima (46039) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455001)

I don't live all that far from Fucking. It's a tiny, tiny village and they can not afford to replace the signs that get stolen... mostly by tourists from the UK.

So when you go to fucking, please just the pictures of the Fucking Signs and do not steal the fucking signs.

Really.

Re:Obviously.. (4, Funny)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454787)

Good thing he didn't live here [wikipedia.org]

Re:Obviously.. (2, Insightful)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454825)

Meh, you are redundant by perhaps a few seconds. Too bad (although I wish Moderators would double-check time-stamps before downgrading a person's Karma).

Re:Obviously.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454839)

Fixed that for ya (hence AC)

Re:Obviously.. (3, Interesting)

hvm2hvm (1208954) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454929)

He actually posted first. Take a look at the post ID. 24454787 versus 24454791.

Change of name (5, Funny)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454655)

In the end he changed his name to "Harold I. Libshitz" and everything finally went through.

Re:Change of name (1)

Prune (557140) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454907)

I don't get it :?

Re:Change of name (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454983)

I could be wrong, but I think that the joke is that the problem was with is first name, Herman, and not his last name, Libshitz.

I had the same problem! (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454953)

It seems I'm not alone. Hugh J. Farquad esq.

Let me be the first to say... (1)

CaptainNerdCave (982411) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454657)

What the $@%#?

hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454659)

libshitz-0.9.5 - Digestive management architecture

Most famous Lipshitz (5, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454665)

People who have odd names (it seems especially prevalent in the Jewish community) are at a serious disadvantage in the culture that considers the name odd. This is the reason that the most famous Lipshitz ever changed his name to Ralph Lauren.

Re:Most famous Lipshitz (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454767)

What? Surely the most famous Lips(c)hitz is
Rudolf Lipschitz after whom Lipschitz continuity is named. Come on guys lets stick ti "stuff that matters".

By the way it looks like Herman should have kept the "c", if indeed his family did at some time drop it for ease of spelling.

Re:Most famous Lipshitz (2)

me at werk (836328) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455055)

I thought the most famous Lipshitz ever was Dr. Lipshitz [imdb.com] from Rugrats

Wait, what? (5, Funny)

untaken_name (660789) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454669)

So, let me see if I have this straight: Verizon wanted someone to change their last name in order to get DSL, and that person didn't do it??? What, are you going to get a cablemodem or something? Just change your name, already. This is internet connectivity we're talking about here. It's important. It isn't like you haven't been getting libshitz for yoru name all your life, anyway.

Re:Wait, what? (5, Informative)

Standard User 79 (1209050) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454701)

I read the article. They wanted him to change his verizon email address. They were fine with giving him dsl service, etc.. Most likely it was a problem because some programmer hard coded a prof filter in email creation.

Re:Wait, what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454733)

Well.. it's not like programmers run around coding prof filters for all the inputs without someone requesting it specifically..

Re:Wait, what? (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454759)

They could at least try to do it properly [wikipedia.org] , although chances are it was some idiot (probably from marketing) who specified it wrong.

Re:Wait, what? (4, Funny)

untaken_name (660789) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454881)

Very true. However, it's funnier for Verizon to want him to change his last name, so I prefer to believe that version.

Re:Wait, what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454919)

Heh heh

I used to have a multiple word surname. This is impossible in the USA if you want to make use of things like credit cards, a drivers license, online banking etc. Having an unpronouncable name is bad enough, but when your surname and middle names are different on different legal documents, it's a frequent hassle at best, legal trouble at worst.

This Libshitz guy has it easy, all he has to do is change the spelling. Just adapt, change your name and fix the problem for your family for ever.

Re:Wait, what? (1)

YttriumOxide (837412) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455075)

Multiple word surname... like "von Trapp", "de Waal", "Le Blanc", "van der Heijden" and so on?
If those sorts of names really do cause a problem in US legal documents, I can imagine there'd be a LOT of very unhappy people there... Surely with the US background of immigration from many different parts of Europe, these sorts of names can't be all that uncommon can they? I'd think there must be a more sensible solution than changing your name?

1st pun! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454673)

Must have given him the shitz!

Re:1st pun! (1)

odiroot (1331479) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454981)

Shit was so cash!

This has nothing to do with his name.. (3, Informative)

XaXXon (202882) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454675)

It has everything to do with the EMAIL ADDRESS he apparently wasn't willing to change. They wouldn't grant him the address he requested. All he had to do was pick another email address and he would have been fine. I'm sorry, but you are not entitled to any email address you want.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (5, Insightful)

OldManAndTheC++ (723450) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454723)

Oh come on. Don't defend these losers. He asked for an email address based on his name, just like millions of other customers.

It's a perfectly reasonable request, which Verizon denied solely because some arbitrary filter detected a naughty word buried in the address, a word that would only be noticed by someone with a juvenile mindset. The filter is obviously intended to screen out truly nasty phrases, like "verizonisfullofshit@verizon.com", but like most such filters it is crude and inflexible, and unsuited for its purpose.

And to make things worse, no one at Verizon had the authority or inclination to override this zero tolerance policy for the substring "shit". The only choice they gave him, if he wanted DSL, was to select an email address that was not based on his name. Naturally he refused, as would anyone with an ounce of pride in his family name.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454769)

It's a perfectly reasonable request, which Verizon denied solely because some arbitrary filter detected a naughty word buried in the address, a word that would only be noticed by someone with a juvenile mindset.

Well, I would think everybody would notice the bad word. It's in the cultural mindset now. Have you ever noticed that kids love bad words so much because it's forbidden, and it's forbidden only because of the reactions it gets out of adults? If they wouldn't garner such a overreaction most of the time, I'd think they'd be as bland as any other word. Funny, the sway a word can have over people while the synonyms are accepted (which I think was Carlin's point with his famous 11 words routine).

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454849)

That's 7 words...

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (5, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454943)

"bad words"? what are you fucking 5 years old? this whole thing is insane and anyone who defends it needs to be quarantined and watched closely.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (4, Funny)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455063)

Cultural habit, sorry:) Otherwise, I really don't give a shit.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455067)

I had to read the name a few times to notice the shit :)
USamericans are obsessed with shit and other 'bad words' to the level of insanity.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (2, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454861)

If I moved to Israel I would hate to be told that "Michael Smith" sounds like a rude word in the local language and I couldn't use my normal email address.

Jewish people here occasionally have a chuckle at the name of our Friends Of The Zoos [fotz.org.au] society.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454973)

Since your name suggests you're thoroughly un-Jewish, good luck moving to Israel. Their immigration policy is about as blatant as a WHITES ONLY sign on a South African beach.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (5, Funny)

jeremyp (130771) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455009)

The filter is obviously intended to screen out truly nasty phrases, like "verizonisfullofshit@verizon.com"

FFS stop posting my e-mail address on the Internet. Now I'm going to get spammed.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455023)

This drama was brought to us by the very same people who brought the world Verizon math (http://www.verizonmath.com). Is Verizon trying their very best to humiliate themselves at every turn?

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (4, Insightful)

Auckerman (223266) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454727)

They were also giving the reason that he couldn't have an e-mail address with his name in it was because it was offensive. That's not a valid reason to decline an e-mail address based off a person's name and he was quite reasonably offended by that. It's unreasonable to ban an e-mail address based off the clients name merely because you find a few select letters in his name fit a banned word. I know that, you know that, he knew that and now Verizon realizes their mistake.

You can be cut and dry about what went on, but seriously, life shouldn't be that way. If we all looked at and dealt with each other on that level, I think it would be time for me to find another country to live in.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454785)

You're just now starting to look? Sorry bud, the good real estate is already sold. You'll be renting from those who had the sense to look before. Most places royally suck. It makes just as little sense elsewhere. You'll be paying lots and lots of "imposits" they don't call'em taxes, but they have far more of them, and you'll be submitting paperwork far more often for having the right to take a shit or to walk somewhere... or *gasp* try taking the bus while being foreign. The upside is being an English speaker, for the time being, incurs you their mercy. They realize how fucked up the English speaking side of the world really is... the problem, of course, is that they don't notice that shit having been imported into their part of the world also.

Life is good, its fucked up bureaucratic mindsets like these idiots at Verizon that is prevalent through out governing structures. These inflexible "beg me to get your rights abided by, or your service that you pay for fulfilled" type assholes seem attracted to these jobs, while no sane individuals are. Therein lies the issue, schools are such structures, so in time they attract the same type of assholes as the other bureaucracies, ensuring that they raise mostly the same type of assholes. Sure, they turn out sane individuals too, because some of us just don't take well to the programming, but the vast majorities do, so when you see the quietly obedient student in school, who never challenges a rule or bends or breaks one, remember, that will be the mindless aparatchik that will tell you what they CAN'T do for you as A, a paying customer, and B, an honest man or woman who has done nothing wrong and trades on your own name.

That being said, I'm fairly sure this doctor fellow is also doing business on that email address, and people know him because of his unusual name. Put two and two together, this fellow probably gets quite a bit of business because of his rep. That rep is partly based on his name by which people come to know him. To change it now would make him seem like every other mentally emasculated individual that lays claim to the role "man" or "male" but doesn't quite live up to any standard of integrity. Personally I'm glad he, or the enquirer dragged Verizon through the mud. By the same token, I'm not sure why he patronized their service. Speakeasy.net is a MUCH better provider and they reach out and touch his area, and have MUCH better service. Having been a customer while up north, I'd recommend them any day of the week.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

William Ager (1157031) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454731)

While it is true that the summary is very misleading, there is still a problem with the handling of the case. While there could be many legitimate and understandable reasons why someone couldn't have a particular email address, denying an email address of someone's name due to a policy against expletives is astoundingly offensive and inappropriate; in certain cases, it could arguably have legal implications.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455091)

...in certain cases, it could arguably have legal implications.

How? (I'm really curious as to what legal grounds can a case like this have on the court)

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454735)

I'm sorry, but you are not entitled to any email address you want.

Yes you are, read the fucking constitution.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454915)

you first

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (5, Insightful)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454937)

I usually tend to use this angle when it actually applies. If he had already paid for service, they were being scum by denying him a legitimate email and violating THEIR contract. I have a feeling that being Jewish, this fellow would have been educated on the issues of contracts (the Torah seems to be quite specific that contracts are the way things are done, between humans and between them and their god(s), devils, etc). I'm fairly sure it wasn't just dragging them through the mud that did the trick. However, the Constitution has no provisions for "large corporations violating contracts into which they entered voluntarily wanting someone's money but failing in the providing of full service as paid for"... stuff like that. Laws and rules about that precede most national governments, and tend to be grandfathered in, since they work.

This is just your typical bureaucratic monkeys being bureaucratic monkeys, that usually get attracted to bureaucratic jobs (management, government, etc...) and doing exactly what and WHY they are hired. Being bureaucratic monkeys, with just enough firing neurons to be annoying bureaucratic monkeys, but not enough to actually be reasonable men... this is usually why you hear of bureaucratic monkeys, or monkeys obedient to bureaucrats tazering paralized kids 19 times or shooting old ladies full of juice even though they're wheelchair bound. Bureaucratic monkeys are examples of scumbags that would've been aborted (post natal if need be) by any self respecting parent, long before they got to breed more bureaucratic monkeys... until they bred and over bred to the situation we have today.

Again, the Constitution of the USA or for the USA (depending on which one you take an oath to when you get sworn in to your bureaucratic job) has nothing on this issue... this is purely a contract law issue, and that precedes the Constitution by several centuries at the least.

Also, his name containing an expletive can easily be explained as NON expletive, and can be interpreted as such by any lawyer or judge with enough functional brain matter. Why, you ask? Simple. Cultural difference. If a man who is a DOCTOR can carry that name and not change it, you can be fairly sure he has traded on it.

That being said i've seen some screwy names in the past, so while I want to believe this article is bogus, I am unsurprised if it is true. Bureaucratic monkeys make every part of the world miserable, where the locals allow them to infest. Voting has never been a cure. It wasn't when they did it in the name of the king, or the oligarch, or the tyrant (in the greek meaning of word) or the dictator or "the people's party" or any other reason for which bureaucratic monkeys perform their unquestioning duties. People to whom "duty" is a primary prerogative, should concern you, worry you, and scare you. These are the monkeys who shot kids in the back of the head for merely not complying with the new "party" or for their parents being rich (see Che and Cuba literature on this issue). Sure, here they're obeying a different "letter of the law", but its all the same. Monkey see, monkey do. We don't need "less abortions", we need a lot more. They should be looking for bureaucratic monkey genes, but who would be doing the legislating but other bureaucratic monkeys... the sense of survival is strong in the bureaucratic monkeys.

MUD: Thou canst not put this genie back into the bottle. The genie reads a scroll of rules and regulations. Thou art Screwed... royally, and without vaseline.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

johannesg (664142) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454793)

Could you maybe refer to us to the RFC that forbids the use of undesirable words in email addresses? If his name were l@bshitz, I understand why it wouldn't be possible, but this is just political correctness taken to its most silly extreme.

What's next? Should be be forbidden to get a telephone number in his own name? Not being allowed to open a bank account with his name on it? Be refused entry to any English-speaking countries for having a rude name?

Note that the article is just as guilty: they do not want to print the word "shit", asking the guy what they are supposed to print instead...

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454871)

He is more likely in the future to be required by law to have an email address in his own name.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455103)

If his name were l@bshitz, I understand why it wouldn't be possible

"l@bshitz" (quoted string) would be a valid local part, I refer you to RFC2822 section 3.4.1. However, such addresses are unlikely to pass common validation regex's for website registration etc...

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454831)

Yeah why should he have the option of using his last name in his email address like everyone else? The guy is obviously a selfish, uncaring and doesn't care that his surname is now going to scar the life of many young children whose minds were pure before bumping into his email address online.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454971)

his last name is libshitz, it's not really THAT obvious that it contains shit in the name. he wasn't some 15yo trying to take the piss, and frankly i'm astounded this went past a 1st level manager.

the fact that you are trying to defend this makes me think your partly retarded so i'll go easy on your downie ass.

Re:This has nothing to do with his name.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454993)

It has everything to do with the EMAIL ADDRESS he apparently wasn't willing to change.

Next up: Verizon denies peering to China and Korea in response to the flood of "wang" derived email addresses.

Email address (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455031)

He who ties his email address to his access provider is an idiot. The guy should have taken the hint and gotten his email address from a professional email service provider, preferably with a domain in his own name.

Summary and Title are highly misleading (5, Informative)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454689)

They gladly gave him DSL. What they didn't do was allow a username/email address with 'shit' in it and he insisted since that was part of his name. I'm glad he got his way in the end, but he wasn't being denied the service itself.

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (4, Insightful)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454749)

But "Shit" is not normally considered to be a rude word.

I can understand if the name was Cuntington but "shit" is an everyday word (So is "cunt" where I live) and part of someone's name.

I've never understood the whole profanity thing, why would someone want to be offended by a word, you would think people would have better things to do than create reasons to be offended.

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (2, Interesting)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454827)

Some (really stupid) anti-spam systems scan email addresses for rude words. It's likely that their accounts system prevents the creation of email addresses containing these kinds of words, eg because the IT people couldn't be bothered to fix their deployed anti-spam software.

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (4, Funny)

rve (4436) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454945)

My friend mister Koksukhar had no such problems

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455079)

Porn spam often contains the words "fuck" and "cunt" so its easy to see why those words might be used in a primative filter,
I myself have stopped users registering names similar
to "admin", "support", "help" in the past for obvious reasons,
but this user already existed in the system so it should not have been a problem and Verizon staff should have seen that it is legit.

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (1)

shish (588640) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454885)

I can understand if the name was Cuntington but "shit" is an everyday word (So is "cunt" where I live)

I think that says more about where you live than the use of the words...

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (1)

Dan541 (1032000) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455101)

I think that says more about where you live than the use of the words...

I'm a Truck driver in Australia, some of the people I deal with are not what people here would consider civilised.

Re:Summary and Title are highly misleading (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454895)

Boy, do I wish I had mod points. +1 for you, sir.

Change their last name? (1)

19061969 (939279) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454711)

Quoth TFS:"Repeated calls to several levels of management at Verizon failed to resolve the problem, with several managers suggesting he change his last name."

Good idea! He could change it to "Dr Herman Verizon management are cocks"

The arrogance reportedly shown by the managers isn't exactly reasonable. Change a name just to use a poxy DSL service? This must have been in jest.

Re:Change their last name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454803)

Was it change the name, or change the email address?

I seem to recall reading somewhere in TA that they got the ADSL, but the electronic-m address was the problem.
Not that I'm encouraging human rights violations, but sometimes setting up a totally unrelated electronic-m address such as a gmail one is actually a good thing.

Re:Change their last name? (1)

quadrox (1174915) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454841)

Thanks man, I can't stop laughing now because I'm imagining this guy introducing himself to someone:

"Hi, my name is Dr Herman Verizon management are cocks."

*puzzled look on the other guys face*

Tell me about it (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454741)

I can't even get dial up and had to wait until my neighbors had wireless to steal it.

  -- John Fuckinson

WTF? (5, Insightful)

Stanislav_J (947290) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454743)

It has everything to do with the EMAIL ADDRESS he apparently wasn't willing to change. They wouldn't grant him the address he requested. All he had to do was pick another email address and he would have been fine. I'm sorry, but you are not entitled to any email address you want.

Are you serious? Why in the hell should he have to -- IT'S HIS NAME. It's on his birth certificate, his Social Security card, his drivers license. It's probably in the phone book, and on every check he's ever written. And now he can't use his OWN LEGAL NAME that he has had since birth for his e-mail address because it "contains an expletive?" It's not even like he's some anarchistic goofball who somehow managed to legally change his surname to "Shit" in an attempt to be cute or radical -- it's his family name, borne by his ancestors, and it just happens to contain that four-letter sequence in the middle of the name. And, what, he can't use it because somewhere, somehow there might be some handful of insanely moralistic wackos who would be offended by it?

I'm sorry, but this is just about the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in my life. And, given what I've witnessed in my half century on this planet, that's really saying something.

What's in a name? (3, Funny)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454751)

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

- Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare

Of course that quote would have serious humour ramifications with a name like "Libshitz". Shakespeare was however cognizant of the political ramification of mere words and, alas, names. My theory that bad and stupid people primarily get into management positions has once again proven to be correct.

Re:What's in a name? (1)

Oktober Sunset (838224) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455039)

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."

- Romeo and Juliet, by William Shakespeare

What if it was called stinkblossom?

- Bart Simpson

Here we go again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454797)

What's this with systems design and complete idiots at the wheel?

You either end up with some Politically Correct idiot taking decisions that don't make a lot of sense (or are actually deepy insulting - how would you feel if someone starts singling out parts of your name) or with a base design assumption that totally sucks [ncl.ac.uk] or lacks any flexibility.

Sjeez.

Luckily they don't have Verizon in Austria (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454801)

or it could be much worse [boingboing.net] .

What about these names? (3, Insightful)

KH (28388) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454809)

Does Verizon also refuse email addresses to those who have such last names like: Takeshita, Fukuoka (common Japanese names), Dikshit (common Indian name). There must be more unfortunate names.

Re:What about these names? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24454913)

First that pops up (pun not intended) is Dick Cheney. And the second one is the owner of a small electronics-shop in Leiden, the Netherland, who goes by the name Dik Kok. (http://www.kokonderdelen.com/)

Sorry to say: typical American (2, Insightful)

Teun (17872) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454813)

Indeed a sorry preoccupation you guys in the USofA have.

Nearly any dickhead can (without serious checks on mental health etc) have guns but the moment someone has a misunderstood name it becomes a management issue.

I know many US ISP's don't allow hosting your own (mail)server at home, what would Verizon have done in case the man registered iamaturd.com (still free!) and pointed libshitz@iamaturd.com to his own server on a Verizon line?

Well at least someone finally had the good taste to not levy a fine for Janet Jackson's titty incident and now the name of Libshitz can be used on Verizon, there is hope!

Oh, and in a couple of months please go out and vote!

Re:Sorry to say: typical American (-1, Troll)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454931)

For someone who hates America so much, you certainly have a keen interest in the subject. You'd think that a sophisticated European would simply look down his nose and refuse to have anything to do with such vulgar people. More to the point, an entirely sophisticated person would not immediately jump on a tenuous connection between an email profanity filter and the whole of America being broken. It's as if you sit around and think about it all day and talk about it every chance you get, no matter how distant the current topic is.

Re:Sorry to say: typical American (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455109)

I don't know why you think I hate America.

As a matter of fact I really like the place and it's people.

And therefore I feel I can and have to speak my mind.

I feel going by the examples I gave things do go wrong, there is a preoccupation with the trivial, be it on a corporate level like the Verizon filter or more public level in the Janet Jackson case.

The example I gave with the very great freedom regarding fire arms has relevance, this policy is based on the cherished concept that People have their own responsibility in handling them.

But the moment something trivial as a naughty word or picture comes around the community needs protection!

We obviously do not agree on what is trivial or important.

Ouch! (5, Informative)

beadfulthings (975812) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454817)

The "National Enquirer" is a notorious scandal sheet.

The "Philadelphia Inquirer" is a respectable daily newspaper.

I just felt the need to point that out.

not the National Enquirer... (3, Informative)

cigaretteroutine (1233782) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454819)

Speaking of names that have bad connotations... plz fix our newspaper's name to its correct spelling of Philadelphia INquirer rather then ENquirer. (we have our many flaws here, but our newspaper is at least mildly legitimate)

Headline/summary/article mismatch (5, Insightful)

pedrop357 (681672) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454851)

Pointing out the obvious:
The headline and summary aren't really accurate to the linked article.

Has anyone considered the impact this sort of thing has on Slashdot's credibility?

Maybe I'm looking at it through rose colored glasses, but I used to like reading through all the summaries and linked articles on Slashdot. Now it seems like in the last 8-12 months, more and more headlines and their accompanying sumamries are deliberately misleading and inflammatory. I skim the RSS headlines and have found myself assuming that any headline that says "Microsft does X", "Comcast now doing Y", "Verizon did Z" etc. is probably off the mark and just nother boy crying wolf. It seems that I'm right about hald the time; which is about 45% more then I should be.

Most of these "inaccuracies" seem to pander to various anti-insert-company-here sentiments - ie., Verizon has been shown to have done a bunch of shady shit regarding spying or Comcast with it's throttling/filtering/P2P blocking or whatever, so now they do something stupid and it gets twisted into something much larger and more sinister.

Yes, Verizon is moronic for not allowing customer serivce people a little latitude or for having simplistic filtering, but nowhere did I read they denied DSL. They did deny an email address though. Verizon should also probably work on dealing with people-telling someone to misspell their name in order to avoid some stupid email address name filter misses the point. BUT, everything I read suggests that he would have been ok with an email address like DrHermanIL@XXX; not that he should he have to do that though.

If Slashdot's motto was something like "It's not news, it's Slashdot", I'd make a little one line post about how the headline and linked article disagree. But with a motto of "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters", I'd expect accuracy and a little less hysteria and/or pandering.

Scunthorpe (2, Funny)

cliveholloway (132299) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454853)

Coincidentally, nobody in the town of Scunthorpe has Verizon service either. Reps are apparently mystified...

Ahh memories... (2, Funny)

sleeponthemic (1253494) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454855)

I used to amuse myself by ordering free stuff from the internet using abusive names. It was great receiving hand written postal pickup notices for Peter Cuntbridge.. I could see the turmoil the employee had clearly suffered in writing that surname. The slight "squiggle" at the un to cloud the perception just in case ole Pete's name had been mistaken.

Jason Vomit has been receiving his victoria's secret catalogues for quite some time.

Mario Luigo Bowserpeach entered the readers digest sweepstakes. Believe it or not, he has in his possession a genuine cheque for 1 million dollars*

I guess they might want traceability in this particular instance but in general, from working in a mailing house and my exploits of immaturity I think it's pretty clear that businesses mostly have a "whatever" attitude to this sort of thing.

*This is not a real cheque.

I had a company website blocked for the same thing (4, Funny)

Lord Byron II (671689) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454939)

Back in the early days of the WWW, I was doing IT for a small business whose name was RTS Executive Services. Their phone number was 1-800-RTS-EXEC, so they wanted their website to match: www.rtsexec.com, but that lead to a "sex" in the middle of the domain name and I can't tell you the number of customers we had who couldn't access the website because the blocking software they installed on their computers to stop their kids from accessing porn had determined that our website must be porn too.

I can't get Verizon either! (1)

Legion_SB (1300215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454959)

Thanks for fighting the good fight, sir!

Sincerely, Dr. Hancock

Verizon in the UK (0, Redundant)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 5 years ago | (#24454979)

Good thing Verizon hasn't expanded its monopoly across the pond to the UK yet, else the entire town of Scunthrope [google.com] would be blocked from the net. For the children's sake, of course!

You Americans and your "morals" (4, Funny)

Cathoderoytube (1088737) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455005)

Here's a personal story about profanity and a content company... My user name for my cable account is an expletive describing my feelings about the cable company. What's interesting though, is that apparently I'm not the only one who feels this way about the company, since 'fuckyourogers' has been taken and I've had to add numbers on the end of it.
What's even MORE interesting though have been my attempts to get technical support on my account. But during my somewhat angry registration process I didn't hit any snags where the cable company thought my username was inappropriate.

Funny how life works...

Re:You Americans and your "morals" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455037)

Fuck you for thinking an entire nation is represented by a few idiots at an ISP.

the next library? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455019)

anyone see this as being the next library dependency for some weird linux program soon

i can definitely see a ./configure error out with something like
ERROR: UNMATCHED DEPENDENCIES -- libshitz

Uh oh (1)

barnyjr (1259608) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455057)

Dear Verizon,

Does this mean I'm out of luck then?

Sincerely,

Ernest K. Fuckwad

Bad move. (1)

ericvids (227598) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455081)

I think the guy *shouldn't* have gone through the trouble and just got another e-mail address.

Reason? He may be able to convince Verizon to grant him the email address, but he won't be able to convince the rest of the Internet to stop filtering the messages he sends.

Let's face it, the spam filtering that's currently in place in many systems on the 'net isn't very smart, and it would take years to fix (assuming it ever does get fixed).

Get gmail (1)

z_gringo (452163) | more than 5 years ago | (#24455083)

who the hell uses their ISPs email address anyway?

Does this guy not have a gmail address?

videochatik.ru - videochat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24455107)

Yes? Okey? www.videochatik.ru

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