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NYT Techie Night Life Reprogrammed

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the for-some-values-of-most-major-cities dept.

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securitas writes "Almost a decade after the Internet bubble collapsed, the New York Times reports on the revival of the Silicon Alley technology social scene — with a twist. It's now about substance. Gone are the "glitzy club ... minor celebrities, go-go dancers, an open bar and pricey giveaways" in favor of unconferences, Ignite, Pecha Kucha, ideas and 'a night life that involves actually talking to creative people doing exciting things.' Most major cities have a geek social scene like the NYC Soldering Championship [video link] featured in the article." Not surprisingly (for anyone who reads O'Reilly's Make magazine), Bre Pettis is one of the event organizers mentioned.

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Sausage Fest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482427)

I predict a total sausage fest.

Come on, ladies.

Geeks are great, once you get to know us.

Re:Sausage Fest (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483029)

I predict a total sausage fest.

Come on, ladies.

Geeks are great, once you get to know us.

[citation needed]

Re:Sausage Fest (3, Funny)

m.ducharme (1082683) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483405)

Do you mean:

I predict a total sausage fest [citation needed]

or

Geeks are great, once you get to know us [citation needed]

or both?

Re:Sausage Fest (3, Insightful)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483923)

What about geek ladies?

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

odiroot (1331479) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484257)

There are no girls on the Internet ;)

Re:Sausage Fest (4, Funny)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484567)

Woah, really? Then where did I get these? :o

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 6 years ago | (#24485853)

A plastic surgeon? :P I kid, I kid.

Re:Sausage Fest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24487209)

Have you seen your average geek? There are PLENTY of geeks with giant boobs. Usually covered with hair, unless they've yet to hit puberty.

Re:Sausage Fest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24486445)

There are no wimminz on teh internets

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

AmaDaden (794446) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483453)

Actually...

Charles Forman, a founder of a Web gaming company, delivered a cutting analysis of women with a fetish for dating founders of Web companies.

Also look at the pictures. Ladies are there.

Re:Sausage Fest (2, Insightful)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483559)

Actually, that's a "cutting analysis" of "women with a fetish for CEOs who, in their mind, must have money to spend on them." It's got little to do with women liking geeks, and everything to do with the idea that someone women will go after anything that spends money (and nothin' spends money on a woman like a lonely geek with disposable income).

Re:Sausage Fest (2, Interesting)

encoderer (1060616) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484423)

I think you're a little too tough on our fairer-sex cohorts.

In my estimation, it's probably far more about the risk-taking, high stakes, self-confidence that is required to be successful at most things, but business in particular.

This is not really a newsflash: Women are attracted to men who act like, yes, men. A guy who doesn't need his hand held and who doesn't need constant stroking of their sensitive ego.

You don't have to be rich, gorgeous, or muscle-bound and tattooed. You just need to possess the same kind of self assurance that guys that DO have those things regularly display.

In geek speak: The default position here is you not going out and not getting laid. So anything you do has no downside. You act self-assured and self-confident and it turns out she's not receptive to it, worst case scenario you're back where you started, home, alone, with a bitchin macbook and BSG on your new 48" LCD.

And yes, I'm a software developer. A pretty good one, actually. And I totally think like this:

me = new Person('shane', 'male');
her = new Person('april', 'female');

me.desireQueue.push(her);

Clearly, if my brain works like this, and I can find compelling women to share an evening (or even a cup of coffee with) you can too.

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#24485037)

me.desireQueue.push(her);

Heh, try that "push" on a real woman and you'll get "popped" in the face.

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 6 years ago | (#24486347)

He didn't say ALL women did. Just that "someone women did", which I'd read to mean that only SOME women go for guys who flash wads of cash. Usually they're the shallow ones whose beauty is quite literally only skin deep.

Re:Sausage Fest (3, Funny)

TerranFury (726743) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487665)

Usually they're the shallow ones whose beauty is quite literally only skin deep.

Indeed. You can't really know what kind of woman you've got until you remove the dermis [I recommend a potato peeler for this, along with suitable restraints (duct tape is surprisingly effective)].

They'll try to scream (a ball gag helps here, by the way), but what else can you expect? Nobody ever said true love was easy.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go write a filesystem for Linux.

Re:Sausage Fest (2, Insightful)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487511)

I'm slightly miffed that you believe that I'm unable to find a "compelling" woman to share an evening with. My current single state is, believe it or not, due to a prioritizing of female companionship below other concerns. I'll get over it, though :D

However, I also know from experience that women who do not figure financial resources (or, should I say, "resources" in general) into their model of what they find attractive in a man are relatively rare. Even the smart ones (and sometimes specially the smart ones) do such, consciously or not. Since we are not that far removed from our hunter-gatherer origins, mates with significant resources are still (though filtered through our society models) sought after due to the higher likelihood that both the mate, the attracted, and the offspring will survive.

I also realize that most of the time, geeks in this type of conversation are complaining they never get dates/attention/laid. However, in this case, I was merely relating what I've experienced in the past.

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24495577)

As a woman, I can authoritatively endorse what you have just said, particularly the third paragraph.

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

prennix (1069734) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484157)

aren't they fluffers? not that there's anything wrong with that. need to keep the startups... up and running.

Re:Sausage Fest (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484055)

I predict a total sausage fest.

Come on, ladies.

Geeks are great, once you get to know us.

Where's your geek pride? We're swinging more pipe than that. It's gonna be a kielbasa fest!

Soldering Championship?!?!?!? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482495)

Sounds leaden.

I'll take the open bar.

Sometimes balance means shutting off those overly acute powers of perception and going with the animal brain every so often.

Dropping the bubbly excess sounds great, but everything doesn't need to be turned into a intellectual engineering exercise.

Re:Soldering Championship?!?!?!? (2, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482657)

And PowerPoint ("Pecha Kucha") as a recreational after-work activity also sounds awful. Next they'll be having Lotus Notes Night!

Re:Soldering Championship?!?!?!? (3, Insightful)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482719)

I dunno. Honestly, I really enjoy decompressing with a couple beers and the whole "upscale strip club with hot women" environment. For me, over the top makes it better.

But, I agree. Just because one is geeky, doesn't mean one shouldn't stop on a regular basis and just embrace our instinctual urges without analyzing them to death.

Re:Soldering Championship?!?!?!? (1)

ThePeices (635180) | more than 6 years ago | (#24489515)

Who says its just an engineering exercise, in america they dont solder, they 'sodder', so it may excite more than just certain geeks.

Re:Soldering Championship?!?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24494933)

If you want to get even more geekier, get a microphone and whistle yourself into a modem connection. The person who manages to keep the connection open for the longest time, wins.

I've heard of guys doing this for several minutes.

I guess we're talking "web time", right? (5, Insightful)

krygny (473134) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482551)

"Almost a decade after the Internet bubble collapsed, ..."

The bubble burst in 2001. Internet "decades" are much shorter.

Re:I guess we're talking "web time", right? (1)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482767)

Well, it *has* technically been *almost* a decade. It's more than five years later, so I guess it would qualify, without being very informative.

Re:I guess we're talking "web time", right? (2, Informative)

ericspinder (146776) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483333)

The bubble burst in 2001.

I thought that it burst in 1999, and took about two years to deflate, it's actually really subjective (I was laid off in 1999). However, Wikipedia makes the assertion (right now) that it burst on March 10, 2000 [wikipedia.org] (the NASDAQ peak), so 8 or 9 years is close enough for me to accept 'almost a decade'.

Re:I guess we're talking "web time", right? (1)

Mr. Punch (58068) | more than 6 years ago | (#24554991)

Yeah, it's like the drive maker's GB.

soldering contest? (4, Funny)

NothingMore (943591) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482565)

What ever happened to the classic drinking contest? Sure you dont learn something useful like you would in a soldering contest but at least at the end all the girls look significantly hotter.

Re:soldering contest? (1)

abigor (540274) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482717)

They should combine the two by simply drinking solder.

Re:soldering contest? (5, Funny)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482839)

In geek bars, drinking solder makes girls find YOU significantly hotter.

Re:soldering contest? (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487951)

True. You can't say "Acute lead poisoning" without "cute".

Re:soldering contest? (1)

xded (1046894) | more than 6 years ago | (#24493337)

That's probably because you never tried hand soldering with RoHS compliant [eepublishers.co.za] solder/fluxes.

Bush Fabricated WMD letter (-1, Flamebait)

F34nor (321515) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482595)

Looks like all you fuck wit koolaid drinking Bush sychophants can now perminantly shut the fuck up. Ron Suskind's new book indicated that the WMD was actively fabricated. Next time you assmunching cum farts think you know what's good for Amerrica just remeber that you mindless dickforbrains sheep.

Re:Bush Fabricated WMD letter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482623)

and your point was ?

babes & cars :) [babes-cars.com]

Re:Bush Fabricated WMD letter (1)

F34nor (321515) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483125)

Trolling a Troll as an AC, what a chump.

Re:Bush Fabricated WMD letter (1)

hostyle (773991) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487657)

Whoos-AGH! who stole my karma!! my precious :(

Re:Bush Fabricated WMD letter (1)

F34nor (321515) | more than 6 years ago | (#24492227)

Even with that my karma is still excellent.

Re:Bush Fabricated WMD letter (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483939)

Um. What?

Soldering CHAMPIONS! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482653)

and not one of them got laid

Re:Soldering CHAMPIONS! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483677)

and not one of them got laid

Au contraire, I got my lead tinned in record time!

The Boston Social Scene (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482655)

Is there any Boston social scene around? I can't really find anything that doesn't require me to go to one of the local universities.

Re:The Boston Social Scene (1)

M0S 6581 (1332915) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483443)

www.beatresearch.com enjoy yo self

Re:The Boston Social Scene (1)

negated (981743) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484027)

Not Boston, but close enough:
Providence Geek Dinner [providencegeeks.org]
OR (for something specific to the Boston video gaming industry):
Boston Post Mortem [bostonpostmortem.org]

-S

Yeah, that's nice. (5, Insightful)

zullnero (833754) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482725)

Yeah, because I work all week with geeks all day long just so I can hang out with them after work on the weekend. Yeah...no.

Give me the old scene any day of the week. The social scene is about unwinding and meeting interesting people who help you expand your mind, not a bunch of people who think exactly like you and only are willing to challenge you in a game of Warcraft or in a heated discussion about design patterns and antipatterns. If you can't do that at work, then yeah, maybe you need that kind of interaction...but most don't because they get it all day long. Unless you're unemployed, of course.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (3, Insightful)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482793)

Your heart must not be truly Klingon.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24495735)

This is funny, but there's a grain of truth too. There's a difference between to-the-bone geeks who live and breathe the culture, and people who just work as one.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (3, Interesting)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482919)

I don't know. I'd much rather chat with intelligent people than the usual idiots I meet. Then again, I find myself attracted to intelligence and wit above anything else, in both types of relationships, platonic and otherwise. At the risk of sounding elitist, I honestly find most people dull. So this type of gathering might be fun.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (4, Insightful)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483081)

There's a huge difference between chatting with people who are generally intelligent, and people who like to speak about all the same things you do. Besides, this type of gathering sounds much, much too planned. It's like a grown-up kid's birthday party, with a schedule and everything.

I'd suggest that if you find most people you speak with to be idiots, that you're hanging out in the wrong places. It's fine to sound elitist, but realize that elitism is often just another way of saying "I'm unable to relate to people who aren't exactly like myself."

Besides, it's healthy to be dumb once in a while and let loose. I'm not sure why the whole "geeks shouldn't get wild" meme persists. Maybe it's a leftover from their highschool days when they didn't get to be wild with all the "Cool Kids" or something?

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (2, Funny)

exi1ed0ne (647852) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483451)

There's a huge difference between chatting with people who are generally intelligent, and people who like to speak about all the same things you do.

Meh. I thought the impression of intelligence was directly proportional to discussing things you agree with. This is /. after all!

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483999)

I think it's because a lot of geeks find "getting wild" kind of draining. I've gone through periods where I went clubbing and partying fairly often, and I really like cutting loose and dancing all night, or drinking with less-geeky friends... but perversely it can feel like work.

Maybe it's different for you, but I never "partied" or drank until I was in my 20s. Hanging out with non-geeks is a social skill I had to actually practice, and until you get reasonably good at it, it's not all that much fun, it's actually kind of stressful. Even now I have to be in the mood and think about what I'm doing, otherwise I come across as boring, aloof, and a bit of a prick.

I still go clubbing because I really like dancing, but more than once every couple weeks is too much. That's not enough to really keep good friends in the "scene", which means there's not much pulling me back in, which means I don't go back very often...

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484259)

I'm not saying I can't let loose, I can and do that :) I'm just saying, if I can find a gathering with a group of people more like myself, I can actually relax at the thought of the higher chance I'll be able to have a good conversation with someone. Alas, I doubt I'd be able to find what I'm really looking for, which is someone who cares more about what's in my mind than what's on my chest, but... ;)

However, I will agree that this particular set of events is awfully structured. Even anime and sci-fi conventions allot some free time for random socializing.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484339)

Alas, I doubt I'd be able to find what I'm really looking for, which is someone who cares more about what's in my mind than what's on my chest, but... ;)

Well, right tools for the job and all that. I'd suggest that by and large, finding life-long mates at any given quasi-random social grouping these days is a crap shoot. As much as people demean them, dating websites are much more likely to narrow your options to a few, select individuals with the desired attributes.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

yukk (638002) | more than 6 years ago | (#24485727)

Maybe you need to find people with the same hobbies as you have (assuming your hobbies aren't extreme soldering and optimising machine code for obscure CPUs) Or you need to find married geeks. There are plenty of us geeks wearing suicide rings [slashdot.org] out there along with their SOs (who can obviously socialise with geeks) and they're likely to know other people too. So there's a possible start for you :) HTH.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (2, Insightful)

DeadManCoding (961283) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483123)

Most normal people aren't dull, but if you get enough drinks into anyone, that is always fun. Alcohol consumption immediately nullifies intellect, and puts everyone on the same level.

Besides, you're bound to meet idiots no matter where you go. And you're also going to meet people that are truly elitist. May as well enjoy a few drinks, have some good laughs, and go home happy, if not slightly intoxicated.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483309)

Most people are dull, but if you get enough drinks into anyone, that is always fun.

Fixed that for you.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (4, Insightful)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483403)

Most normal people aren't dull

I beg to differ. Most "normal" people (say, average intelligence) have little to no interest in examining/understanding the world, and as a result, aren't terribly interesting to speak with, as they bring no interesting (read: different from mine) viewpoints or insight to a discussion. That's why, I, personally, prefer the company of smart people.

Alcohol consumption immediately nullifies intellect

I disagree with this too - intellect nullification doesn't happen until drink #5+ and if there's anything I learned in college, it's that high level intellectual conversations are readily fueled by alcohol (up to a point).

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483603)

I disagree with this too - intellect nullification doesn't happen until drink #5+ and if there's anything I learned in college, it's that high level intellectual conversations are readily fueled by alcohol (up to a point).

No, they just *seem* high level at the time you're talking about them.

Look, yeah, not everyone is a geek. But there's value in learning to interact with people who aren't exactly like you are. Not everything in life is about geeking out constantly.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

genner (694963) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483893)

Not everything in life is about geeking out constantly.

We are sick of your lies sir!

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (2, Insightful)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484361)

there's value in learning to interact with people who aren't exactly like you are

Absolutely - but intelligence does not define who one is. My tendency to select friends who are smart does not inform the type of person I tend to choose as friends. Smart people run the gamut of interests and personality types - I don't have *any* friends who I would say are "exactly like me."

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

Escogido (884359) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487851)

Look, yeah, not everyone is a geek. But there's value in learning to interact with people who aren't exactly like you are.

Value, sure. Fun, no way.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (2, Insightful)

story645 (1278106) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483993)

Most "normal" people (say, average intelligence) have little to no interest in examining/understanding the world,

Neither do most smart people, who are just as happy to live in their own bubble as anyone else. Look no further then the slashdot comment and moderation system. People like their beliefs and preaching to the choir and don't venture outside that regardless of intelligence. Intelligence just tends to have a slight effect on the beliefs people tend to congregate around.

Plus, too many intelligent people think that they're right and everyone else is an idiot, which makes conversing with them slightly less enjoyable than talking to a wall. (You can at least pound the wall for not being responsive.) I like talking to people who listen, don't really care about how intelligent they are.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484717)

Plus, too many intelligent people think that they're right and everyone else is an idiot, which makes conversing with them slightly less enjoyable than talking to a wall. (You can at least pound the wall for not being responsive.) I like talking to people who listen, don't really care about how intelligent they are.

That's quite true - there are a lot of smart people who think far too highly of themselves. I suppose I should have added that "open-minded" is also a quality I find necessary - as I find close-minded, intelligent people are barely distinguishable from stupid people.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484845)

As an example of someone who is intelligent, but close-minded to the point of appearing like a complete idiot - I give you....Rush Limbaugh.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

DeadManCoding (961283) | more than 6 years ago | (#24485959)

Hence the reason for my first comment. Intelligence isn't everything, and even normal people can give comments that provide for that "open-mindedness". A normal person won't think like me, thereby providing me with a different insight or perspective into world events. It's not all about the brains, but if someone has those brains, it doesn't always mean that the conversations are better.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 6 years ago | (#24486747)

intellect nullification doesn't happen until drink #5+ and if there's anything I learned in college, it's that high level intellectual conversations are readily fueled by alcohol (up to a point).

I can vouch for this. I once had an awesome conversation about ceramic engines [wikipedia.org] after 4 beers. The sober people at the party told me it was very enlightening.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24494177)

Thank you, this is what I was trying to say before. You put it much more eloquently than I did.

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24500779)

Christopher Hitchens comes to mind...

Re:Yeah, that's nice. (1)

T.E.D. (34228) | more than 6 years ago | (#24498451)

I don't know. I'd much rather chat with intelligent people than the usual idiots I meet. Then again, I find myself attracted to intelligence and wit above anything else, in both types of relationships, platonic and otherwise. At the risk of sounding elitist, I honestly find most people dull.

As a married guy I probably have different goals in meeting people than you. However, I have to say that I find most engineers are dumber than a lot of people would think, and my blue-collar (and no collar) friends are a lot smarter than a lot of people would think. A lot of people don't like to hear this, as it explodes the comfortable myth that we well-paid people somehow innately deserve our better treatment, but its true.

Don't get me wrong, I get along with pretty much everyone. But even at work I enjoy my conversations with the machinists and the janitors a lot more than most of those with my fellow engineers. In fact, the janitors are hands-down the most interesting people here.

Cyber-nouveau riche (4, Funny)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482787)

And we finally have a definitive answer to the question asked at least since the time of the Roman Republic: how can we segregate those with new wealth but no cultural sophistication away from the rest of society without isolating their money from the larger economy?

The apparent answer: soldering contests with expensive drinks.

Um...preplanned events? (3, Insightful)

Seakip18 (1106315) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482881)

I figure just throwing a bunch of nerds and alcohol will produce more "intellectual" stimulating exercises than this whole pre-planning will. I mean, nothing wrong with a soldering contest with beer, but I'll take a bunch of napkins and spur-of-the-moment scribbled ideas after a night of drinking with my fellow guys than attend an organized town-meeting.

I mean, who HASN'T had a a great/horrible idea when drinking?

Re:Um...preplanned events? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483727)

indeed. There's the added bonus where inhibitions are down and people aren't afraid of suggesting an idea that might make them sound less intelligent. That and if its at a party and at least one nerd has some friends who aren't nerds, you'll get some non-nerd prospectives in the discussion.

Some of my team's best programming, hardware hacking, and rapid UI prototyping have come after a few drinks on a weekend.

Techie Night Life? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24482933)

Here in South Florida we have Night Life, but no Techies. Seriously, there is no social interaction for geeks down here. You find 2 or 3 smart people and hold on to them for dear life. Nobody seems to socialize in a group larger than 5. Part of that may be how freakin huge our state is and how spread out we all are, but there are just no technology meet-ups in south florida of any decent size or regularity.

Re:Techie Night Life? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483091)

I'd rather get laid than hang out at a sausage fest geek meetup. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Re:Techie Night Life? (1)

Quince alPillan (677281) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483675)

That depends on how geeky you want to be. Though not necessarily tech oriented, you may want to check out the local D&D / LARP crowd. LARP is extremely popular in South Florida, with each major city (except Naples) having a Camarilla [white-wolf.com] presence. Gamer geeks and tech geeks can and do mix, and I've found several tech geeks through gaming. The local gaming shops typically have D&D or miniatures regulars coming in, and if you ask the shop owner of your local store, they might give you a heads up about the local groups.

Re:Techie Night Life? (1)

ciphersort (1333553) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484767)

Meanwhile in North Florida nerds still ingest massive quantities of drugs and party like whores... You know... I was considering moving to South Florida... until I read your comment. Maybe it's just your friends though... :)

Sorry guys, but... (3, Interesting)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482971)

"a night life that involves actually talking to creative people doing exciting things."

Pretension still doesn't count as "substance."

now thats a night life that i can get used to : (4, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#24482985)

'a night life that involves actually talking to creative people doing exciting things.'

withering away one's life in a dark bar corner with sleazy sluts and calling it fun didnt make much sense ever anyways.

Talking to interesting people (1)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483093)

Maybe I'm Captain Obvious, but who wouldn't want to talk to creative people doing exciting things?

Re:Talking to interesting people (1)

genner (694963) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483263)

Maybe I'm Captain Obvious, but who wouldn't want to talk to creative people doing exciting things?

Futurama had it right.

"Smart thing make people feel dumb, and unexpected things make people feel scared."

We geeks go against the grain that way.

SPECZ (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483145)

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v9.pdf

Maybe this will get the introverts out in the open (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483251)

For everyone saying 'I get enough of geeks at work', well good. You're one of the assholes I get enough of on the weekends.

I don't mind my 'non-geek' friends at work, but I'm tired of being the weird one for having 'geeky' interests at home. I like to meet people for whom working in technology is a passion, and creativity is a gift.

I think it's nice that they're arranging things that will get people who might not usually go out to the bars. I think you have to have something like a soldering contest, just to get that introverted crowd to go check it out.

Nightlife with PowerPoint? (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483271)

At IgniteNYC, after ... a half-hour of drink-refilling and chatting, 16 speakers made PowerPoint presentations.

I've been to evening events like that, with presentations by people who want funding. Listening to people present bad business ideas is entertaining maybe twice. Then it gets really boring.

Re:Nightlife with PowerPoint? (1)

rsmah (518909) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484063)

Ignite wasn't about people pitching their business plans. I was there. Not a single presentation did that. Though one was by a VC/Angel who talked about how to raise money, very few of the talks were about business, per-se.

Rob

NYT ??? (0)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483349)

You've got to go clear to the east coast flagship New York Times for a report on Silicone Valley? Wtf?? And when has the NYT been right about much of anything in recent years anyway???

Re:NYT ??? (1)

abigor (540274) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483647)

Silicon Alley, not Valley.

Re:NYT ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24487133)

Mmmmm... silicone valley.

We use to call these "users groups" (2, Funny)

east coast (590680) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483775)

*DUCKS*

sounds like beatniks for geeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24483911)

This is something like the beatnik movement in literature. Although a few good pieces of lit came out of the movement, most of it was amature poets looking for any audience willing to sit through bad poetry. And that audience was other bad poets.

In looking at the examples from the article, it looked like the same thing. Five minutes to spew your geek ideas to an audience of geeks who are interested in one thing - their own five minutes to spew their own ideas.

Re:sounds like beatniks for geeks (1)

rsmah (518909) | more than 6 years ago | (#24484015)

I was there. It was not like what you said. See my other post for more details. Cheers, Rob

I was there, it was fun (4, Informative)

rsmah (518909) | more than 6 years ago | (#24483991)

I went to this thing. The soldering contest was just the warm up (a friend of mine participated and almost won).

The event was actually pretty fun. It was in a biggish bar/lounge so there was plenty of booze and it was *packed*. The crowd was a mix of geeks, artsy types and business folks. A bit loud, but hey, it's NYC.

The main thing was a bunch of 5 minute presentations. They were NOT demos or requests for funding as someone else implied. The talks ranged from funny (how NYPD conducts undercover prostitution busts) to weird (guerilla knitting) to informative (how to raise money from angels) to cool (a prof from NYU's ITP who showed a bunch of new tactile interface ideas) to preachy (helping out in third world countries). Most of the speakers were pretty good. One guy even did his in rap/hip-hop style.

All in all, it was fun and everyone I know who went was glad they did.

Rob

Meanwhile in Florida (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24484703)

Meanwhile in Florida nerds still ingest massive quantities of drugs and party like whores.

Re: Hateraid. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24485011)

Yeah so I was in the soldering contest.

It was fun.

The drinks weren't bad by any means. And the crowd was pretty cool. The talks weren't sales pitches... and while some were less than entertaining many were pretty damned awesome.

But what it comes down to... was that I enjoyed it.

Nerdly or not.. if I enjoy it I enjoy it.

Lot of armchair sophists on this site... it's pretty sad. You should get outside occasionally and do something you enjoy, instead of ripping on people for doing the things they enjoy.

=D

FaLgorz (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24486221)

battled in court, FanatIc known

mo3 Oup (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24486327)

Los Angeles (1)

TheSync (5291) | more than 6 years ago | (#24487461)

Much to my surprise, I have found that Los Angeles has a fairly significant geeky underbelly, for example:

Dorbot SoCal [dorkbot.org]
Barcamp LA [barcampla.org]
LA G33k Dinner [g33kd1nner.com]
Mindshare LA [mindshare.la]
Machine Project [machineproject.com]

Here is a calendar [techvenue.com] of LA tech events.

The *real* geeks (1)

debuglife (806973) | more than 6 years ago | (#24494779)

ok - so here is something you don't want to hear. Real geeks are not solder monkeys. Nor are they like "Saul Griffith", the guy on the main page of Ignite and who won a genius award. Thats just media driven hype. Tell me one lasting contribution Griffith has made. Now, the real geeks are the people who walk around grocery stores thinking of the problem they want to solve. They build things, and often, it might just be something like a Microscope. Going to solder fests is not being geeky - its being a geek wannabe.
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