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Mozilla Unveils Aurora Concept Browser

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the because-they-can dept.

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Barence writes "Mozilla has unveiled a spectacular new concept browser, dubbed Aurora. The bleeding-edge browser is part of a new Mozilla Labs initiative, in which the open-source foundation is encouraging people to contribute ideas and designs for the browser of the future. The Aurora browser demonstration shows a highly advanced way of collaborating data gathered on the web, and represents a spectacular introduction to the new Mozilla Labs, which much like Google Labs looks to become a home for offbeat projects which would otherwise probably never see the light of day. More details, and a video demonstration, are on the Mozilla Labs site."

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213 comments

new? (3, Interesting)

Rysc (136391) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494837)

This seems like a rather old project. Am I wrong? http://www.mozilla.org/rdf/doc/aurora.html [mozilla.org]

Re:new? (1)

phoneteller (1261402) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495699)

can't they just give it out as an extension or add-on or whatever they call it these days?

I for one (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494871)

I, for one, welcome our new Aurora Concept Browser overlords.

Damn you Taco!!

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (-1, Offtopic)

DuncanE (35734) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495233)

Okay.. Im replying up top, but this is such a random article I feel a random comment is in order...

This just goes to show that the bringer of the last revolution (FF over IE) has no real idea who its over thrower will be.

Personally I would like to see FF add some kind of podcast support (call it netcast if you like) plus better media download library management. Then FF could be a browser, news paper, radio station and TV station all in one.

Itunes is the real competition to Firefox and the browser market in general.

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (2, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495285)

What do you want for podcast support?

When I click on a podcast in Firefox, either it plays through the site's player, or the mp3 downloads and plays in my computer's media player.

What is missing here?

As for handling library functions of my media, I leave that to my media player. I'm not sure I need Firefox to handle that.

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (0, Redundant)

DuncanE (35734) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495347)

Yes but its not automatic.

You dont come to your computer and have the podcast already downloaded because of FF.

And these days a podcast maybe a TV show.

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495535)

So Firefox should be iTunes and handle media subscriptions, download media, and handle media library functions?

How would Firefox even know which podcasts to download?

Let's say I want to listen to Bill Simmon's BS Report from ESPN. The link the podcast is always different. How will the browser just know to find the link, even if I tell it I always want the BS Report?

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (5, Funny)

hahiss (696716) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495879)

Can't you just use emacs for that?

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (2, Informative)

orasio (188021) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496153)

That, and the kitchen sink.
Maybe Songbird is what you want, although it's not ready yet.

Re:I for one... welcome our new Itunes overloads (-1, Offtopic)

DuncanE (35734) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495531)

So people are modding me off topic...

Let me me pick this from the article:
"The author searches through sports, entertainment ..."

Sounds like iTunes to me?

iTunes on windows is probably just as disruptive as firefox on windows... why? Because it offers something MS doesnt?

And that fact that apple pushed Safari along with itunes.. Steve J can see the connection. You still want to mod me off topic?

Shameless Contest Plug (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494883)

The bleeding-edge browser is part of a new Mozilla Labs initiative, in which the open-source foundation is encouraging people to contribute ideas and designs for the browser of the future.

Labs is more than that. Back in ought six, Slashdot covered their first extend Firefox contest [slashdot.org] where people were bated with Alienware swag and developer conference passes to develop extensions & plug-ins for Firefox. The second year saw Shareaholic [mozillalinks.org] come out as a winning plug-in. The third year just finished judging [mozilla.com] and I'm excited to see what Mozilla finds as the best Firefox 3 add ons.

It's nice to see a foundation aiding, encouraging and rewarding the average developer off the street for their work. Even better than that is when Mozilla backs a plug-in or add-on it's usually solid and reliable (unlike the many WinAmp plug-ins that plagued my college machine).

Re:Shameless Contest Plug (5, Funny)

GyroLC (956990) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495723)

...where people were bated with Alienware swag and developer conference passes...

If someone does it to you, it isn't bating.

Bleeding-edge browser? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494889)

Unless it supports all the latest ECMAscript, DOM and CSS specifications (including HTML 5 media) then it's far from being bleeding-edge.

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (0, Troll)

Miguel de Icaza (660439) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495089)

Those Mozilla guys! - the demonstration was done on a mac, every single Mozilla developer uses a Mac. And it's funny, they constantly attack Silverlight, they constantly attack Flash and then all of them use proprietary operating systems, they don't seem to have a problem doing it. And then they had the Guiness record thing for Firefox 3 and you went to the website and it had a flash map to show where people are downloading - so there definitely is a double standard here. It is getting ridiculous.

And that's after all their claiming that you can do everything in AJAX - so they definitely don't "walk the walk". Mozilla is evil therefore we'll help poisoning the web with Silverlight, fuck open standards - consumers dont care where new ideas come from, just as long as they're offered at competative prices.

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495429)

Are you like a crazy person?

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (1)

neokushan (932374) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495901)

I am quite sure they will say so.

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496131)

+5 Awesomely appropriate, and perfectly executed movie reference.

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (1)

galoise (977950) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495739)

there's a whole world of difference between a.- the operating system you use in your private box, b.- the standards you use to code on your web page and c.- the practices and formats that you think are the most sensitive and convenient for standardization.

In other words: my choice of os, or scripting language, or home computer will not affect in ANYTHING the truth or false standing of the rather obvious and self-evident proposition that "closed formats and standards are bad".

If you really want to impersonate miguelito, then at least do him a favor and come up with some decent arguments.

Re:Bleeding-edge browser? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495965)

And it's funny, they constantly attack Silverlight, they constantly attack Flash and then all of them use proprietary operating systems, they don't seem to have a problem doing it.

Open Standards != Open Source

And then they had the Guiness record thing for Firefox 3 and you went to the website and it had a flash map to show where people are downloading - so there definitely is a double standard here.

I don't see a problem with advocating for open standards while simultaneously being pragmatic about your website design. Even if they were able to make their Flash map using Ajax and canvas in Firefox, it wouldn't have worked in IE so their audience would be diminished.

consumers dont care where new ideas come from, just as long as they're offered at competative prices

That is largely true, and they don't even seem to care so much about price so long as they can grab the install CDs from work.

Spectacular! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494899)

Highly advanced!

web os (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494903)

It's the web OS, plain and simple.
It's good but it relies on web services a lot. But that's what a browser is for. Dear Mozilla developers, focus on Enterprise level as well. Though it is open source and all, it would be great to be able to configure Aurora to manage private services.

The question that comes to mind is - will it be like the Aurora class ships in Stargate Atlantis? meaning - what are the security features (better shields?)? What are the requirements? (Will it be ZPM-like requirements?)

Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (5, Interesting)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494905)

The similarity with Google Labs is the word "labs" this is about user requirements and suggestions rather than fully fledged products. Its about people suggesting improvements and then those moving into development. This means its at a much earlier part of the product development cycle than Google Labs (which starts with a beta or alpha product).

Saying its like Google Labs is like saying Saks Fifth Avenue is like Madison Avenue because they both have the word Avenue.

Also Like Adobe & Digg Labs... (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495063)

The similarity with Google Labs is the word "labs" this is about user requirements and suggestions rather than fully fledged products. Its about people suggesting improvements and then those moving into development. This means its at a much earlier part of the product development cycle than Google Labs (which starts with a beta or alpha product).

As long as we're talking about labs, there's also Adobe Labs [adobe.com] and Digg Labs [digg.com] that I keep my eye on. (Funny, I don't actually read Digg, I just enjoy seeing how they visualize their data!)

While you're right that these sites aren't open to the public, I think it's mostly due to the nightmare of trying to credit people with ideas when you're making billions off these ideas months later. The community might not ... like that.

I will point out that the 'labs' concept just seems to be an indication of how these entities see future development. A similarity between Google and Mozilla is that they offer tons of developer resources on their labs sites. I don't think those two are so different from each other.

Instead of looking at these Labs as inferior, I rather give the companies a chance to show me what they think is bleeding edge and a lot of the time it's a good indicator of innovation. However you look at it, it's a good idea to keep an eye on the labs so you know what your competitor/partner is up to and get a glimpse of the future as they see it.

Re:Also Like Adobe & Digg Labs... (4, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495133)

where's slashdot labs?

Re:Also Like Adobe & Digg Labs... (2, Funny)

vbraga (228124) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495359)

On my lawn. Now get out of it.

Re:Also Like Adobe & Digg Labs... (5, Informative)

Falkkin (97268) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495609)

slashcode.com

Re:Also Like Adobe & Digg Labs... (1)

kazade84 (1078337) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495905)

In Cowboy Neal's basement?

Re:Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (1)

Dystopian Rebel (714995) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495181)

Saying its like Google Labs is like saying Saks Fifth Avenue is like Madison Avenue because they both have the word Avenue.

I live in another city and cannot grok your simile in fullness, you insensitive clod!

Re:Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495271)

I live in a different country. One is an upmarket store [saksfifthavenue.com] the other is either just a street in Manhattan or an Australian band [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495363)

The similarity with Google Labs is the word "labs" this is about user requirements and suggestions rather than fully fledged products. Its about people suggesting improvements and then those moving into development. This means its at a much earlier part of the product development cycle than Google Labs (which starts with a beta or alpha product).

Saying its like Google Labs is like saying Saks Fifth Avenue is like Madison Avenue because they both have the word Avenue.

1) Google Labs starts with alpha or beta products? Have you notice that they then don't progress beyond alpha or beta?

2) Saks is sort of like Madison, just with a roof.

Re:Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495443)

Well, but it is not better than Paris Hilton for President. I support her, she is hot...

Re:Like Google Labs.... it has the same last word (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495569)

if you think pre-pubescent boys are hot....

inno (5, Interesting)

boxlight (928484) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494919)

It's nice to see some innovation in software (or in this vaporware stage, at least). desktop software hasn't changed much in the last 10 years. I mean, OS X is a better looky feely version of Windows, and Vista is trying to be OS X. Firefox and Safari are trying to be a better IE. And web 2.0 apps and chat clients are basically better versions of Usenet and IRC.

But there hasn't been anything truly revolutionary in the world of desktop software in a long time.

Re:inno (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495005)

modded flamebait? comment seems pretty dead on to me.

Re:inno (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495109)

Replying to yourself anonymously to complain about moderation isn't revolutionary.

Re:inno (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495323)

Replying to yourself anonymously to complain about moderation isn't revolutionary.

...but doing it recursively for seven weeks is. Or will be now!

Re:inno (0, Offtopic)

Pennidren (1211474) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495491)

Cute, but it was actually me replying.

Re:inno (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495211)

But there hasn't been anything truly revolutionary in the world of desktop software in a long time.

You obviously have not played Half-Life 2 is this is what you really think. It Roxzorzz!!!eleven111!1!

Re:inno (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495703)

HL2 in my mind was one hell of a let down - well expected this amazing thing.. and when it came out i just felt hordily let down - yet every one seems to love it - i just don't get it.. sure they made improvements but so many things where over looked that it just seemed like a rehash of the same old.

Re:inno (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495747)

Half-Life 2?
I have no need for this bull shit.
I _have_ a life! ;)

Re:inno (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495511)

There is nothing wrong with improvement.
I fail to see how a concept browser is revolutionary compared to anything else you listed there.

Sombody please tag this story! (2, Funny)

dwalsh (87765) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494923)

"Spectacular".

Re:Sombody please tag this story! (0, Offtopic)

Rysc (136391) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495055)

I like your signature, but it would be better to say "$(($(date +%Y)+1)) is going to be the year of Linux on the desktop!"

Just for accuracy and all that, right? or perhaps "expr `date +%Y` + 1", for broader compatibility.

Re:Sombody please tag this story! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495293)

That's what I said about your little sister's pink and pouty pussy. With just a few wisps of angel hair here and there... I'm going farming!

Re:Sombody please tag this story! (5, Insightful)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495409)

Looks like a tornado touched down and sent all the guys bookmarks spiraling into a huge disorganized mess. Overwhelmingly craptastic is how I would describe it. I really find this push on all sides to transform my computer from a deterministic machine to a non-deterministic one rather disturbing. I think these are the sorts of tools that, used habitually, will make a person intellectually pliable and mentally deficient. Sabotage the persons capacity to organize their shit, teach them to fuzzy search everything and accept what they receive, throw some corporate propaganda in there to make a few bucks on the side. No one really knows what the computer is going to spit out this time, so they'll accept it. Brawndo, it's got what plants crave...

Nothing is wasted! (2, Insightful)

jfbilodeau (931293) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494925)

Though Aurora may never see the light of day, the ideas brought forth may find themselves in future iteration of the browser, and even the web.

At the very least, open-source innovations like those provide previous art when a troll patents the very same idea years later.

Ugly, confusing, hyped. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494963)

A million little screens floating around? Yeah, call me when that works out.

Re:Ugly, confusing, hyped. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495823)

hi, it's 1985 calling. ever heard of this [wikipedia.org] ?

Another browser? (1)

BritneySP2 (870776) | more than 5 years ago | (#24494983)

How many more web browsers do we need?

Re:Another browser? (5, Funny)

halfEvilTech (1171369) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495043)

How many more web browsers do we need?

um about 3 +/- the sq rt of a loaf of bread

The future of Firefox is MSIE? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24494989)

Potentially the most interesting thing about the video is how integrated everything appears, with desktop tasks and an instant messaging utility all linked directly into the browser interface.

Yeahhh.. didn't they already sue Microsoft for this?

Re:The future of Firefox is MSIE? (5, Insightful)

irc.goatse.cx troll (593289) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495085)

Ugh. I really hope they figure out threading. Right now web2.0 is like windows3.11 level multitasking-- One site or plugin starts to eat all of your resources and until you manage to close it or it fixes itself you can't use any of your other (web)apps.

WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495047)

Browser of the future? No on my computer. This will be used by all the folks who insist that eye movement and voice recognician will be the interface of the future. These "future" browser "features" are not what I'm looking for in my browser.

Re:WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495693)

I didn't touch the lawn, I swear!

All in a name (5, Informative)

IceFox (18179) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495103)

This will no doubt lead to confusion with the Arora webkit browser. http://arora-browser.org/ [arora-browser.org] Sigh... I spent a good chunk of time finding the name and making sure there wasn't any conflicts out there. And then comes along not only a software application, but a browser... :( Should I change my name or ask them to change theirs? -Benjamin Meyer

Re:All in a name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495281)

I was planning on posting a comment on the similarity in names, but I see I was beaten--and by the author of Arora, no less.

Well, let's see...Firefox/Iceweasel is taken. So you, IceFox, should name it FireWeasel. Just for completion.

Re:All in a name (3, Funny)

IceFox (18179) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495325)

Yah mozilla keeps destroying my names. I have been icefox sense 1997 and could usually get that nick everywhere I went, but ever sense firefox came out it has been harder and harder to get the nick icefox. And now this :(

Re:All in a name (5, Insightful)

byolinux (535260) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495301)

Ask them to change.

Re:All in a name (1)

ari_j (90255) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495307)

You should have spelled it right the first time. :P I'd wait and see if Aurora takes off before getting too bent out of shape.

Re:All in a name (1)

galoise (977950) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495883)

i wouldn't wait before Aurora takes off before talking to them, as it will be far easier convincing them of a name change now, than after someone outside geekland knows about it.

Re:All in a name (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495331)

Mozilla uses experimental names, and changes them at release all the time. I'd ask them if they intend to use a different name upon a possible release.

Re:All in a name (1)

g00sie (1182855) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495513)

Well, initially, Firefox was going to be called Firebird until the Firebird database project lobbied them to change.

Re:All in a name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495659)

Latest snapshot crashes on win2k, I assume that like Safari this is whenever a page contains script (as my startup page does).

Re:All in a name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495803)

What is your startup page?

OT: Needs screenshots (1)

maskedbishounen (772174) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496025)

Random off topic thought. You need screen shots on the Arora project page.

Not more frames (5, Interesting)

GBC (981160) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495111)

This looks interesting and it is good that they are thinking about the future of browsing. I liked the ease with which you could manipulate and share data, though I imagine that something that is designed to be that open would introduce some interesting security issues.

I am definitely not a fan of the pop-up frames as you move the mouse to the edge of the window - it is one of the things I don't like about Sugar OS on my XO/OLPC laptop. I don't know if others have had similar problems, but I found them way too easy to trigger and very distracting when you were in the middle of doing something else.

Also, I am not sure how practical the bookmarks/history view is for large amounts of data. It looks like they are taking a leaf out of iTunes' album view. I still use bookmarks instead of tags (not sure if that makes me a dinosaur or not) and I have a helluva lot of them. A visual representation of them versus the existing menu structure would make it much harder to find what I am looking for. It is down to my personal preferences admittedly, but if the end goal is to make information easier to find, I don't think it works.

Oh, and did anyone else get reminded of the D&D computer games with the radial menus when watching the demo?

Organization = disorganization? (5, Insightful)

e2d2 (115622) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495121)

What is with this new desktop "paradigm" I keep seeing everywhere from this new browser to the new multi-touch displays? Where everything is disorganized and you simply wander through everything tossing it out of the way like looking through your dirty clothes hamper for a clean set of underwear. Call me old fashioned but I like hierarchical data and tree structures.

I understand it's just a concept, but seeing this type of thing everywhere has me wonder who exactly is doing usability and what they are smoking because I want some.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (5, Interesting)

gertam (1019200) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495489)

Order? Structure? Hierarchy? How quaint! Don't you realize that no one has any time for that anymore. The new paradigm for the future is EXACTLY to toss everything on the floor and let the glorious God SEARCH order it for you.

The new usability is all about easing the life of the content creator, and letting the computer sort things out. Creating order is boring and hard. The content user is responsible for leveraging SEARCH to find what it needs. Oh, maybe you can throw a category tag on something if you really need to find it again quickly.

This is the whole GMail vs. Outlook argument that I see over and over again. Trees and hierarchy are soooooo old fashioned. This is just a visual extension of the death of the hierarchical structure in our lives.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (3, Interesting)

the_raptor (652941) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495683)

Except Gmail encourages you to use tags, which are functionally no different to folders/directories if you just use one.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (3, Informative)

gertam (1019200) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495957)

It is different than folders/directories. It is better. You don't have to know any hierarchy before tagging something. As you indirectly point out, it can have multiple tags, and really it is a helper to SEARCH. It can help organize things for sure, and I find it more useful, ultimately, because it is not hierarchical. But it is not the same as folders/directories.

It really is more like throwing everything on the floor, except you have a magic tool to grab any item you want, so long as you have the right incantation to retrieve it.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (3, Funny)

icebrain (944107) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495845)

Order, structure, and hierarchy work great for my files and things. But for my bedroom and workshop, "toss it on the floor" seems to be the entrenched system.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (1)

Tom90deg (1190691) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495595)

I agree. I don't want a nice pretty, "Ohh, look how it flies across the screen!" desktop. I want it to do exactly what I tell it, as quickly as possible.

Shiny =/= good. This looks interesting, but not something that I would ever use. It's not easier to use, it just looks fancy, not to mention that the scenarios that they suggest are a bit far fetched at best. Are people really arguing about the average rainfall and the weather?

Re:Organization = disorganization? (5, Interesting)

interiot (50685) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495643)

"New" paradigm? It's been happening for 10 years.
  • Google — you could have one central authority organize everything into a single hierarchical structure that's organized very well... or, you can do as good of a guess as possible with lots of help from machines.
  • GMail — you could spend lots of man-hours neatly organizing your mail into folders... or, you could just search it.
  • Biology [wired.com] — using humans to figure out causation is best, but using machines to find correlation will work for now.

When you find yourself spending your whole day organizing data into trees, but the amount of data is constantly growing, you begin to realize that it's not useful to perfectly organize everything anymore.

Re:Organization = disorganization? (4, Insightful)

Ramirozz (758009) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496037)

Yes, why to add all these effects and nice looking,sci-fi movie-like widgets and features if most users around the world do not know what bookmarks or tags are? We, technical people, are used to learn new stuff quick even if it is not 100% usefull. Mozilla needs to remember there is still a gap between technology and users. Internet is very young and there is a lor of people who only uses the address bar... that's all they need. I do understand all these are concepts but I'm not sure if all this "Minority Report" tools are the way to go. Usability is not fashion

Re:Organization = disorganization? (1)

Evildonald (983517) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496127)

What's the matter with you? Why wouldn't you want the contents of your entire hard drive in a flat hierarchy? Instant access to any file you want! :P

Re:Organization = disorganization? (1)

moose_hp (179683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496207)

This may be sigthly off-topic, but about the dektop paradigm, there was an article a couple weeks ago.

Killing the Desktop Metaphor with GNOME [ecchi.ca]

Worth reading.

Adaptive Path designed Aurora with Mozilla (5, Informative)

securitas (411694) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495161)

Setting aside the gushing tone of the submitter's post, Aurora is Adaptive Path's first open source design project and collaboration with Mozilla -- it's not all Mozilla.

Adaptive Path team designers and members discuss the design process extensively and in detail on their blog. More details in the Firehose [slashdot.org]

You might want to check out the Aurora Launch Party [yahoo.com] , too, if you're in San Francisco tonight

there is no browser (5, Insightful)

KatTran (122906) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495165)

This is just the release of part 1 of a 4 part series showing a mock-up of what a future browser might look like. There is no code, there is no browser, this is vapor-ware at its finest. Additional Adaptive Path, the people who made the video, are throwing a party to celebrate their release of the video.

When did software development turn into movie producing?

Re:there is no browser (5, Insightful)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495469)

Well, software development is not just code, there's also requirements gathering and design, among others. I'm not saying Adaptive Path didn't jump the gun, but the coding part is easy enough with excellent developers, design, and communication.

Re:there is no browser (1)

The Dancing Panda (1321121) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495481)

It's a request for ideas. Like "this is our idea, how would you build on it", not "hey check out our new browser that with each new day is coming out in exactly 6 months".

And it sounds like the party is more for the sake of throwing a party. I mean sure, they're giving it a reason, maybe it's not a good one, but who needs a good reason to throw a party?

Re:there is no browser (1)

$random_var (919061) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496221)

When did software development turn into movie producing?

When has it not been? Good software development even uses storyboards.

Lowfat Project (1)

Tom9729 (1134127) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495175)

I can't VTFV because I'm at work (ha), but from the screenshots Aurora looks like it could do for the web what the 'lowfat' project could do for digital photo albums.

His webpage isn't very up-to-date, but you can find a Youtube video of the 'lowfat' software here [youtube.com] .

It actually does not require XGL, I'm not sure why those Youtube videos seem to think that it does.

The actual webpage for the project is here [thepimp.net] . It's not too hard to get up and running if you're using a semi-recent version of GNU/Linux. :-)

Related to Amaya? (3, Informative)

SpinyNorman (33776) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495189)

A quick scan of TFA doesn't reveal the heritage of Aurora, but the emphasis on web publishng vs viewing, and even the name, both immediately bring to mind the (ancient, but continuously updated) W3C editor/browser Amaya:

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ [w3.org]

Is it like a concept car? (4, Funny)

sleeponthemic (1253494) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495227)

In that the release date is the same day as duke nukem for(n)ever?

Confusing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495303)

There's already a QTWebKit based browser called arora. [google.com] I propose firesomething.

please fix 3.0 first (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495335)

please fix memory leak in 3.0 first kthxbye.

Wordle (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495399)

Wordle [wordle.net] of TFA.

Cutting-edge Eclipse/Gecko/Java browser (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495425)

We released our own research-oriented web browser:

http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/suprabrowser

It is designed to run in a VM where the individual stores all of their private data on their own server. It supports persistent, threaded instant messaging, bookmarks, RSS, file management, contact management, threaded discussions, web page highlighting, email, mailing lists, and more.

If it sounds like too much, you can use whatever parts you want. All network traffic is encrypted using 3DES after a zero knowledge based authentication.

For better or worse, it is certainly one of the most innovative products in the computer industry, open source or not, but that means that it takes a bit more marketing to get people interested. It's a fairly different concept as far as information management is concerned, but definitely a necessary one.

Horrible UI (3, Insightful)

Phroggy (441) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495433)

That radial menu tells me these people know nothing about good UI design. It appears to work precisely the same way as a contextual menu, except that you can't see what any of the options are until you mouseover the button, which reveals an icon (possibly with a label, I couldn't tell from the low-res video). The way the option buttons are arranged around the circle, the chances of memorizing precisely which button performs what task are minimal, since it's difficult to distinguish between a button at 7:00 and a button at 8:00 (when the number of buttons is not constant, as it is on a clock face, which is why I can tell the difference between 7:00 and 8:00 there).

Compare this to the standard contextual menu. You can see all the menu options at once (unless there are too many to fit on the screen and they scroll), they all have a text label, they could have an icon as well (they usually don't, but certainly should if the concept can be represented in icon form), and the interface is already familiar to nearly everyone.

I mentioned scrolling when there are too many options in the menu. Imagine the radial menu interface with that many options on it. Imagine how long it would take to hunt through them one at a time to find the one you're looking for.

Re:Horrible UI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495991)

Agreed. What struck me most was the alarmingly long delay (while the flashy animation played) between the selection of a sub-menu and it's appearance. That would piss me off instantly.

And besides, standard widgets like context menus should be drawn according to the OS GUI configuration that the user has chosen not whatever bizarre, 'revolutionary' new paradigm the designer has thought up. Especially when that person seems to design entirely Flash driven web-pages for a day job.

What an objective piece (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495467)

... no wait, it wasn't - I was thinking about something else *g*

Aurora was a Netscape project codename (1)

phish (46788) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495613)

The name Aurora was used internally in 96-97 to describe the "push technology" elements of the Netscape 5 browser (code named Constellation). Neither technology shipped. Interesting that Mozilla chooses a name like that considering the history.

Not especially well-received by the Internet (4, Insightful)

JayDiggity (70168) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495635)

Echoing other comments seen around the web...
  • Holy crap, look at all that clutter! Icons everywhere!
  • Not only that, but none of the icons have text in case someone forgets what one of the thousand icons means.
  • What the heck is up with that 3-D mouse? Is Mozilla supposed to invent that?
  • Isn't this just a fancier way to copy-paste a link over Skype and initiate a voice chat with them?
  • This can't possibly just be a Mozilla project. You'd need a whole new OS!
  • Radial menus may work sometimes, but four unlabeled cloverleaves with 5 tiny unlabeled dots that don't reveal their function unless you hover over them?
  • The only worthwhile thing there is turning numbers into graphs. So Mozilla just needs to merge with OpenOffice or something.

Obligatory platform gag (1)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495687)

Will it run on Midori?

I don't think that means what you think it means. (1)

Script Cat (832717) | more than 5 years ago | (#24495713)

As I under stand it, bleeding edge means new but not too new. So bleeding edge is firefox 3 not Aurora. So the correct analogy here is cutting edge or leading edge.

Jeez, you sound like a complete moron when you get it wrong.
Now, make like a tree and get out of here!

What ever happened? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24495937)

To Firefox just being simple, stable and safe? Why get fancy and go down the IE route?

destined for Paleo-Future? (1)

crow5599 (994334) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496041)

Every time one of these new, far-reaching concept videos comes out, I can't help but wonder whether it'll be covered on the Paleo-Future blog [paleo-future.com] in a decade. It's hard not to be pessimistic, considering all the cool concept videos covered in their graveyard.

Good news for space age farmers (1)

Nick Fel (1320709) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496083)

With their increased productivity, I guess Luke can transmit his application to the Academy this year after all!

who's the target audience? (4, Insightful)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 5 years ago | (#24496155)

I can't figure out who this is supposed to be for.

My parents and family would be thoroughly confused by it, as would likely be most other "normal" users.

As a power users, I'm not sure this helps me either. I don't want icons "drifting away" from me, and it doesn't seem to make anything I do any faster.

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