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Violent Video Gaming Comes To the Wii

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the leisure-suit-larry-is-on-the-way dept.

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TuringTest writes "In an attempt to bring the Wii closer to the hardcore gamer's taste, Sega is preparing to release MadWorld, a violent 'hack and slash' game. This has brought attention from family-conscious lobbies: 'The decision to release a violent game on a console which has based its reputation on family fun has shocked anti-violence pressure groups. Mediawatch-UK, Britain's longest-running pressure group campaigning for decency in TV, films and games, said MadWorld will "spoil" the Wii.' The game features black & white cel-shaded graphics, except for the blood blobs which are in brilliant red. MadWorld is announced to be released in early 2009."

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Oooooh Sin City! (5, Funny)

spohnsoftware (963349) | more than 5 years ago | (#24603995)

Did they get Frank Miller to direct?

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (2, Funny)

xpuppykickerx (1290760) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604087)

This was the first thing that came to mind when I read the headlines. I don't think they want to go too far with this game, so violence first, then pretty ladies committing violence in the sequel.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (4, Insightful)

HungryHobo (1314109) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604097)

I've been wishing they'd bring a few more adult oriented games to the wii for a while.
Sure it's a fantastic console for parties and for my nephew but the childish games wear on you after a while for solo gaming.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (5, Funny)

inviolet (797804) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604431)

[...] Sure it's a fantastic console for parties and for my nephew but the childish games wear on you after a while for solo gaming.

When solo gaming gets boring, try switching the controller to your other hand. It feels like it's someone else playing with your wii.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (3, Funny)

blueboy31 (822804) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604535)

When solo gaming gets boring, try switching the controller to your other hand. It feels like it's someone else playing with your wii.

I call it 'The Stranger'!

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (-1, Flamebait)

neokushan (932374) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604601)

And when you get bored of that, you could always try sitting on your wiimote for about 5mins before using it.
Or shove it up your arse, either way you're in for a good time.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (5, Funny)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604591)

I've been wishing they'd bring a few more adult oriented games to the wii for a while.

I completely agree, they're missing on some many "adult-oriented" opportunities with this controller.

Dark Room Sex Game (1)

BPPG (1181851) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604915)

Whoever modded parent 'funny' hasn't heard of Dark Room Sex Game [www.itu.dk][No images, mostly SFW], playable with wiimotes and computers with blue tooth. It's obviously not a Nintendo title. But if there were games similar to this for the console itself, there would be a fair amount of money to be made.

Re:Dark Room Sex Game (1)

BPPG (1181851) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604975)

Side note: I mean, no images on the page linked. Obviously the link that says 'video' will have NSFW sounds.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604775)

Why do people keep making the mistake of calling Violent video games Adult oriented? Most adults are not male between the ages of 12 and 25. Most of the Adults I know tend to play casual games and Ultra Mega Bloodfest IV.
Also please get over it. Resident Evil, Bully, Hitman, and Manhunt all are violent games like this one which we are speaking of.

We live in the world where media targeting 16 year old boys is label "Mature" or "Adult" content.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (4, Funny)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604963)

Why do people keep making the mistake of calling Violent video games Adult oriented? Most adults are not male between the ages of 12 and 25.

you're obviously hanging out with the wrong old ladies.

Re:Oooooh Sin City! (1)

LGagnon (762015) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604777)

No. As you can clearly see, there was not one mention of prostitutes or even women in general (who, if this were a Frank Miller piece, would default to being prostitutes).

2 things (5, Insightful)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604015)

1) are Hitman and Manhunt non-violent games?
2) I want this

Re:2 things (1)

eln (21727) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604223)

Wasn't Call of Duty 3 a launch title for the Wii? Wasn't that violent, or did they replace the machine guns with rainbow launchers and the Nazis with puppies for the Wii version?

Re:2 things (5, Funny)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604807)

We had to chase the teddy bears into their cuddle bunkers, and then tickle them out with machine hugs and fun throwers. They say the more soldiers you tickle, the easier it gets. Well, sir, it doesn't.

(Grandpa Simpson)

Re:2 things (2, Interesting)

greed (112493) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604835)

Heck, Red Steel was featured in the launch ads for the Wii. It may not be the greatest game, but when the guy says "All right, get a gun" and the player starts shooting people, well, I think that's pretty violent.

Maybe that's just 'cause I think shooting people is violent.

And a #1 reason to buy a video game.

Re:2 things (4, Insightful)

Krakhan (784021) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604717)

And then there's other ones too, like the Godfather release, No More Heroes and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon.
It's not hard to find plenty of violent games for the Wii.

Then again, these lobbyists are usually the first in line for lobotomies, so the logic they use is as expected.

A violent game. How shocking. (5, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604023)

This will be quite a change from the very non-violent and family friendly Wii games like "Resident Evil 4", "Alone in the Dark" and "Bully".

How could such a thing happen?

Re:A violent game. How shocking. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604699)

Violence isn't even a problem. Sex and violence is a problem. Horror and violence is a problem. Violence with a graphic, realistic portrayal is a problem. (When I say problem here, I'm talking about it being a problem for some people, not necessarily meaning that it is a problem per se or that I personally have a problem with it.)

Just violence though? Please. My Wii came with a boxing game. Boxing is a violent sport. Super Mario Galaxy? You kill things by jumping on them and hitting them. How is that not violent?

Strangely, violence and disturbing content is not always a problem though: see any SpongeBob game.

Re:A violent game. How shocking. (1)

Minwee (522556) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604923)

Ah, of course. They're more of the sex, violence, and horror style of games. You can do you violence and sex without the horror, and we can do you violence and horror without the sex, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But you can't have sex and horror without the violence.

Manhunt 2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604033)

Ummm, did anyone play Manhunt 2 for the Wii? I actually had to get rid of it after I was done because it was causing genuinely violent thoughts in my head.

Re:Manhunt 2? (3, Funny)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604405)

it was causing genuinely violent thoughts in my head.

against the devs for making such a terrible game?

No more heroes? (5, Informative)

bigattichouse (527527) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604041)

slice dice and blood splatter with a goofy lightsaber, and you have to "jerk off" the wiimote to rebuild your charge? I think adult on wii has already been done.

Re:No more heroes? (3, Informative)

realmolo (574068) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604389)

Exactly.

The reason is, "No More Heroes" wasn't a big hit. Which is unfortunate, because it's one of the top 3 games on the Wii, in my opinion. It's fun, it's raunchy (but not TOO raunchy) and it's hilarious.

Resident Evil? (4, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604045)

WII Release Date: Nov 13, 2007 (US).

If this doesn't qualify as violent, I'm not sure what does...

Re:Resident Evil? (1)

NothingMore (943591) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604635)

Resident evil obviously isnt violent because it is not cell shaded. Nothing is more realistic than cell shaded violence.

Re:Resident Evil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604739)

Do you mean June 13? That's when I got mine...

Crazy idea (5, Insightful)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604063)

Here's a crazy idea: so then they don't have to buy it.

I mean, it's not like they were tricked by some game presented as "Princess Peach Pony Adventures" rated E and discovered a secret level which involved skinning people alive. They know from the start it's a violent game, Sega makes no secret about it, and if their console is really for "family fun" and they have kids... don't buy it.

Crazy talk, I know.

Re:Crazy idea (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604241)

That sounds like a fun game:

"Join Princess Peach and her pony pals as they go on a violent rampage to scalp Bowser"

Re:Crazy idea (1)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604913)

That sounds like a fun game:

"Join Princess Peach and her pony pals as they go on a violent rampage to scalp Bowser"

I call dibs on this intellectual property!

Re:Crazy idea (3, Funny)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604919)

"apocalypse ponies... apocalypse ponies! Punishment for your sins!!!

"Pestilence pony, you're my favorite..." (or was it death pony?)

Re:Crazy idea (1, Flamebait)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604379)

'The decision to release a violent game on a console which has based its reputation on family fun...

The television, the DVD player, and the computer are also known for their family fun, and they can be used to view pr0n!

It's the kind of alarmist, lazy, naive shit from a few clueless cackling hens(such as the PMRC [wikipedia.org] which was spearheaded by TIPPER GORE, wife of Al Gore, so you lefties better keep that in mind next time you bow down to Al because he is your champion...never mind what he allows his wife to get away with) who think that they should decide how we raise our children.

Quoth Stewie Griffin: "...get off your ass and do some damn parenting!".

Re:Crazy idea (2, Insightful)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604725)

never mind what he allows his wife to get away with

Not the best choice of words there, this isn't 1950 where wives need permission from their husband.

Re:Crazy idea (1)

NeuroManson (214835) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604505)

Good going, by making people think, you've just caused a few hundred heads explode. Keep it up and maybe we can get it up to thousands, take that, peaceniks!

Re:Crazy idea (5, Funny)

mc900ftjesus (671151) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604675)

But if your kids ask for it, you have to buy it. Don't you understand that saying "no" to a child makes them hate you forever and scars their emotional development?

Re:Crazy idea (4, Insightful)

MagdJTK (1275470) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604841)

Exactly. I really don't understand how video games are any different from VHS or DVD or the web. All can be used for kid-friendly fun. All can be used to watch people getting killed / touched in rude places.

I don't understand where this whole "games are for kids" thing came from anyhow. The early arcade games (e.g. Space Invaders) which popularised the medium were played by twenty-somethings not pre-teens.

Re:Crazy idea (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604895)

Mediawatch-UK would like to respond to your logical post with the following reply: "Think of the children! Oh, and also 'terrorism.' Yeah, we might be able to shoehorn a terrorism scare in there somehow... I've got it! MadWorld might be used by terrorists in their training! Is it banned yet?"

Re:Crazy idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604903)

OMG PONIES. SWEET!!!

Uh huh... (5, Informative)

MrFancyPants (122224) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604073)

Clearly they missed the (re)release of RE4 [wikipedia.org] for the Wii last year, where one can be beheaded by a chainsaw, among other family friendly things.

Come on people. Really?

Re:Uh huh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604871)

I think they cut down the level of gore for the wii release.

Hey, I am a hardcore gamer (4, Funny)

iamacat (583406) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604081)

I can't wait to see what can be done with vibrating and location-sensing functions of the controller once I strap it on a little differently from usual.

Oh noes!!!11!!! (2, Funny)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604089)

How dare they attempt to make more money by attempting to appeal to a different segment of the market! Just because all of the games released up to the now have been family-friendly, does not mean that there were NEVER any plans to release any other type. That sort of thinking will limit your income possibilities.

Re:Oh noes!!!11!!! (4, Insightful)

randyest (589159) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604369)

Just because all of the games released up to the now have been family-friendly

But that's not even true at all, not even a little bit: Manhunt, Resident Evil, Call of Duty, No More Heroes, Godfather, Scarface, etc.

Re:Oh noes!!!11!!! (1)

Bemopolis (698691) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604695)

In other news, family-conscious lobbies turn their attention to a ban on cars, when it is found that teenagers have sex in them. The fact that most of those teenagers were conceived in them is overlooked due to a chronic inability to perceive irony....

Riiight (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604115)

Let's see. The Wii is available for purchase to most any and all age ranges. There's plenty of family friendly shows on television as well as shows designed for more mature audiences. Do these mature-rated shows ruin all of television for everyone else? I didn't think so.

If you don't want to play a shooter type game on the Wii...then don't purchase it.

Arbitrary boundaries (1)

Exanon (1277926) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604121)

I sort of see the whole "Violent games on the Wii" issue as the video game violence debate in sandbox mode:

It used to be that people were fine with violence in movies (after a while). But then games came along. Interactive violence.
Now, the new and unspoiled ground is the wii (even though there are already violent games on the wii that have gotten a "T" rating). People are used to seeing wii as a friendly console and as such they don't want that image destroyed. They don't care about the fact that they don't HAVE to buy it, it's their own fantasy they want to maintain.

Heck, I can buy Viva Pinata for my 360 period, and then call it a family friendly console. Hypocrisy is the name for this "debate".

Re:Arbitrary boundaries (5, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604441)

Heck, I can buy Viva Pinata for my 360 period, and then call it a family friendly console. Hypocrisy is the name for this "debate".

Viva Piñata? Where you beat crying animals to death and get rewarded with candy, confetti, and cheers? That's family friendly?

Oh, you must mean the part where you can breed piñatas with their siblings and parents with their children.

It'll Spoil the Wii... (5, Insightful)

Bieeanda (961632) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604123)

...in the same way that seeing Janet Jackson's breast on live television turned their children into sex-crazed maniacs.

Oh, wait. That's what puberty did.

Re:It'll Spoil the Wii... (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604317)

If anything, Janet Jackson would be more likely to turn their child off toward sex for a very long time...

Re:It'll Spoil the Wii... (1)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604659)

If anything, Janet Jackson would be more likely to turn their child off toward sex for a very long time...

Wait wasn't that the whole point of fining her? I mean there's a whole generation of virgins out there thanks to her.

Were the lobby groups sponsored by Sega? (4, Insightful)

wisty (1335733) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604129)

Just wondering, do 'controversial' companies sponsor these lobby groups (and maybe even help write the press releases) as a free publicity stunt? I'd be somewhat surprised if they didn't.

Don't want Wii Spoiled? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604141)

Then don't buy it.

Doesn't work that way (5, Insightful)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604765)

Just like letting gays get married will somehow ruin marriage for everyone else. Having a violent video game on Wii will ruin it for everyone. (as if Manhunt 2, Call of Duty 3, etc weren't already on the Wii).

There is a certain personality type that wants to "protect" the lifestyles of other people by projecting their own values onto the rest of the world. And they believe they cannot be happy until everyone else shares their world view.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604145)

If you don't like it, then don't buy it.
Problem solved.

Hand-wringing at it's finest. (1)

Boogaroo (604901) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604147)

Oh no! A game I'd never buy will SPOIL my console!!!!!1

Attention "decency" advocacy groups: People would listen to you if you actually made some sense.

Stupid Lobbyists (1)

Tabernaque86 (1046808) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604171)

If you're so afraid it's going to corrupt your pure gaming system, then just don't buy the damn game. Just because it's released doesn't mean anyone is forcing you to buy it and/or play it.

In the meantime, stop trying to deprive the rest of the world of options we desire.

Ooooh, how unique! (4, Informative)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604179)

It's not like there aren't other games rated M on the Wii. No More Heroes [wikipedia.org] is the first that comes to mind. There's also the Resident Evil series, I think Godfather and Scarface were ported over, etc.

From the video, the only unique thing about this game is the decision to make everything black and white but for the blood, which is bright red. Fewer colors is now a feature!

Overall, a pretty lame publicity grab. "Our game is so hardcore your mom won't let you buy it!" What they don't say is "Our game is so boring you won't play it after the novelty wears off and you've shown it to all of your friends."

Daily mail PR grab (2, Interesting)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604791)

Overall, a pretty lame publicity grab.

If anyone's making a publicity grab, it's the Daily Mail. The last we saw them on Slashdot, they had come up with a dubious iPhone Nano rumour. They're making a reach for online marketshare by coming up with nonsense and starting storms in teacups, basically taking their approach to newspaper sales but applying it their website. This is a publication which runs features demonising games at random intervals [rllmukforum.com] because it gives them something other than Jews, gays and foreigners [wikipedia.org] to attack. They are the ones who probably egged Mediawatch into it in the first place.

Publisher-mandated coverage of the game in the UK peaked a few months ago when it was an Edge cover story. If they are deliberately courting controversy, they've done a poor job of it.

Oh for the love of... (1)

PJCRP (1314653) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604265)

Pressure groups sometimes makes me want to go get a Caution Sign and stab it through someones head.

"spoil" the Wii.'

Call me stupid, but aren't you supposed to get permission (licensing rights) from Nintendo first (logo's, usage etc) before you develop a game?
Just wondering, since I have no idea how that works

I don't see what the big deal is... (4, Insightful)

stephanruby (542433) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604277)

This is not TV. This is not even a cable channel that comes as part of a premium package. It's still a game that must be purchased separately. I don't see what the big deal is.

Re:I don't see what the big deal is... (1)

Spatial (1235392) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604939)

What?! Stop examining the situation sensibly, you must be OUTRAGED. Disengage your logical hooks, heretic! Think of the children! Do not think of the difference between reality and fiction! GRRR! That makes you angry! Use lots of exclamation marks!

Who cares what they think? (5, Funny)

Phat_Tony (661117) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604285)

The thing is, who cares? We can piss-off these anti-violence people all we want, and what are they going to do about it?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Re:Who cares what they think? (1)

PJCRP (1314653) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604331)

and what are they going to do about it?

At first I was going to say 'Streisand effect', but 'Rockstar effect' works better in this situation

Re:Who cares what they think? (1)

lottameez (816335) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604685)

We can piss-off these anti-violence people all we want, and what are they going to do about it?
So if I understand this...you're challenging anti-violence people to a fight? Maybe there is a lesson here....

Re:Who cares what they think? (1)

NickFBB (1344791) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604949)

The thing is, who cares? We can piss-off these anti-violence people all we want, and what are they going to do about it?

Gain enough momentum to influence, in this case, the BBFC's decision on whether or not to release the game?

Light-hearted brutality... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604323)

To give you an example from gameplay, we have a scene where you can pull a street sign from the ground and shove it into a enemy's head. However, I thought that it is much more fun to stab someone with a sign that actually has some sort of meaning as opposed to a knife. We tried the idea out, and the reaction amongst the team was so positive, I knew this was the way to proceed.

Well, the anti-violence pressure groups obviously need add to their idea of "family fun" that according to Sega "it is much more fun to stab someone with a sign that actually has some sort of meaning" (from the official game website linked in TFSubmission).

man, what a day! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604327)

first we learn that apple is going to die from competition and now the entire wii platform is now ruined because of some cheap third party game. who knows, tomorrow microsoft may just lose half it's marketshare to amiga.

Not impressed. (1)

mrdoogee (1179081) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604339)

We already went through this with Manhunt. Unfortunately that probably means that in order to cater to the whiners the violence will be nerfed.

Re:Not impressed. (1)

bothwell (1272132) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604741)

the violence will be nerfed.

Haha, I doubt it. They can't nerf the entire stated purpose of the game.

Some things this lobby needs to realize (1)

magus_melchior (262681) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604373)

1. The game console is not your babysitter. If you have the time, patience, and dedication to screen every byte of a game for sanitary access to your babies' eyes, more power to you, but assuming that every household and every console owner is like you is both arrogant and ludicrous.
2. You have the option of not buying the game, and enforcing it by saying "No" to your child if s/he begs for it, and punishing the child if s/he obtains it behind your back. But use the opportunity to tell him you don't want the child to become desensitized to violence (or whatever) if you can, as a flat refusal will only encourage the child to disobey you. Play with your kids! I hear Smash Brothers Brawl is a blast.
3. The gaming industry, even Nintendo, has never been a "safe haven" for children from the very beginning; Nintendo, to my recollection, never marketed the Wii as a family-only console (just family-friendly). The only "safe haven" parents do (and should) create is in their homes, hopefully more as a real plan and practice rather than an illusion in their heads.

To summarize: Wishing something were true has no effect on reality.

Spoil the Wii? (1)

ElboRuum (946542) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604395)

How on earth can this possibly "spoil" a console specifically conceived and designed to have a broader-based appeal than to just traditional gamers? Did Ward and June Cleaver think that this meant all games would be family friendly (read: having appeal to only the by 3-6 year old demographic)? I assume that "traditional gamers" who may like their content a little more on the... ahem... "mature" side are included in this broad base of appeal.

If anything, the progression of some violent games to the Wii console represents a step toward the realization of broad-based appeal rather than spoiling the console.

Denial (1)

nawcom (941663) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604409)

Some people haven't accepted the fact that adults play games. Remember those cute little cartoony games that your little kid played on the NES? Well, he/she's 20 now, and an adult. He or she still likes to play games. Developers see this fact, and design games with a realistic and mature environment. Don't like it? Get over it. You don't get everything your own way in life; hopefully your grown-up children have learned differently.

Meh. Sounds tame compared to existing Wii games. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604461)

"Consider for one moment that in Manhunt 2 you can, Wii remote and nunchuk in hands, use a pair of pliers to clamp onto an enemy's testicles..."

Google it.

Hooray (1)

mikkelm (1000451) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604523)

WiiMurder! Video games will at last be murder simulators outside of the crooked minds of sensationalistic journalists and "think of the children" politicians!

Cartoons on the Wii (1)

IBBoard (1128019) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604525)

How can these people complain. Being cartoon graphics (cel-shaded cartoons) then how can the Wii not be its best home? The XBox 360 and the PS3 fight it out for realism, the Wii wins on fun and cartoon.

If only these people could complain about something more worthwhile, like the fact that the real problem is the badly brought up children and not the game.

Two things I've noticed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604543)

...is the fact that the "concerned publications" printing stuff never mention that the Wii can be set so that it will refuse to play this game.

The other is this quote, "I hope the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) will view this with concern and decide it should not be granted a classification," is coming from that pressure group which has not played the game.

For those of you that don't know, this is the same group of people that created Okami. Which is proof enough to me that this game is capable of being more than just shock violence. I don't see why this game is something that isn't capable of having a brain.

John Beyer of MediaWatch-UK (1)

NickFBB (1344791) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604633)

The guy is one of those Christian crusaders for decency; he wrote an article a ways back entitled 'Releasing the stranglehold of the secular' for the New Voice, a Christian broadcasting journal.

Here's an excerpt:

"The challenge that must be addressed, surely, is how to release the secular stranglehold on prime time television and radio and bathe in the light of Christ programming that occupies the screen in most households most nights of the week." GROAN.

I've listed some more information about it on bitburo.net. [bitburo.net] I hope the BBFC [bbfc.co.uk] doesn't take this whackjob seriously.

Hardcore gamer (3, Interesting)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604733)

Yes, I am one of those dirty filthy casuals that plays games to *gasp *horror* *shock* enjoy them. I tend to like the games that have innovative and fun gameplay. Unique visual audio styles are a plus.

Perhaps I'm just too old for the current definition of hardcore games and hardcore gamers but what I don't really get is how the number of pixels pushed or the volume of blood makes a game for the hardcore gamer.

I'd expect the hardcore gamer to want intricate and complex yet responsive control schemes that reward having faster-than-framerate reactions. Requiring six liquid cooled video cards just to render the game on its lowest setting or requiring a TARDIS built into the circulatory system of every mook to handle the amount of blood they spray when killed doesn't mean its "hardcore" to me. It generally says its cheaper to hire graphic designers than it is people capable of putting together a solid game.

Is this for real.... (1)

apexdawn (915478) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604753)

Of course I was waiting for a thinkofthechildren or thinkofthewiis tag for this story :P

-Reed

Will this mean new Wii Hardware devices? (4, Funny)

Freshly Exhumed (105597) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604783)

Imagine the Wii hardware addons that might come out of this:

Wii Truncheon
Wii Dagger
Wii Battle Axe
Wii Whoopass Stick

Stupid protesters (1)

Tragedy4u (690579) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604785)

By kicking up a ruckus and causing a news story, they've given the game free advertising and guaranteed that the kids they want to protect...will only want this game even more.

They've Got It All Wrong (4, Interesting)

WamBam (1275048) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604803)

I'm not a big Wii fan and part of that is due to the fact its games don't interest me. However, I don't like that hardcore gaming is being equated with violence (and inevitably, sex). The Wii does come across as sort of a child-centric system to me but adding titles with blood won't necessarily make me think of it as more mature and won't make me think of it as 'hardcore'.

Personally, I don't think it gets more hardcore then Civilization. There's very little, if any, blood in the game but it's the complexity of the gameplay and the dedication one has have for it that makes it something of an elite gaming experience. If we 'hardcore' gamers don't demand complexity and innovation in games then all we're going to get is Halo/GTA clones.

I take it no one saw "No More Heroes" then... (1)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604893)

A game which starts out with the F bomb being dropped followed by two decapitations with blood spurting everywhere all in the first 5 seconds of the game.

Ridiculous (4, Insightful)

Eravnrekaree (467752) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604909)

While I do not enjoy violent games the notions that this game will "ruin" the wii is absolutely absurd. Will users of the wii be forced to play the game? Of course not. If you dont like the game dont play it.

Parental control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24604971)

Well, it's too bad the Wii doesn't have any parental control options.

Oh, wait...

Aye! (1)

Joseph Hayes (982018) | more than 5 years ago | (#24604985)

Hack... Slash.... Stops...

"was that a chunk of brain matter or a severed testicle, the texture resolution was too low to tell"

furthermore, a game specifically for debuting violence content to a mostly kid's console doesn't sound like it's gonna be anything I check out

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