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Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Abduction

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the human-Lojack dept.

Privacy 306

Because the number of abductions in Mexico has jumped almost 40% in the past 3 years, the wealthy are getting subcutaneous transmitters so they can be tracked when kidnapped. Xega, the Mexican security firm which makes the chips, has seen a sales jump of 13% this year. The company injects the crystal-encased chip, the size and shape of a grain of rice, into clients' bodies with a syringe. The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it. A satellite can then be used to find the location of the missing person. Things must be a lot worse in Mexico than I thought.

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Please make it stop (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711623)

Oh.. the humanity...

Re:Please make it stop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711891)

In related news, has anyone else noticed strange behavior recently? I use FF2 and usually set my user agent to IE so I can disable D2 without logging in; that seems to not be working right now for some reason. So I manually disable D2 (no_d2=1 in the query string) and now the text box to post comments in is ridiculously small for some reason. I have both AdBlock and NoScript (the ONLY way to browse), so I tried disabling those; same results. I don't like D2, but I can live with it. Whoever was involved with creating "Idle", however, deserves immediate, painful, and humiliating death.

Wonderful (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711653)

Great. Now when you're kidnapped the first thing they'll do is cut off a chunk of your flesh. Or even just stick you in a metallic sack so that the radio signal can't escape.

Re:Wonderful (5, Insightful)

Freeside1 (1140901) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711769)

The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

Or they can just smash the 'device' to bits. I fail to see the utility of this system.

Re:Wonderful (1)

Devout_IPUite (1284636) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712033)

They might not even try snatching people who are seen carrying the 'device'. They'll instead go after girls who don't have one of these on display. Likely.

Re:Wonderful (2, Insightful)

davester666 (731373) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712361)

Or the opposite. Anybody carrying one of these devices thinks of themselves as being wealthy and/or important. That is like having a tattoo on your forehead saying "Kidnap Me".

And of course, once kidnapped the external device is destroyed. And if the implanted device has any significant range [say, more than 1 room, so it may be detected outside the room where you are held], the implant also gets dug out. So, if you're lucky, you will be ransomed quickly, so you can get some antibiotics to kill the infection...

Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (5, Insightful)

SengirV (203400) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711661)

The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (5, Funny)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711699)

Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

You're just too cynical.

In other news, I had a personal transportation chip injected into my feet. So long as I'm occupying a moving vehicle, it works perfectly at transporting me around.

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (4, Funny)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711727)

Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

That would depend on where they're hiding it...

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711879)

Especially since you don't want them rooting around in your ass, or doing a "Choco number" (Domino Harvey, character's arm-removal technique...)

Hell, may as well carry $2m in cash card and gamble on being kidnapped no more than 4 times...

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712245)

Good news everyone. It's a supository!

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (1)

ksd1337 (1029386) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712441)

Now we know what Goatse is. That guy's a billionaire that just wants to insert the device.

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (2, Funny)

robmv (855035) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712379)

and after I read your comment, you signature crossed my mind as "My inner cavity..."

In you're in the same asylum, aren't you? (-1, Troll)

BitterOldGUy (1330491) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711751)

The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

Call me crazy, but I think I found a flaw in their system.

Katherine Albrecht, a U.S. consumer privacy activist, says the chip is a flashy, overpriced gadget that only identifies a person and cannot locate someone without another, bigger GPS device that kidnappers can easily find and destroy.

Go down the hall in the asylum, and ask Katherine about her new meds.

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (1)

smith6174 (986645) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712153)

What exactly is the point of the implant in this system? Isn't the GPS device doing all the work? Sounds like just another excuse to put chips in people. Why don't we wait for a success story, like maybe 1 single victim located by the device.

Re:Hmmm, what could be the problem here? (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712297)

I won't call you crazy. People who don't feel secure (and if you're a middle-to-upper-class person in Mexico, you have much reason to feel insecure! [google.com]) are easily taken in by gimmicks like this.

Even if the GPS thing were built into the chip, what good would it do? The first thing kidnappers would do would be to dig it out.

All aboard the clue train. (5, Insightful)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711711)

Things must be a lot worse in Mexico than I thought.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention. Kidnapping is an entire industry in countries south of the Rio Grande, especially in Mexico and Brazil, and has been for at least a decade.

Re:All aboard the clue train. (1)

sponga (739683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712375)

So what is your solution to help solve some of the kidnappings?

I know it is trendy to criticize things here on Slashdot and right after not provide a solution to the problem.

In fact somebody has been paying attention and the reason they made these.

I always thought that would be a good idea to put a radio tag implanted in them randomly if they were a high opportunity target and than fly over the city with a helicopter until you get close to it after the kidnapping. Like tracking a bear in the wild or something.

Kidnappings in Mexico are on the rise and they are even trying to kidnap people in Arizona across the border. There really are no other solid solutions to this problem, although I can see limbs being chopped off because they think theres a radio transmitter.

I am not worried about the Govt. wanting to probe me up the ass because I have one of these, I would be more worried about the kidnappers trying to get me.

I just hope the Mexicans have higher standards and will not tolerate this crap like what they do down in South America. Good thing they have brought the military into Tijuana and other states around there to clamp down on some of the drug cartels and kidnappings.

Re:All aboard the clue train. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712387)

There is no kidnapping in Brazil since the 80's. That happened the same time it happened in Colombia. Was the time when the drug cartels were building their power so they need money to finance weapons and soldiers.
Now that Brazil has became a rich country, the drug cartels just make money selling cocaine to the elites on the big cities, pretty much like in the United States.
Brazil is not Mexico. Brazilian economy is ten times bigger than Mexico's. Have you ever heard about the BRIC? Probably you watching too many B movies...

I am skeptical (1)

heteromonomer (698504) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711719)

It won't be long before the thugs figure out a way to scan for those devices and try to get rid of them. Or simpler still, threaten the victim to show where it is and allow them to excise it out.

Bogus News To Lure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711725)

brain dead U.S. residents into getting chipped so they can be tracked by this Organized Crime Syndicate [whitehouse.org].

Re:Bogus News To Lure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711821)

You did realize that the link you provided is a parody site, eh?

Re:Bogus News To Lure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712031)

YHBT, HAND.

Re:Bogus News To Lure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712127)

Who will troll the trolls?

Nice when the victims make it easy to find them... (1)

vanyel (28049) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711731)

I'll bet organized crime has the trackers faster than the police do. Probably stolen *from* the police...

Re:Nice when the victims make it easy to find them (3, Interesting)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711777)

I thought in mexico the police and "the organization" are one and the same.

So exactly what is the implant for? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711735)

If you need to carry a "larger device" with you to send the signal, why do you need an implant?

Re:So exactly what is the implant for? (2, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711841)

What exactly is the implant for? My guess is squeezing another couple grand out of scared rich folk.

Re:So exactly what is the implant for? (5, Funny)

markana (152984) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711887)

It's simple.

If they get thrown in jail, then can dig the implants out of their arms, and use them to make a primitive laser to cut open the lock.

Of course, it takes 2 implants, and a piece of an old bedframe....

Re:So exactly what is the implant for? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712101)

My guess is that if the implant can no longer communicate with the larger device, a trigger goes off to notify the service to start looking for that person in the last known location. After that, you're really working with a perimeter that grows by time.

Mij

Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Abduc (1)

www.upfuse.com (1349655) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711745)

It's a pity they have to go to this extreme to get security.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (1, Insightful)

nickhart (1009937) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711803)

It's a result of gross class inequality--which is the REAL pity.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712057)

Really, it's the result of the War on Drugs.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (1)

ElectricTurtle (1171201) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712209)

It is neither the War on Drugs nor "class inequality". While I think the War on Drugs is mostly retarded, it's not as though if that were to stop tomorrow kidnapping would stop with it. There's no correlation at all. And as for class inequality, please. That exists everywhere on earth, and the wealthiest people sure as hell don't live in Mexico.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (1)

spud603 (832173) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712399)

Mexico has among the highest income inequality in the world [nationmaster.com]. I'd argue that income inequality is pretty tightly correlated with class inequality (large factor).
Combine that with corruption and the US's `economic' policies toward Mexico and I think there's a good argument for class inequality being a big part of the issue.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712443)

Er, well, not quite true. According to this list [wikipedia.org] the second wealthiest person in the world lives in Mexico. So does the person ranked 87th in the world.

Re: Wealthy Mexicans Getting Chipped in Case of Ab (3, Insightful)

ChibiOne (716763) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712171)

No. It is the result of impunity and corrpution of the police.

These thugs are not humble, starving individuals trying to feed their families. They are well organized criminal bands, with links to corrupt current (or ex) cops, who know that given the inefficient and corrupt justice system that prevails, know they can and will get away with it.

Google for the Fernando Marti kidnapping and murder to get a glimpse of what's currently happening down here in Mexico.

Say again? (2, Insightful)

hansraj (458504) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711747)

The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

Huh? What are these people smoking?

Also, why is it on Idle and not on, say, science?

Re:Say again? (1)

dolmant_php (461584) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712135)

> Huh? What are these people smoking?

> Also, why is it on Idle and not on, say, science?

I think you answered your own question.

What happens when... (5, Insightful)

pwnies (1034518) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711755)

a common thief finds a way to access the positions of all of these rich people. Seems to me an easy way to establish targets, not protect them.

This is why. (4, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711761)

This is why we should put more R&D in implanting Laser Eyes. Whos gonna kidnap you if you can shoot lasers out of your eyes.

Re:This is why. (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711849)

Whos gonna kidnap you if you can shoot lasers out of your eyes.

The only problem is finding a fishbowl small enough to carry but big enough to hold a shark.

ewww (4, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711763)

i hope buyers realize that all they are doing is changing kidnapping standard operating procedure

kidnappers will now locate the chip probably with nothing more than a $20 standard wall stud finder, then reach into the victim's skin with sharp nosed dirty pliers and toss the chip on the street. then probably send the victim's family a picture of the gaping wound for proof of untraceability and bonus horror factor

ewwww

Re:ewww EWWWW... (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712043)

Or, they might pull a "The Recruit" and attach the tracker to a dog (or, ewwww, stick it in the dog's ass). Finding THAT dog might be easy withOUT the tracker... just look for a crab-walking dog (no, I don't have experience in such matters, but I have a vivid imagination...)

Maybe it's better to put a "kill switch" into the tracker so the kidnapped can "suicide" if not rescued in under 10 hours. This switch could be a non-metallic, subcutaneous toxic strip they have to tap (3 times?) or pinch. Even if the family never ever gets the body, at least the kidnapped can end things on their own terms (unless bound and strapped to deny activating the pressure strip...)

Hell. If that level of lawlessness persists, they might end up like on Eminiar VII in Star Trek's "A Taste of Armageddon"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_booth [wikipedia.org]

But, i am sure they will disintegrate happily if Kirk is not there doing his inflections and intonations and such...

Schadenfreude (2, Insightful)

Nymz (905908) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712185)

This is on Idle (our offtopic humor/meme/viral video/pictures section) because:
- Once abducted, you have plenty of 'idle' time. (clever joke)
- Slashdot editors think abductions are funny when they happen to Mexicans. (Schadenfreude) [wikipedia.org]

Re:ewww (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712233)

i hope buyers realize that all they are doing is changing kidnapping standard operating procedure

kidnappers will now locate the chip probably with nothing more than a $20 standard wall stud finder, then reach into the victim's skin with sharp nosed dirty pliers and toss the chip on the street. then probably send the victim's family a picture of the gaping wound for proof of untraceability and bonus horror factor

ewwww

Since they usually implant them in the arm it'd just be easier to remove the whole arm then you can send it to the relatives so they can check finger prints and DNA. Also it'll leave them with a keepsake if they can't raise the ransom money.

Re:ewww (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712383)

There is a place for the horror factor in this business apparently...it's great for convincing the family to pay up sooner. There is a recent case (it happened within the last year) of a Plastics Surgery practice run by a father and son team of MD's working out of Baja catering to US patients looking for bargain basement prices on their cosmetics procedures. They were making big bucks putting up their patients in a Luxury Spa Resort just south of Rosarito (10 miles south of the Tiajuana/US Border) where they could get their various facelifts, tummy tucks, etc for half of what they would pay in the US. Problem is, the Dad and Son had a thing for big fancy cars and showing off how much money they were making. That drew the wrong kind of attention. The son was kidnapped, and the kidnappers sent a finger every few days until the family paid up... They paid up as quickly as they could (it takes time to convert your assets to cash you know) and the son was returned, but not before losing all but the pinky finger on his right hand. Makes it hard to operate that way I'm afraid. Between stuff like this and the war between the Cartels the Federales, none of my friends go surfing down there anymore.

Re:ewww (1)

fyoder (857358) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712439)

then reach into the victim's skin with sharp nosed dirty pliers and toss the chip on the street. then probably send the victim's family a picture of the gaping wound for proof of untraceability and bonus horror factor

Better still, just send the device itself. It could lead investigators a merry chase through the postal system, and would be a clearer and less unpleasant identifier than a body part.

Great idea, but... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711765)

Putting this in your kid as a anti-kidnapping measure isn't the greatest idea. The kidnappers will just start cutting off fingers until the kid tells them where the tracking device is, then they'll cut that out too.

We're talking about kidnappers here folks- if they're willing to steal your friggin' kid, they aren't going to have qualms about removing tracking devices with a box cutter.

Useless (1)

Yossarian45793 (617611) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711775)

Why not just carry the larger device with the GPS and transmitter and forget about the injectable chip? Either way you get the same protection. Unless of course you're relying on criminals being stupid in which case you might be able to convince them that the satellite can actually track the injectable chip.

Re:Useless (1)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711809)

I think the idea is that if you get near someone elses GPS/transmitter rig that they too carry that it will start sending your RFID tag data to the satellites also...just a guess.

Re:Useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712191)

I think the idea is that if you get near someone elses GPS/transmitter rig that they too carry that it will start sending your RFID tag data to the satellites also...just a guess.

RFIDs have a very short range, under 450 feet. If you are that close to a working one of these GPS units that isn't yours, maybe you should just yell for help.

Investing ideas (1, Troll)

BitterOldGUy (1330491) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711789)

Xega sees kidnapping as a growth industry and is planning to expand its services next year to Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela.

Sweet! Now I know where to move my 401K money! I need to find the ticker symbol though. Let's see KDNPP, nope, KIDN, nope, NAP, no...

Cure the symptom, not the disease? (0)

LGagnon (762015) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711835)

Here's an idea: Instead of wasting money, time, and medical work on chipping the rich, how about fixing the poverty crisis in Mexico? You know, the main source of crime? I'll never understand why the wealthy waste so much money on security when it would be better spent on decreasing/ending the problems that tend to cause crime in the first place. It'd work a lot better in the long run, especially since chipping won't protect them against the next tortilla riot.

Now we're getting somewhere. (1)

BitterOldGUy (1330491) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711985)

I've wondered about that myself. Here's a country that has a shit load of oil, great tourism trade, and like China, has a bunch of manufacturing from the US. So what's the deal? Why is there so much poverty. So, I started think'n. Not a good idea usually, but never the less, it happens.

Mostly a dysfunctional and corrupt Government. But why do the people allow it to stay in power?

That's because the rich folks like it that way. Mexico has a HUGE disparity between rich and poor (we're getting there ourselves) and one of the reasons is because the rich are rich and they want to stay that way.

What will change it? A revolution. It may not have to be bloody, but a huge shake up. Maybe, they can get away with a small one like we had in the 1930s. But, Mexico will need their own Roosevelt. Now, I know there's some criticism about him and how his policies didn't necessarily do anything. But that's not the point. The point is folks perceived a change. The thought that finally, there needs were being addressed.

I'd rather have to give half my wealth away then have all of it taken away. -- Joseph P. Kennedy.

No, I don't think WWII bailed us out. But that's another post.

Re:Now we're getting somewhere. (2, Insightful)

ChibiOne (716763) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712331)

But that's not the point. The point is folks perceived a change. The thought that finally, there needs were being addressed.

After 70+ years of the same authoritarian, corrupt, one-party PRI government, we thought change and democracy had finally arrived when oposing party's Vicente Fox became president in 2000. The only change that we got was that the corrupt officials were now from PAN party instead of PRI. And the 2006 elections managed only to divide the population thinking the other side was the enemy, thanks to pseudo-left wing party PRD.

OUr government officials, wheter from PRI, PAN or PRD, are only interested in power for their party, not the people's good. Once they get the votes, they forget about their promises and spend their terms living off our taxes.

Why do we let it happen? The System is corrupt at its marrow. As you say, a true leader is needed. PRD's Andres Lopez deceived everyone into thinkink he was the one, yet after his loss, all his actions show that he was only interested in power for power's sake. Same for incumbent President Calderon. They are all the same.

Wrong way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712447)

Poverty does not cause crime. Crime causes poverty!

Do not think that most poor Buddhist subsistence farmers are criminal class.

Wait, what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711869)

The chip then sends radio signals to a larger device carried by the client with a global positioning system in it.

WTF is the implant for? This sounds like SPOT [findmespot.com] which provides real-time satellite tracking and the ability to send 3 levels of messages (I'm okay, Help, and Emergency). And it doesn't cost nearly as much or require injecting stuff into the user.

Re:Wait, what? (2, Insightful)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711995)

I had almost the exact same reaction - if the chip needs an external device, wth is the chip actually doing that couldn't just be in the external device.

Also, If I kidnap some rich kid, the first thing I'm doing is tossing his cell phone, mp3 player, gameboy, and any other electronics that might secretly be tracking me, into the nearest garbabe can, or hell, just dump it on the sidewalk or street.

Things are worse than you thought... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711875)

A 14 year old boy was recently kidnapped in Mexico in broad daylight at a police "checkpoint". His father reportedly paid over a million dollars to the kidnappers to try to get him back. The boys chauffeur and bodyguard were found shortly thereafter in the trunk of a car strangled to death. The 14 year old boys bullet riddled decomposing body was found shortly after that in the trunk of another car. Mexican police officers are believed to be complicit (helping with these kidnappings) in many of these cases and therefore the general public does not trust them. You can read more here...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/latinamerica/la-fg-mexcrime22-2008aug22,0,5318804.story?track=rss

The name of the 14 year old boy who was kidnapped and murdered was Fernando Marti.

This technology was mentioned (3, Interesting)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711921)

In a Brazilian movie called Manda Bala [imdb.com] . Abductions are a thriving industry in São Paulo, Brazil, and the movie focuses on the common practice of cutting off all or part of a hostage's ear (or finger) in order to expedite a ransom payment.

It is a generally thought provoking movie, with several memorable interviews, and at least some discussion of root causes of the problem (corruption in government among them, although the government of Luiz "Lula" da Silva [wikipedia.org] may be making progress against it, despite so far losing the battle to protect protected areas of Amazon wilderness [mongabay.com] - a problem also intimately connected with corruption).

However the movie is deeply marred by the inclusion of the anonymous São Paulo businessman, "Mr M" - a self-obsessed, vacuous nitwit, apparently American and perhaps a conveniently interviewable associate of the American filmmaker? whose ego was no doubt unduly boosted by his part in the film. Unfortunately, whatever this individual had to say about being "chipped" is unlikely to betray any insights: In a city known for violent carjackings, this guy's response was to bulletproof his ostentatious Porsche, instead of simply driving a less conspicuous car. I stopped caring about his fate very early into the film; one is tempted to say he need not worry about being kidnapped as nobody would miss him to pay a ransom.

Re:This technology was mentioned (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712109)

In a city known for violent carjackings, this guy's response was to bulletproof his ostentatious Porsche, instead of simply driving a less conspicuous car

What's the point in being rich if you can't spend it? In his place I'd do exactly the same.

If you have money that was legally earned, you owe no apologies to anyone, you are entitled to it. Do you think the law allows some immoral ways to earn money? Change the law. I see no point in criticizing people just because they have money.

Re:This technology was mentioned (1)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712495)

If you want to spend your (allegedly honestly earned) money ostentatiously, I recommend Monaco over São Paulo on common sense grounds. (If we rewind to the premise of the article: Kidnapping is a real risk for the wealthy in some countries.)

I didn't criticise him because he had money. I criticised him for being vapid, obnoxious and foolish; being rich exempts no-one from those faults, as your celebrity culture dazzlingly proves. And he almost ruined an otherwise intelligent film.

Statistics! (1)

toomanyairmiles (838715) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711929)

It's pretty dreadful in Mexico in 1992 there were 46 reported kidnappings, by 1999 there were 402 kidnappings a year - columbia is worse in 1992 there were 464 kidnappings by 1999 that had risen to 972!

You can also get some data on average payouts here [castlerock...tional.com] - just in casehttp://danger.mongabay.com/kidnapping_stats.htm you need to update your KRE insurance.

Guess who's sponsoring these? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711951)

The USA, need to track those 'kidnappees' in case they 'sneak' over the Mexico-US border!!

fear fear fear (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711953)

I wish people would stop being so afraid of everything

if people stopped being afraid, (0, Offtopic)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712077)

It would be so much harder to manipulate elections. Then people would be able to think about actual issues instead of electing the Repub^W guy who promises to magically get rid of all the bad people. [iht.com]

Anyway, Americans only need to turn off the TV, and shun Hollywood: That's where crime and violence 24 hours a day (whether news or fiction) is designed to keep you all in a continuous state of fear. And it's working beautifully. In America (and its satellite states), strangers are terrified of each other. That's not true of many other countries and cultures, and we can blame Rupert Murdoch for the global infantilisation and tabloid-isation of media that could be used for intelligent and progressive purposes.

Re:if people stopped being afraid, (1)

FormerUpper (908582) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712229)

It would be so much harder to manipulate elections. Then people would be able to think about actual issues instead of electing the Repub^W guy who promises to magically get rid of all the bad people. [iht.com]

Anyway, Americans only need to turn off the TV, and shun Hollywood: That's where crime and violence 24 hours a day (whether news or fiction) is designed to keep you all in a continuous state of fear. And it's working beautifully. In America (and its satellite states), strangers are terrified of each other. That's not true of many other countries and cultures, and we can blame Rupert Murdoch for the global infantilisation and tabloid-isation of media that could be used for intelligent and progressive purposes.

It would be so much harder to manipulate elections. Then people would be able to think about actual issues instead of electing the Repub^W guy who promises to magically get rid of all the bad people. [iht.com]

Anyway, Americans only need to turn off the TV, and shun Hollywood: That's where crime and violence 24 hours a day (whether news or fiction) is designed to keep you all in a continuous state of fear. And it's working beautifully. In America (and its satellite states), strangers are terrified of each other. That's not true of many other countries and cultures, and we can blame Rupert Murdoch for the global infantilisation and tabloid-isation of media that could be used for intelligent and progressive purposes.

Not true of other countries? Like Mexico? RTFA

Not so fast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711955)

Fine., the police find you and the criminals, but how much will the police demand of the ransom money not to take you hostage again ?

Unfortunate accompanying image (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24711959)

When the thumbnail image of the thumbnail image loaded on the front page, I thought it was an object being inserted into someone's pee-hole. I'm not going to be able to unthink that (and now, dear reader, neither are you), so I'm going to have to hide Idle stories from the front page...

OK I must be missing something... (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711965)

so... as well as the inmplanted chip the abductee also has to carry a separate GPS transmitter? In which case I'm not seeing the point of the implant...

urk.... (2, Funny)

thermian (1267986) | more than 5 years ago | (#24711973)

Maybe its because of my background in nursing, but, um, the lower finger in the picture didn't look like a finger to me on first glance...

I'd say what it did look like, but I don't know what the slashdot filters are like. Lets just say I had to remove a soup spoon handle from one once during a shift on casualty and leave it at that.

Maybe I'm stupid... (1)

Keeper (56691) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712007)

But what's the point of having a chip implanted when an external device is still required?

Isn't this (1)

Markvs (17298) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712021)

Straight out of the Cyberpunk 2020 rulebook? What they really need to chip those afraid of kidnapping is 7 levels of unarmed combat and a few of evasion...

No kidnapping necessary now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712051)

Just modify a shoulder launched missile to home in on the beacon.

You have 2 hours to send the money or we blow up one of your chipped family members.

Remember radio range is just a function of gain at my end. I get a big dish in the back of a fiberglass van get the initial target and range.
Fire the missile, it picks up the close in beacon at 100'.
Boom.

A person concerned the right target was engaged would want eyeballs on the target to confirm the tracking at some point reasonably close to launch time.

Re:No kidnapping necessary now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712123)

Rather than your crazy plan full of bells and whistles why not just aim the missile at their fucking house?

Scram! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712105)

No need to dig out the chip or smash the extra "device", just scramble the frequencies it relies on.

A note from here in Mexico (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24712175)

A note from here in Mexico:

I had a student once tell me she doesn't want to go to the US because, as you know, there are hundreds of nutcase students with guns who kill classmates at random.

Kidnapping is the Mexican version of the same thing. It happens, at most, extremely rarely. You are far more likely, for example, to get hit by a car crossing the street or to die in an auto accident than to be kidnapped. However, it's the kind of news that makes for great headlines.

What doesn't make for great headlines is the fact that between 2002 and 2006, the Mexican government was able to reduce kidnappings and dismantle a lot of kidnapping rings. They went up again in 2007 and the beginning of 2008, but a recent high-profile case where a 14-year-old kid was murdered has raised outrage again, so I'm pretty sure kidnapping rates will go down again.

However, if you Americans (yes, I know, Slashdot is international) want to be afraid to go to Mexico because of the kidnappings, please stay out. The girls here love Americans, and I spent some time with a pretty girl 18 years younger than myself earlier this week, and will have coffee with a pretty girl 14 years younger than myself tomorrow.

Rich Mexican Detector (2, Insightful)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712201)

Friends ... I sell you a rich Mexican detector ... itsa wery nize ... you pointa da ding to Mexican ... if rice in blood ... itsa rich Mexican ... you kidnap ...

Catch & Release (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712239)

Why stop with just the wealthy, I think the US should start a program that donates transmitters to all Mexicans, even illegal immigrants as they're caught crossing the border.

In other news... (1)

smith6174 (986645) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712269)

13% sales growth, with 2000 customers so far! At that rate, everyone in Mexico will have one in about 100 years.

Stupid... (1)

junkgui (69602) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712293)

Why would that even work... once the kidnapper sees the "larger device" they are sure to throw it away... Once you are a foot or so away the RFID would be out of range and then the best they could do is find the "larger device"... which is not you... Why not just buy a cell phone and call someone when you get kidnapped, it would be just as conspicuous.

Panic button (1)

bicho (144895) | more than 5 years ago | (#24712337)

Well, if you can alert people as the kidnapping is taking place, it certainly serves at least for one purpouse.
You don't need to wait for a call to know a relative has been kidnaped. and you can take action sooner.

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