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LHC Fully Documented Online

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the twenty-seven-kilometers-of-documentation dept.

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Physicser writes "Want to read every single technical detail of the design and construction of the Large Hadron Collider and its six detectors? The whole shebang — seven reports totaling 1600 pages, 115 MB, with contributions from 8000 scientists and engineers — has been published electronically by the Journal of Instrumentation, free to read without a subscription."

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Want to read every single technical detail...? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747081)

Not particularly.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (4, Informative)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747211)

Then read the abstracts [iop.org] .

Hint: click on the word "abstract". It's turtles all the way down.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (5, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747711)

It's like a giant hula-hoop(TM), lying on the ground, with tiny bits of things forced to circle inside it until they collide with one another, which results in the Earth disappearing into a black hole.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (5, Funny)

numbware (691928) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747961)

Even better explained here [theonion.com] .

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748053)

Sad thing is, that is what a lot of people hear when exposed to technobabble.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (3, Funny)

Scaba (183684) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748049)

It's like a giant hula-hoop(TM)...

You know, for kids.

Okay, other options (0, Redundant)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747235)

Okay, then, want to build a Large Hadron Collider? Or are you one of those people who think Hadrons should be left alone?

Re:Okay, other options (4, Funny)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747745)

Being able to duplicate an experiment is important to science, so we obviously need many people to build Large Hadron Colliders. I'm not doing anything this weekend, so where's the party?

Re:Okay, other options (4, Funny)

Starayo (989319) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748173)

My house is rather small. Perhaps I could build a Medium, or even a Small Hadron Collider?

Re:Okay, other options (1)

Perf (14203) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747873)

Why not do it the Gary Larson way? -- put the Hadrons in a mayonnaise jar, shake it up, and see what happens.

Re:Okay, other options (1)

DeathElk (883654) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748151)

Last time I put my hardon in a mayonnaise jar, the results were... oh, wait

Re:Okay, other options (4, Funny)

the_womble (580291) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748089)

I think we need stronger laws to prevent the pirating of particle colliders.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747297)

Actually you should. If you read between the lines--or better yet check the hidden information in the PDFs, you will find that they are hiding a certain set of circuitry labeled "B/H RETENT PD" with one dial normally set to 0. It's other setting: >0. And right under it there is a green indicator light with a label "DOOMSDAY DEVICE ACTIVE."

What does that mean? Don't touch that dial!

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (5, Insightful)

jgeeky (974074) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747473)

Beautiful pun, if that was your intention. So far, I don't think the other posters have gotten it. It was glorious!

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (1)

neoform (551705) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747563)

Mr. Smith: I move my finger one inch to use my turn signal. Why are these assholes so lazy they can't move their finger one fucking measly inch to drive more safely? You wanna know why?

DQ: Not particularly.

Mr. Smith: Because these rich bastards have to be callous and inconsiderate in the first place to make all that money, so when they get on the road, they can't help themselves. They've gotta be callous and inconsiderate drivers too. It's in their nature.

Re:Want to read every single technical detail...? (1)

Rainsoaked (97334) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748047)

Only 1600 pages? It needs to be four times longer to be rubber stamped as an ISO standard.

PR0N! (4, Funny)

Brain_Recall (868040) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747091)

Nerd porn at its finest.

This is something to download, store away, and reminisce some 30 years later.

What 30 years later? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747445)

I thought that there will be no 30 years later after they turn on the machine...

Re:What 30 years later? (5, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747741)

If you end up in some evil mirror universe where W became President instread of Gore you could use the plans to build another LHC to get back home.

Re:What 30 years later? (1)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747883)

(applause)

Re:PR0N! (1)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747895)

I'm just downloading it for the pictures.

I would but.... (5, Informative)

east coast (590680) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747101)

It would be a great read if I was one of the ten people on the face of the planet who could actually understand every detail. Oh, sorry, that's the people who wrote it.

I know it's going to get downloaded a ton of times and probably deleted before most readers ever get to the 3rd page, if it's even read at all.

Save them poor guys some bandwidth, torrent it. Too many people are going to be wasting their resources with no serious intentions of reading the contents.

Re:I would but.... (4, Interesting)

kesuki (321456) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747223)

well, they have the abstracts... you don't have to download the whole thing... but having read one abstract, i'm lost in the technical jargon, that large particle collider scientists write about without hesitation.

"Abstract. The TOTEM Experiment will measure the total pp cross-section with the luminosity-independent method and study elastic and diffractive scattering at the LHC. To achieve optimum forward coverage for charged particles emitted by the pp collisions in the interaction point IP5, two tracking telescopes, T1 and T2, will be installed on each side in the pseudorapidity region 3.1 || 6.5, and Roman Pot stations will be placed at distances of ±147 m and ±220 m from IP5. Being an independent experiment but technically integrated into CMS, TOTEM will first operate in standalone mode to pursue its own physics programme and at a later stage together with CMS for a common physics programme. This article gives a description of the TOTEM apparatus and its performance."

Re:I would but.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747361)

Except for the "luminosity-independent method" part, which I am not familiar with, I understood that pretty well, maybe I should give it a download, and of course, as many others have said, build my own...

I wonder what these president candidates will do about my constitutional right to bear doomsday devices...

Re:I would but.... (5, Insightful)

Matt Edd (884107) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747379)

People should keep this kinda stuff in mind when bashing scientists (like intelligent design supporters, anti-vaccination people, and other alternative medicine supporters.) The experts in a field really are experts. The argument from authority fallacy only applies to people talking outside of their field.

Re:I would but.... (3, Insightful)

polar red (215081) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747519)

or climate scientists ?

Re:I would but.... (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748175)

Psh. I can absolutely blow the minds of all the Joe Sixpacks out there when it comes to computers and make it seem as though I know far more than I do. It's very easy for me to mislead people because, well, I'm the expert as far as they can tell. This does not mean I'm going to be 100% truthful and not exploit the situation for my own personal gain. Of course this is all hypothetical... I'm completely altruistic, of course :D

Just because someone can throw technical jargon out at me doesn't necessarily mean I have to give up any differing stance I may have regarding the issue at hand. Of course it doesn't mean they're wrong, either.

Re:I would but.... (0, Troll)

sir fer (1232128) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748185)

stop lumping anti-vaccination people in there you fucking idiot. We have NOTHING in common with I.D. freaks.

Re:I would but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747701)

To achieve optimum forward coverage for charged particles emitted by the pp collisions in the interaction...

Ooh, stop it's getting hot in here! You had me at TOTEM....

Re:I would but.... (4, Funny)

Maelwryth (982896) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747879)

I found the abstract perfectly understandable. All you have to do is translate from english to greek and then greek to english. This gives you a very clear discription in laymans terms.

Summary. The experience of Totem will measure the intersection of pp completed by the method of brightness and independent study and the rubber band diffractive dispersing the LHC. To fulfill the best possible coverage for advanced charged particles issued by conflicts pp mutual action show télescopes IP5, two of pistage, T1 and T2, will be installed on each side of the region of pseudofastness 3,1 | | 6,5 and Roman stations Pot will be at a distance of 147 meters ±

Re:I would but.... (2, Funny)

Clandestine_Blaze (1019274) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747923)

To achieve optimum forward coverage for charged particles emitted by the pp collisions in the interaction point

Warning: Do not cross the streams! This must really be a doomsday device.

Re:I would but.... (5, Insightful)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747941)

This is interesting, because this is exactly the sort of thing that Tim Berners Lee sought to avoid when he envisioned the semantic web.

These papers and abstracts should be properly hyperlinked to other papers (or even a google search) to properly define what many of these terms mean. A lot of the jargon seems specific to either accelerator science, or even just the LHC.

I am a physicist who has worked on accelerator applications, and could only barely understand that abstract. It's very poorly written, and makes a far too extensive use of very specific jargon/acronyms to be comprehensible to even a physicist that happens to not be affiliated with the LHC.

Even an undergraduate should know better than to write an abstract like that. The general incomprehensibility, the use of extremely specific and unnecessary information ("±147 m and ±220 m from IP5") would be perfectly sufficient justification for a failing grade.

I'm truly ashamed of my colleagues for writing this.

Re:I would but.... (2, Insightful)

aztektum (170569) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748107)

They're nerds. What do you expect? We like to seem smart and lack social skills :)

Re:I would but.... (5, Informative)

jabernathy (1152921) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748147)

"Abstract. The TOTEM Experiment will measure the total pp cross-section with the luminosity-independent method and study elastic and diffractive scattering at the LHC. To achieve optimum forward coverage for charged particles emitted by the pp collisions in the interaction point IP5, two tracking telescopes, T1 and T2, will be installed on each side in the pseudorapidity region 3.1 || 6.5, and Roman Pot stations will be placed at distances of ±147 m and ±220 m from IP5. Being an independent experiment but technically integrated into CMS, TOTEM will first operate in standalone mode to pursue its own physics programme and at a later stage together with CMS for a common physics programme. This article gives a description of the TOTEM apparatus and its performance."

The TOTEM experiment will measure the total pp (proton-proton) cross-section (probability of collision) with the luminosity-independent method (does not depend on the amount of incoming particles) and study elastic and diffractive scattering (particle and wave scattering) at the LHC. To achieve optimum forward (close to the beam-pipe) coverage for charged particles emitted by the pp collision in the interaction point (where the beams cross) IP5, two tracking telescopes (planes of silicon or something that can detect charge particles), (named) T1 and T2, will be installed on each side in the pseudorapidity (the angle above the beampipe) region 3.1 (~5 degrees) || 6.5 (1 degree), and Roman Pot stations (to measure the luminosity) will be placed at distances of +- 147m and +-220m from IP5 (those distances from where the particles collide). Being an independent experiment but technically integrated into CMS (the Compact Muon Spectrometer), TOTEM will first operate in standalone mode to pursue it's own physics programme...

Re:I would but.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747589)

Save them poor guys some bandwidth, torrent it.

I have Comcast you insensitive clod!

Re:I would but.... (0, Redundant)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748045)

I have comcast:-( No torrentie for me.

1600 pages? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747107)

From TFA:

Just kidding, tldr.

Cool! I'm going to get started on mine right away! (4, Funny)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747109)

If you need me, I'll be in my basement.

This is Slashdot... (4, Funny)

aztektum (170569) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747185)

Don't you mean your parent's basement?

This. Is. Slashdot. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24748035)

I'm not really sure what this means either.

Please try not to picture a fat sweaty nerd in a loincloth defending the entrance to his parent's basement from all comers. Don't blame me for any mental damage, I told you not to do it.

How come they get to be mad scientists? (2, Funny)

tearmeapart (674637) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747309)

If you need me, I'll be in my basement, feeling the effects of the rather destructive force of the micro black hole created during one of the first collisions ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider#Safety_of_particle_collisions [wikipedia.org] ).

I have actually done some theoretical calculations based upon other people/scientist's "crazy" theories, and it is possible that an explosion the equivalent to a 3 gigaton TNT explosion ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent [wikipedia.org] ) to be created. Depending on where is happens, it might create a crater or hump ( http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Library/Effects/UndergroundEffects.html [nuclearweaponarchive.org] ), but probably a crater between 10 kilometers to 18 kilometers wide. This explosion would probably create an earthquake between 8.5 and 10.5 on the ritcher scale ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale [wikipedia.org] ) that is felt in Geneve, Switzerland, and an earth quake between 7 and 8.5 felt in Paris, France. The fun thing is that the amplitude of the quake would be very large, and the ground might not even shake more than twice due to the size of the whole thing.

Please note that these calculations assume that all the equipment works perfectly (, or a error of less than a thousandth of a percent). I did account for error in the calculations, especially how practical large/nuclear explosions tend to have caused slightly larger earthquakes than calculated ( http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=AD0617181 [dtic.mil] ).

Other notes: There exists a chance that a huge explosion would just create a big crater with a small tunnel going toward the center of the earth. If you have trouble visualizing this, try visualizing the Death Star.

Is anyone else putting their aluminum foil hats on and thinking that these scientists are absolutely mad?! And why did these mad scientists get to have a chance to destroy the world before me?

Re:How come they get to be mad scientists? (2, Funny)

kd5zex (1030436) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747385)

So still the important question goes unanswered.

Will I have to bother going into work the day after they fire this thing up?

Re:How come they get to be mad scientists? (1)

tftp (111690) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747707)

Will I have to bother going into work the day after they fire this thing up?

Most workers find a faster Internet link at work, which will be essential to see all the videos of the unfolding doom. Remember, there will be no rebroadcasts!

Re:How come they get to be mad scientists? (3, Funny)

Rayban (13436) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747761)

Quick tip: "quotes" don't make theories less "crazy".

Re:How come they get to be mad scientists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747779)

And why did these mad scientists get to have a chance to destroy the world before me?

"The hammer is my penis."

Wait! (2, Insightful)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747405)

The LEGO Mindstorm version will be released any day now!

Re:Cool! I'm going to get started on mine right aw (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747865)

You're bound to screw up and end up sliding anyway. We've seen it all happen before.

doomed! (3, Funny)

Rdickinson (160810) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747113)

Now I can build my own the planet is DOOMED!

Re:doomed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747187)

DHS agents will be at your door momentarily.

Re:doomed! (1)

Rdickinson (160810) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747207)

It'll take them a while to get to New Zealand mate!

Re:doomed! (1)

findingmaemo (1350519) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748031)

You mean DHS dressed as DHL when he tries to order Americium from that kid in Detroit who built the reactor in his backyard.

Re:doomed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747315)

Now I can build my own the planet is DOOMED!

You will have to miniaturise it somewhat so that it can be properly affixed to the head of a shark.

Re:doomed! (1)

rapid eyes movement (1230814) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747637)

one small step towards world domination

Look at this way... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747137)

...1600 pages for every detail of the making of a LHC, 6546 pages in the specs for OOXML and it's still not enough detail to let you open and create OOXML documents. Obviously the LHC is not adequately complex.

Re:Look at this way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24748085)

Obviously the LHC is not adequately complex

That's kinda where I'm at. "Really? That's all? Cool." How big was the equivalent documentation for the Saturn V? Anyone have examples from their own projects? I have vague memories of yards of aircraft manuals for the heavy stuff, but that's operations as much as description. (30 hours of exams for your L-1011 ticket, IIRC. Few sit it; most maintenance is (was?) done under a license issued to the airline.)

[captcha: singable "...And the things that it discovers will rock you in the head" ]

TL;DR (3, Funny)

Spring182 (1338645) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747145)

TL;DR

Create my own (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747161)

Oooh goody - that means that I can create my own!

Funny... (2, Interesting)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747203)

I recall hitting numerous sections of the site that were protected. One was a log of superconducting magnet quenches. I guess that openness doesn't extend to embarrassing operational problems...

I guess it's good ... (1)

Barbobot (1252798) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747227)

... at least /something/ about it is "online."

Off to the hardware store (1)

Onyma (1018104) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747239)

Excellent... off to the hardware store to start picking up parts this weekend. I wonder if my local electric company is going to mind the extra drain... no matter, the black hole in my back yard will swallow them soon enough. ;)

On the serious side... (3, Interesting)

Onyma (1018104) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747263)

I am very much looking forward to what comes out of the LHC. It's been wonderful to watch its construction and that's only a fraction of the satisfaction its discoveries will provide.

Safe from black holes (4, Funny)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747271)

At sixteen hundred pages, it can only create about a fourth of the suckiness of the OOXML standard. Since that hasn't generated a black hole - except for maybe a few terabytes of lost data here and there - we should be safe.

Non Story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747285)

This story would only be important if we had all been devoured in a black hole.

LHC Machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747327)

I can recommend the document at the bottom, "LHC Machine"... while I only understand a tiny little bit of what they're talking about in terms of apparatus, and roughly none of the physics, parts of "LHC Machine" talk about the control systems, middleware, J2EE components, and other stuff like that: more ordinary hardware/software geek stuff. It was actually very interesting. I didn't try to read any of the others yet...

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747373)

In other news, sales of Nytol [wikipedia.org] declined sharply.

- T

Now that I have the plans (1, Funny)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747395)

It's time I applied for my personalized Capital One credit card.

With sharks.
And lasers.
And maybe some ninja midgets.
And warkittens.

Re:Now that I have the plans (1, Offtopic)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747443)

That's warkittehs! [wordpress.com]

Simple introduction... (4, Informative)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747397)

It's a hobby, I'm way outside of the brainpower to do the math.

So I found some videos and articles to help me out: YouTube [youtube.com] to the rescue [youtube.com] Warning there's some crap with bird in there.

Finding the Higg's Boson is the big prize, if they find it it will help with this which disrupts the notion of black holes as "singularities" and raises some philosophical, and religious questions... largely if the theorized particle is not found. [wikipedia.org]

Also interesting is the evaporating black hole theory, which is all but proven so don't worry (Cough CNN).

Personally I've always been facinated by Virtual particles [wikipedia.org] and am curious about the implication of examining non-singularity black holes.

Enjoy it, it's gonna be cool as hell!

Re:Simple introduction... (1)

CorporateSuit (1319461) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747539)

Finding the Higg's Boson is the big prize

I thought the Hadron Collider was after the Bonre particle...

Re:Simple introduction... (1)

Rei (128717) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747749)

Finding the Higg's Boson is the big prize

Well, that *is* the one that everybody talks about. If the Higgs exists, they ought to see it right away.

I found a vulnerability... (5, Funny)

Shag (3737) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747417)

On page 867, there's mention of a two-meter-wide thermal exhaust port, right below the main port. The exhaust shaft leads directly to the reactor system, and a precise hit would start a chain reaction which should destroy the LHC.

Re:I found a vulnerability... (5, Funny)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747573)

I'm afraid the LHC will be quite operational when your friends arrive.

[OT] (-1, Offtopic)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747681)

Yes, this is offtopic, but we were talking about it anyways. I happen to thing that the particular voice inflections used by the emperor are in a similar vein to those of the GMan from Half-Life (and especially Half-Life 2). While this was probably unintentional, I can't help but think about a very strange crossover of the two universes.

Re:I found a vulnerability... (2, Funny)

neoform (551705) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747609)

Sounds pretty serious, can we cover it with some plywood or something?

Re:I found a vulnerability... (1)

maglor_83 (856254) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747717)

Plywood? Are you mad? This is a job for gaffer tape!

Re:I found a vulnerability... (3, Informative)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747963)

Now that we're venturing out into the realm of "extremely offtopic," I should point out that Americans have no idea what gaffer tape is, unless they've worked as a roadie or stage tech at some point in their lives.

For those of you who still don't know what gaffer tape is, you may substitute "duct tape" to sufficiently understand the parent poster's humor.

However, gaffer tape is far superior to duct tape in many aspects. It's made from cloth, rather than plastic, and doesn't tend to destroy whatever surface it happens to be applied to. It can generally be removed without causing damage, despite being nearly as strong (if not stronger) than duct tape.

Re:I found a vulnerability... (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748179)

Duct tape is made of cloth. It's vinyl coated to make it water resistant.

As for the "remove without damage" bit, that depends on the brand.

Though gorilla tape takes the fixes-practically-anything prize IMO. It's great for jury rig car repairs.

See? Right there on page 1,239... (0, Redundant)

jpellino (202698) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747437)

...they forgot to carry the 7.
We're all DOOMED!
What?
That's a european "1"?

Never mind.

Fears confirmed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747477)

...and due to every Slashdot user printing it out, the majority of Earth's forests are destroyed.

The rate of global warming increases tenfold.

With the combined mass of all the printouts no longer evenly distributed, small black holes form in several metropolitan areas.

Global warming is no longer an issue.

Now I can build my own! (0, Redundant)

Easy2RememberNick (179395) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747487)

Fools! Now I can build my own.

Neat! (4, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747543)

I especially like appendix B, or "Build Your Own Large Hadron Collider"

I totally have a project for this weekend!

Home Depot has extra large superconducting electromagnets, right?

Re:Neat! (1)

sokoban (142301) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747603)

Home Depot has extra large superconducting electromagnets, right?

No, they dont. Wal-Mart has Yttrium, Barium, and Copper Oxides on sale right now though. Pick up a tube furnace and a compressed oxygen cylinder and you can make your own

http://materials.binghamton.edu/labs/super/superc.html [binghamton.edu]

Re:Neat! (1)

rentaslut (619390) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748141)

As long as no one gets hurt I guess you could?

Great... (4, Funny)

Perseid (660451) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747565)

...now we have to worry about random third-world countries building weapons of mass-collision.

Hooray! (1)

MarkTraceur (1329579) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747605)

Now every Joe Schmo with hundreds of acres of land, hundreds of construction workers and engineers, and a lot of raw materials can make his own black hole in his backyard!

The documentation was released weeks ago. (3, Interesting)

Rei (128717) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747703)

Come on, don't you remember the slashdot article [slashdot.org] about it?

Twenty-seven kilometers of tunnel under ground
Designed with mind to send protons around
A circle that crosses through Switzerland and France
Sixty nations contribute to scientific advance
Two beams of protons swing round, through the ring they ride
Til in the hearts of the detectors, theyre made to collide
And all that energy packed in such a tiny bit of room
Becomes mass, particles created from the vacuum
And then

LHCb sees where the antimatters gone
ALICE looks at collisions of lead ions
CMS and ATLAS are two of a kind
Theyre looking for whatever new particles they can find.
The LHC accelerates the protons and the lead
And the things that it discovers will rock you in the head.

Come on, let's drop some particle physics in the club!

what we really need to know is... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747725)

does it blend?

You disappoint me... (2, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747775)

I was expected at least a mirror and placeholder wiki at openlhc.org by now.

TLA (1, Redundant)

KGIII (973947) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747823)

I don't think that it is illegitimate for me to say:

TLDR

JINST, huh (1)

mako1138 (837520) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747867)

I had thought that NIM (Nuclear Instrumentation & Methods, owned by Elsevier) was the only game in town, but it's good to see that there's another journal for this sort of stuff.

(five minutes of browsing later) The Symmetry mag article has a link to the SLAC "blue book", which looks substantially more approachable.

Plus, given how slow my download is going, JINST is being slashdotted. ;)

Slightly offtopic, but (2, Interesting)

Maelwryth (982896) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747901)

If anyone ever needs a reason to wallop copyright, let this quote from the article [symmetrymagazine.org] be that reason;

Most copies of The Blue Book had vanished from the SLAC Library, and the librarians wanted to make it available electronically. But they ran into a snag: No one could figure out who owned the copyright, so there was no one to give permission to put it on the Web.
"It's an orphan work," SLAC archivist Jean Deken told me Friday. The original publisher was bought by another, which was bought by another, and so on. Finally, with the help of an expert from Stanford Law School, librarian Abraham Wheeler tracked down the current owner of the copyright-which said that since it could not find any documentation on the book, it could not grant permission to reproduce it.

ZOMG! O NOES! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24747915)

The terrorists can

oh noes! they did WHAT?/ (1)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747965)

So the full technical specification has been posted online to our enemies? They want to hand this kind of technology to the terrorists? They want to make nukes, tehy could use the colliding hadrons like the exploding fission atom used in a atom bomb! Or worse find the fundamental secrets of the universe first!

Whew! (1)

The Clockwork Troll (655321) | more than 6 years ago | (#24747991)

Just finished. Report #3 was particularly good, though 4 and 5 could have been a little more concise (IMHO).

Now, back to chapter 2 of Gravity's Rainbow.

This is outrageous! (5, Insightful)

bit01 (644603) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748001)

Are they mad? The work of thousands of scientists published on line for all to see. A reasonable generic copyright license. All downloadable.

What about the poor deserving lawyers? Where is the DRM? The commercial propaganda about "IP"? The hundred page license? The attempts by assorted hangers on to profit at other people's expense?

I think the lawyers should form a class action lawsuit for loss of income. It's just not right that somebody should be able to do something without numerous lawyers attached.

Re:This is outrageous! (0)

bit01 (644603) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748011)

Copyright license [iop.org]

In the even that I read this... (1)

findingmaemo (1350519) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748005)

how will I build one when I have no more money for doomsday devices? I put all of my money into Enron, and you see where that got me!

Need a Rev A (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748019)

There's a mistake on page 1471.

          Brett

Black hole? (1)

suck_burners_rice (1258684) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748025)

Where's the stuff about how they'll turn the world into a black hole? Hopefully that won't happen. It would suck. Like a vacuum cleaner. But with gravity instead of vacuum. :-(

Oblig... (1)

Chris Brewer (66818) | more than 6 years ago | (#24748203)

Now at last I can build my own Large Hadron Collider, with hookers! and blackjack!

In fact, forget the LHC!

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