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Slashdot's Disagree Mail

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the teach-me-something dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 354

There is an old Japanese proverb that goes, "Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher." This week's mail is all about teaching. Whether it is about the seriousness of psychic ability, a short history of trolls or explaining how much free time and malice your dad's attorney has, these people just want to impart information. If what they sent me is any indication, they had a lot of sick days. Click on the link below to become enlightened.This lady doesn't like the message you get on our banned page because it belittles psychics and the good work they do.

On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 ******** wrote:
"I normally don't take the time to write to anyone on the internet because they are so rude and closed minded but I must object to your flippant use of the term psychic in the banned message I received. First off I did nothing wrong on purpose to you. If something was wrong it was a mistake. My mother has done a lot of work with local law enforcement and once for FBI. She helps people while you punish them. I've not yet developed my skills enough to help anyone but I do have glimpses. Many reputable brokerage houses and even former presidents rely on psychics for decisions. Maybe if you opened your mind you wouldn't need to punish people for no reason."


Here is a guy that knows a lot about trolls

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 ******* wrote:
"Dude your troll option don't make sense! I know yall think that it means someone bad but trolls used to be good. They'd build stuff if you left them bread or wine and they made the viking gods armor and spears. Don't let a few years of internet people destroy what something means. Be smarter than that! Yall don't have to play follow the leader. learn about trolls. I guess some were bad and you have to trick them into cutting open his belly in an eating contest but that doesn't even matter when it comes to what your saying. Do some research."


Finally we have a man who wanted me to delete all of his comments. When I explained that I couldn't, he sent me this.

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 ******** wrote:
"Holy Shit are you guys fucked! If I own my words your fucking page says so! I asked my dads lawyer and he said you are fucked to. He doesn't do much because my dad is honest not like your users bunch of liberal fags! My dads lawyer is a mean sonabitch and would love to sue you back into the darkages he said so. I almost hope you don't change your mind. I'd love to be there when it all goes down in court. You could do what you know is right and what is right for a place that is supposed to be about customers (readers). If you don't try and do what your reader wants you to do without having him tell you all the time then you are a good business. If not then you are getting YOUR ASS SUED!! If you made cars and I wanted you to crush it and you said no you wouldn't be in business long. Get a fucking CLUE. If I don't want people to see me I can go inside but if I don't want people to read me you won't get rid of my posts? BULLSHIT!! you have to or youll get a call from my dads lawyer buy Friday and then hell will rain down on you. DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!"

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

How long until you publish anti-idle mail? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781389)

And then the anti-anti-anti-idle mail? (Notice I skip the anti-anti-mail, because no one will write that)

Might As Well Try to Discuss This (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781395)

"This lady doesn't like the message you get on our banned page..."

What is Slashdot's banned page? I did not know such a thing existed. If you were a bot, I suspect you'd be banned but how does a psychic get banned? What are the conditions that cause a user to get banned? Has anyone else seen this?

"My mother has done a lot of work with local law enforcement and once for FBI."

What is it with nutjobs and claiming they have done work for important government agencies? Yeah, I understand there was a program in the 70s to explore using psychics against the commies but is there a form of dementia that causes one to hallucinate that they are serving a higher power? You know like John Nash or Tom Cruise [youtube.com] style? I'm sorry, that wasn't really fair to Doctor Nash.

--

"I guess some were bad and you have to trick them into cutting open his belly in an eating contest but that doesn't even matter when it comes to what your saying."

Is this a reference to some historical myth that I am missing? I think I understand where this (satire) is coming from in that some mythologies contained trolls or troll like creatures. But what is the eating contest reference to? Anyone heavy on Norse mythology or is this some remote Fantasy reference?

--

"If I own my words your fucking page says so!"

Despite he fail English possible, I have always been interested in what your disclaimer means for us, the ones who post. You make that claim to avoid legal troubles, I understand, but if we own what we post here, what are our rights. I have no way of easily accessing my prior posts. I often remember a post I made about something (like Iceland) and I have to go to Google for it because there is simply no way to page through all my comments in my user page. Sometimes someone replies with a thread linking to a useful open source tool and I can never remember what story it was on or where it was attached.

Also, what happens if Slashdot goes offline or is shutdown in the future? What will happen to all my 'property'? Have you considered allowing users to export posts, threads or stories? It would most likely be too taxing for the server but if these posts are owned by the users, shouldn't they be made available to them for keeping in their records?

"you have to or youll get a call from my dads lawyer buy Friday"

My god, lawyers have figured out how to license days of the week! Quickly, how do I acquire the rights to 'Saturday'? I'll be rich!

I think that this last post indicates clearly that we (Americans) are an overly litiguous society. We are so dependent on lawyers that childish remarks immediately default to "my dad's lawyer will sue you." This individual sounds like a minor and I suspect that overexposure to lawsuits and court cases have brought this on. Don't confuse this with 'justice.' "I'm going to beat you up" has been simply replaced with "I'm going to sue you!" And although the violence element has been removed, there is still this overly aggressive, unjust attitude saturated from the highest corporations to the immaturest minds.

One more thing, why is my preview formatting all funny on Idle?

Psychic not banned, yet! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781461)

Well, the psychic has NOT actually been banned yet, but she knew it was coming.

Re:Psychic not banned, yet! (1, Informative)

xonar (1069832) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782251)

That was golden

TOS (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781571)

Quoth the Terms of Service:

With respect to text or data entered into and stored by publicly-accessible site features such as forums, comments and bug trackers ("SourceForge Public Content"), the submitting user retains ownership of such SourceForge Public Content; with respect to publicly-available statistical content which is generated by the site to monitor and display content activity, such content is owned by SourceForge. In each such case, the submitting user grants SourceForge the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable license

Re:TOS (0, Flamebait)

nacturation (646836) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781741)

Quoth the Terms of Service:

With respect to text or data entered into and stored by publicly-accessible site features such as forums, comments and bug trackers ("SourceForge Public Content"), the submitting user retains ownership of such SourceForge Public Content; with respect to publicly-available statistical content which is generated by the site to monitor and display content activity, such content is owned by SourceForge. In each such case, the submitting user grants SourceForge the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable license

Quite draconian -- if it were Microsoft, they'd likely get flamed for such a policy. I may have to reconsider posting some really great content and instead blog it given that Slashdot can profit unconditionally from my work.
 

Re:TOS (1)

Otto (17870) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781857)

That's not draconian at all. Most sites that accept and display user-submitted content have something similar. They have to, because they are displaying that content. All of those rights are required to be able to display somebody else's content.

Re:TOS (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781933)

That's not draconian at all. Most sites that accept and display user-submitted content have something similar. They have to, because they are displaying that content. All of those rights are required to be able to display somebody else's content.

It's the perpetual and irrevocable part. Imagine if Facebook would keep everything you deleted and then after you closed your account, post it all back online, write a book called "Facebook's Top 10 Stupid Users", and highlight unflattering pictures of you on their homepage. That's all within the scope of you granting a "royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed".
 

Re:TOS (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781819)

Left something out, there...

With respect to text or data entered into and stored by publicly-accessible site features such as forums, comments and bug trackers ("SourceForge Public Content"), the submitting user retains ownership of such SourceForge Public Content; with respect to publicly-available statistical content which is generated by the site to monitor and display content activity, such content is owned by SourceForge. In each such case, the submitting user grants SourceForge the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable license. Oh, and we hate all you fucking psychics. Assholes, the bunch of you.

There. Fixed that for you.

Re:TOS (3, Funny)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782281)

You must be a psychic, then, because that's written in invisible ink. Only psychics can read it.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (5, Informative)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781779)

Re: Troll - If I correctly remember an earlier reading on trolls on Wikipedia, the term derives from the verb "to troll", as in the ships that troll the ocean for fish--not to the mythological creature.

Re: Ownership of comments: You own the copyright on that particular set of words attributed to you (or your username), and you implicitly grant Slashdot permission to publish those comments. If you were to grant a newspaper permission to reprint your comments (i.e. by sending a letter to the editor), you cannot ask them to collect all copies of their newspaper and cut out your letter after it's been printed.

Re: Idle's comment box: Holy fuck, this thing's annoying! And the comment formatting doesn't work.

- RG>

Re: Re: Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782205)

I like the "Three Billy Goats Gruff [wikipedia.org] " image of a troll lurking under the bridge to pounce on a passing innocent :-)

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782219)

Personally, it's the "transferable" part that I find iffy.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (1)

FuzzyFox (772046) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782245)

the term derives from the verb "to troll", as in the ships that troll the ocean for fish

I believe the word you're looking for is "trawl."

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (3, Funny)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781821)

I was playing with open proxies on day quite a while back. While I was taking a break, I stayed on the last proxy I was on, and went to Slashdot. I got a banned page. I don't remember the text verbatum, but it had something about the IP was detected to have been abusing, and was blocked. It's probably automatic, and probably kicks in when trolls post too much from one IP. Really, the abuses here aren't too bad considering how many people read and write here.

      I'm guessing they were using a bad proxy, or they were posting so much crap that they tripped the abuse system and it blocked them. Being psychic, they should have seen it coming. :)

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (1)

bhtooefr (649901) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782239)

AvantGo is banned for making too many requests or something... so anyone who tries to use AvantGo to get the Palm version of Slashdot gets a banned message.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781979)

As I recall, when slashdot started becoming more corporate and such, there was a new copyright notice at the bottom that said slashdot or its parent company or something owned everything. A bunch of users complained like, "why don't I get copyright privileges on my own words" or something to that effect. They updated the notice to say that comments belonged to the poster. I think the notice went through a few changes since then but that's more or less how the bit about comments being owned by the poster came about.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782051)

I think that if you replaced "Disagree Mail" with "Best of twitter's sock-puppets"... no one would notice.

Captcha is "nurture", leading me once again to believe that too many people involved in OP weren't hugged enough as children.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (5, Informative)

hyfe (641811) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782135)

Is this a reference to some historical myth that I am missing? I think I understand where this (satire) is coming from in that some mythologies contained trolls or troll like creatures. But what is the eating contest reference to? Anyone heavy on Norse mythology or is this some remote Fantasy reference?

It's not Norse, but it is Norwegian (or scandinavian, I'm actually not sure).

It's referring to a story about a guy named Askeladden who got captured by a troll, and challenged him to an eating contest using porrige. Askeladden put his backpack and as the eating contest went on, filled his backpack up. When it was full, he said to the troll: 'It's no problem, I'll just slit up my stomack and I'm ready to eat more', and he cut open his backpack.. A while later the troll was full too, and askeladden persuaded him to do the same :)

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782151)

Your words are yours, but /. owns the bits.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782167)

Yeah, I understand there was a program in the 70s to explore using psychics against the commies but is there a form of dementia that causes one to hallucinate that they are serving a higher power? You know like John Nash or Tom Cruise [youtube.com] style? I'm sorry, that wasn't really fair to Doctor Nash.

No, it's probably very fair to Dr. Nash. There are mental illnesses that cause the sufferer to believe he or she is very important, either by themselves or because of some role they play. Have you heard the phrase "delusions of grandeur"? It's a symptom of paranoid disorders, such as paranoid schizophrenia, which is the disease John Nash suffered from.

Delusions of grandeur are often accompanies by delusions of persecution. Essentially, if I believe myself to be really great and important, then whenever something goes wrong for me, I'm likely to assume it's because someone is out to get me. That's where the "paranoid" part comes in.

Re:Might As Well Try to Discuss This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782241)

""I guess some were bad and you have to trick them into cutting open his belly in an eating contest but that doesn't even matter when it comes to what your saying."
Is this a reference to some historical myth that I am missing? I think I understand where this (satire) is coming from in that some mythologies contained trolls or troll like creatures. But what is the eating contest reference to? Anyone heavy on Norse mythology or is this some remote Fantasy reference? "

It references an old norwegian fairy tale. Short synopsis here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_Who_Ate_a_Match_With_the_Troll

PS. "the boy put more into his scrip than into his stomach" (from wikipedia)
And if you, like me, have never seen the word scrip before; I think a backpack was used in the version I remember...

And I apologize for the lack of line breaks, but for some reason they don't show up. (atleast in preview)

One mean sonabitch (2, Funny)

soulsteal (104635) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781409)

My dad's lawyer is one. For reals.

Re:One mean sonabitch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782331)

Got him off that murder rap, not many coulda.

FIRST (5, Funny)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781413)

I demand you delete this

Good advice (5, Funny)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781423)

I should really follow the advice on the front page that sometimes appears, "Never go to idle.slashdot.org -- it's a complete waste of your time".

Oh, first post?

Re:Good advice (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781439)

Oh, first post?

No, evidently lots of people waste even more time than me.

Re:Good advice (4, Insightful)

Tridus (79566) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781729)

The problem is that idle.slashdot.org is now coming to us on the front page. The advice is just to never go there, but now we have to actively take steps to fight it off.

There's an "In Soviet Russia..." joke in this somewhere, I'm sure.

Re:Good advice (5, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781801)

For anyone looking, the option is on this page: http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome [slashdot.org]

That's the last you'll hear of me on this /. section :-)

Re:Good advice (1)

galoise (977950) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782005)

does this option take it off rss too?

Re:Good advice (2, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782213)

It seems to have done (I just clicked "rss" at the bottom of the page and Firefox gave me a preview). Presumably, you'd need your RSS reader to send the appropriate login cookie.

Re:Good advice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781965)

An even worse problem (since you can configure your front page) is that it's coming through RSS feeds, which aren't configurable, and don't report that the article's from idle.

Re:Good advice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781985)

well, obviously in soviet russia idle visits you

Re:Good advice (5, Funny)

AP31R0N (723649) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782019)

LEAVE IDOL.SLASHDOT ALONE!

"DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!" (2, Insightful)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781425)

and yes i'm talking about the white on green text that hurtses

Re:"DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781805)

It's really not that bad, white on a dark-turquoise (Windows box, pantone-colour calibrated). But then it does look awful on a default uncalibrated mac.

Re:"DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782175)

In which case you're a moron.

Pantone supply swatches for spot colors etc. You don't calibrate to a different colorspace, you calibrate your monitor for RGB and use a color profile.

HTH, HAND.

Re:"DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782247)

Wow, a Windows elitist. Never thought I'd come across that particular oddity.

Trolls.. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781433)

Ironically, that troll email was quite insightful and interesting.

Re:Trolls.. (3, Insightful)

SpicyLemon (803639) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782055)

Wow, correct usage of the word "Ironically." These days, that, in itself, is ironic.

the banned page (4, Informative)

jamie (78724) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781445)

For those of you who have never been lucky enough to witness the "pink page" we display to banned users, here's the text of the template [github.com] we generate it with. I confess I'd never before thought about how offensive that might be to psychics.

Re:the banned page (3, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781525)

"For those of you who have never been lucky enough to witness the "pink page" we display to banned users, here's the text of the template [github.com] we generate it with. I confess I'd never before thought about how offensive that might be to psychics."

That's pretty horrible but ... not enough use of the <marquee> & <blink> tags.

Say, Jamie, why is the idle comment boxes different and why are the <quote> tags not functioning like they do on the rest of Slashdot?

Re:the banned page (3, Interesting)

jamie (78724) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781737)

We may have CSS issues... I'm pasting your comment's URL to our UI guys right now :)

Re:the banned page (1)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781677)

For those of you who have never been lucky enough to witness the "pink page" we display to banned users, here's the text of the template [github.com] we generate it with. I confess I'd never before thought about how offensive that might be to psychics.

That's not offensive to psychics, rather, it praises the work that they do and you admit that you can't do the work that they do. It says that you are good, but psychics are better than good.

Re:the banned page (4, Insightful)

Ifni (545998) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782025)

Actually, because of the lack of a "but" it can be construed as a contrasting comparison - to wit: "we're good, therefore/because we are not psychic". Most readers will realize that the true intent was "we're good, BUT we are not psychic," but the lack of a conjunction does leave it slightly open to interpretation.

Re:the banned page (1)

MarkGriz (520778) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782223)

Indeed. Rather than get all offended, the writer should have asked for a job guessing UIDs for banned slashdotters requesting to be unbanned.

Re:the banned page (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782053)

I mean come on, we're good, we're not psychic.

You bastard, my grandmother said she'd die in the Lesser Psychic Wars of 2015.

Re:the banned page (3, Funny)

Ceriel Nosforit (682174) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782105)

I confess I'd never before thought about how offensive that might be to psychics.

It's OK. You're good, not psychic.

On a side-note, I hold the educated opinion that speaking ill of self-proclaimed 'psychics', 'healers', or tarot card readers is fundamentally not only naive, but also immature and detrimental to your own ability to understand your surroundings. Many of us have experienced things not you nor we can begin to comprehend, and your ridiculous belittling attitude only serves to stop us from sharing our experiences. - Experiences which enrich our lives and makes us kinder, gentler human beings.

Re:the banned page (1)

Thornburg (264444) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782183)

"

For those of you who have never been lucky enough to witness the "pink page" we display to banned users, here's the text of the template [github.com] we generate it with. I confess I'd never before thought about how offensive that might be to psychics.

"

I don't understand how "we're good, but we're not psychic" (very slightly paraphrased) would offensive to psychics.

Also, it seems to me that if you are easily offended, a psychic is probably not a very good thing to be.

Please just stop (4, Insightful)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781449)

with the emails.

There aren't really enough, and I guess I don't have enough of a sense of humor to really get this non-sequitur summary and emails.

Re:Please just stop (3, Insightful)

philspear (1142299) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781589)

Not to mention you're only encouraging people to troll you like all three of these obviously were.

Temper, temper! (4, Funny)

the darn (624240) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781451)

I'd hate to have to be the one to tell him that his dad's lawyer buddy is screwing his Canadian girlfriend...

Mon, 9 2008 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781455)

That's not even a date.

Re:Mon, 9 2008 (1)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782159)

Let's look at this logically... Since the year is clearly indicated, that leaves us with the month and day. Since the ninth month has not yet occurred in 2008, we can safely assume the 9 indicates the 9th day of the month. This leave only the month. A cursory glance at the calendar tells us that June is the only month this year where the 9th falls on a Monday. So, having been through all of that, we can conclude that the author clearly meant Monday, June 9, 2008. Simple! I can't possibly understand why here would be any confusion, as this method of date indication provides 100% clarity to anyone willing to spend the time to interpret it!

DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!! (4, Funny)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781463)

Is it just me, or did he ask you to hire an assasin?

He know's that's illegal, doesn't he?

So.. (1)

_bug_ (112702) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781467)

Did the guy sue you yet?

Re:So.. (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781827)

Naw, turns out his dad uses "lawyer" as an euphemism for "dealer", hence the crappy legal advice.

- RG>

the troll post was a good troll (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781481)

YHBT.

Trolls (4, Funny)

harrkev (623093) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781485)

I kind of like the "troll" comment. It was coherent, and not babbling. Yes, it challenges our common conception of a popular phrase used on the internet a lot. However, I can honestly say that I do not know enough to be able to say that he is wrong, so he may even be right?

To put such a reasonable (although slightly strange) e-mail up here for ridicule seems somewhat unfair.

If there actually was such a thing as a race of benevolent trolls, I bet they'd be pissed right about now.

What is the origin (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781719)

The activity is trolling, perhaps related to trawling, to throw out a net and drag it across the bottom to see what it brings up. Trolling in terms of a large stone humanoid makes no rear sense. Perhaps a troll could be someone a bit dimwitted, or ancient, or rockhard but not someone purposefully stirring things up. And mystical creatures have varied reputations depending on area and even the story involved.

Re:What is the origin (1)

FooGoo (98336) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782173)

trolling: to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat

Re:Trolls (2, Informative)

jnik (1733) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781755)

Except it gets the etymology wrong. [catb.org]

Re:Trolls (3, Funny)

Experiment 626 (698257) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781765)

My understanding is that "Troll" in the context Slashdot uses it derives from the fishing term. It refers to a technique of using a lure to bait the fish, with the lure in this case being a trouble-instigating post. The fact that the mythical creatures (popularized by Tolkien, Treasure Trolls, Warcraft, etc.) share the same name is coincidental, and not an attempt to disparage them. The fishing term comes from Middle English and Anglo-French, whereas the creature name is of Danish/Norwegian/Old Norse origins.

Re:Trolls (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782215)

Ironically, I thought this guy was trolling by just making that up. I had to check Wikipedia to be sure. Troll (angling) [wikipedia.org] Or wait... maybe he just made that article right now! Oh no!

Re:Trolls (1)

eagee (1308589) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781775)

It was hard to tell whether he was being sardonic, or serious. If it was meant tounge and cheek, then it's really a very clever email. If not, then he sounds like he should be playing a certain racing game [slashdot.org] . [:)]

Re:Trolls (1)

Ant2 (252143) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781831)

I had always assumed the term was adopted based on the verb form of the word troll, not the mythical, cave-dwelling beings.

troll
verb
1 fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat
2 intended to provoke a response from the reader

Re:Trolls (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781873)

They went extinct about 1500 years ago, stomped out of existence by the rapid expansion of the human population and their quest to spread their theology to others. You're probably familiar with the theology that killed off the trolls and other ancient religions.

Re:Trolls (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782313)

Theology killed the Troll star?

Re:Trolls (4, Funny)

SydShamino (547793) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782011)

If there actually was such a thing as a race of benevolent trolls, I bet they'd be pissed right about now.

I understand that a secret race of benevolent canned lunch meat products are furious, too.

Re:Trolls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782131)

Geico's new slogan...

"It's so easy, even a troll can do it"

Free advice for Taco: (4, Insightful)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781493)

If you want to fix your toilet, don't hire an electrician.

If you want to rewire your house, don't hire a landscaper.

If you want humorous content on slashdot, maybe you should hire a fucking comedy writer.

Re:Free advice for Taco: (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781953)

physician heal thyself

Re:Free advice for Taco: (1)

AskFirefly (757114) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782141)

Stupid e-mails aren't funny? Has someone informed Scott Adams?

This makes me want to send a rude email. (5, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781505)

How about, please stop putting this on the front page. By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.
You know "Slashdot, News for Nerds. Stuff that counts."
Idiots on the Internet isn't news and none of this counts.
BTW why can't you delete all the posts made by somebody?
If they didn't post as an AC then a simple query should bring up their posts and then you could delete them or at least the body of the message.
Of course it wouldn't take out replies or quoted text.
Yes I do know the difference between possible and practical but this does seem possible but I should wouldn't want to have to do it.

Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (3, Funny)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781767)

Idol? Dont' give them ideas!

Yes, definitely no idols! (1)

VirginMary (123020) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781841)

> By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.

Yeah, because we don't want to read about Britney Spears or other idols amongst articles about Times Roman, Helvetica etc.

Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (2, Informative)

SpicyLemon (803639) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781981)

I enjoy getting it on the front page. Besides, as a user pointed out in the first installment, there's an option in your user controls to not show them on the front page.

From the top of this page click on "Preferences." Then click on "Help & Preferences." Now find the "Index" section under "Your Preferences" and click on the link for "Sections." Find "Idle" in the list and select the radio button in the column headed by a red circle with a line through it. Click the "save" button and you're all set.

Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (4, Interesting)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782075)

How about, please stop putting this on the front page.

How about all you fucking whiners spend 5 minutes learning how to set a few preferences and STFU? You guys are as bad as the parents who want lily-white safe TV for their kids to watch but are offended at suggestions they simply use the on/of button on their remote instead.

Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782117)

Want to know a secret?

I have my own news site, and there's one major thing that Slashdot and my site have in common. We own our sites, therefore we can do anything we please on them.

I could declare tomorrow "random bullshit day", and run insignificant news from all over the world.

But, I'm sure they do like we do. We listen to our uses comments. We don't necessarily like them, but if we want our sites to grow, we listen and grow accordingly. We can't please anyone, so our own opinions have a lot to do with it.

For example, I had people complain about our column layout. I ran a poll to find out what our users would prefer. They were all over the place. I stuck with what I felt fit best (two columns of news). Slashdot obviously uses one. TheRegister users 3. NYTimes uses 2-ish. LAtimes uses 3. I satisfied some of our users, and the rest were either annoyed, or got over it.

If you don't like they way a place does their business, you don't have to shop there. :)

Re:This makes me want to send a rude email. (1)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782275)

By definition nothing under idol should make it to the font page.

Agreed. Throw me the idle, and I'll throw you the whip.

Notice to GM: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781509)

Please crush your cars. Thank you.

Just in case... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781513)

The last post, where the month is missing, is from June. Only day 9th in 2008 (so far) to land on a Monday. Boy, am I OCD.

Slashdot is losing it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781527)

More of the same......F Save this crap for the weekends.

You better do what he says (1)

nickswitzer (1352967) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781561)

BULLSHIT!! you have to or youll get a call from my dads lawyer buy Friday and then hell will rain down on you. DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!"

His dad's lawyer just bought a day of the week...he's got some awesome power in order to do that.

Re:You better do what he says (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781977)

whats up with the banner ad? if you don't remove it, my dad will SUE your dad!

Definition of Irony??? (2, Funny)

Jumperalex (185007) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781649)

"I normally don't take the time to write to anyone on the internet because they are so rude and closed minded ..." and let me guess, they're all prejudiced too???

MY EYES! (4, Funny)

Quasar1999 (520073) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781667)

I read the white on green text, and then when I scrolled down to the comments area with black on white text, I think I went temporarily blind, or had a seizure... Not sure...

How do you editors not go blind when creating the page?

Re:MY EYES! (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782093)

How do you editors not go blind when creating the page?

Because there are some things even they won't jerk of to?

Re:MY EYES! (1)

Spatial (1235392) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782237)

It doesn't even look like part of the page body. It looks like a gigantic header that goes straight to the comments...

Still, I think the best
part is how the edit
box is only this wide.
Perfect for all those
people who still use
320x240 as their screen
resolution.

Cars (5, Funny)

jadedoto (1242580) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781813)

I can imagine that...

"I'm buying this new slashdot car..."
"Oh good! Would you like us to crush it for you?"
"Most certainly, if you wouldn't mind!"


:| Troll.

The Troll Post Was Spot On. (0, Troll)

ElboRuum (946542) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781829)

I hereby move that we change a Troll moderation to a +1 value.

Be bold! (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782059)

"I hereby move that we change a Troll moderation to a +1 value."

I hereby move that you open your preferences [slashdot.org] and change your reason modifiers accordingly.

bizzaro slashdot (2, Insightful)

fragbait (209346) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781833)

With the white on green, this should be renamed to bizzaro slashdot. Add a goatee, too, while you are at it.

-fragbait

think of the children! (re: no white on green) (4, Insightful)

SABME (524360) | more than 6 years ago | (#24781869)

The white text on green background is very difficult to read. Please consider using the "boring" old black text on white background.

Please, please fucking stop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24781929)

Still on the front page, still in the RSS feed and still not funny.

So easy a troll could do it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782003)

This troll thing would be a great Geico commercial

Is being too dumb for the internet bannable? (1)

phoenixdna (936728) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782079)

When I read the angry complaints (especially the dude who has a lawyer ready to sue Slashdot for not deleting old comments) it just makes me think that maybe you should be able to ban someone for just being stupid. I mean, c'mon. And in my younger and more idle days I have been a troll. I have to admit that I don't see any good in it. Except that its often difficult to determine whether someone is actually trolling or not. Its not always clear.

"DO WHATS RIGHT AND GET RID OF ME!!!" (1)

AskFirefly (757114) | more than 6 years ago | (#24782127)

How can I get my co-workers to tell me that?

CRAPPIEST SLASHDOT FEATURE IN MORE THAN A DECADE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24782259)

This has to be the lamest thing i've ever read on this site. EVER

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