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Abit To Bow Out of Mainboard Market

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the market-dynamics dept.

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Steve Kerrison writes "Taiwanese technology firm Abit will be pulling out of the mainboard market at the end of this year. HEXUS.channel, citing sources close to South East Asian distributors, reports that the company will continue to deliver mainboard products until the end of 2008 and will still honour all warranties in subsequent years. Rumours of this decision circulated in May but were dismissed. Apparently the decision was made in the last couple of weeks. Abit is a popular brand amongst PC hardware enthusiasts, many of whom will be disappointed to see it leave the market."

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Did you know... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24783065)

Some women fellate horses for money.

Re:Did you know... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24783673)

Some guys fellate horses for the thrill of it. I knew I would if I got a chance.

Re:Did you know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24785757)

Be careful what you wish for. It's no fun having a broken jaw :(

RIP (3, Interesting)

everphilski (877346) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783071)

I think I'll fire up my dual processor 366 MHz BP-6 [bp6.com] for old times' sake.

Re:RIP (1)

jmenezes (100986) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784177)

Ah, the BP6.
One of the funnest computers I built for myself. Had my 366's OC'd to 602 for years, with a Matrox G400 for dual monitors, and a separate Promise card for a RAID setup.
Was great having a home computer that had twice the CPU, Monitor, RAM and Hard Drive that most people had at the time (and still nowadays, even)

Ran like a champ.
All for less then most people paid for a single 500MHz box at the time.
And for certain tasks, it still feels faster then a 1.xGHz Celeron box I had to deal with recently, despite being several years older.

Re:RIP (1)

knarf (34928) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785033)

No need to fire up the BP6 as it has been running more or less non-stop since I bought it in 1999. First as a workstation, later - and still - as a server. In tandem with a Webplayer [wikipedia.org] it serves all our needs. Eventually I will replace it with something smaller and less power-hungry but for now it seems content serving our net from underneath the stairs...

Re:RIP (3, Interesting)

T5 (308759) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785551)

Mine ran dual 300 Celerons overclocked to 504 MHz for *years* with only the slightest of hitches: at power on after being off for a few hours, I'd have to hold the power button in for 4 seconds to turn it off, then immediately hit the power again. It would run indefinitely after that.

That was truly an amazing product for several reasons. First, Celerons weren't supposed to run in an MP configuration. Second, the main engineer for that board, who went by the Westernized name of "Rocky", was 18 years old when he did the work. Third, understand that at this time the fastest PII processors were 450 MHz. Essentially the machine in question was the first gigahertz (504 x 2) box that I'd ever seen.

Re:RIP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24799693)

504x2 in MP != 1008mhz.

Especially for that time, there was almost nothing practical that took much advantage of 2 processors anyway. :P

Capacitors (3, Insightful)

Ark42 (522144) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783099)

Abit was the only brand of motherboards I knew of that acknowledged the capacitors problem and claimed to use 100% known-good Japanese caps in their boards. With them gone, does that leave any good companies, or will all motherboards still be doomed to leaky budging and exploding capacitors?

Re:Capacitors (1)

pegr (46683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783159)

Wow, didn't see you post that before my tirade, but, when it comes to bad caps, Abit is just as guilty as anyone else. I have the boards to prove it.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783309)

and you can send them in and they will replace them .. either the whole board or the caps..

Re:Capacitors (1)

jonnythan (79727) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783391)

They refused to fix or replace my KT7 back in the day after too many caps had finally blown.

Re:Capacitors (2, Insightful)

Amouth (879122) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783615)

i'm very supprised.. all of the boards we had with bad caps they replaced with no questions.

at first they didn't but after about 2 months of them being out and they made the public acknowlagement - they replaced them

Re:Capacitors (2, Informative)

Ark42 (522144) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786537)

Yeah, Abit *was* just as guilty, when the problem was first noticed, but they admitted there was a problem, and took a stance of Japanese-only caps later on. Newer boards from Asus and Epox have STILL had bad caps as recently as a year ago, while Abit boards no longer have any problems. This is from my limited experience with all my relatives and friends that I buy parts for and/or fix computers for.

Re:Capacitors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24783343)

I thought that problem was temporary, the cause found and avoided. Are there still boards with bad capacitors in the market?

Re:Capacitors (1)

doas777 (1138627) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784923)

nope. they we're pretty much worked out of the market by '04. the problem appearently had something to do with poor industrial espionage, leading to Korean factories producing sub-par caps (one that did not allow hydrogen to escape as needed). Hence the reason my BIOS splash reminds me daily that my Mobo was made with 100% Japanese capicators.

Re:Capacitors (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783365)

I hardly think this a problem any more.

My MSI K9N neo has all solid caps, and thankfully it seems many boards are going this way, filtering in from the high end down.

Re:Capacitors (1)

boredandatwork (1339259) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783377)

Abit was the only brand of motherboards I knew of that acknowledged the capacitors problem and claimed to use 100% known-good Japanese caps in their boards. With them gone, does that leave any good companies, or will all motherboards still be doomed to leaky budging and exploding capacitors?

Can you please explain when this started happening? Cause unless this is a recent development, and if you would like to pay shipping, I can offer you a motherboard that says otherwise.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Xest (935314) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783681)

Indeed, I'm intrigued also as I've yet to have any problem with capacitors on my various motherboards through the ages.

I know at work there was a dodgy batch of MSI motherboards with capacitors that blew but it was literally just a single batch.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785367)

Read around the thread; They've admitted liability. Get in touch with them and tell them your caps have started leaking. They should sort you out.

Re:Capacitors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24783479)

I've been using Gigabyte lately, namely their all-solid-capacitor models. No liquid caps to explode on those.

Re:Capacitors (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783779)

Giga-Byte

Re:Capacitors (1)

Wowlapalooza (1339989) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783985)

The original poster had it right: "gigabyte" is the brand name. The global site is http://www.gigabyte.com.tw./ [gigabyte.com.tw] Perhaps you were confused by the fact that the U.S. site is http://www.giga-byte.com/ [giga-byte.com] but that's probably only because http://www.gigabyte.com/ [gigabyte.com] was already taken by some stupid web-design company.

Am I a Gigabyte fanboi? You bet I am. Good riddance to Abit and their leaky caps.

Re:Capacitors (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785205)

What is wrong with Abit? We've used them in the shop for our budget boards for ages and never had a problem. My SG80 is purring like a kitten,running so good in fact I'm picking up a P4 3.4GHz just so I can finally say I've upgraded it as far as it could go(within reason). But we never had any problems with the caps,or those weird driver issues that'll drive you nuts. In fact we've had more trouble out of those cheapy "consumer special" Dell and Compaqs than we ever had out of Abit.

It is just a shame I wasn't able to find an SG81 as I would have liked to have a Pentium D(the SG80 only supports P4) So I could have used it for a great multimedia box after I build me a dual or quad core AMD next year. But I've put my little SG80 through hell with the CPU maxed out to 100% for hours while re-encoding video and it has been banged up on at least two moves and so far it has been the second most solid and stable machine I've ever run(The first being the 8 year old HP Pavilion "Knucklebuster" I'm typing this on that has been running Win2K without a single bit of trouble for 8 years without rest) so I for one will say I'm really sorry to see them go. They made really good budget boards for those of us who don't care about quad-SLI or needing an AC unit just for the PC. Maybe I'll get lucky and make enough extra to grab one of their high end boards before they're gone. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV

Re:Capacitors (1)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784297)

I was a big Abit fan until I had to return a faulty motherboard to NewEgg. Purchasing items online leaves no tolerance for that sort of thing.

Ever since then, I've only bought Asus boards, and I've been completely satisfied.

Re:Capacitors (1)

pyite (140350) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784765)

I was a big Abit fan until I had to return a faulty motherboard to NewEgg. Purchasing items online leaves no tolerance for that sort of thing.

Uhh, components fail. Having one failure is hardly a statistically significant sample. It could have been Asus, it could have been Intel, it could have been anyone.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786599)

I have a zero tolerance policy.

Anyway, a lot of other people had the same problem with that board.

Re:Capacitors (1)

pyite (140350) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786921)

I have a zero tolerance policy.

And that makes no sense as it does not take into account how hardware fails and plain old statistics.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 5 years ago | (#24787317)

So if I buy a product that sucks, I'm supposed to say, "Well gee, this could have happened to any company. I will give them a second chance."

Companies aren't all that compassionate, why should consumers be?

Re:Capacitors (1)

pyite (140350) | more than 5 years ago | (#24790185)

So if I buy a product that sucks, I'm supposed to say, "Well gee, this could have happened to any company. I will give them a second chance."

"Sucks" is a very subjective term. There's a difference between you making a subjective decision that "this product isn't for me" and saying under the guise of objectivity that "this product failed so it must suck."

Re:Capacitors (1)

Xtravar (725372) | more than 5 years ago | (#24792865)

Well, shit, I give up!

I'll continue on doing what works for me. Maybe you should buy two items from every vendor that sells me one faulty one, just to even out this grave injustice.

Re:Capacitors (1)

ckaminski (82854) | more than 5 years ago | (#24798201)

I have a zero tolerance problem with companies that choose to make it hard to fix/repair their defective shit: ECS, I'm looking at you!

Dodgy manufacturers shift support responsibility onto retailers, but when those retailers are horrible (not newegg, thank the godz), they refuse to pony up and support you.

Promise... now you are amazing, yes, I had to give you my credit card number before you'd cross-ship the warranty replacement, but you did, and it only cost me shipping.

ECS, you morons left me with no alternative but to return the hardware (that caught FIRE!) and initiate a chargeback to your shoddy retailer. Thanks.

So ECS, of whom I've only had ONE bad experience with poor manufacturing, loses me as a customer because of ONE poor problem resolution experience.

I know, as an armchair engineer, in a machine with thousands of delicate, fragile parts made in quantities of millions, that defects can and will occur. I can forgive defects. I can't forgive poor service.

Re:Capacitors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24813287)

I have a zero tolerance policy.

And that makes no sense as it does not take into account how hardware fails and plain old statistics.

That's right. If I took that policy, I would not buy Western Digital, Maxtor, Seagate, Fujitsu, IBM (well, Hitachi now that IBM sold the HD division..), and probably 1 or 2 brands I've forgotten, hard drives. BUT, that's drives I've bought over the last 20 years.

        Really the way to go is 1) Don't buy something when it's JUST been released. It might be a lemon! 2) Look at reviews (even after it's been out a month or two) and see if people are complaining (too often) of faulty product (one or two complaints are inevitable, from shipping damage or a faulty part or two getting out.)

          Even the top-tier will succumb and make a "budget" version of their products sometimes; sometimes it's a good bargain, sometimes it is substandard and it's actually cheap junk.

            Conversely, drive makers (or other product makers) have made a whole serious that is junk, then realized their sales will drop to approximately 0 if they don't shape up... so they do. Shortly before Gateway bought them, even E-Machines went from making junk that broke down right away to machines with low-end parts in them (that weren't great, but didn't break down.)

Re:Capacitors (1)

HuguesT (84078) | more than 5 years ago | (#24795635)

Receiving a bad part is good evidence of a faulty manufacturing process around the time of purchase, but maybe they had improved after that? Even great manufacturers go through bad patches : IBM (disks), Sony, Apple, etc. Usually the situation corrects itself or the company doesn't stay in business.

Re:Capacitors (1)

Jorophose (1062218) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786935)

Gigabyte uses sold-state Japanese caps on a lot of its motherboards.

They work well with linux, and have got a lot of overclocking options (for those of you into that sort of stuff). With Asus seemingly moving towards actual computers (their latest boards are lackluster compared to the gigabyte ones, sort of like nvidia chipsets) Gigabyte is filling their void.

(not a shill, just satisfied gigabyte customer)

Re:Capacitors (2, Informative)

Agripa (139780) | more than 5 years ago | (#24802247)

Many of the motherboard makers including Gigibyte and Asus have switched to using OSCON style solid electrolytic capacitors which do not suffer from the same problems that normal aluminum electrolytic capacitors do. While they like to brag about how noble this makes them, I suspect the real reason is that it just became more economical because of the increasingly stringent requirements for the processor's voltage regulator. In designs where the capacitors' equivalent series inductance and resistance have become fundamental limitations, the higher cost for OSCON style parts can cross over with the cost of using many more aluminum electrolytics.

No so disappointed... (0, Redundant)

pegr (46683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783119)

As I was when my KG7 and KT7 both quit last month with bad caps. To heck with ABIT!

Re:No so disappointed... (0, Redundant)

pegr (46683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24789455)

Hey mods! This was post number two! Redundant? You're a bunch of dumb fcks!

Re:No so disappointed... (1)

pegr (46683) | more than 5 years ago | (#24841343)

//Post calling mods a bunch of dumb fcks modded redundant... Priceless!

Price jump on the way? (1)

Underfoot (1344699) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783325)

Given the generally good quality of Abit main/motherboards, and the fact that they were reasonably priced: will the loss of their competition raise the price of their competitors? Or is the market broad enough this won't impact the price points? (I would place them in the same field as Asus / ASrock / MSI / BIOSTAR / Foxconn / etc.)

Either way. It is a loss.

Re:Price jump on the way? (1)

Depili (749436) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783385)

My experiences of abit boards are nothing less of horrible. For example the AB9 Pro motherboard's bios didn't use ACHI or left a whole sata-controller uninitialized depending on the version.

So good riddance, where can I get my lost hair back?

Computers are like TVs now. (5, Informative)

BitterOldGUy (1330491) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783345)

It looks like the margins have become too tight for all but the largest mainboard makers to survive, with massive companies like Foxconn able to exploit extreme economies of scale.

Which is exactly what the TV industry went through. Even the big players left and licensed their names to Chinese companies. Do you really think the Sony TV is really a Sony? Or RCA or GE .... It's just a commodity.

The margins are just too low to even bother with them.

Re:Computers are like TVs now. (1)

RManning (544016) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783659)

Do you really think the Sony TV is really a Sony? Or RCA or GE ....

I did! Citation? URL?

Re:Computers are like TVs now. (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783825)

Sony still makes their own screens. RCA is owned by the Chinese now. I'm pretty sure you're right about GE though.

Re:Computers are like TVs now. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24784349)

Pretty sure samsung makes sonys LCD panels. sony assemble them though and use own mainboards.

Desktop Computers are like Mainframe computer now (1)

jessedorland (1320611) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784069)

It's ture computers are becoming a commodity, however, it's only ture for Desktop PC. In 90s having a computer was consider something special, and fashionable. However, as time went buy people got tired of big ugly desktop, and they were replace with towers, and then smaller towers like Shuttle XPC, iMac. This is why people are not longer buy PC anymore, they prefer notebooks, because users can carry then and thanks to wifi it can be connect to internet. Which is why Notebooks types of computers still commands the PC markets. I think we are reaching a point where we will see less and less of big huge computers -- after all it did happen to Mainframe computers.

First it was SIS, and now Abit. So, at the rate we are going in five to ten years motherboard companies will no longer exist..

Re:Desktop Computers are like Mainframe computer n (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784557)

You do know that there is still a motherboard in notebooks right? It is different but it is still there.

Re:Desktop Computers are like Mainframe computer n (1)

ckaminski (82854) | more than 5 years ago | (#24798281)

Yea, but in five years you'll have System-on-Chip with Infiniband hubs to your external peripherals.

Motherboards will be things of the past.

Re:Computers are like TVs now. (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786515)

Sony doesn't license their name out, though they do have other companies make many of their products and components for them, then Sony sells those products under their own name. I think Toshiba rebadges someone else's TV with their branding for at least some models.

Westinghouse is another one of those names that was licensed to some other company to make TVs and computer monitors.

Conspiracy? (1)

nickswitzer (1352967) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783397)

I think Abit is the manufacturer of my girlfriend's computer who's motherboard just died. It better be coincidence only!

Sad to see them go (1)

phyrestang (638793) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783649)

I've been using exclusively Abit boards for my main PC for the last 6-7 years or so. I've loved every one of them, KR7A-RAID, IC7-MAX3, and now the IN9 32X-MAX are the ones that stick out in my memory best. Always top quality, and top performance.

Re:Sad to see them go (1)

n1ckml007 (683046) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783771)

Yes the ABIT IC7-MAX3 is still an awesome board (I'm sadly still using it). I disconnected a (northbridge?) fan that was making too much noise, and my SATA DVD drive disappeared with I tried to overclock my P4 3.2ghz chip, other than that it's still running strong. It replaced an ASUS board which after 4 RMAs still wasn't working, the IC7-MAX3 worked the 1st time.

Re:Sad to see them go (1)

bryansj (89051) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784013)

I'm still using an IC7 (dash nothing) and it has been working very well until the last few months with a minor issue. This is the longest that I've ever used the same PC (five years). I disconnected the motherboard fan due to noise within the first year and never had any problems. Now the only issue that I have is that I have to hold its hand while rebooting. It often freezes at the initiation screen. Simply resetting it gets it to properly boot. Before that I only used Abit boards and built about 25 PCs back in the day and used mostly Abit on those and any time that I used something else I had stability issues.

Re:Sad to see them go (1)

tixxit (1107127) | more than 5 years ago | (#24788409)

I ran an Abit IC7-G with a P4 2.6GHz overclocked to 3.2 for 4 years. Good machine, good board.

Re:Sad to see them go (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24789503)

Funny, I have the exact same thing with my IC7. The Northbridge fan got too loud within weeks IIRC, and I unplugged it without problems. And often when I need to reboot it, I get no beeps and no screen output. Hit the reset button and all is well. I vaguely recall tying this back to a problem with AGP video card (Radeon 9700 Pro?).

Re:Sad to see them go - ABIT IC7-MAX3 (1)

nevermore94 (789194) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784153)

Yes, I love my ABIT IC7-MAX3. Still my main desktop computer at home, although I primarily use my laptop for most things these days, it still makes a great file and print server. Plus, it's got a lot of funky lights: http://bis.midco.net/black/ [midco.net]

Re:Sad to see them go - ABIT IC7-MAX3 (1)

n1ckml007 (683046) | more than 5 years ago | (#24793617)

cool LED chipset fan, I found that my 92mm heatsink fan pushes enough air to cool the northbridge despite the disconnected mobo fan.

Re:Sad to see them go - ABIT IC7-MAX3 (1)

n1ckml007 (683046) | more than 5 years ago | (#24793687)

Oh did you ever notice that the BIOS will change the boot order of devices if you plug in a new HDD? I reformatted my computer before I figured out the MOBO was changing the boot order on its own. I'm sorry Dave...

Re:Sad to see them go (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784795)

you're on crack. IN9 32X-Max board was a dismal failure in terms of product quality and actual function. Certain high level Abit officials have already made comments suggesting that they knew the boards didn't work when they sold them. Abit RMA'd most of their production runs from that model. Though most of the blame lays on nvidia for a crappy chipset and faulty memory controller design, the real blame lays on the company who wrote the BIOS software and the company who sold it to me.

Re:Sad to see them go (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24785303)

Certain high level Abit officials have already made comments suggesting that they knew the boards didn't work when they sold them.

Cite or STFU.

Re:Sad to see them go (1)

phyrestang (638793) | more than 5 years ago | (#24796643)

I'm aware of the reputation the IN9 32X-MAX has garnered, and I'm sure it may be deserved. However, I haven't had any issues with mine, and it is running like a champ. Though I've not gotten around to overclocking with it yet as I'm piecing together a watercooling setup and am still using the stock Intel cooler. I'm not expecting much of an overclock from it, but that's ok. This board will get me through for a while, then I'll look for something preferably in an Intel chipset.

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ABit BH-6 + Celeron 300A = full of Win (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783831)

I remember getting the Abit BH-6 and the Celeron 300A which easily took to overclocking @ 450mhz.

Most stable, rock solid board I've ever owned.

RIP.

Re:ABit BH-6 + Celeron 300A = full of Win (1)

Skuld-Chan (302449) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786777)

I had one of the first ABIT soft-set motherboards (I put an AMD K6-200 in there to give you the vintage) - to be honest it was a piece of crap. It frequently forgot the settings and forced you to go into the bios.

I got it replaced because it died one day, and the one that replaced it wasn't much better.

Sadly - last abit board I ever had.

Re:ABit BH-6 + Celeron 300A = full of Win (1)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 5 years ago | (#24787365)

I had one of those and it was wonderful. It was really cool to have more-or-less the fastest computer that any of us had ever seen back in high school, to impress all of my other nerd friends. I was even able to overclock it to 504mhz for a bit, but it was a little unstable.

Laptops are replacing desktops (1)

jessedorland (1320611) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783833)

If you think about it's true. More and more people are buying laptops, or portable computers like Shuttle XPC, Mac Mini.This is why companies like VIA, and Abits are quiting they have seen writing on the wall.
After all it makes sense why built $3000 desktop just to upgrade when you can buy a decent laptop for $800.

Re:Laptops are replacing desktops (0, Redundant)

Kelz (611260) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784241)

More like: They were making boards with terrible capacitors and voltage regulators, had no customer service to speak of at all, and completely neglected to support their products with software after releasing. They used to be great, but right now? Happy to see them yield some shelf-space to better manufacturers.

Re:Laptops are replacing desktops (1)

The Gaytriot (1254048) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785553)

Considering VIA is one of the top makers of boards for very small form factor PC's and mobile electronics that makes no sense.

Plus you can completely gut and upgrade a desktop for $300 that will blow an $800 laptop out of the water.

Re:Laptops are replacing desktops (1)

ckaminski (82854) | more than 5 years ago | (#24798389)

VIA is more likely to be moving to System on a Chip setups. I don't see them getting out of the ITX business anytime soon.

ABIT... Not sad to see them go (0, Redundant)

TypoNAM (695420) | more than 5 years ago | (#24783959)

All ABIT motherboards I have ever owned had bad capacitors even though they claimed they didn't. I have owned the KT7E with the AMD Athlon XP 160++ and it ran OK for the first year and then ever since it couldn't run for more than a few days without becoming fubared. I then looked over the motherboard carefully and noticed the capacitors were going bad, so I went and got myself an NF7 nForce2 MB w/ an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ and didn't even think about RMA'ing since I figured at the time the KT7E was pretty much aging anyway and I didn't care for VIA chipsets to begin with. The first NF7 had to be RMA'd cause it hardly ever posted fully even then the second the nvidia drivers loaded up for the AGP card (GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64MB AGP 8X) it crapped out. So, I did cross shipping which worked out great (had to pay full price up front for the board and then they would refund you the cost except shipping when they did receive the defective MB).

The board I received of the NF7 was in fact newer and had the 2.0 board revision with the new 400FSB chipset. Worked great for nearly two years and then again POST wouldn't go successfully. RMA'd again and this time I got back a motherboard that has memory issues. Try running Opera for half an hour and browsing around and get graphical glitches where half the window wouldn't render. Try playing Steam games and 1/3 of it wouldn't render and games crashed to desktop.

So, then I figured why not try replacing the 512MB stick I was using with 3x512MB newer from newegg. I did that and did not solve memory corruption issue. So then I tried with getting a GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X to replace my aging GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64MB AGP 8X. No go, still memory corruption issues.

You might ask why didn't I RMA a third time? Well, I didn't notice the issues until two months later (was busy with college work to do any serious gaming or anything) when my warranty expired on the motherboard. So I suffered with that crap for a while then this past christmas I saved up enough I got myself an ASUS Maximus Extreme board with a Q6600, 2GB (2x1GB sticks) RAM, and a GeForce 8600 GTS 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 card, and I have been enjoying it ever since, but it hasn't been a year or two yet so I cannot vouch for how long lasting it is. :)

Re:ABIT... Not sad to see them go (1)

joshtheitguy (1205998) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784533)

I got myself an ASUS Maximus Extreme board with a Q6600, 2GB (2x1GB sticks) RAM, and a GeForce 8600 GTS 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 card, and I have been enjoying it ever since, but it hasn't been a year or two yet so I cannot vouch for how long lasting it is. :)

I've most likely built 20-30 computers and have always used ASUS boards. My mom has one of the systems I built in 2001 with a A7V266 board which is still running strong with no issues. My current M2N32-SLI has survived a catastrophic PSU failure and all the other various things I subject my PCs to. I'll vouch they are long lasting.

Re:ABIT... Not sad to see them go (1)

TheDreadedGMan (1122791) | more than 5 years ago | (#24789965)

well I'm still using an Abit NF7-S v2.0 board at home.. have been since buying it used in 2003.

It is occasionally flaky every couple months I will have to screw around with it a little to get it to post, but getting 5 years out of it I've been pretty happy with it.

Seems quick enough, and some people will know the NVidia Nforce 2 Ultra's South bridge contains a quite decent onboard sound chip, similar to the XBOX (v1) sound chip, the NVidia SoundStorm...

That's all for now

At least some closure (1)

Kelz (611260) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784051)

My motherboard was never great to begin with, but they haven't released new drivers or a bios update in over 2 years, and the board has only been out for 3. This means the motherboard doesn't support more than 2.5GB of ram even though it can theoretically support 8GB, and is one of the reasons I'm not running Vista right now. Abit seemed to go way down hill after socket AM2 and 754 came out.

Then again, with board manufacturers all over the place (Palit, Zotac, Asus, Intel, Foxconn, ECS *shudder*, Gigabyte, MSI, and many others), I don't think they'll be terribly missed in the Mobo business. Popularity (in the enthusiast market at least) usually come down to who has the impression of best software.

Their terminology dooms them (0, Troll)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784213)

Anyone who calls a motherboard a 'mainboard' deserves to fail.

Re:Their terminology dooms them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24785277)

Apple seems to be doing rather well with 'logic board'.

Re:Their terminology dooms them (1)

mikiN (75494) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786425)

Anyone who calls a motherboard a 'mainboard' deserves to fail.

To call it a mainboard is the PC way (yes it's a pun). Or would you rather have Fathers for Justice coming after you for being gender-biased? Wouldn't fatherboards be able to take care of all those electronics too?
BTW, why are all CPU's heterosexual males anyway? They always mate with female sockets.

Re:Their terminology dooms them (1)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 5 years ago | (#24790795)

You say motherboard / daughterboard. I guess fatherboard / sonboard just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Compare mother cell / daughter cell in biology.

IBM always used to call it a 'planar' which at least sounds suitably nerdy.

Re:Their terminology dooms them (1)

FoamingToad (904595) | more than 5 years ago | (#24791607)

"why are all CPU's heterosexual males anyway? They always mate with female sockets." Intel 775s have the pins on the mainboard. The processors have flat electrical contacts.

Re:Their terminology dooms them (1)

mikiN (75494) | more than 5 years ago | (#24792455)

Thank goodness! Emancipation at last. It probably shows my age and lack of finances that I'm still using a Socket 478 mainboard/CPU from before the sexual revolution.

Abit was still making mobos? (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 5 years ago | (#24784343)

Abit is a popular brand amongst PC hardware enthusiasts, many of who will be disappointed to see it leave the market.

In the late 90s and early 00s maybe. They've been more of a problem-child as of late. Frankly, I thought they were already out of the market.

Re:Abit was still making mobos? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24784993)

The old Abit died a couple years ago. The current Universal Abit [wikipedia.org] company has sucked since then.

About Time! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24784375)

I used to be a big Abit supporter, but the last three Abit boards I had were screwy in one way or another. On the last board I had, a fan went out. I called Abit support, and the company wanted me to pay $10 plus shipping for a replacement, even though the motherboard was less than a year old and still under warranty. I told the support rep to stuff the fan.

I've never bought an Abit product since. And if that was a common experience with the company's support arm, I'm not surprised it's exiting the consumer market. Good riddance!

Hmm.. (1)

Traze (1167415) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785309)

I used to use Abit years ago. Never had any issues myself. Asus user now, and don't know if I'd go back, even with out this.

Impossible (0, Redundant)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 5 years ago | (#24785371)

I just bought a Gigabyte motherboard last month, so they're the only manufacturer allowed to get out of the business this year.

about time. (1)

Deathlizard (115856) | more than 5 years ago | (#24786985)

First VIA drops Chipsets, and now Abit drops boards. Couldn't happen to a better MB manufacturer.

Worst board I ever owned was an Abit KT7A. To this day I'm convinced that Abit Golden Sampled the reviews of that board.

My KT7A was blue screen after Kernel Panic after lockup, And half the time, it would corrupt the drive even though it would pass every hard drive, Processor and Memory test known to man. Abit Finally put out a BIOS that removed the suck from it, but it was pretty much EOL when it came out and cut 1/4th of it's speed. Finally I said the Hell with it, got a NForce based MSI K7N420 and all of the crashes magically disappeared even when pushed to it's absolute bandwidth limit. Never looked back from there.

Another friend of mine bought an Abit board (I can't remember what it was, it was a socket 370 MB) and it wouldn't boot from a floppy disk or CDROM but would boot from a hard disk. RAM and CPU tested OK in an Gigabyte board, so we RMA'd the board and got another one with the exact same problem. Took them 4 months to update the bios for it, and good luck installing the BIOS update when it can't boot from 2 of the three boot medias. Good thing he had a internal zip drive handy.

Only Board they had worth anything was the BE6, and I'd take an Aopen AX6BC over that board anyday. The AX6BC line is still the most stable board line I've ever seen. I've seen lightning strikes take out most components in a system but the AX6BC still survived.

let's hope they go into the ulta mobile laptop biz (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 5 years ago | (#24789025)

they had good support and a good product so let's hope they still have a foot in the market. UMPs might be a good place for them to shine again.

LoB

sad to hear, but (1)

TeraHybrid (935879) | more than 5 years ago | (#24794025)

kind of explains why my last MoBo "AB9 Pro" was a POS, they never fixed the firmware, now I'm not hoping they will.
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