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Comcast To Cap Data Transfers At 250 GB In October

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the crimp-in-your-style dept.

The Internet 939

JagsLive writes with this story from PC Magazine: "Comcast has confirmed that all residential customers will be subject to a 250 gigabyte per month data limit starting October 1. 'This is the same system we have in place today,' Comcast wrote in an amendment to its acceptable use policy. 'The only difference is that we will now provide a limit by which a customer may be contacted.' The cable provider insisted that 250 GB is "an extremely large amount of data, much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis. ... As part of our pre-existing policy, we will continue to contact the top users of our high-speed Internet service and ask them to curb their usage,' Comcast said Thursday. 'If a customer uses more than 250 GB and is one of the top users of our service, he or she may be contacted by Comcast to notify them of excessive use,' according to the AUP."

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So much for unlimited internet (4, Funny)

ericspinder (146776) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787599)

Looks like I got fios just in time

The swine ! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787883)

How can I possibly make it through a month at 250 G? I, um, have a condition, yeah, that's it, that requires I download unlimited amounts of data from the internet. This is cause an undue hardship. As if comcast has the RIGHT to take this from me. If my connection weren't actually my neighbors, I'd SUE THEIR ASSES pronto!

So what shall I do Slashdot? How can I get my umlimited back? Get a bigger Wifi antenna? I heard about that but what about bandwidth?

Re:So much for unlimited internet (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787915)

ha, them Verizon bastards won't be far behind on capping their crap, remember they were ones that backed comcrap in their bt killing efforts.

Re:So much for unlimited internet (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788071)

How can people on the internet be such stupid cunts? There is no such motherfucking thing as unlimited service.

Anybody know of a good webhost? (2, Funny)

Underfunded (1039600) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787625)

Time to find a new home for my Pr0n server. :(

Which is absolutely fine (5, Insightful)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787627)

Provided they tell you that up front. Not telling you and still capping your service is most charitably considered sleazy and is hopefully something they could get sued/prosecuted for.

And what about the screwing around with P2P traffic? Are they still going to do that and pretend that they aren't?

Re:Which is absolutely fine (5, Insightful)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787717)

I agree... about time they finally told us what their REAL bandwidth limit is.

Now the next step is throttling connections when they reach 80% of that limit, so that they won't exceed it (Reach 80% of that 20%, and they'll throttle it even more, and so on). Then you can pay an extra amount of money for a larger bandwidth cap, like 500GB or 1TB per month.

Ta-da! Everybody happy.

God I hate niggers (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788007)

I hate black gangster bastards with their fat lips and shit colored faces. I wish they'd all stop trying to be something they're not. Niggers are closer to monkeys than white people. They belong either in a field picking cotton or in a zoo. And there's a sign that says, "Don't feed the nigger.. or give him drugs."

Ya know what else I hate? Indians.

I can't stand fat, drunk Native American bastards that take all our tax money and bitch that they're still being affected by their ancestors who died 200 years ago. "Boohoo, I'm 1/64 Chippawa and my great, great, great, great, great grandpa died of Small Pox because of you. Now give me $1000/month." Fuck no and fuck you. Whites won fair and square.

See, wars have winners and losers. White people went to war with Indians, and whites won. It's The United States of America now. Shut up and deal with it.

"Waa, boohoo, our heritage is being lost." Fuck that. Who gives a shit about heritage? Whites don't even care about their stupid heritage. It's all the same shit. Stop acting like you're special. You're a human like everybody else. A stupid, fat, lazy, primitive looking human, but a human none-the-less.

Ya know what else I hate? Gooks. Fucking chink bastards should be nuked.

Why couldn't the US have nuked Japan right off the map? I don't understand why they stopped at two cities. If you start a job, you might as well finish it.

Along the same lines, how come nobody stood up to take Hitler's place in eliminating the world of those whiney, greedy, kike bastards?

I hate every ethnicity. I think there should be a new Olympic sport where you put samples of every race into a field and they all get weapons and have to kill eachother. Then the the last team left standing wins a cheesy plastic medal, and then is quickly shot by riflemen and eaten by hungry white men with tobasco sauce and salsa.

250 GB (5, Funny)

pwnies (1034518) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787629)

...should be enough for anybody.

Re:250 GB (0)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787797)

For now. It will probably suck in the future. I remember getting excited over getting a hard drive over a MB (I know, I should have got a life [grin]).

Re:250 GB (4, Funny)

pwnies (1034518) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787817)

*WHOOSH*

Re:250 GB (3, Funny)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787909)

I was just going to Whoosh myself... smacked my forehead like a V8 soon as I clicked submit... yeah... famous Gatesism [bows head in shame]

Re:250 GB (4, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787905)

For now. It will probably suck in the future.

It sucks already. If you watch one HD movie a day, you'll exceed the quota.
Of course, Comcast wants you to watch HD movies through their expensive pay-per-view service instead of downloading them...

Re:250 GB (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787975)

While I have, in the past, gone over 250 Gb (on a service limited to 60 Gb!), it was with some pretty extreme use.

Who watches an HD movie every day, anyway? I'm extremely nerdy and still I can't possibly watch movies that long in a month.

Re:250 GB (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788041)

Who watches an HD movie every day, anyway?

Every girlfriend, fiancee and wife I've ever had. Well, they didn't need it to be HD, but a movie a day was par for course.

Okay folks (5, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787645)

I want my FIOS.
I want congress to SMACK THE TELCOS HARD. They have been collecting Billions of dollars in fees to provide Broadband and have delivered nothing.
I want the money paid back with interest NOW!

Great sentiment... (2, Insightful)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787849)

I agree with you, in general.

However, this move looks like a positive thing. Comcast always limited you, but it was always an arbitrary amount, which you wouldn't know till they banned you for a year. More recently, they pinned it down in terms of "songs", "videos", "pictures", "emails", etc.

This means you could conceivably sue Comcast if they raised a fuss and you were under your 250 gig limit.

Re:Great sentiment... (2, Insightful)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787971)

Well, my router tracks my bandwidth usage, so now I'll know if I'm getting close. If nothing else, I guess that Comcast can't use the word "unlimited" in their marketing anymore. That's a good thing, I suppose.

If a customer uses more than 250 GB and is one of the top users of our service, he or she may be contacted by Comcast to notify them of excessive use

Does that mean "given notice of termination"? I wouldn't put it past Comcast to just terminate those accounts, notice or otherwise.

Re:Okay folks (5, Interesting)

Brain Damaged Bogan (1006835) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788015)

you are complaining about 250Gb?!? jeez, In Aus I have to pay $120/month (~$100US) for 25gb onpeak, 40gb offpeak ( that's 65gb/month for those of you who suck at math). I WISH I was in a position to bitch about 250gb/month.

Re:Okay folks (4, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788047)

You forget....

They also collected billions in TAX DOLLARS to fund the build out of their infrastructure.

I say the Feds audit every one of them hard.

Just get a business acct... (5, Informative)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787647)

I'm sure comcast offers a business connection. I have one from Cox...great service...low level SLA, quick response (they call ME back after I leave a msg if a live person doesn't answer). You get static IP address(es), no limits...no blocked ports....etc.

And hell, if you're a little devious...those connections will run fine split into a MythTV box with an analog card, to get all of extended basic, and if you split that off into a HDHomerun...you can scan and get all the unencrypted QAM Digital and HD channels out there.

At least..so I hear. Anyway, that should more than compensate for a slightly higher monthly fee for internet service....

Re:Just get a business acct... (1)

halsver (885120) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787791)

I just wanted to thank you, your mention of HDHomerun was the first time I had seen a box which can handle QAM signals. Had I heard about this a month ago, I might be using it right now instead of the box from Cox.

Still practically unlimited for most (0, Troll)

AdamHaun (43173) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787657)

That's still not much of a limit. 250GB/month is over 8GB/day. I don't think I downloaded that much even when I was on a college connection.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (1)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787727)

Don't see what's not right in front of your face, do you?

Boiling a lobster [slashdot.org] works the same way.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787729)

Wait until you start downloading Blu-Ray from content delivery services.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788011)

I am happy with DVD content (no, really, my TV is only 28" and 4:3). I am fine with them charging people more (or, that is, not charging me more) if they want to use a giant pile of bandwidth to watch the shiny.

Of course, now they need to start breaking it out; keeping a line connected has costs regardless of the bandwidth used, so they should be able to provide a second 250 GB of bandwidth for a whole lot less (in areas that aren't congested anyway).

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787863)

Download? How much does say 12 on 12 Team Fortress 2 push over say 4 hours? What about over 100 hours in a month? Let's throw in the regular YouTube-ness, maybe a couple linux iso's for the month you're up for a new distro or whatever, a couple more cause sometimes there's a problem with the image. And a nice streaming music service for the background, maybe like Sirius, or C 89.5 in Seattle? 250 GB is a lot, but is it outside of the entire 'legitimate' range of use currently? I HIGHLY doubt it.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (3, Informative)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787957)

All those examples put together won't come anywhere near 250 GB.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (5, Interesting)

arth1 (260657) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787873)

If I flood your IP address, 250 GB can disappear pretty fast, and there's really nothing you can do about it. Whether your router drops the packets or not, they'll still be counted against your quota.

Similar if you fire up a p2p program, and download a video or game level or whatever. Once you end it, thousands of other people are still going to be sending packets to your IP address, checking whether you're back online and can share the file.
And it gets worse -- it doesn't even have to be you. Someone else might have done heavy file sharing, and then in the periodic reassignment of IP addresses that Comcast does (to prevent people from running servers), you get that IP. And all the request traffic, which can continue at high volume for days or weeks.

These are all weaknesses with the IP protocol, but it hardly seems fair not to have a system that takes this into consideration.

Is this a problem? Well, according to my router, I have had 18 GB in traffic (in + out) for the month of July for one of my WAN lines. According to the provider, it's been 27 GB. That's a rather big discrepancy. At the same ratio, if your router tells you you have used 180 GB out of the 250, you won't have 70 GB to go, you will already have exceeded the quota and are subject to whatever disciplinary actions Comcast might have in place.

Re:Still practically unlimited for most (4, Insightful)

gruntled (107194) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787875)

Hmm. Would this include upload as well? I'm thinking that if you happened to have a number of highly desirable files in your P2P folder, other people grabbing a copy of your content might kick you up. Might this actually be the objective of such "reasonable" caps, to make people think twice before hosting such content?

sheesh (1, Redundant)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787663)

thats about 1mbit average for the whole month

in comparison i have server clusters pushing ~1.5 gbit average in certain US datacenter @ 5$ / mbit / month outgoing

Re:sheesh (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787687)

Sounds like you need to find a better data center.

Re:sheesh (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787741)

O wow, you have servers that use more data than is offered for a residential cable user.

You're retarded for even mentioning that fact. If you were running those servers on a comcast connection from your house, you'd be even more of an idiot.

Try getting perspective. This is residential service, not a fucking datacenter.

$150 a month isn't so bad, really (4, Informative)

slaker (53818) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787673)

Much as I hate it, I'd rather spend the money on a Comcast Business connection than worry about whether or not I'm getting close to some artificial cap.

I FTP things in and out of my apartment all the damned time, including backup image files and the like, let alone dealing with torrents or streaming video. I'm sure I transfer more than 10GB a day.

Disgusting as it is, I don't have any other high speed alternative.

Re:$150 a month isn't so bad, really (2, Funny)

WDot (1286728) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788135)

Much as I hate it, I'd rather spend the money on a Comcast Business connection than worry about whether or not I'm getting close to some artificial cap.

Apparently Comcast made quite the shrewd business move just now.

So that's what? (0)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787679)

5 Blu-Ray quality movies?
Is 250Gb at 10 Mb tak 416 hour? did I do that math right?
416.17 days non stop downloading at peak?

Re:So that's what? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787693)

Crap! That should be:
"17 days non stop downloading at peak?"

Re:So that's what? (0)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787765)

Nope, the cap is 250GB, so 3,333 hours before overhead. Also, a day is 24 hours around here, so it'd be 139 days.

Boiling a Lobster (5, Insightful)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787683)

I believe the plan is, this is fine now so nobody gripes. Same as it ever was, I don't notice the cap so there's effectively no cap, right?

In 5 years, 250GB will be used up in a week. Now they're saving money, and charging you if you want any more. The thing is, that 250GB cap has been there forever. Same as it ever was, right?

Re:Boiling a Lobster (3, Informative)

shadow349 (1034412) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787997)

I think you mean "Boiling a Frog [wikipedia.org] ".

Re:Boiling a Lobster (1)

MRAB54 (1109973) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788059)

In 5 years, 250GB will be used up in a week.

Wrong, in 5 years we will likely be downloading at nearly same speeds. It hasn't changed much since 5 years ago, what makes you think it will 5 years from now? We will still pay them their money and they will give us whatever speeds they want to give us.

Time to bring out a meme quote (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787697)

"640K should be enough for anybody"

about time (-1, Troll)

ScubaS (600042) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787705)

I'm not too surprised, because there are always those few individuals who abuse the internet with their piracy. it ruins it for those people who make use of their bandwidth for legitimate purposes. the problem is actually more wide spread than I initially thought.

Re:about time (5, Insightful)

AceofSpades19 (1107875) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787845)

It wouldn't ruin other peoples bandwith if they actually upgraded their infrastructure which they were given money for. If you don't have enough room for unlimited, don't sell unlimited

About Time (5, Insightful)

Orphaze (243436) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787709)

I'm actually oddly happy about this. I was contacted in the past about going over the mysterious limit (I did about 400GB that month,) and since then I've been living in fear that I may go too high again and get my service cut for a year. Now that an actual known limit exists, I can easily monitor my usage accordingly via my WRT54GL flashed with Tomato.

A 250GB limit is more than fair, and as long as it is fully disclosed in advanced, I have no problem with it. Having secret, constantly changing limits with undefined penalties for violations is not acceptable for any contractually agreed upon service.

Re:About Time (1, Insightful)

Danathar (267989) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787851)

Now all they have to do is not ADVERTISE it as "unlimited"

Re:About Time (4, Funny)

Smoke2Joints (915787) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787853)

400gb? What are you downloading, the entire bible word by word in 1280x1024 bmp format?

Re:About Time (2, Informative)

Z-Knight (862716) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788021)

Are you referring to the Old Testament or the New Testament? Or both? In the Old Testament there are 593493 words so that equates to about 724 GB, and for the New Testament there are 181253 for about 221 GB so that equals about 945 GB so if he tried downloading the bible it would take him over two months. You may want to do some research. ;)

Re:About Time (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787857)

problem is this is only the start; Next thing you know its down to 20GB monthly with an option to raise to 100 for the slight fee of $50. Now your monthly Internet access bill is $100.00. Screw these guys ...

Goodbye Comcast, Hello FIOS (1)

ilovesymbian (1341639) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787719)

Finally, Comcast has done it "officially"...

Goodbye Comcast, here I come, FIOS.

Reasonable. Now, a request... measurement. (4, Insightful)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787721)

This is perfectly reasonable if they're up front about it. I have a request... I would like a method to see what my consumption so far is so I can plan appropriately.

Re:Reasonable. Now, a request... measurement. (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787977)

This is perfectly reasonable if they're up front about it. I have a request... I would like a method to see what my consumption so far is so I can plan appropriately.

I have another request: Existing customers should not be forced over to this new policy until they either cancel or move. At least show the customers they pulled in via their advertising a little mercy.

Re:Reasonable. Now, a request... measurement. (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788075)

I have another request: Existing customers should not be forced over to this new policy until they either cancel or move. At least show the customers they pulled in via their advertising a little mercy.

Tough call ... imaginary floating bandwidth cap, that might or might not be over 250 Gb/month at any given time, or a known quantity.

Comcast sucks, no doubt about it.

Re:Reasonable. Now, a request... measurement. (1)

Beezlebub33 (1220368) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788033)

Absolutely. And I want to know where it's being measured from, and I want to be able to block incoming requests.

Read earlier in the thread about issues with unrequested incoming packets. If you get pounded at your IP address, does it get counted against you?

Re:Reasonable. Now, a request... measurement. (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788055)

Get a compatible router and flash it with Tomato firmware. I doubt that Comcast will account for bandwidth use the same way that Tomato does, but at least it will give you a good idea when you're getting close.

Only 250G? You poor oppressed dears (0, Flamebait)

lennier (44736) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787725)

Here in the Antipodes we pay $80/month for 20G.

Uphill. Both ways. In the snow. And we like it.

http://www.telstraclear.co.nz/residential/inhome/internet/cable-broadband/plans.cfm [telstraclear.co.nz]

You can't download terabytes of pirated movies every day for free over someone else's lines? Oppression, I tell you. Oppression.

Re:Only 250G? You poor oppressed dears (1)

zonky (1153039) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787855)

Slingshot is unlimited between 1am-7am. I am moving around 130Gb-150gb for around $130, including phone. You get i think 15gig for 'peak' use, and can buy more at $1 a gig (if you buy 50gigs). Unused data is 'banked' not lost.

Re:Only 250G? You poor oppressed dears (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787981)

Wow, great plans.

I've often thought about moving to New Zealand. Do you literally mean Antipodes Islands or is Antipodes slang for New Zealand?

Do you know if there's much/any work in embedded real-time software development there?

Cheers, mate.

(Is that phrase used there, too, or only in Oz?)

Re:Only 250G? You poor oppressed dears (2, Funny)

Free the Cowards (1280296) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788063)

Australians and New Zealanders seem to be the only people on the planet who think that the entire world's internet connections should be as bad as theirs. Why is that?

250GB/month (0, Troll)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787733)

2 dvd's every single day.

2 distros...2 movies...every day.

Truthfully...how many of you actually suck down 250GB per month?
If you watch all your 'tv' streaming or torrent, then maybe/almost/no way. But 250GB/month is actually quite a lot.

/and finally, someone is actually putting a number on 'unlimited'

Re:250GB/month (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787773)

Isn't Blu-Ray 50Gb?

Getting a blow job from somebody doesn't make you their boy friend.

Re:250GB/month (2, Insightful)

blanks (108019) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787907)

I share a house with 9 people and have comcast internet. Everyone in the house is on at least some bit each day with nearly everyone knowing how to stream video/music online as well as games and such.

250g might be good enough for a person, but it sure isn't good enough for a house/apartment with more then 1 or 2 people living in it.

Re:250GB/month (1)

Free the Cowards (1280296) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788085)

Have you actually measured your usage? I'd be pretty surprised if it really was over 250GB. If you have a 4Mbit connection then you'd have to be at 25% utilization for the entire month to hit it. If you're all torrenting stuff constantly then I could see it, but there's no way you're going to hit it with just streaming video, music, and games.

Data limit? (4, Interesting)

Renraku (518261) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787739)

Notice that it doesn't say anything about if the 'data limit' is uploaded data or downloaded. My guess is they'll make it combined.

Also, since there IS now a limit that can be tied with the monthly price, can we sue spammers/advertisers/etc for $.0000002 per kilobyte? I think its a very generous rate to give them, since cell phone companies like to charge $.10 per kilobyte.

Re:Data limit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788065)

Notice that it doesn't say anything about if the 'data limit' is uploaded data or downloaded.

Uh... sure it does:

To run afoul of these limits, Comcast said, customers would have to do one of the following: send 50 million e-mails; download 62,500 songs; download 125 standard-definition movies; or upload 25,000 high-resolution digital photos.

Re:Data limit? (1)

magus_melchior (262681) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788137)

Knowing their penchant for deceit, they'll include all the header data and protocol paddings in their calculations.

In kbps... (2, Informative)

Nathanbp (599369) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787743)

Well, 250 GB per month averages to 771.6 kbps [google.com] (Calculated as 250 billion bytes * 8 bits/byte / 30 days). Quite a bit less than the speeds they advertise.

On the other hand, a limit laid out in is much better than one you don't know about.
On the gripping hand, I guess Comcast just doesn't want your business if you use more than 250 GB per month?

Re:In kbps... (1)

Fred Smythe (731961) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787891)

Actually, that's very likely exactly the case. Comcast would LOVE it if everyone who was burning 250GB a month on their cheapest data plan would take their business elsewhere.

Re:In kbps... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788117)

have you ever downloaded something at 771.6 kbps? Doesn't happen! The maximum speed you can get is like around 400 kbps, so why in hell people are complaining about a 250gb limit? Even if stay online 24 hours a day downloading things you won't be able to burn this limit within a month...

At least one good thing comes out of this... (2, Informative)

tuaris (955470) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787755)

If any good comes out of this, it is the fact that software as a service is no longer an effective option. It's too bad for online movie rentals though, that was actually a very good idea (except for the DRM part of it.)

Re:At least one good thing comes out of this... (1)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787941)

If any good comes out of this, it is the fact that software as a service is no longer an effective option.

Are you kidding? 250G is a huge amount of data. And what's wrong with SAAS anyway?

It's too bad for online movie rentals though, that was actually a very good idea (except for the DRM part of it.)

Oh, please, 250G adds up to more than 100 movies per month. Do you have that kind of time? I don't.

The one thing that this puts a dent in is commercial peer-to-peer redistribution business models, but those business models were flawed to begin with.

Why did I read that as... (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787761)

Netcraft has confirmed that...

I guess that my cue to go home for the day.

Ignorant title (2, Insightful)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787767)

There's a big difference between 250GB and 250GB/month.

Fine! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787783)

Now i'll have to spoof my neighbors Mac Address to DL my massive loads of porn!

"Unlimited" Internet (4, Insightful)

Kneo24 (688412) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787793)

And I'm sure Comcast will make an effort to hide that little bit of information in the fine print so you don't notice it.

Honestly, they can't call it unlimited anymore. Unlimited has a set definition. It's not open to interpretation. If you introduce caps, or limits, well, you're giving a different service.

It would be nice if Comcast actually did something surprising... like, you know, give a good service? That would be tits.

Re:"Unlimited" Internet (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788097)

Honestly, they can't call it unlimited anymore. Unlimited has a set definition.

Sure they can! It just means that you can be connected to the Internet for an unlimited period of time. They'll just claim that the term "Unlimited" never had anything to do with actual data transfer.

I predict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787809)

The beginning of the end for Comcast.

Sure 250GB is fine for people who surf the net and get email, but I have a question for you...

Why the @#$#@ do you spend $40-50 just to do minimal use? You could cover that with DSL for 1/2 the price.

FIOS.... 15Mb/15Mb no limits. About $60.

Those of you saying "not too bad" are ignoring the biggest trends on the internet are downloading video, both streaming and in bulk *from legitimate sources*. Honestly if you think that $40/month for light usage are just suckers. They're giving you basically very little for a lot of money. You probably think paying $100 for mobile phone service is "fair" too. You're a corporate dream.

Re:I predict (1)

mikael (484) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788031)

Maybe people don't like the attitude of the telephone company. Particularly those telephone companies that ask people whether they intend making international calls and requiring a deposit if the customer says yes, but require no deposit if the customer says no (Bell Canada), or requires three items of identification such as a passport, electricity bill, and rental agreement before they will connect a telephone line (British Telecom). Cable TV company at the time (Telewest) just required a valid credit card number.

What about ads? How about SPAM?? (2, Interesting)

tuaris (955470) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787829)

Ads should not count towards the cap. That would be very very unfair. Caps are a bad idea, because 90% of the stuff we get is stuff we don't want.

Re:What about ads? How about SPAM?? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787895)

One more reason to install AdBlock+

Re:What about ads? How about SPAM?? (1)

Beezlebub33 (1220368) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788105)

Stupid question: Does AdBlock (which I have and seems to have block 1 of 45 items on this page) stop the display or the download?

Re:What about ads? How about SPAM?? (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788127)

That, actually, is a good point. I think we may see a lot of people becoming less tolerant of the crap that Web sites throw at them.

Personally, I use AdBlock and Privoxy. Between the two I don't have much of a problem with ads, and I don't see Flash unless I want it.

ARP traffic should not count (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787989)

ARP traffic should not count

Re:What about ads? How about SPAM?? (3, Funny)

BradleyUffner (103496) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788067)

everytime you connect comcast will automatically send you a 13gb highdef movie explaining the bandwidth cap.

Comcast Bandwidth Cap Hits October 1? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24787831)

Well, looks like all my porn for the next 6 months is getting downloaded in September.

Confucius say (1, Funny)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787861)

Confucius say "Cable companies always follow their essential nature. Man who pay for cable internet cannot complain when cable shoved up his ass. "

Perspective (2, Interesting)

TopSpin (753) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787881)

250GB/month =

0.77Mb/s (megabits) * 24/7
(a bit less than half a T1 running an full capacity)

3.31 days At 7.0Mb/s and you're out.

Not bad for cheap McInternet service, I guess...

seems good to me (3, Interesting)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787899)

The should have done this long ago, put it in the contract, and saved themselves a lot of bad press.

Residentially Only? (1)

justin_ramos (1335257) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787933)

Anyone know if this applies to Comcast Business customers, as well?

Not only do they have caps they also have FAP of (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787961)

Not only do they have caps they also have FAP on top of that with there poor HD TV service.

You are better off with DSL and direct tv and no comcast VOD does not count as having 500 channels and direct tv VOD in that count as well.

It may seem fine now, (1)

tchiseen (1315299) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787985)

You may seem happy with it now, but when the 250GB goes down to 150gb, then 100, then 50, then 25, you won't be so happy. This is obviously just a step in that direction for Comcast. In Australia, you pay more for more download quota. I can only download 25GB a month, and I pay $60 for that. 250GB plans don't exist here.

Usenet (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 6 years ago | (#24787991)

Are we still going to be limited to 1 gig per month from usenet?

And what of VOIP? (4, Insightful)

E-Lad (1262) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788019)

So say you have Comcast's triple-play or some VOIP service that rides out of your house on your Comcast connection. You get cut off for one reason or another, such as exceeding this cap. Is your phone service dead, too? Better have a mobile phone if 911 needs to be called?

Tissue anyone? (2, Informative)

Slackus (598508) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788051)

I cant believe there are some complaining about this. In South Africa we have a 3GB cap! You can purchase additional 1GB topups for around $10.

Better than Videotron (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24788095)

I'm on Videotron in Canada, who's highest available cap for residential service is a combined upload/download of 100 GB/month. 10 Mbps connection for $64.90/month. They transitioned from true unlimited to 100 GB last year. So take your 250 GB and enjoy it, already!

Seriously though, you honestly can't expect more than 250 GB per month for residential service. Those of you arguing about Blu-ray transfers and GB of backup data, shut up. Get a goddamn commercial line if you're not an average consumer.

Complaining over a 250 GB cap is like complaining that you can't run a 20,000 machine data centre at home off the city's public electricity grid.

More info (4, Informative)

bconway (63464) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788111)

On the Comcast Network Management page [comcast.net] , they note that:

Currently, the median monthly data usage by our residential customers is approximately 2 - 3 GB.

That puts the cap in a little more perspective, not that the 2+ TB/mo users will think it's reasonable.

After 8 years of the Bush Junta... (0, Flamebait)

vistahator (1330955) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788119)

There's no more need to pretend to care, the fascist state rules us!

Usage report (1)

jroysdon (201893) | more than 6 years ago | (#24788125)

While I can monitor my own firewall using MRTG or other utilities, I'd like to see what Comcast says my usage is. Any idea if they're going to provide this, or just "warn" you when you get to 249.99999gb?

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