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SPORE Released 5 Days Early In Australia

timothy posted more than 6 years ago | from the time-to-propagate dept.

PC Games (Games) 179

knypha writes "Several sites are reporting that the much anticipated SPORE has been released 5 days ahead of the scheduled release date in Australia. I can confirm that SPORE is sitting on shelves in retailers and for the tidy sum of A$95.95 it can be yours. Why the early release exactly seems to be a matter of contention. No news if the game can actually be played yet or if the lucky early punters will still have to wait till the official release when EA allows for any validation process to occur. I guess EA could possibly be using the relatively small population to test the servers...or someone somewhere stuffed up!"

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Good luck to australian gamers (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24841681)

Paying A$95.95 for the privilege of hosing your system down with SecuROM. I can't say I envy you.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (5, Insightful)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842087)

If it uses SecuROM I'm just going to torrent it.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1, Insightful)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843511)

Modded troll? I didn't think there'd be anyone on Slashdot (or anywhere else) who actually likes SecuROM.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Informative)

tuffy (10202) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843621)

Just because no one likes SecuROM doesn't mean one is entitled to download the game for free.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (3, Insightful)

SoCalChris (573049) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845773)

What about buying the game, then installing a downloaded version to keep their crap off of your system? I've done that before, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (0)

Kagura (843695) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843663)

You want Spore for free, regardless of the time and money it took to produce it, simply because it uses a security program that has gotten negative press lately?

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

dintech (998802) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844451)

He should buy it if he wants to play it. But following that he could install it in a sandbox (maybe sandboxie or something?), copy out the files and then NOCD patch it. A bit of a hassle but zero guilt.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Interesting)

Mascot (120795) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845411)

He should buy it if he wants to play it

Unfortunately, he has to pirate it to ensure he can play it.

I just hope Fallout 3 won't follow this sad trend. If all games start going the "online activation, max 3 installs" route, I might have to find a new hobby. I sure as hell won't buy games in this state.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Interesting)

Bloodrage (157297) | more than 6 years ago | (#24848433)

Circumventing security features is only a crime in the Land of the Free...

I will buy and modify the product as I see fit.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

alvinrod (889928) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844799)

I don't know if his statement necessarily means that he won't buy a copy. It could mean that he'll buy a copy of the game and if it uses some shitty DRM that really should be drug out behind the barn and murdered with an axe he'll get a cracked version and not have to worry about it getting in his way. I circumvent DRM all the time by storing my ripping my DVDs and backing them up on a hard drive. Then I can watch them on my modded Xbox without having to switch discs around or worry about the disc being damaged. Some people download a movie because the disc was damaged and they don't want to pay $20 for the movie again.

There are plenty of good reasons to circumvent DRM or make a digital copy of something that clearly fall under fair use. Not everyone who's doing these things is doing so to 'pirate' software or movies. Not everyone who owns a gun is going to commit murder with it either. Not everyone woman is a prostitute just because she's equip for it. I understand where you're coming from, but don't be so quick to judge.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24845205)

You want Spore for free ... simply because it uses a security program that has gotten negative press lately?

Um, that security program has always had bad press, not just lately!

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845681)

Yes. If at all possible, I'd like to write a check to Will Wright saying "Thanks for Spore, but don't ever put that kind of DRM on your games again." . I will not support the use of something that essentially hijacks my machine. In case I do torrent it, I'd like to be able to send Will Wright a check, but that's unlikely to be possible. Either which way, EA won't get my money for the PC version.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Jack9 (11421) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846127)

You want Spore for free, regardless of the time and money it took to produce it, simply because it uses a security program that has gotten negative press lately?

I don't want Spore for free, but I do want Spore. I will forego paying for it (which is easier for me) in philosophical protest of a third party program that is harmful to my machine. I don't even let Steam (PunkBuster) run anymore because of its behavior after closing Steam. Anything that continues to run outside of its purpose is probably leaky, is practially the same as any other malware or worm, and is not going to be allowed on my machine.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (0, Flamebait)

anomnomnomymous (1321267) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845381)

So why not refrain from buying -AND- downloading, as to show your disgust over Securom?

Ohwait, you don't have any principles: You just want a free game.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846531)

Oh wait, you're full of shit. I pirate games very, very rarely, and in most cases they're old games.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24847269)

I only steal canned ham and evaporated milk from the grocery store, and in most cases they're past their Best By date.

Thieves suck.

--

Don't steal the dream - don't steal music.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24847507)

And I'm sure you have never broken a single law in your life. Never downloaded an MP3, for instance.

Give me a fucking break and crawl back under your rock.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24842307)

Too bad it works on 99% of home users without causing problems. SecuROM is just how you're justifying to yourself receiving the software they paid money to produce, without paying for it.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842591)

Just because someone mentions SecuROM doesn't mean he's going to pirate it.

I, for one, won't be buying it because of SecuROM and because EA are using Cider instead of making a real Mac port.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (4, Insightful)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843299)

Not buying it because of SecuROM is certainly justified, but not buying it because EA is using Cider rather than making a real Mac port is just silly. The only thing EA is going to actually understand from this is that they're not getting Mac sales and they wasted time and money getting this thing cross-platform on PC's.

Unless you *don't* want them making it on the Mac at all - or if it just plain doesn't work well under Cider - than don't let the fact it's not native stop you from getting it. While making games for the Mac is still so uncommon this kind of thing should be encouraged, not discouraged. Later when it's considered SOP to make games of the Mac you can go ahead and complain about such things.

Amen to that (2, Interesting)

patio11 (857072) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843751)

Amazing how folks on Slashdot think that the industry is totally deaf.

"I'm too much of a Mac snob to buy games that would even function on another system."
"I pay $15 a month for WoW because I have to but torrent everything else I can get my hands on, because I hate DRM."

Its almost like that sort of attitude among customers might, hmm, drive business decisions or something.

Re:Amen to that (4, Interesting)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844065)

I just view companies like EA as I do children, or maybe dogs. These ideas, justified or not, are too complicated for them.

Child does good you praise it, child does bad you put it in time out. Dog does good you give it a treat, dog does bad you stuff it's face in the mess it made and yell "bad dog." EA does over-all net good you buy their game, EA does bad you boycott it and maybe yell on their forums. Don't try to say "Making for mac is good but [details]." Details are confusing while they're still struggling with the whole Mac-good or Mac-bad thing. Again, like children or dogs it may take a good number of reward-punishment cycles before these ideas start sinking in and you can try to teach it something else. Don't be discouraged when yet another game is released with DRM or Cider.

Re:Amen to that (1)

discord5 (798235) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845957)

Child does good you praise it, child does bad you put it in time out.

The problem is that this child has over a million parents telling them they don't care, and little less than a hundred parents telling them it's bad. The over a million people are the ones that make the company money, the few hundreds are those that don't.

To each his own opinion and all that, and far be it from me to judge how you spend your money. In fact, I think that DRM is a good reason not to spend your money, but saying "bad dog" to EA with a few hundred people while they're making a small fortune (on what seems to be a good game for once, compared to the usual excretions that flow forth from that company), just seems rather futile.

As for me, I bought the game in the hope that it will make them come up with something original and entertaining every once in a while instead of aforementioned excrement they've blessed the world with. The fact that it's DRM'ed doesn't bother me more than the fact that if the amount of installations is exceeded I'll download the crack and get on with life.

Am I part of "the problem"? Maybe, probably, sure. Do I care enough? Well, you can answer that one yourself I guess.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a civilization to make consisting entirely out of obscene objects. brb

Re:Amen to that (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846257)

For the most part I agree. There are a cases where companies did remove or lessen DRM thanks to complaints and boycotts such as mine (See: Bioshock, Mass Effect), but they're few and far between. I'm hoping against the odds that more people will join in to make these few cases more common - I recognize that we're a long way off from revolutionizing the industry. I have no intention of demonizing people who don't care enough to do the same - the problem is caused by the companies, not their consumers. If it doesn't bother you, enjoy. It sure bothers me, though ):

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845513)

So, a company doing a half-assed job of "porting" a game to the Mac should make me want to buy it?

Cider is so demanding on the hardware that it can't even support the GMA950 GPU for the Mac. Strangely enough, all Mac minis have GMA950 and so do all the previous generations of Macbooks.

That's a bit of a brain-dead decision on EA's part to drop maybe a third of Mac users, given that we're supposed to be about 8% of gamers at most (if we believe the usual numbers).

The worst part is, GMA950 is enough if you run the Windows version. And on top of that there's SecuROM.

Windows games on Cider doesn't equal a Mac port, EA. Sorry but my money will go to Blizzard. They make real Mac versions of their games. Starcraft II isn't even finished and yet they are already assured of one sale on my part.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846011)

If there is some technical reason - if it doesn't work properly on your hardware - then, of course, you should not get it. My point was not to avoid it on principle. A functioning but lazy port to such a small market should still be encouraged.

Sorry but my money will go to Blizzard

What is this comment for? I love Blizzard and, to quote teh_pwnerer, "EA can suck my balls." I'd much prefer $random_person do business with companies like Blizzard rather than EA.

That's a bit of a brain-dead decision on EA's part to drop maybe a third of Mac users, given that we're supposed to be about 8% of gamers at most (if we believe the usual numbers).

From the comments I've seen here, it seems a bit of a brain-dead decision on EA's part to actually take the time and money to get a mac port at all.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Interesting)

Ralish (775196) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845897)

Not buying it because of SecuROM is certainly NOT justified, for many reasons.

Firstly, while I'm opposed to copy protection of this flavour in general, SecuROM is one of the tamer options out there. Yes, it causes problems for some users, but really, there's far worse out there. For instance, the horror that is StarForce. That's an example of a copy protection that crosses the line so blatantly, that it would be justified to all-out refuse to buy the game. SecuROM has if anything improved recently, notably, the v.7.x series can install and run in a non-administrator account, which has obvious security and stability benefits.

But more compelling than such technical arguments, is the ethical one from the developers point of view. Maxis is owned by EA (which is genuinely evil, or at least, has some pretty miserable standards), and I doubt the option of choosing whether to implement copy protection in the game is ultimately their choice. I'd imagine if a Maxis rep. went to EA and said "Spore is done, and by the way, we're releasing it free of any copy protection, except for a basic CD-Key check with server-side validation only in the case of multiplayer", they'd be laughed out of the office and/or fired. I don't believe it's fair or at all reasonable to let Maxis suffer because of the inclusion of SecuROM. They worked hard on this game, invested a lot of time to develop it; refusing to buy it purely because of copy protection is more a snub to them than it is to EA.

Should we protest against the inclusion of such copy protection mechanisms? Absolutely. But do so through means that don't whack the developers pocket except in extreme cases. Complain on the game forums, let both Maxis and EA know your opposition to the inclusion of SecuROM. If you are vocal enough, they may even remove the SecuROM checks from the binary. This has been done by developers numerous times in the past through future patches when faced with enough opposition.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846665)

Firstly, while I'm opposed to copy protection of this flavour in general, SecuROM is one of the tamer options out there. Yes, it causes problems for some users, but really, there's far worse out there.

Just because it's not as bad as others doesn't make it somehow acceptable. "Theft is okay, at least they didn't also rape and murder"

I don't believe it's fair or at all reasonable to let Maxis suffer because of the inclusion of SecuROM

So, what, EA is holding some innocent people hostage? We have to pay the bad people at EA so they don't make the poor developers who have to stick with them starve? The individuals can quit and join other companies or start up their own. I'm not going to demonize them for it (just the people who actually made the choice to put in the DRM) but I'm not going to fund them, either, if I know a substantial chunk of the money is going to people who are actively doing things that piss me off.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24842787)

wow. troll. really? it didnt seem like he was actually trying to troll. read his post again.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

NemosomeN (670035) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843535)

99% is terrible, not that you're not just pulling that number out of your ass. Sell 1,000,000 copies? 10,000 of them are defective and screw up consumers' computers. Good luck with that second million.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843759)

Too bad it works on 99% of home users without causing problems.

From what I've seen it does not work for 99% of home users without causing problems. It's just they don't realize it's causing problems or don't care when they can just phone up the techy kid across the street or when Geek Squad tells them they just need more RAM. Don't confuse a lack of understanding or care with a lack of problems.

SecuROM is just how you're justifying to yourself receiving the software they paid money to produce, without paying for it.

Perhaps that would be true if people who were boycotting this because of the DRM pirated DRM-free games like (non-GOTY edition) Oblivion, which was a highly successful game. In some cases that may have happened, but it's certainly not what happened across the board. I am not the only one who actually purchased Oblivion but won't get this because of the DRM.

Your argument reminds me of those who say that anyone who supports gay marriage must be themselves gay. It has the same level of even-though-you-make-perfect-sense-you're-still-the-bad-guy-here-for-no-good-reason.

Re:Good luck to australian gamers (2, Funny)

Starayo (989319) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844021)

Oh, crap, I forgot about bloody SecuROM. That's what I get for buying a game legally for once.

No issues yet, but now my PC feels tainted...

Oh... (3, Funny)

neokushan (932374) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841697)

Oh the PURE and UNADULTERATED HORROR of it all!

Re:Oh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24845613)

You obviously jest, but if this was intentional on EA's part (and not just some fuck-up from EA Australia) I'm very curious as to the reasoning behind it. Really, the only reason for copy protection schemes these days is to delay the game's piracy (to deter casual pirates), since avoiding it entirely is essentially impossible.

This early release in one continent effectively takes away 5 days' worth of that gain. For no obvious reason.

There's no way this was intentional, heads will probably roll.

It's clear why they are doing it (5, Funny)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841723)

They are trying to get a good Zero Punctuation review from Yahtzee.

Re:It's clear why they are doing it (4, Funny)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843429)

They are trying to get a good Zero Punctuation review from Yahtzee.

Nah, Bill Wright visits slashdot from time to time and he read many Australians whining about their lousy Internet conditions... so he thought he'd give them a 5-day head start.

It also gives us the rest of the world a chance to whine about our lousing gaming conditions.

Re:It's clear why they are doing it (1)

auld_wyrm (634053) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843737)

They are trying to get a good Zero Punctuation review from Yahtzee.

That was the first thing that crossed my mind. That and him cackling about finally getting it over on the rest of us bar-stards.

makes sense (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24841727)

Well, the seas around Australia have perfect conditions for the formation of early life...

Too expensive. (5, Interesting)

Mystery00 (1100379) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841743)

Like for most games, our stores once again double the price for no reason other than that they can. If I buy this at all it'll be an import from somewhere like play-asia.

It's Simple (5, Funny)

Bieeanda (961632) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841809)

Australia has more horrifying, poisonous creatures per square meter, than any other place on Earth. If anyone is going to understand Spore, it's them.

Re:It's Simple (1)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842127)

And they would happily swap cane toads with penis creatures.

Re:It's Simple (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843185)

Who wouldn't?!

Re:It's Simple (5, Funny)

ZeroFactorial (1025676) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842375)

Ah yes, the dreaded Australopeniscus.

What's so great about this game? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24841811)

Can someone clue me in on why this game is so anticipated and desired? I mean I have seen the demos and stuff but I just can't figure out what the point of it is.

I mean it has a Mail Order Monsters feel but with that modern coddling design that too many of today's games have (ie. they require no skill).

Re:What's so great about this game? (4, Funny)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842121)

I anticipate that Spore is going to get pretty boring pretty quickly. It doesn't look like it'll have much replay value.

Re:What's so great about this game? (3, Insightful)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842433)

I imagine someone saying something very similar right before the release of SimCity and TheSims. "It's just creating a city, how many times through do you really need to play it?"

Re:What's so great about this game? (3, Funny)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842901)

I guess I should have elaborated, because I wasn't making a joke. Spore just looks like it will quickly become very repetitive and dull.

Re:What's so great about this game? (3, Insightful)

Crookdotter (1297179) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843935)

I've never understood this attitude. Everything in the world is repetitive. Pick a game, ANY game. Football, darts, rugby, World Of Weirdos, Half Life, etc etc. They are ALL repetitive. That's what games are.
Spore might not be a good game, but being repetitive should never be seen as a negative. Games are repetitive, and repetitive != dull.

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

Captain Murdock (906610) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845507)

Agreed. Halo is basically the same thing every time, but some people will still play consistently for months at a time.

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846483)

Some games are more repetitive than others, and some types of repetition are not as good as others. Spore looks like it'll get boring very quickly.

Re:What's so great about this game? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24844029)

most games 'quickly become very repetitive and dull', hasn't stopped anyone yet.

the big games now are FPS, which are the most boring and repetitive games ever.

-- all preceding comments were opinions, not facts.

Re:What's so great about this game? (3, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844289)

I guess I should have elaborated, because I wasn't making a joke. Spore just looks like it will quickly become very repetitive and dull.

It's supposed to be a sandbox. Did you have a sandbox as a kid? I did. It was only as boring as the limits of your imagination.

Of course, if Spore turns out to be a crappy sandbox, then you can't really blame it for being boring. But Maxis has had a history of creating good sandboxes so I don't think I'll have to eat my words.

I just want Stephen Colbert to cover the game so we can see him do a Spore Report.

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

brkello (642429) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845437)

I think your definition and my definition of "elaborated" differs a great deal.

Re:What's so great about this game? (0)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846429)

Wow, ok. So now it's flamebaiting to state a negative opinion about a game? What will Slashdotters think of next?

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

Mr. DOS (1276020) | more than 6 years ago | (#24848181)

Welcome to /., etc. etc. (Boy does it feel weird to be saying that to someone with a lower UID than mine.) I think you probably ended up with that just because you didn't explain why you felt that way. So, what makes you think it's going to be dull?

Personally, I don't think it's going to be anything close to dull as a whole (although some parts may be). Repetitive at the beginning of a new game/planet/whatever they're calling it, maybe, but if it plays out properly, it shouldn't be the same twice (unless you're really trying for that).

      --- Mr. DOS

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

bothra (968330) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844093)

I anticipate that Spore is going to get pretty boring pretty quickly FOR ME. It doesn't look like it'll have much replay value FOR ME.

FTFY

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

Das Modell (969371) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846599)

Did I ever say that my post is to be taken as fact? Did I ever say that it isn't just my opinion?

Re:What's so great about this game? (1, Interesting)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842163)

Okay, so it's got elements of SimLife (which took a great amount of Skill) and it's got elements of SimCity (which took a deft amount of SittingAroundWaiting) and it's got elements of The Sims (which took, ok - you're right, no Skill at all, rather maybe Charisma) and then it's got elements of SimCity (not really).

But c'mon, it's made by the same guy who made those other titles (or at least signed off on them) Will Wright. Generally every game he says is good for RTM is a platinum deal. If he doesn't sign the X then you won't like it (maybe). WoW? Diablo? SC? Ah, who cares about those, this is SimXYZ... Oh? Civ? Yeah, that's Sid Meiers, best check down the hall on that one...

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

raynet (51803) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843509)

It also seems to have elements from a game I once played on Amiga. You started out as a bug and evolved to a human. Graphics were amazing wire vectors and all.

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843959)

i miss that game - but i am still not intrestedin spore

Re:What's so great about this game? (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846177)

But c'mon, it's made by the same guy who made those other titles (or at least signed off on them) Will Wright.

That, by itself, means nothing. SimLife I haven't heard of, so I can't really judge it. But although I love SimCity, I think The Sims is pure shit, and is the worst idea for a non-game I've ever seen (seriously... if I want to live real life, I'll do it, not play a game about it). Surely I can't be the only one for whom Will Wright's name carries very little weight, just because his stuff is so hit-and-miss as to whether it'll be great or terrible.

Yes, it is confirmed that you can play early (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24841819)

I do not have a slashdot account, so I doubt that I will be seen.

But the whole reason this story broke is do to this person here.

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=603042

The bastard is gloating in his 15 mins of Internet fame. :p

Re:Yes, it is confirmed that you can play early (1)

electricbern (1222632) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844373)

"I just got Spore but I should've got a working camera."

yay australia (1)

mike_sucks (55259) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841889)

Didn't we stuff this up once before? With the release of halo 3 or something similarly boring?

In Soviet Australia... oh. nevermind.

/Mike

Ambivalent (2, Funny)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 6 years ago | (#24841991)

I'm not sure if Aussies should be boosting that they get first crack at this game or shamed at revealing how much computer games cost down there...

Re:Ambivalent (2, Informative)

fostware (551290) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843283)

I'm not sure if Aussies should be boosting that they get first crack at this game or shamed at revealing how much computer games cost down there...

haha... "first crack"... Is that a challenge? lol

Seriously though, I'm getting angrier and angrier at how much games cost here. I almost never buy retail anymore, and no doubt the games companies will blame it on piracy.

Re:Ambivalent (2, Funny)

Starayo (989319) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844127)

It is incredibly cheaper to import games than it is to buy locally. My country is a little fucked up.

Importing (2, Interesting)

khing (936015) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842259)

It is extortionate prices like these that compels me to buy from overseas. I know I (and many others before me) have stated this before numerous times, but I will keep saying it (and encouraging friends to buy overseas) until game publishers take notice.

Re:Importing (3, Interesting)

CogDissident (951207) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842333)

Notably, the price is in Australian dollars. In American its 81.36$. Still a huge markup for apparently no reason.

Re:Importing (2, Insightful)

UberHoser (868520) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842675)

Holy crap on wheat toast ! $82 for a game ?????

pass.

Re:Importing (4, Informative)

Fweeky (41046) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842843)

Direct download from EA is £39.95, or £42.94 if you want to be able to redownload for 2 years instead of 6 months. 95.95 AUD is £45, so not that much of a markup.

Of course, if I buy a physical copy, I can get it for £28, or £30 if I want it (almost) guaranteed on release day, so you do have to wonder what EA are thinking with that download price..

Re:Importing (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843305)

Alternately, you could pirate it for free!

Oops, did I say that out loud?

Re:Importing (1)

Starayo (989319) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844365)

And unfortunately here in Australia there's so much more incentive to.

Demos are hardly ever a good representation of the final product, and with the filesize of most of them nowadays, they take an enormous chunk out of the average Australian download quota unless the ISP mirrors it quota-free. When a demo interests me it's usually just a sample of the best work in the entire game, much like a movie trailer.

Then there's the games I do buy. Generally they turn out to be a disappointment, and I'm left to contemplate the amount of entertainment I could have received by, say, watching 40-50 movies using my friend's employee discount, going out for a couple of drinks with mates, or anything else in comparison with the ridiculous price I've paid for a shiny, polished piece of crap.

One of the latest games I have felt comfortable paying so much for is the collector's edition of warhammer online at ~AUD$130 and that's mainly for the art book. I'll still be paying a monthly fee on top of that, but I get a great deal more fun out of playing an MMO with fun and interesting guildies than I do from throwing my money at the glut of horrifyingly bad games being released nowaday, so the cost doesn't seem so horrible to me. When I bought, say, Assassin's Creed for my PC, I definitely enjoyed it, but it was under no circumstances worth the price I paid.

DRM on my machine aside, I am enjoying spore, and so is my younger sister, and that is good enough for me.

Re:Importing (2, Interesting)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843503)

Of course, if I buy a physical copy, I can get it for £28, or £30 if I want it (almost) guaranteed on release day, so you do have to wonder what EA are thinking with that download price..

That's easy: "Let's make an extra profit from the people who can't wait an extra day, and make sure we don't piss off retailers by setting a price that could actually be seen as competition."

Re:Importing (2, Informative)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844627)

So what after 6 months you can't download the game you bought anymore? What a piece a shit! I can't believe there is a digital download service that's worse than the IGN one!(Direct2Drive)

Re:Importing (1)

Spatial (1235392) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845345)

I wonder if you can just torrent it and use your legitimate CD-key again. That seems like the more sensible option, assuming it actually has a key.

Re:Importing (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 6 years ago | (#24847991)

Direct download is also US$49.95 for a huge markup for both of you...

What EA is thinking on the download price is not adjusting it for exchange rate movements since they announced the game (which was, what 3 years ago...)

Re:Importing (1)

raijinsetsu (1148625) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842885)

Ooooh... It must have a Gold-leaf manual, created by our very own Martha S. (she loves the gold-leaf). And, a limited edition soundtrack and collectible modal, right? OR! The game material is printed on indestructible holographic media, right? Good for thousands of years, even if the game isn't.

Re:Importing (1)

ranulf (182665) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843409)

That's considered normal for games in most PAL territories...

"Huge markup for apparently no reason" = ask gov't (1)

patio11 (857072) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843661)

I often wonder at how people in countries with a VAT (and, relatedly, Americans living in localities with high sales taxes) are shocked, shocked that when they compare notes with friends abroad prices are lower.

Australia has a Goods & Services tax. 10% on the top. Considering I paid US$60 for my copy with no sales taxes, I'm guessing about a third of your "no reasons" are in Melbourne by now.

(You know you guys used to have a 35% duty on packaged software? Fun times. Thankfully that got removed in '84.)

Re:Importing (1)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844309)

The huge markup is because they have to pay crazy tariffs and transport costs to get all those bits over the border. It's cheaper now that they're using a series of tubes instead of a bunch of trucks, but it still costs a lot.

Re:Importing (1)

krakelohm (830589) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844535)

Bunch of trucks eh...

Re:Importing (1)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845435)

Notably, the price is in Australian dollars. In American its 81.36$. Still a huge markup for apparently no reason.

Er... to confirm the game prices... $49.99 and $79.99 [gamestop.com] for the regular or "collectors" edition, respectively.

It would be helpful to identify which version people are talking about. Because that $81.36 would be on par with the "collectors" edition version.

Re:Importing (1)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845517)

Well, I guess I should follow up to myself. The Games Wherehouse Australia is listing it as $89.99 and $139.99 [gameswarehouse.com.au] . Which is, indeed, a lot more at an American $ exchange rate being ~$76.36 and $118.80

I'm going to have to speculate and ask, does Australia have a VAT tax? Are they adding on some 50% "games tax" or something but since it's VAT the consumers don't actually see this tax?

convict past (-1, Troll)

geekstarr (1112945) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842341)

so we start off as a colony of crims now we get the world's criminally bad games? isn't this just history repeating?!?

"no news if it is playable" (1)

nremorse (916529) | more than 6 years ago | (#24842545)

Some kid was streaming the game on ustream.tv the other day. The recorded videos should still be up. I think he played through the game up to the space part of the game. Edit: Looks like he is still streaming. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/*live*-spore [ustream.tv]

let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24842721)

Yeah, you know it's great and all that we Aussies are getting it early. Too bad we have to take out a mortgage just to pay for the bloody thing.

The gouging the video game industry does against Australians is absolutely deplorable. The local EB games is still trying to flog off the Warcraft 3 Battlechest - part of which is almost 8 years old - for $110!! At current exchange rates that's about $95 US.

I order my games from the UK and even with shipping it's practically half price. The best part is you get around the stupid censorship imposed by Senator Atkinson.

With all of the BS we're forced to tolerate, plus the whole descendants from convicts thing, it shouldn't be too surprising that many Australians turn to "alternate channels" of distribution for their video gaming needs.

Re:let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843547)

doh. its around $14 even in turkey. w3 bchest i mean.

Re:let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (1)

ramirez (51663) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844735)

It's too bad there is no mechanism by which you could purchase these computer games from other countries. It would be great if someone were to build a "network" or something whereby you could communicate your desire to purchase a product to someone else in another country. Maybe, once this advanced technology is further developed there might be a way of paying for such goods over this same "network".

Re:let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24845927)

It's too bad there is no mechanism by which you could purchase these computer games from other countries.

Christ, I know we don't RTFA on /., and some of us don't even read the summary. But could you read the bloody post to which you're ostensibly replying?

I order my games from the UK and even with shipping it's practically half price.

Re:let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (1)

ramirez (51663) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846565)

Heh, yeah I missed that paragraph :-)

I blame lack of sleep.

Anywho, this should hopefully get better with things like steam. Being able to download games should help equalize the price for you down the road.

convicts = underclass (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 6 years ago | (#24845887)

The convicts thing is because they criminalised being a member of the urban poor.
In my city, Nottingham, if you stole over the price of a loaf of bread you went to the gallows. Transportation was often for anti-social behaviour such as gossiping (I wish I was joking).
There's a list of 10,000 names in The Galleries of Justice [gallerieso...ice.org.uk] . The role call of the underclass. The footings for the gallows are still in the street outside.

Re:convicts = underclass (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24848607)

... In my city, Nottingham, if you stole over the price of a loaf of bread you went to the gallows. Transportation was often for anti-social behaviour such as gossiping (I wish I was joking). ... The footings for the gallows are still in the street outside.

So those transported to Australia were the pettiest of petty thieves and wag-tongues? Seems some of them of them have gotten a little better at thieving given the Spore prices mentioned above.

Now about the footings for the gallows... I reckon if you were to build a new gallows and stretch a few necks when Hanging Day rolled around you might manage to dissuade some of your youths from getting all stabby.

Re:let us rejoice, for we are young and poor... (1)

j_edge (20712) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846467)

And at the current rate of exchange $95US is what, 5 Euros?

If it uses ShittyRom, im going to buy it, crack it (1)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843519)

retaining the control of my computer is far more important than any shitty control schemes any game employs, even if i respect the title or developer.

Kids have been rubbing it in.... (1)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 6 years ago | (#24843975)

On a gaming community forum, some kid posted this days ago and said "HA HA"... (on Facepunch, http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=603042 [facepunchstudios.com] ). He also posted in game screenshots...

I, for one, can't wait for SPORE! :D

Re:Kids have been rubbing it in.... (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846753)

I see someone demanded the ultimate proof: "Make a penis vehicle. "

5 Days Early? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#24844283)

Duh, it's because of time zones. When it's Thursday here in the states, it's like February in Australia.

Australia isn't alone (1)

Masterwinks (1205100) | more than 6 years ago | (#24844453)

Apparently Spore is also released in other places too. People in Europe are also enjoying the game as we speak.

This was also the case with other games (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 6 years ago | (#24846791)

I recall Civilization 4 expansion being released early in Australia by a good week. I was very pissed about that cause I preordered it. Then when it was finally my turn I went to pick it up, and some GameStop Douche sold it to another person...
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