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Ghostbusters Is First Film Released On USB Key

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the free-gozer dept.

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arcticstoat writes "Are you the USB keymaster? You could be soon if you pick up PNY's new 2GB USB flashdrive, which comes pre-loaded with Ghostbusters. A spokesperson for PNY explained that it comes with a form of DRM that prevents you from copying the movie. 'They have DRM protection,' explained the spokesperson, 'so customers can download the movie onto their laptop or PC if they wish, but they have to have the USB drive plugged in to watch the movie, as the DRM is locked in the USB drive.' The music industry has been playing around with USB flash drives for a few years now, but it hasn't been a massive success yet; will USB movies fare any better?"

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448 comments

terrible idea (4, Insightful)

hellfish006 (1000936) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862001)

no that is a terrible idea, the last thing I want is a ton of USB drives laying around while I try to find any form of media.

Re:terrible idea (5, Insightful)

v1 (525388) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862055)

and let me guess, requires windows visa with the latest service pack (DRM++)

Re:terrible idea (5, Informative)

tom17 (659054) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862147)

Well apparently it works on Linux as well (As long as it has the right KERNAL)

From Argos.co.uk.

2GB storage.
Plug and play.
Compatible with Windows ME, 2008, XP, Mac OS, 8.6 and Higher, Linux, Kernal 2.4X and any operating system with a USB port.
Compatible with USB 1.1 and 2.0.
Size (H)2 (W)6.3 (D) 0.8cm.
Black USB pendrive.
Full length movie and link to argos website included.
Full installation guide included.

Although I guess that is wrong for the DRM stuff.

Tom...

Re:terrible idea (5, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862411)

That can be easily fixed.

Get a 4 gig usb key instead, a DVD of ghostbusters and a copy of handbrake. (you will want to rip with settings that give you about 3.2gig because the film was created on very low grade film it cant be compressed hard without artifacts.)

rip the dvd to a OPEN unencumbered codec. place on USB key.

Voila. same thing in BETTER quality without the DRM and is compatible with most computers.

hey hollywood, until you offer me something that is NOT DRM encumbered I aint' buyin' it! I'll violate your copyright instead...

Re:terrible idea (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862647)

Heh, I'd like to see how "protected" anything that works on OS 8.6 (1999) is

Re:terrible idea (3, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862057)

Would you rather use an optical drive's power-sucking moving parts, especially while using a laptop? Sometimes we don't have der internets to get us movies on a whim.

Re:terrible idea (5, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862193)

I would rather use the device and medium of my choosing without dongles.

Re:terrible idea (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862293)

What would you do if your girlfriend came up to you with that preference?

Re:terrible idea (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862355)

What would you do if your girlfriend came up to you with that preference?

Ask to watch.

Re:terrible idea (2, Insightful)

exley (221867) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862205)

Sounds just as easy if not easier than dealing with an optical disc in some kind of a case. Easier to store, easier to carry. Doesn't help if you prefer something that's just a file stored on your hard drive, but it does have portability going for it.

Re:terrible idea (1)

hurfy (735314) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862607)

Is there even a media drawer or something to organize and store USB drives in? Do i just toss all my movies into a drawer in a random pile? Is it labeled? It does not appear to be labeled with movie. Would label be readable if stacked nicely in a storage cabinet which may or maynot exist? Doubtful unless stored sideways...taking up a much room as a DVD.

or

Some years from now it takes 2 hours to dig thru a stack of USB keys to find the right one.

A cheap gimmick at the moment that is quite expensive. no thanks

countdown (4, Insightful)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862007)

Waiting to hear news that the movie's been unlocked in 3... 2... 1...

Re:countdown (5, Funny)

scourfish (573542) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862043)

You're late to the scene, they had it cracked at 4

Re:countdown (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862467)

Please ignore. This is a test.

Would you rather use an optical drive's power-sucking moving parts, especially while using a laptop? Sometimes we don't have der internets to get us

Re:countdown (2, Interesting)

johndmartiniii (1213700) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862069)

I wonder if you took an image of the USB key and mounted the image as a filesystem. Maybe that might work.

Or... oh wait, Ghostbusters?

Re:countdown (4, Interesting)

WK2 (1072560) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862081)

Agreed. There is no chance this DRM will work. My question is what are they afraid of? Ghostbusters has been on the pirate bay since at least 2005. I'm sure it was on Limewire and Kazaa before that. If they are testing to see if this DRM will work, they already know the answer. It works OK for the non-technical folk, and has no chance in hell for the people who would actually want to buy a movie on USB stick (if it didn't have DRM, at least). This just seems like one of the most useless ideas Hollywood has had.

Re:countdown (5, Funny)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862233)

This just seems like one of the most useless ideas Hollywood has had.

Hollywood made "Battlefield: Earth." This isn't even in the top ten, sorry buddy.

Re:countdown (4, Interesting)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862275)

They're more interested in proving the principle of the thing than protecting this particular film. If it gets ripped, Hollywood isn't going to be as upset as they would be if, say, Quantum of Solace were ripped. If it doesn't get ripped, well, distributing Return of the Revenge of Batman in 2012 on a 32Gb SD card isn't going to seem so crazy.

The idea of tying digital copies to a particular storage device isn't new, and several parties have been trying to persuade Hollywood that this idea works for a while. HD DVD supported something called CPRM, where each writable disk could have embedded upon it, in an unwritable part of the disk, a key that copies could be tied to. The idea was that you'd (or a kiosk would) be able to download and burn to a disk an official, authorized, copy of a movie, that would be just as uncopyable as a regular AACS-controlled disk. This was an extension of attempts by the DVD Forum to make CPRM work with regular DVDs for some years, which looks set to be a part of the next revision of the DVD standard. You can imagine how attractive this is to studios who do not want to put hundreds of thousands of copies of low-interest content in stores around the world.

Likewise, the "SD" in "SD card" is about a similar system, and initially that was the major difference between SD cards and MMC cards, though the two standards have grown apart since in other ways.

Whether this is good or bad depends on your point of view to a certain extent, but what is clear is that Hollywood isn't planning on abandoning DRM any time soon. As a result, they're not going to adopt any form of writable media to store digital copies unless it has some kind of DRM system built-in. This is a step towards that goal.

Re:countdown (1)

WK2 (1072560) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862393)

They're more interested in proving the principle of the thing than protecting this particular film. If it gets ripped, Hollywood isn't going to be as upset as they would be if, say, Quantum of Solace were ripped.

Yes, I mentioned that as a possibility above, but I also said that Hollywood already knows the answer.

If it doesn't get ripped...

And that isn't the answer.

Re:countdown (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862663)

OK, so NO ONE crack it or rip it until it becomes standard.
Shhh, keep this on the down low.

Re:countdown (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862509)

Heck, my parents had a VHS copy of the movie back in like 1990!

Re:countdown (1)

Scarletdown (886459) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862569)

Heck, my parents had a VHS copy of the movie back in like 1990!

Bah. That's nothing, youngster. We had it on CED back in the 80s. And even now, I still have a commercial copy on Beta.

Re:countdown (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862641)

Having just come out of a meeting that was mostly dominated by the discussion of several outright ludicrous, impractical, and benefit-free ideas, I have a very vivid appreciation for just how good an obviously stupid idea can seem (to certain types of people).

Some people just can't think things through. They can't visualize realities of use. They can't form a mental picture from a verbal description. They can't get their heads around *anything* until you have it completed and show it to them.

And many such people manage to work themselves into decision-making positions (their incentive to do this is higher, I suppose, since they can't actually build anything themselves).

So, no, Hollywood will not learn. At least, not any time soon. They are going to have to pour a lot more money into DRM, and see it outright fail many, many more times, before they get the idea that it just won't work.

I unlocked the DRM!!! (5, Funny)

CaptainPatent (1087643) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862229)

Apparently if it asks you if you're a god, you say YES!

Re:I unlocked the DRM!!! (5, Funny)

nick.ian.k (987094) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862445)

Odd, I got mine Jeopardy-style: "During the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants, they chose this form for Gozer the Traveler."

Re:countdown (4, Funny)

Scarletdown (886459) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862435)

Waiting to hear news that the movie's been unlocked in 3... 2... 1...

Good news for you...

Used copy of Ghost Busters: $5 - $10 or so
2GB Flash Drive: $15 - $20
DVD Shrink to strip out everything but the movie, compress enough to fit in 2GB, and save as an ISO image: Free
VLC Media Player [videolan.org] to play said ISO on Linux, BSD, Solaris, OS-X, BeOS, Windows, QNX (WTF is this?), or Syllable (WTF is this one as well?): Free

Purchasing an overpriced, DRMed version of a movie (that will most likely be playable only on a Windows box) just because it's sold on a Flash Drive?: Pointless

Re:countdown (4, Informative)

DJ Jones (997846) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862529)

USB Dongles have been cracked for years. Once you crack the key (a 2 minute process), you can dump the data off it and then emulate the dongle at will. See for yourself [woodmann.com]

This hasn't stopped my company from using them for licensing... Despite me demonstrating this.

Re:countdown (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862621)

This is old technology. If I recall correctly, Avid Technology [avid.com] has been using it for years to prevent people from pirating their overpriced software.

P.S. Does anybody know where I can get a pirated copy of Avid? It's really cool!

No thanks, I like to own media and do what I want (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862031)

Can't rip it, can't archive it, can't move it to my HDD without the dongle. And if the flash drive gets damaged, who you gonna call?

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862053)

No to mention the wasted space on the device...

Wonder though.. could you use dd to make a disc image of the whole drive and then mount it as loop and have it work?

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862173)

Sounds like there is DRM embedded in the video stream, so there's no way to decode it unless you have the right codec, which will look for the USB key.

It also sounds like it'll be locked to Windows, since I doubt they put that much effort into making it for Linux as well... Or even OSX.

It's really sad, because it's not like that's a hard movie to get... DVD, Divx... Just about every format imaginable is available on the web for that one.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862495)

Wasted space? What about wasted money? £29.99 for a 2gig pendrive with a film or £4.50 for one without.

Buy the DVD and rip it and still save yourself over £20.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (5, Funny)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862079)

Can't rip it, can't archive it, can't move it to my HDD without the dongle. And if the flash drive gets damaged, who you gonna call?

The pirate bay.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (4, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862223)

With apologies to Ray Parker, Jr.:

If there's D-R-M, on your movie now,
Who ya gonna call?

The Pirate Bay!

If the U-S-B, key just died,
Who ya gonna call?

The Pirate Bay!

dooodooodit doo dit do dit doo dit doooo dit doooo dit dooo dooo dit dododo

I ain't afraid of no cops.

dooodooodit doo dit do dit doo dit doooo dit doooo dit dooo dooo dit dododo
I ain't afraid of no cops.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (4, Informative)

Threni (635302) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862381)

> With apologies to Ray Parker, Jr.:

who in turn apologizes and makes a substantial payment to Huey Lewis for shamelessly ripping his tune off.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (4, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862121)

Can't put it on a portable media player, either. What's the point of digital media you can't take on the go?

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (2, Insightful)

Jim_Maryland (718224) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862387)

Can I play it with the video player of my choosing or do I have to install yet another video player? I don't really want to have 10 different video players on my system. I don't want to have to maintain/update every one of them. I don't want each of them thinking they need to change file associations.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862253)

Oh come on. You're not buying the movie, it's a "value add". It's a stupid gimmick, but the usual soulful bemoaning of DRM is more than a little silly in this case. If it gets damaged, you've lost it, just like any other product. If I buy a keyboard or a hard drive or a glass crack pipe and it breaks, I've lost the product. I find DRM whining to be nonsensical.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862437)

And if you buy a keyboard with a glass crack pipe built in, and one of them breaks, then you are really boned.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

click2005 (921437) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862631)

Its hardly 'value add' when they're asking £23 more for the version with the movie on it.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862279)

The deeper issue is that it is ridiculously overpriced.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862309)

There is a point in the process between the USB Data and sending it to the display and sound. That is where the weekness is. Sure there is always the analog loophole. But you can get quality loss there. But for the hackers there is a spot where the data is sent and unencrypted and uncompressed that is probably sitting on your PC's Memory Before it sends it to the screen. If it is windows only then it may be some extra work, but nothing impossible... Heck a hardware hacker could probably find a way to duplicate and queue the memory up rather easy without the OS knowing what is happening. But for Linux a couple of kernel hacks and maybe a pipe to the tee command would do the trick. And like any other form of DRM it really only needs to be cracked once and spread for it to be useless.

I undersand the want for these companies for DRM however it is a fools game where you put so much money and effort and acheaving nothing from it. The black market has always been in competition with the legal market and there is only so much they can do until the Legal market can find a way to be competitive with the black market.

I would think fancy artistic box covers have done more to keep piracy down then any DRM has ever had. I would suggest that they make their Media DRM free but put more effort in its box art and presntation of their media.

Re:No thanks, I like to own media and do what I wa (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862441)

I like to own media and do what I want

You do own the media. It's just the contents of the media, the message if you will, that you don't own.

Betamax vs. VHS (1)

alexander_686 (957440) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862037)

O.K., so the Blue Ray just won the Hi Def Wars. So now we get into another format war? Sigh.

Re:Betamax vs. VHS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862123)

So now we get into another format war?

I highly doubt it.

Blu-Ray has a storage capacity of 25GB single sided and 50GB double-layer. The closed USB drive available to "compete" with that is probably something like this [google.com] which as you can see would not be cost effective at all.

Re:Betamax vs. VHS (5, Insightful)

Abreu (173023) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862149)

Blue Ray won't "win" the format wars until they sell more than standard def DVDs

Re:Betamax vs. VHS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862349)

Mod parent up. Blue Ray may have beat out HD-DVD, but they could still be eclipsed by some other standard just over the horizon. I doubt it will be USB-keys though.

Re:Betamax vs. VHS (1)

The Moof (859402) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862211)

Sneakernet's been around forever.

Re:Betamax vs. VHS (2, Insightful)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862335)

Nope. Blu-ray hasn't won anything. HD DVD lost.

Blu-ray has yet to get any traction, and in all honesty, with only higher quality video and marginally better audio to have over DVD, I seriously doubt it ever will. It's going to remain a niche videophile technology for the foreseeable future, until HD downloads become commonplace and available under reasonable pricing terms.

It might survive as a data storage technology though. The multilayer BD disk thing may not be suitable for pressed media, but it should work pretty well as a rewritable storage thing. 200Gb removable disks. Yum.

One positive (2, Funny)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862039)

One thing about movies on USB keys: At least they won't be scratched like they can be on DVDs.

Re:One positive (1)

prgrmr (568806) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862117)

Nope, just run through the washer and dryer, or taken to the drycleaner and lost forever.

Re:One positive (4, Interesting)

FlyByPC (841016) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862195)

I've actually had USB drives survive the washer-and-dryer bit. Not that I'd recommend it, but it's not necessarily fatal.

Re:One positive (1)

aitikin (909209) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862423)

Yeah, me too. In fact all but one of the USB flash drives I own have been through the wash and all still work fine.

Heck, even my brother's original iPod Shuffle (the one that looks like a regular flash drive) has been through the wash a number of times and still is fine.

Re:One positive (3, Insightful)

AuralityKev (1356747) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862137)

I imagine it would be easy to sell in places like airports. Need a flash drive for a few extra GB on the plane? Why not one that already has a bit of entertainment on it? From TFA I don't beleive it's meant to be just a movie conveyance.

Re:One positive (1)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862187)

One thing about movies on USB keys: At least they won't be scratched like they can be on DVDs.

That's a good point. The couple USB keys I own are just about the most durable pieces of electronics I've ever run across. They've been dropped, stepped on, run through both the washer and dryer repeatedly (I'll remember to check my pockets one of these days), and still work perfectly. I have some DVDs that have been scratched just from trying to play them, and if you look at them cross eyed they skip.

USB scratch remover (5, Funny)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862551)

I can sell you a can of high tech USB scratch remover. For only $19.99, this spray will remove scratches, improve picture quality and cure your herpes, but wait, now for a limited time offer you can get TWO cans for only $39.99...

DRM? laughable (1)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862045)

The DRM will be broken as soon as the first reasonably intelligent person gets his or her hands on one.

correction (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862091)

The DRM will be broken as soon as the first reasonably intelligent person

who doesn't already own a copy of ghostbusters

gets his or her hands on one.

Which probably makes for a rather small set of people.

Re:correction (4, Insightful)

berashith (222128) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862297)

The industry is looking to set a record on longest lived DRM scheme. Everyone has this already, so no one will need to crack it, and a presentation will go to a CEO somewhere about this new scheme that has not been broken in over a week.

Re:DRM? laughable (1)

drakethegreat (832715) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862103)

Yes sir because unlike Bluray or HDDVD, it doesn't cost tons of money to get a player hooked up to a computer.

Re:DRM? laughable (1)

Buzz_Litebeer (539463) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862119)

There is some good USB based DRM solutions, that when implemented correctly would be pretty difficult to get the stuff off of. Something like the Wibu Key and its codemeter product.

http://wibu.com/start.php?lang=en [wibu.com]

It actually keeps all keys on the key itself, and they cannot be lifted (though they can be set).

Fun technology but I doubt that this specific product goes that far as the Wibu key is expensive.

Re:DRM? laughable (1)

FlyByPC (841016) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862243)

If it can be played, it can be copied.

If nothing else, write your own video and audio drivers that "displays" the movie to a file.

Re:DRM? laughable (2, Informative)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862249)

If I can play it, I can copy it.

I am sure Windows has an equivalent of the following: "mplayer /media/disk/Ghostbusters.avi -dumpstream"

Re:DRM? laughable (1)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862373)

Yes, I believe it's something like:
vlc -I dummy "E:\Ghostbusters.avi" :sout='#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=4096,acodec=mp2a,ab=192,scale=1,channels=2,deinterlace,audio-sync}:std{access=file, mux=ps,url="C:\Ghostbusters.ps.mpg"}' vlc:quit

Re:DRM? laughable (5, Funny)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862417)

vlc -I dummy "E:\Ghostbusters.avi" :sout='#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=4096,acodec=mp2a,ab=192,scale=1,channels=2,deinterlace,audio-sync}:std{access=file, mux=ps,url="C:\Ghostbusters.ps.mpg"}'

And this is why Windows is fine for nerds and hobbyists, but not ready for the mainstream desktop.

Re:DRM? laughable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862363)

Do you actually believe this or are you just being funny?

Re:DRM? laughable (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862643)

I hope someone rips it and then emails it to her.

Denied (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862075)

A spokesperson for PNY explained that it comes with a form of DRM that prevents you from copying the movie.

Aw. That's adorable.

Re:Denied (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862353)

OMG PNYs!

Allow me to translate: A spokesperson for PNY explained that it comes with a form of DRM that temporarily delays children and the technologically inept from copying the movie.

"Go ahead and steal it", says spokesman (4, Insightful)

jfengel (409917) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862087)

You probably can't even get Ghostbusters down at your local "Three DVDs for $20" guy on the corner; his stock is all newer. Everybody who wants this movie already has it. I can't even imagine who they expect to sell it to, except as a novelty.

Presumably they're keeping an eye on how long it will take for the DRM to be broken. People will break it for the challenge and because they hate DRM, but it's like stealing cockroaches from my kitchen: you're welcome to it.

Re:"Go ahead and steal it", says spokesman (1)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862171)

You know what I like? When people download a 700MB .avi file of say....a full-length movie...and then drag-n-drop it onto a flash drive. And then they play it with Media player and ear buds.

Yeah. I really like that. ::rolls eyes::

=Smidge=

Re:"Go ahead and steal it", says spokesman (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862365)

Presumably they're keeping an eye on how long it will take for the DRM to be broken. People will break it for the challenge...

THAT movie? Give me a break. Sorry, not even for "the challenge". Takes me less time to find it in the "ten for a dollar!" bin at [insert your local Made-in-China distribution warehouse here].

Re:"Go ahead and steal it", says spokesman (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862541)

Well, there is a new video game being released next year, so I'm sure the Super Ectoplasm editions of the movies will also be released at the same time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters:_The_Video_Game [wikipedia.org]

2GB? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862101)

Can't be too great of quality at that size. Plus DRM? Boy, sure sounds like a winner.

Re:2GB? (1)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862465)

DVD quality takes less than 1/4 of a DVDs size. On 2 gigs you could get maybe half a nearly bluray quality movie, properly encoded.

DONGLE? (1)

arizwebfoot (1228544) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862165)

Does anybody remember Dongles? Is this a glimpse of the future for DRM's - having to have a flash drive or dongle to play your music/movie/whatever?


-- I for one welcome our Dongle Overlords.

Some advice for users: (4, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862181)

  • Those watching on HURD must NOT cross the STREAMS
  • BSD users should try to avoid summoning Daemons
  • This video contains excellent girl-getting advice for those Slashdot readers who collect spores, moulds and fungi
  • Windows users are advised to scan for indications of rootkits, goddesses and crazed dogs

Re:Some advice for users: (5, Funny)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862501)

Windows would have been fine if dickless here hadn't shut off the main power grid.

Who you gonna call... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862213)

when the USB drive breaks and you can't play back your media?

DRM mechanism messes up your computer (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862217)

Worse than starforce.

Damn thing is coated in an ectoplasm that clogs the fuck out of your USB ports.

How is this better than DVD? (3, Interesting)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862245)

Considering the DRM, how is it better than a regular DVD?

Re:How is this better than DVD? (3, Insightful)

wattrlz (1162603) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862403)

You can erase it and store actual information on it?

all aboard the failboat (0)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862271)

Flash memory has a finite lifespan, making it altogether unfit for this purpose. What happens when your usb key fails?

It's not quite the same as your DVD getting scratches.

Re:all aboard the failboat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862449)

>Flash memory has a finite lifespan

I'd be quite interested in learning what formats have infinite lifespans...

Re:all aboard the failboat (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862623)

Modern Flash has a very long lifetime.
"What happens when your usb key fails?"
same thing that happens when your DVD fails.

USB keychain movies (1)

sjonke (457707) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862317)

I think this is cool, but it will it work with my USB keychain changer?

No novelty packaging.. fail! (2, Interesting)

Rob Kaper (5960) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862351)

I can see this take off actually, the product allows for all sort of novelty packaging and product shapes. Forget about browsing the alphabet of your closet to find Spider-Man, just find the Spider-Man shaped USB key! Collecting large quantities might make organised storage a bit of a challenge though.

Does USB mass storage provide a way to ensure read-only access though? I wouldn't want some virus to have the potential to delete my porn, erm, Star Trek collection.

Not Impressed (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862409)

So you need to have this USB key to play the movie (some hidden key file or internal serial number one suspects). That means we're back to hard to replicate dongles. Clearly the USB stick is of little use otherwise singe the movie takes up the bulk of the space on it (unless it's compressed down to crap quality), you can't plug it into your DVD player or television, and you need to take another one for each additional movie. Do you really want to go on a trip with 20 dongles just so that you can watch 20 movies? And I doubt it plays on your iPod.

I'm not impressed.

Physical media (1)

SamSim (630795) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862413)

Physical media? Pff, what century is this?

Re:Physical media (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862565)

If it was ectoplasm I'd be impressed...

HAHAHAHAHAHA! (0)

DarthVain (724186) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862447)

First off, the DRM will be broken in about 3 seconds, as has been pointed out by many.

Secondly, no one will have to break the DRM as no one is going to buy this POS.

What I was wondering is how much does the think cost? If you follow the link to buy:

Its 30$....

In British Pounds (60$ US).....

For Ghostbusters....

on a 2GB thumb drive that costs 10$ (maybe!) which is crippled by DRM.

and being only 2GB you know the resolution will crap. (By crap I mean certainly not HD, and probably not even up to DVD standards. I expect your standard 280x320 (or whatever the std is for TV) POS, good for an old school TV but not much else).

Seriously ghostbusters? I mean it is a classic and has a cult status, but really most people would expect to pay 5.99$ Canadian at Walmart for that.

Anyway a joke. What were they smoking when they came up with this idea! lol

Too costly, too ubiquitous (1)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862451)

While it's fine for a small-physical-format solid-state distribution medium, it's just too costly compared to (piracy aside) a DVD copy at $5-10. If the device's price were reduced for such content, fine ... but since a common 2GB thumbdrive is about $10, by what sanity is paying a >$20 premium to have just one movie thereon (and occupying significant space) reasonable?

Thing is, you get a thumbdrive to haul data around in ... and do you really want to be constantly hauling the same single movie around with a bunch of other data? No. We're not talking an iPod which has your whole CD or DVD collection handily available, we're talking a device which you'll keep handy yet is significantly devoted to one content which you won't watch much.

Imagine carrying around the Ghostbusters DVD all the time. Preposterous, no? This may be marginally more convenient, but still goofy.

The better question... (2, Insightful)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862471)

How long before the DRM is cracked? I'll be generous and give it a month, tops.

It's a sign of the end... (1)

barnyjr (1259608) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862479)

USB movies, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

More Sane DRM (such as it is)? (1)

Sniper511 (1350103) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862527)

Yeah, ok, it'll be broken in 5 minutes. With y'all there. ;)

But this is an interesting idea (if the industry is going to continue to insist upon DRM)... the only problem I have with it is whether a USB key for each movie would be too hard to manage and keep track of.

PC/Laptop? (1)

jrothwell97 (968062) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862549)

so customers can download the movie onto their laptop or PC if they wish,

But a laptop is a PC...

I don't see the point in this. It seems that simply shifting between media is not the way to go: film downloads are the future. Be they rentals or outright purchases, movie downloads are going to kill the physically-sold film. (With devices like home entertainment computers and Apple TVs, it's just a matter of time.)

I am the chosen keymaster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862557)

"Are you the USB keymaster?"

Yes, I manage to plug in the usb key the right way every time. Seriously, is this statement supposed to get me excited about limiting the access to my own computer with DRM? I'll pass.

FIRsT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24862561)

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heh (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#24862593)

" A spokesperson for PNY explained that it comes with a form of DRM that prevents you from copying the movie. "

BWAHAHAHAHAHahahha

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