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Cross-Platform Video Chat For Linux?

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the would-be-nice dept.

Communications 338

Ethan1701 writes "Some of my friends are using iChat to stay in touch and gap the distance of the Atlantic. I'm feeling left out on my Fedora Gnome based desktop. Is there a good program for Gnome that provides cross-platform instant messaging and video chat? This rules out Skype and aMSN, as well as any other app that's specific for the ICQ/AOL Network. Kopete is for KDE. Pidgin doesn't intend to develop video-chat, I haven't found a plugin for it that provides video, and Gaim-vv hasn't been developed in over two years and is so out of date that it's still going by Gaim and not Pidgin. Do Slashdot readers have an application that meets these needs? Maybe even one that surpasses iChat?"

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Ekiga (5, Informative)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971019)

http://www.ekiga.org/ [ekiga.org]

Ekiga seems to do what you want, it has pretty good support for various kinds of webcams in Linux.

Re:Ekiga (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971033)

Ekiga is the worst softphone on the planet.

Re:Ekiga (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971139)

[citation needed]

Re:Ekiga (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971623)

Horses are somewhat different from other animals in the way their cock head works. When a horse is fully erect and excited and ready to mount, his cock head is somewhat pointed and not as thick as might be normally observed. This is to facilatate an easier entry into the mare. After the horse has entered and reaches a climax the head swells (though it is more spongy then hard) into a fist sized mass as he ejacultates. It is thought that this serves as a plug to force the semen deep into the mare rather then allowing it to leak out. It will take quite a few spurts to accomplish this. Each time his tail will raise and lower in a brief flick. The final few jets are of a thick gelatinous substance. This serves to "seal" the mares pussy so that the semen has time to do it's thing before leaking out. Horse semen is extremely viscous, if you touch your finger to a pool of it you can draw a thin string of it five to six feet long! Horse cum has a nice flat taste to it...not at all bitter like man's cum.

Mares can be quite satisfactory for the average well endowed male. If you are somewhat less developed you might find better pleasure with a pony or Miniature Horse. Fucking any horse will depend on the horse. Some will be ready right away...some will take coaxing. Pet the animal, talk to it softly, spend time with it gaining it's trust. If something you are doing upsets it then don't force it. Talk to it and calm it. If you work slowly you can make an animal accept anything. It is just a question of helping it overcome it's fears.

When the filly reaches weaning age, seperate her from her dam. If you have limited time to spend then she should be put to pasture. If you have plenty of time then you should keep her in a stall. I have walked up on a pen full of strange fillys at night and they came right up to me and I petted them and felt up their pussies and they just lifted their tails and seemed to enjoy it. These fillies didn't even know me but they were young, inexperienced and bored...also since they were penned they were used to the presence of people and did not fear me.

Wild mares are used to violent horsecock and the others have had peoples arms in their cunts so they can be apprehensive about sexual events. Start rubbing ,scratching, etc in different areas and observe the mare to see what she likes. If she reacts to this well she might raise her tail somewhat. Gently rub her pussy and see how she reacts. Standing directly in front of a horse is hazardous as it can raise on it's hind legs and come down with a front hoof on your head. I have had mare that welcomed me...pushed back every time I shoved, and contracted her cunt to milk my cock dry. Horses are some of the best pussy I have ever tried! Treat her as she wants and she will give you all.

Stallions that have succesfully coupled in the wild are somewhat resistant from seduction by humans. If they are isolated, tempted and trained, then they will become more acquiessent but the best ones are those that have been raised in a human enviroment since weaning, since they have not had sex with other horses they are more amenable to having sex with humans when their hormones kick in and they are looking for some release. Bringing a wild horse to orgasm can be more difficult. They are used to a mares pussy which is several degrees hotter then a humans body heat. A person could fuck or suck them and not bring them to the point of orgasm unless they had been isolated and deprived and unable to help but cut loose with a load. Stallions are aroused by the scent of mares in heat and then an artificial vagina filled with warm water is slipped over their cock and they reach orgasm. The stallions soon learn the routine and just be leading them into the proper barn they know what is coming and obtain an erection. Stallions are aroused by the smell of horse pussy above all else.

If you have access to a mare, then gentle her till she will let you finger her...then coat your fingers with her juice. Now rub your fingers across the stallions nose! He will react even if she is not in heat! He knows the smell! I have done this to geldings! Horses that have been castrated and they still got a hardon!!! Also pet & rub the horse and rub his cock...don't pull on it hard.. be gentle...big as it is it is still tender! If you rub his belly and sheath slowly and gently and let him smell some horse pussy juice then he will erect. If you can find a horse in heat then grab some urine and refrigerate it. Take some out and thaw it when you want it. Rubbing some hot mare piss on a stallions nose will make him horny as hell! He will be all over you! Once a stallion smells that he doesn't care what he fucks! He just wants a hot hole. Make sure there are no other horses around...otherwise he will jump them instead of you!

Some horses have been trained too react to certain cues, others react to their own natural cues...I remember a $1,000,000.00 Arabian stallion I trained.. He stuck his tounge out about 1/2 inch...when someone would rub this small crescent he would instantly get a raging hardon...more proof that stallions are very oral. This stallion had never had sex with a mare...he had only climaxed through the intervention of humans and was quite happy with having sex in a artificial vagina with the help of humans...training does wonders.

Nobody should attempt intercourse with a stallion unless they are experienced in fist-fucking or they have taken a large dog in to the max (knot and all). Hint: A large dog can stretch you where a horse can fit if you make the switch before the hole shrivels.

Country boys - you know where the animals are and how to get them.

City Boys - Drive out to the suburbs and find some horses. Try to get them used to you and then return at night to have some fun. IF there are stables around then spend some time there. You can help run the show by day and return for sex at night. Just be careful, there is less privacy in the city as compared to the country. You sure don't want to be caught!

Re:Ekiga (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971839)

[Citation Rejected]

Re:Ekiga (1)

Ignominous_one (1362399) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971305)

Yeah, Ekiga is nice and works well.

Re:Ekiga (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971663)

How does it compare to Coccinella? [thecoccinella.org]

Re:Ekiga (4, Informative)

cs668 (89484) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971455)

I've had good luck with Ekiga on Linux, but my friends that use windows have stability problems with it.

It will stop sending audio, and after one call can not make anymore without the system being restarted( this is on Vista though so who knows the cause ).

Re:Ekiga (4, Informative)

Soruk (225361) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971617)

I'll second this. While I've found Ekiga in Linux to be reliable, friends who have used the Windows version (in WinXP) have suddenly found themselves transmitting high-pitched loud squeaks.

Re:Ekiga (4, Funny)

MarginalWatcher (1055844) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971929)

Are you sure it wasn't because they found themselves using an operating system designed by Microsoft?

Re:Ekiga (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971491)

If it wasn't that he ask for the impossible with his cross platform requirements as well, rendering amsn, skype, gizmo, ekiga, kopete (don't ask me why but obviously it did), x-lite and probably a couple of other clients out of the question (I think I knew one for Gnome to but I can't remember the name.)

Personally I'd be happy enough if there was one client doing SIP + XMPP + jingle VoIP and webcam.

Re:Ekiga (4, Informative)

Warbothong (905464) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971709)

Gnome seems to be adopting Empathy ( http://live.gnome.org/Empathy [gnome.org] ) as their default messaging application (they used to use Gossip). Empathy includes voice and video support (although I've never got it to work myself), so it seems unclear at the moment if Ekiga will remain part of Gnome.

As a side note, I've never got Ekiga to work either, but this is something to do with NAT traversal which doesn't seem to work even after forwarding the ports given in the documentation.

first (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971023)

First!

Re:first (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971101)

No, second.

Patience (5, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971029)

Pidgin doesn't intend to develop video-chat

http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GSoC2008/VoiceAndVideo [pidgin.im]

"Making good progress: it works"

So its coming along.

Re:Patience (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971123)

Voice and Video also supposedly worked when it was Gaim about 4 years ago.

Re:Patience (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971153)

A lot of shit has changed in 4 years dude. The protocols, codecs and chat networks are all different.

Re:Patience (4, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971193)

4 years ago, it mostly worked. Gaim said merge the fork back in, and we'll finish it. Except I watched SVN and the whole branch was dusty and ignored for years, despite being the most requested feature. One could argue that the fork accomplished what Gaim couldn't, and merging the fork back in killed it.

It is a GSOC student who is putting the feature in now, not the core Gaim/Pidgin devs, which says something. Years later, a student did it part time over the summer, where as a large team couldn't begin to touch it for years.

Re:Patience (3, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971265)

Well, personally, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot barge pole. Getting text to work with these stupid undocumented protocols is hard enough. I imagine getting video to work is pulling your hair out work.

Re:Patience (2, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971441)

True, but one could contend the protocol market is easier now than it was 4 years ago. Goolge uses Jabber, and so does AOL, which used to frequently change their protocol to screw with third party clients. I know Pidgin supports tons of protocols but AOL/Google/Microsoft/Yahoo are the big ones. Two of those are much easier to support now.

Re:Patience (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971621)

Though what have been done is voip and video for XMPP which isn't undocumented.

Re:Patience (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971769)

The bigger issue is that there are many people (myself included), who don't want voice or video in Pidgin. I MIGHT be more receptive to them if they were completely modular, independent plugins so that I don't have to load them. But I love Pidgin for its simplicity, lightness, and stability. Adding video/voice would likely harm those items.

any idea how many times ive seen that phrase? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971367)

'making good progress', 'in the works', does not mean 'solution'. mostly, on oss projects, it means there is a small chance someone will stay committed enough to get it going. mostly, though, 'in the works' means 'will be unusable forever'.

now im sure im gonna get flamed, but lets think about it from the user perspective for once (oh the horror). they need the machine to do something. they ask you if it can do xyz. you say 'its in progress'. what good does that do them?

how about if you bring your car to my mechanic shop. you say 'can i convert it to hybrid'. i say, 'well, no, but there are guys up in washington state who sell conversion kits'. 'is there a kit for my car'. 'well, no but, if we take a transmission just like yours and send it to them, they can fabricate a coupler.' "ok what about the battery box". 'well, thats in progress'.

Re:any idea how many times ive seen that phrase? (3, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971527)

how about if you bring your car to my mechanic shop. you say 'can i convert it to hybrid'. i say, 'well, no, but there are guys up in washington state who sell conversion kits'. 'is there a kit for my car'. 'well, no but, if we take a transmission just like yours and send it to them, they can fabricate a coupler.' "ok what about the battery box". 'well, thats in progress'.

Are you doing all this for me for free? If so, I should say "thank you" and not fucking complain.

Re:any idea how many times ive seen that phrase? (2, Funny)

Curtman (556920) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972055)

Are you doing all this for me for free? If so, I should say "thank you" and not fucking complain.

Give the kid a break. He used a car analogy and everything. He's been doing his homework.

Re:Patience (1)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972121)

I'm hoping that after next year's GSOC, it will work completely and have a decent UI. The problem is that the pidgin developers are pretty busy fixing bugs and changes in protocols and don't care for additional features. I can see their point of view, and it seems like any users who would have the ability to code something like this don't want it, and the ones that want it can't code VV. Personally, I don't care for it but it will be nice to have a lot of the bitching silenced.

The Kludge (1, Troll)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971051)

You could always RDP or VNC to your Windows box running Trillian or a Mac running iChat. There's also VMWare or xVM (VirtualBox). Not pretty, but would work... and I think I recall at least some version of Trillian being pretty stable with WINE.

Re:The Kludge (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971271)

You could always RDP or VNC to your Windows box

What windows box?

I've read stupid posts on /. before (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971283)

But this one has me boggled.

Video - over RDP/VNC is not a solution.

Video and Audio processing is intense.

Once again, while Linux is free - you get what you pay for.

I do my video chats with Skype with both Windows and Mac clients. It works wonderfully.

There is no GOOD reason to limit yourself to one OS. Computers are cheap and OS's are free and cheap.

Real men chat in ascii (2, Interesting)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971071)

I think there is a text chat plug-in for lynx.

Re:Real men chat in ascii (5, Funny)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971649)

works ok if you look your best in ascii encoded video I guess ;)

Skype (5, Informative)

Deltaspectre (796409) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971099)

It's cross platform and video chat definitely works, I don't see the submitters problem with it.

Re:Skype (4, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971137)

Skype 1 doesn't do Video on Linux, but I'm pretty sure it works with Skype 2 and above on Linux.

Also Kopete is cross-platform these days with binaries on Solaris, BSD, Mac, Windows and Linux.

Re:Skype (1)

fbjon (692006) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971279)

Is there any reason to use Skype 1 then? None that I know of... which means Skype is a good contender.

Re:Skype (4, Informative)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971355)

but I'm pretty sure it works with Skype 2 and above on Linux

Yeah, I think the submitter could have skipped Ask Slashdot if he had RTFW. I use Skype to video chat with a Mac, an n810, and my daughter's eeePC (pink, of course).

If you want to dismiss Skype on the grounds that they're rabidly anti-GPL, fine, but that wasn't a requirement.

Re:Skype (2, Funny)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971701)

Yeah but does it work with a black eeepc?

Re:Skype (5, Insightful)

StrategicIrony (1183007) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971445)

Skype works fine in Linux, with Video.

I use it all the time (with video) on my Acer Aspire One (similar to the Asus EEE) with Linpus Linux (which is a Fedora deriverative running XFCE).

I have also used it in Ubuntu and Kubuntu with video, without problems.

I'm still not sure the OP's gripe with Skype.

Re:Skype (1)

myfigurefemale (1009667) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971973)

because he wants Jabber support! AIM and GTalk...or I misread it. But that's what I want...

Re:Skype (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971581)

Also Kopete is cross-platform these days with binaries on Solaris, BSD, Mac, Windows and Linux.

So what's the problem with using Kopete in GNOME again?

"Kopete is for KDE" is like saying "Firefox is for GNOME". To be fair, Firefox isn't as tied to GNOME, and could be ported to Qt, whereas Kopete almost certainly links in KDElibs -- but that's no reason you can't use it, unless you're severely low on RAM.

Re:Skype (2, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971645)

Actually Nokia is currently working on a QT port of Firefox. And you can use Kopete in GNOME as you mentioned.

Re:Skype (1)

KillerBob (217953) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971637)

Kopete is also not KDE-only on Linux... yes, you do need to install some of the KDE libraries, but I'm using it under XFCE for the simple reason that Pidgin is not to my liking.

Re:Skype (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971373)

It's not like, ya know, FREE, man.

Re:Skype (3, Informative)

evanbd (210358) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971613)

Skype *audio* doesn't work here (Debian, skype 2). Not to mention that it seems to use a brain-dead chat protocol the loses messages into the aether for extended periods (hours, sometimes, and I've seen longer). I can fully understand the OP's reluctance to use it.

Re:Skype (5, Insightful)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971661)

It's also compatible with nothing else, all code are unknown and it's proprietary like shit. Also you will have no idea what happens on the network and your communications is sent over P2P.

Greeeeat!!! / Tony.

It's not GNOME (2, Informative)

pavon (30274) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972033)

That was the submitters problem with it, along with kopete, which also works well. Stupid I know.

Skype video chat works on linux... (3, Informative)

mgkimsal2 (200677) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971209)

with at least some cameras. I got some $25 walmart webcam and it works on Skype with my cheapo linux laptop. If the submitter is really hankering for 'open source' and 'practical' and 'easy to use', then he/she is SOL - there's no good options that satisfy all those requirements.

Re:Skype video chat works on linux... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971417)

Indeed! I have used Skype on a 1GhZ, 512MB, paper-weight desktop running Ubuntu/Gnome, with old Sony web-cam and it worked GREAT. And this was chatting with my girlfriend who was using Skype on her Macbook Pro. Why the hell are you writing Skype off? It's free as in beer, even if it's not free as in speech. There -are- times that using closed source is okay, 'cause frankly, as much as I am a HUGE supporter of OSS, especially Linux, sometimes it takes OSS quite some time to catch up.

Empathy (4, Informative)

Tester (591) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971215)

Empathy has video chat using jingle, it is compatible with Google Talk on windows (if you use Jabber). And it uses Telepathy, so it supports many many protocols. That said, Voice/Video are currently only supported for Jabber and SIP, there is ongoing work to make it work with MSN too.

The Pidgin-vv work is actually very much alive and you should see a release soon.

Empathy (4, Informative)

pipegeek (624626) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971223)

Empathy IM is worth mentioning. It's pretty basic right now, but it's been incorporated into the Gnome project and is developing rapidly. Check it out [gnome.org] .

I dont know .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971225)

what 'kopete' is, but if its a linux app, and it offers the features you need, use it. KDE and Gnome are not OS platforms, they are just windowing environments.

I use a variety of both KDE *AND* Gnome applications, and yet I am not running either KDE *or* Gnome.

Skype (4, Informative)

StrategicIrony (1183007) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971245)

I don't understand.

I'm in Skype right now on my Fedora/KFCE laptop, talking with a friend in the Ukraine who is using Kubuntu and I just got off a conference with a few people in our office in California who use MacOSX and Windows Vista.

What am I missing about Skype that makes it unusable?

Re:Skype (2, Informative)

Eugenia Loli (250395) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971543)

The AIM part. The guy is interested mostly in IM video chat, not Skype or Ekiga SIP.

Re:Skype (2, Interesting)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971789)

http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=961481&cid=24971661 [slashdot.org]

It's not compatible with anything else or uses some standard for anything, it has an encrypted binary of which the code is unknown, it uses encrypted network connections so you don't know what's going on there either, it sends your data around using P2P.

Imho it's the worst kind of IM client there is, except it works.

Re:Skype (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971921)

This is probably a "Dorothy Dix" question from somebody involved in a gnome video conferencing project. I can not think of any other reason why gnome is a requirement, a lot of things can be skinned to look similar from other graphical toolkits.

You can use Kopete in Gnome (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971257)

Just because it uses the KDE libraries doesn't mean you can't run it in Gnome (provided you have the KDE libraries)

Re:You can use Kopete in Gnome (1)

Aetuneo (1130295) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971607)

My thoughts exactly. On most of the ubuntu boxes I use, it just doesn't seem to matter if an application is designed for KDE, Gnome, or something completely different: they just work.

Re:You can use Kopete in Gnome (2, Informative)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971675)

While non-KDE Qt programs themselves load just as fast as their GTK+ counterparts, KDE libraries tend to take about 7-10 seconds to load in GNOME. To make matters worse, most of the time there is no visible activity while loading takes place, making it look like the program never launched.

Mercury Messenger (Java-based client for MSNMSGR) (5, Informative)

ezyzeke (1355059) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971295)

Mercury messenger is java based (and thus cross-platform) and uses MSN messenger service including webcam chat (I'm not sure about audio-only chat). I use it in Mac OS X and works quite decently, and it is available in with package installer for Mac OS X, deb (Debian/Ubuntu) and rpm (Fedora/Redhat/many Others), and it is also available as tgz. I'm not sure if it is open source, though. List of features (from their website): * Sign in with multiple accounts, Fast file transfering, Simultaneous sending & receiving webcam, Offline messaging, Extensive event notifications, User defined event actions, Single window (tabbed) conversations, Customizable contact list, Customizable message views, Custom status icons, Custom emoticons, Resource saving (Webcam streams, Display pictures, Emoticons), HTTP Proxy, Yahoo contacts, Audio/Video conference, Multi OS, Runs from USB stick, Language support Website: http://mercury.im/ [mercury.im]

Re:Mercury Messenger (Java-based client for MSNMSG (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971833)

I'd much rather use aMSN or even more so future aMSN2 then mercury. Try it out, it runs on OS X to, much slower than Adium obviously but anyway.

Well... (1)

actionbastard (1206160) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971297)

"I'm feeling left out on my Fedora Gnome based desktop."

If you were running Ubuntu...

Re:Well... (2, Informative)

BPPG (1181851) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971611)

Actually, that's an interesting point. Not that you actually need to be running Ubuntu, but if you're running any Linux desktop you should be able to do anything that's reported to be doable in Ubuntu. It might just take a little more elbow-grease.

Billie-G's spanking boy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971321)

"Is there a good program for Gnome that provides cross-platform instant messaging and video chat? This rules out Skype and aMSN, as well as any other app that's specific for the ICQ/AOL Network. Kopete is for KDE..."

You're obviously a retarded dimwit. Kopete is NOT *for* KDE. Kopete is a program that serves a purpose. It works just as well in GNOME as it does in KDE, Fluxbox, XFCE, Windowmaker, or any other desktop environment/window manager.
With reasoning as fucked up as yours you probably think a program using the FLTK shouldn't be used by you either because it's "not written for GNOME".
Do us all a favour and piss of back to Billie-G's ass crack.

Skype and KDE applications run fine under Gnome (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971337)

Despite the fact you said "this rules out Skype", and asserted the KDE applications won't work for you, in fact, both Skype and KDE applications will run fine under Gnome.

I personally use Gkype under Gnome with zero problems, although I've only played with the video-conferencing features and not used them in earnest.

ustream.tv (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971363)

I don't know if it works with Linux, but I know it works with both Windows and OS X, so its worth a try. Basically they have software built into the web page that allows you to share your video and audio, streaming it directly to them.

Then from them, you can stream it out to any number of people. That doesn't really allow for two way video chat, but it may give you the option of getting your video out.

Use it anyways. (2, Funny)

hxftw (996114) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971391)

Use Kopete anyways? It won't kill you. Loading the libraries for both UI tool kits wont make your computer explode.

Feeling left out (4, Insightful)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971403)

"I'm feeling left out"

Congratulations, you've just comprehended the whole of Apple's advertising strategy. :-)

Try Digsby (1)

ilovesymbian (1341639) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971427)

>> Gaim-vv hasn't been developed in over two years and is so out of date that it's still going by Gaim and not Pidgin.

Gaim has been renamed to Pidgin a while now (even on my Windows PC).

You may want to try Digsby [digsby.com] , I heard the new update to it has video support too.

Re:Try Digsby (1)

mutende (13564) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971549)

You may want to try Digsby, ...

Digsby is unavailable for Linux.

Re:Try Digsby (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971905)

Webpage doesn't mention webcam, voip, ..

QuteCom (1)

ghost4096 (661448) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971481)

Re:QuteCom (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971943)

... is Windows only, and VengoPhone crashes immediately on my mac.

Digsby (1)

rdyer1 (1003835) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971487)

Digsby is a nice cross platform, multi-protocol IM client. I use it at work with XPpro and at home with Vista and Ubuntu to connect to Yahoo, MSN and Google Talk networks. Works flawlessly so far... Supports the requested ICQ and AOL networks.

Re:Digsby (1)

rdyer1 (1003835) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971547)

opps, I read your post as wanting ICQ and AOL support...Digsby still should do what your looking for though.

Re:Digsby (1)

myfigurefemale (1009667) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972035)

digsby doesn't work on linux yet!

Kopete is for KDE. (4, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971515)

So what? It will work fine (though I don't know that it will do waht you want). It just won't match the rest of your desktop. With few exceptions KDE applications work fine on a Gnome "desktop" and vice-versa.

Re:Kopete is for KDE. (1)

FilthCatcher (531259) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971915)

and there's QGtkStyle on it's way to make your KDE-based apps pick up your gnome style/look-and-feel.

GTK-Qt does the inverse for displaying gnome apps within KDE

Fri5t 4sot. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971565)

WORTHWHILE. IT'S

Open Wengo has always worked for me... (3, Informative)

rubbsdecvik (1326987) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971585)

http://www.openwengo.org/ [openwengo.org] Works well for me. Cross platform and works well for me.

Gizmo! (1)

josmar52789 (1152461) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971603)

Gizmo's got everything you need - plus you can escape the world of Skype! It does video, voice, chat, and conference...

Re:Gizmo! (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971999)

Secondary SIP account support is broken ftm though, at least in the OS X-version, so for me it's useless as a SIP client, for everything else adium is much better so until that is fixed there is no gizmo for me.

So what exactly is wrong with aMSN? (1)

kdcttg (980465) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971647)

It has had webcam support for donkeys!

Re:So what exactly is wrong with aMSN? (1)

jannone (1145713) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971809)

For me, it's slow as molasses... specially when streaming from a webcam.

xmeeting (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971655)

FYI you may want to look at xmeeting type things. xmeeting is for windows and os x, but it's h.323, and is compatible with other h.323 video systems. It works great with polycoms for example. (ichat I hear is also h.323 but isn't cross-compatible for god-knows-what-reason) There's gotta be an h.323 compatible something for linux.

Note that you will lose some of the frills like buddy lists, text chat, etc, but you do sometimes get new toys... with xmeeting for example, you can aim/zoom the remote polycom. I don't know of any other video chat cross platform anything that lets you do that sort of thing.

Still don't understand why you're writing off skype though. Works spectacularly well on windows and mac, and I thought there was skype for linux [skype.com] also?

It's been my experience that ichat is more reliable and smoother / better quality for video chats, whereas skype does voice much better. Both seem pretty good at automatically working through NAT on both ends, which I'm sure if I saw all the shenanigans they had to do to pull that off, I'd pass out.

Yakkle is the answer (0, Offtopic)

gniterobot (1362453) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971657)

I believe you are looking for Yakkle. Check out Yakkle.com for more info. IM, Voice, Video , Desktop sharing... It's the best kept secret for open source communication.

Re:Yakkle is the answer (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972051)

Don't see to do webcam, also it was written in Java and eventually it does all protocols over XMPP transports? In that case why not just use gtalk or something such and don't be bothered with Java?

Re:Yakkle is the answer (1)

myfigurefemale (1009667) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972085)

doesn't support video chat!

Tokbox (1)

LIGC (974596) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971713)

http://tokbox.com/ [tokbox.com] does multi person video conferencing all through flash and the web browser, so no need to install an app. I believe Flash 10 supports v4l and v4l2 so it should work in linux, haven't tested it though.

Tokbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971733)

Would a service like Tokbox [tokbox.com] work? It uses Flash for audio and video.

It's what Digsby on Windows uses for their audio and video chatting.

Tokbox is awesome (1)

WhiteWolf666 (145211) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971753)

Seconding Tokbox.

Use it through Meebo.com

feeling left out.. (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971757)

i'm guessing it's not the first time given he is using a linux desktop.

H.323? (1)

sysgeek01 (866290) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971761)

How about anything that supports H.323? GnomeMeeting, NetMeeting, etc. It would be a lot easier to set up a multi-platform H.323 network than one that used proprietary protocols based on the various chat networks.

You can Get a Mac. (2, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971783)

There is always an option of Getting a Mac. Sometimes sticking to your guns on some moral high ground has a cost as well. But depending on the technical level of your friends having them run an App so you can join in too may not work. As they may not use it. THey may be using iChat for AIM talking then they need to switch to a different app Which may not be as nice as iChat to talk to you. Will probably just become you doing a text chat while the others are using iChat for video. The more people you convince to use a different app the harder it gets.

Re:You can Get a Mac. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#24971963)

I doubt the asker would like to pay $2000 to keep his friends from having a slight inconvenience.

Re:You can Get a Mac. (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972109)

In that case isn't it just much smarter to install Windows on the computer he already have if anything?

Also iChat sucks balls, it looks like trash and don't support MSN at all so who cares if it does AIM video? Over here in Sweden no one seems to use ICQ or AIM longer and everyone use MSN and Skype. So I use Adium until I find an application which does SIP + XMPP with jingle webcam+voip. If I would use iChat I would have to run MSN over XMPP transport and try to convince everyone to install aim for webcam. Yeah right that will work! ...

Stupid closed protocols, give me a jabber implementation which works.

GYachI (2, Informative)

zentagonist (944342) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971851)

If you have a Yahoo account or aren't opposed to getting one, you could give GYachI a try ... it looks like it hasn't been worked on in almost two years, but video messaging works pretty well http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Gizmo (2, Informative)

johnkzin (917611) | more than 5 years ago | (#24971977)

Is there a reason you haven't looked into Gizmo?

http://gizmo5.com/ [gizmo5.com]

Linux, Mac, Windows

Has video conferencing. Though, I do have to honestly say I don't know if it works on Linux (I hear other people raving about Gizmo, and its video conf. abilities, and they're linux users, so I assumed... so sorry if I'm leading you off on a wild goose chase).

Paltalk Express (1)

drei22 (1026046) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972027)

If you have ever used Paltalk they now have a web based version of their video & audio chat service in Beta. It works very well through Mozilla but for now only the audio portion is working and video will be working sometime this month. Check it out. www.paltalk.com/express

You don't need an application (1)

stms (1132653) | more than 5 years ago | (#24972155)

www.meebo.com supports aol msn jabber yahoo google talk and icq video chat and audio chat.
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