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Microsoft To Announce Jerry Seinfeld Ads Cancelled

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the put-it-to-bed dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Valleywag says the Jerry Seinfeld ads are over — In a phone call, Frank Shaw confirms that Microsoft is not going on with Seinfeld, and echoes his underlings' spin that the move was planned. There is the 'potential to do other things' with Seinfeld, which Shaw says is still 'possible.' He adds: 'People would have been happier if everyone loved the ads, but this was not unexpected.'"

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Penny Arcade called it (5, Funny)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051927)

Re:Penny Arcade called it (4, Insightful)

KGIII (973947) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051955)

One can only hope we've gotten smarter, we Americans, since the Seinfeld era... Some of his shows were good and his standup was brilliant but really the majority of shows seemed to be the most retarded things on television at the time. It was sort of like how I've never seen a single episode of Friends and yet, while the show was running, I knew everything that was going on because of the commercials.

Re:Penny Arcade called it (1, Insightful)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052013)

I'm so glad someone said this. I've never got the Seinfeld thing. I tried to watch a few shows but thought they were embarassingly bad and unfunny. Normally I'd have just written them off as being American (I'm not) 'humour' and therefor not for me but loads of people in my country used to rate it too so I thought I was probably missing something fundemental. I'll have to look for some of his standup as you say that's much better.

Re:Penny Arcade called it (0, Offtopic)

OK PC (857190) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052181)

I actually really liked the first three seasons and I also spell it "humour".
It was all about real situations turned surreal by the characters involved.
However, when I bought the forth season, apparently when the show hit it's stride, I was massively disappointed with the direction they took. The episodes became sillier and sillier and they really lost what they were trying to do in the first place, a sitcom without sitcom cliches. With the exception of certain episodes, such as "Master of their domain", it wasn't worth watching anymore because it didn't ring true.
For God's sake, there is even an episode where George is pretending to be a Whale Biologist to get a woman and when they are wandering the beach they happen to come across a beached whale!

Re:Penny Arcade called it (5, Insightful)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052201)

Glad the ads are dead. There's "cool" surreal. (See: Rutger Hauer Guinness commercials [youtube.com] in the late 80's and early 90's) Then there is utterly retarded. That was these.

I never got "Seinfeld" either. I saw a few episodes and it was okay I guess, but I never understood why it became so huge as it wasn't that funny. "No soup for you." Indeed.

Give me "Larry Sanders" any day over that.

Re:Penny Arcade called it (5, Interesting)

Daengbo (523424) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052667)

That's because the first few seasons were his comedy routine written into skits. Really. If you watched his stand-up before the show aired, nothing in the first season was new at all.

Re:Penny Arcade called it (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25051997)

They fucked up, now if I were in charge Bill would have been facing off against the Soup Nazi. Then they could have introduced Ballmer as Bill's heavy. "Ballmer want soup! You give Ballmer soup! Oook ook." Ballmer slowly swivels his head to look semi-intelligently at Jerry and Bill, "Seinfeld want soup! Mr developer guy, he want soup too, you give us soup!"

The Soup Nazi yells "Next!" Ballmer picks up a chair ... (well you knew it was coming).

People would have been happier? (4, Insightful)

Pikoro (844299) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051947)

"People would have been happier if everyone loved the ads, but this was not unexpected."

As if anyone understood the ad at all, let alone were happy about it.

Re:People would have been happier? (1)

dvice_null (981029) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052045)

They did get quite a lot of free marketing because of that campaign. And Microsoft has never been bad in marketing.

I'm scared that the adds had some psychological element to brainwash us.

Re:People would have been happier? (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052359)

They did get quite a lot of free marketing because of that campaign.

I'm not sure having the technorati (who were, let's face it, the only people who paid any attention at all to these ads) standing around the water cooler saying "WTF?? How stupid! What were they thinking?" the effect they were looking for.

Re:People would have been happier? (4, Insightful)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052469)

Or having older folks come up to tech guys like me with questions like "Hey,did you see that Seinfeld commercial with that computer guy?" 'Bill Gates and yeah,what about it?' "Well,what does it mean?" like there was some hidden geek code in the thing that only tech guys would understand. Not a single person said anything about Microsoft,Windows,OR Vista.....they just wanted to know what the secret meaning to the ads were. I think because nobody could accept that anyone would spend that kind of money on ads that didn't actually SELL anything.

Me personally,I have to say that for me that have to take the cake as really stupid ads go. I mean,sure that one where the idiot girl raises her arms every 3 seconds to show you her pits is irritating as hell,but at least you knew what she was pushing,but with the Seinfeld ads they could have been for sneakers as far as anyone knew. So unless their goal was to have an entire country go WTF??? I'd say they were a failure. And to replace them with a ripoff of the "Mac VS PC" commercials is just sad. It'll just make them look a day late,a dollar short,and unable to do anything but rip off the Mac. Just sad. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV

Re:People would have been happier? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052501)

nice for a company to be branded pointless in peoples' minds

Re:People would have been happier? (4, Insightful)

Drinking Bleach (975757) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052661)

And Microsoft has never been bad in marketing.

There's been a few disasters in Microsoft marketing in the past, but their track record is usually rather successful. These short series of ads were a failure, I've heard one person ask me "Is that supposed to be their rebuttal against Apple?", and she uses Windows!

Well, they're trying to get their "Windows Mojave" thing to succeed.... but I admit, I don't really see how they can repair damages of Windows Vista purely in marketing.

I enjoyed them! (5, Interesting)

Solokron (198043) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051953)

I for one actually enjoyed those ads! To see those two together in a commercial was uncanny.

Re:I enjoyed them! (5, Insightful)

sleeponthemic (1253494) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052129)

Yeah, I agree. Atleast, I enjoyed the second one. Not as an ad though.. more as an interesting short. I can't really fathom how the intention could be anything more than that given the way they were made/scripted.

Re:I enjoyed them! (2, Insightful)

Bohabo (1273432) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052207)

I'm rather disappointed by this news. The first ad had me scratching my head, but I thought the second one was rather funny and I was interested to see where, if anywhere, they were going to go with it. They sucked as advertisements, and I know for damn sure they weren't going to have me wiping my Debian install any time soon, but none the less, I enjoyed watching them.

Re:I enjoyed them! (1)

tubapro12 (896596) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052527)

Yeah, I thought the second one was a great parody of how Microsoft can lead to family turmoil.</wtf>

Re:I enjoyed them! (4, Insightful)

EdZ (755139) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052151)

Same here. They were pretty funny, if almost completely unrelated to windows. Maybe it's just my love of absurd humour.

Re:I enjoyed them! (1)

ramul (1103299) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052493)

Agreed. It was a good watch for curiosity's sake, I like seeing companies try to be hip (and fail).

Re:I enjoyed them! (2, Funny)

JasterBobaMereel (1102861) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052555)

Fairly amusing and quite a good advert for Seinfeld... what do you mean they were an advert for Microsoft?!

 

Re:I enjoyed them! (0, Flamebait)

kaos07 (1113443) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052577)

Is this the new way to farm karma on Slashdot? Pretend that you not only sat through a relatively long Microsoft commercial, but actually liked it?

Re:I enjoyed them! (2, Interesting)

hal9000(jr) (316943) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052629)

Gasp, you mean expressing an opinion that runs counter to the majority of /. audience can get me karma? Crap, I can write a bot to do that. Let me see, Microsoft Good. Linux Bad. DRM good, RMS bad.

I thought the ads were very funny. They didn't have a message, which is probably why they were pulled, but yeah, I sat through both twice because I missed some jokes from my own laughter.

Re:I enjoyed them! (1)

that IT girl (864406) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052651)

I did too, actually. If for nothing else, to show that they can be creative, too. Although really, I'm waiting for them to address all the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials that Apple has come out with. Some have been pretty harsh, but Microsoft's hardly addressed them.

I vote for a steel cage match!

The ads weren't that great. (4, Insightful)

suck_burners_rice (1258684) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051959)

Well the ad wasn't exactly imaginative. If it was supposed to compete with Apple's Mac vs. PC ads, which many people apparently find comical and true, it didn't do a very good job. They really need to come up with something better than that.

Re:The ads weren't that great. (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052247)

If it was supposed to compete with Apple's Mac vs. PC ads, which many people apparently find comical and true,

Emphasis mine.

I think that says enough.

Re:The ads weren't that great. (5, Funny)

AngryNick (891056) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052337)

Like the OS, the ad I saw was bloated with themes and disconnected ideas that never seemed to come together to be anything amazing. Maybe there was going to be an SP1 for the ad that was going to explain it all?

Sadly expected (4, Interesting)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051967)

I toldja - they shoulda gone with a real comedian. [today.com]

I was looking for them working their way back through the comedic genius of history ... perhaps W.C. Fields next. All the way back to Aristophanes.

Or, in a more famous joke:

"Vista's slow, it's fat, I can't get drivers, my network grinds to a crawl when I play an mp3! What do you call that?"

"... The Aristocrats!"

Re:Sadly expected (5, Funny)

ZarathustraDK (1291688) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052213)

Rather re-invent the joke.

Person: "Then I forced the ethernet-cable in the slot, rebooted while tearing out my nosehairs and slapping my dick at the computer in a vain attempt to feel superior...(5 minutes later)...then I did a defragmentation of the hard-drive but the damn things IS STILL TOO DAMN SLOW!".

Talent-agent: " What do you call that?"

Person: "The Vistacrats".

Re:Sadly expected (1)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052383)

Mod parent up!

Re:Sadly expected (1)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052323)

Written up [today.com] . Critiques welcomed.

Fail (-1, Troll)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051977)

Now the population can appreciate a massive failure from Microsoft that approaches the level of software engineering failure that is Windows.

(too bad, "five nines" of population won't be able to parse the above sentence)

(too bad, they also won't see the difference between "five nines" and "five ninths")

(in other words, if you are reading this and didn't already figure out WTF is it all about, YOU ARE STUPID, KILL YOURSELF!)

Re:Fail (1)

n3tcat (664243) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052223)

For everyone who hasn't already committed suicide based on the promptings of the "fail" parent, please see this [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Fail (1)

Svippy (876087) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052415)

To quote my good friend Dr. Zoidberg;

I knew that! Who said I didn't?!

Oh, I did.

Re:Fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052575)

It's the first time I hear about "five nines" and this little quote from wikipedia looks interesting:

Availability specified as a number of nines is often seen in marketing documents.

Now, tell me again why should I commit suicide? Because I don't know some marketing hype buzz words?

Re:Fail (1)

teh kurisu (701097) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052671)

Thanks... having learned my multiplication tables by rote in primary school, I was wondering what 'forty five of population' meant...

Oh, and the author needs a battering for talking about sentence parsing in a sentence with a missing definitive article.

MOST of the HUMAN population... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052385)

...does not use that form of marketing preferred calculation... you insensitive clod!

Re:Fail (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052563)

Vista was designed for five-nines reliability, but due to a specification error the decimal point was shifted.

Re:Fail (1)

phiwum (319633) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052611)

Wow. You express a lame joke with tortured English and suggest that everyone who fails to get it is too stupid to live.

Now that's how you turn defeat into victory, baby!

Just as I was getting into it! (5, Funny)

PinkyDead (862370) | more than 5 years ago | (#25051983)

Problem was that the sexual tension between those two guys was too intense - it would never have ended well.

Re:Just as I was getting into it! (2, Funny)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052065)

If someone could see the sexual tension in that, there would be fanfiction about it.

Just imagine -- yaoi-fangirl of those two. Kill it with fire. Kill it with fire!

For comparison -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLiyglcRcCA [youtube.com]

References:

1. http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Sakuya_Izayoi [wikia.com]
2. http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Hong_Meirin [wikia.com]
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbArvIqZzkI [youtube.com]

Re:Just as I was getting into it! (4, Funny)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052143)

If someone could see the sexual tension in that, there would be fanfiction about it.

Scariest application of Rule 34 ever.

Until Ballmer gets involved...

Rule 34 or Rule 35 (1)

DrYak (748999) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052355)

And if Rule 34 doesn't apply, Rule 35 will.

Just keep in mind to periodically check if someone has registered "billjerrysteve-fanfic.com".

Re:Just as I was getting into it! (1)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052283)

Actually, you were looking for This [dagobah.biz] . Click the 5th one.

Re:Just as I was getting into it! (1)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052579)

...which is obviously derived from Jojo that I have mentioned, though it was the immediate source for Touhou/Mac-vs-PC parody.

Re:Just as I was getting into it! (2, Funny)

muftak (636261) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052137)

rule 34!

George Orwell and Grammar! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25051985)

"People would have been happier if everyone loved the ads, but this was not unexpected."

That sentence makes George Orwell roll over in his grave. All that "not un-" faked vocabulary and smugness, just say "People would have been happier if everyone loved the ads, but we expected it" and get it over with!

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (1)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052133)

The proper way to say it is

"We expected the this, though we would be happier if people loved the ads".

Or if they were honest:

"We knew that our ads turned out bad, but we ran them anyway".

(May I have my own advertising company, please? I promise, I will hide my Russian accent and horrendous pronunciation by talking through text-to-speech software).

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052275)

The proper way to say it is "We expected the this, though we would be happier if people loved the ads".

Fail.

Or if they were honest: "We knew that our ads turned out bad, but we ran them anyway".

Fail. The "ads turned out badly".

(May I have my own advertising company, please? I promise, I will hide my Russian accent and horrendous pronunciation by talking through text-to-speech software).

Your crap English skills make me want to say no, but since you're so polite, I'm going to say "Yes! You can have your own advertising company!"

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (0)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052547)

the this

That's an obvious result of editing.

turned out bad

"Turned out badly" means "had negative consequences" -- it would make sense if, say, the ads caused a decline in Microsoft sales. "Turned out bad" means "something produced ended up being bad".

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (3, Funny)

chthon (580889) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052375)

Pitr, stop teasing the botnets!!

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (3, Informative)

Mantaar (1139339) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052147)

Sorry, but you're so wrong, it's hilarious. Google for double negation [google.com] and you shall see.

This has been in use for quite a while. I remember translating Cicero, and he used a lot of it, so it's at least 2000 years old.

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052171)

Citing Old usage and usage in different languages does not mean that it is proper functional English.

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052435)

Citing Old usage and usage in different languages does not mean that it is proper functional English.

Nobody said it's functional English that we're talking about. This is marketing, after all.

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052271)

"Not unexpected" isn't actually the same thing as "expected", though. The former is closer to "we saw that it could happen".

Put another way, on the scale from "unexpected", through "unsure" to "expected", the former includes everything but the left end, while the latter is only the right end.

Re:George Orwell and Grammar! (2, Interesting)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052299)

Yes, we've all read it. Orwell tells us to think of something like a not unblack dog and a not unwhite rabbit, completely missing the idea behind it that said structure never uses concrete objects. While Orwell may have had a point (but I don't think so), his own example and reasoning falls flat.

So, back to mojave then (3, Informative)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052017)

...I'm seeing those ads all over the place; I've only seen the Seinfeld ads twice, I think.

What's strange is this --didn't MS drop the ad agency that came up with the Mojave ads because they were a flop?

I guess when you've got nothing ...you've just got nothing.

Re:So, back to mojave then (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052503)

I usually get them both within the same ad block.

personally I find them both offensive. tis a shame sienfield is running so low on money.

Bill Gates looks scary old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052039)

No one wants to see that!
Where's that pose of sexy young Bill on his desk?

The ads were perfect for Vista (-1, Flamebait)

bailey86 (1049254) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052043)

The ads were like Vista.

1.Waste of money:

A vast waste of money at $300 million.
A vast waste of money at $5 billion.

Didn't do the basics

Didn't say what it was selling.
Can't copy or delete files.


It would have been better doing nothing.

Has made Microsoft look crap.
Apparently, it would have been better to stick to XP.

Soon to be replaced.

By new ads.
By Windows 7.



And by the way - for all those people who are saying about sticking with XP - and MS should go back to XP:

XP is CRAP.

If you think XP is good then try out Ubuntu - you will be blown away by how much faster it is to start with.

Re:The ads were perfect for Vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052157)

I had an old file server running XP, and for yuks I put on a spare HD and installed Ubuntu. For me, Ubuntu is slower to boot and slower when operating. Particularly the GUI responsiveness. It might seem fast to you, but probably because your XP machine was running 25 tray icons and two anti-virus programs.

Re:The ads were perfect for Vista (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052175)

Yeah, Ubuntu really blew me away:
      - Every time an update occurs, it takes more and more space on my hard disk, and the boot screen is filled with 100 versions of linux kernels.
      - It took me one week to get my wifi card to work properly with wpa, with all the incomplete/outdated documentation available. Eventually, I found, by chance, a message on a forum.
      - After a kernel update, my wifi card couldn't work anymore. My card is not an alien from another planet. It is a well-known card model.
      - So I went back to the older kernel. What happened? Nautilus didn't work anymore!
      - A certain indexation service (I forgot its name) runs regularly. Then my computer does not respond anymore. It's a modern computer (AMD64 quad-core with 3 Gb of RAM).

I am a software engineer for a living, but when I use my system, I expect it to run out-of-the-box,
I want to feel like the base customer, not the software engineer.

Re:The ads were perfect for Vista (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052401)

Ah, so you agree, it is much better than Vista.


(Damn Ubuntu fan boys always pointing out how much better they have it;-)

Re:The ads were perfect for Vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052449)

Haha! Fix it yourself asshat!

Surprise Surprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052059)

Boy, doesn't this come as a surprise to everyone!

Clearly I'm weird. (4, Interesting)

Angostura (703910) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052063)

I thought the first ad was limp, but I actually enjoyed the second one and was looking forward to more. Not that it would have made any difference to my OS-buying proclivities, but I thought they were at least interesting.

Microsoft's New Ads Revealed! (5, Funny)

CuteSteveJobs (1343851) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052107)

FADE IN

A Chair

VOICEOVER: Vista. Use it. Or Else.

FADE TO BLACK

Re:Microsoft's New Ads Revealed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052571)

http://alignmap.com/wp-content/Graphics/lampoon-dog-big.jpg [alignmap.com]

"Use Vista, or..."

Always happy to see Micro$oft fail.

I think it... (1)

berenixium (920883) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052135)

I think the alternative version where Bill does a massive fart along to his butt wriggle must have made at least some impression.

Still you gotta laugh.

Gates and Seinfeld.... (2, Insightful)

Fengpost (907072) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052141)

They are just too rich to connect with regular folks. Besides, it has nothing to do with Vista, it is just an exercise of the cilt of personality of Bill Gates.

Re:Gates and Seinfeld.... (5, Funny)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052253)

Hands up if you saw the word 'clit' first, rather than 'cult'. I have thought with all the stories about scientology on slashdot my subconscious would let me see the second word first.

Re:Gates and Seinfeld.... (1)

chthon (580889) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052363)

I thought about 'kilt'...

Bill Gates, blowing the bagpipe, in traditional Scottish clothes...

Re:Gates and Seinfeld.... (2, Funny)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052273)

it is just an exercise of the cilt

You know, at first I misread that and was extremely amused.

We win, you lose! (5, Funny)

FornaxChemica (968594) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052153)

"We made these ads because we knew you wouldn't like them. Yes, it was all planned. We made them so we could pull them. Now Vista's sales are not going to improve in any way. This is also planned. It's all part of a very clever plot in which we look like a bunch of idiots wasting time and money. Amazing! Fantastic! This is why we're number 1."

Re:We win, you lose! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052317)

Funny? Should be Insightful.

Re:We win, you lose! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052587)

Carl: What this isn't America, I can't pay for sex with change? [Aquateen ref]

Made sense to me .. (5, Funny)

Layth (1090489) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052179)

It was an advertisement about nothing.
Haven't you guys ever seen an episode of Seinfeld?

Another airhead blog (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052193)

The post is so typical of the crap on Slashdot. Who the fuck runs this blog? Valleywag? Who the fuck are they? They insist the planned move on from Seignfeld is some kind of conspiracy. Of course, they offer no evidence of that, we just have to take their world for it. Why? So they can get publicity.

Slashdot used to be a place I could turn to for a reliable collection of news.... now it's just a Linux fanboi site, foaming at the mouth for a chance to piss on Microsoft.

Re:Another airhead blog (1)

arktemplar (1060050) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052239)

Well parent is a little flame-ish, but the point he makes is correct. The link is rather biased, and does seem to be making a planned move seem like msft having failed, without providing evidence. But hey, this is the intertubez who said we have to provide evidence for what we report right ?

Re:Another airhead blog (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052289)

Maybe it is because I'm from the UK and I've grown up with Monty Python but I thought these adverts were great though pointless. If they were designed to make me laugh they did a good job. I guess some of the fanbois here can't look at them subjectively. Oh look its Bill Gates we hate him, Oh look its Seinfield, he sucks as a comedian. So in their mind these are already gonna suck, everybody said so before they aired and nobody should change their opinion for fear of being weak minded. I doubt Seinfield wrote these adverts and I don't care if he did anyway, I enjoyed them and I'd rather see more of this than the next crop of ideas from MS, at least they were lying to me telling me how great Vista is.

Re:Another airhead blog (3, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052313)

As a mostly Linux user, I don't actually give a toss about this topic anyway - in much the same way that I really didn't give a toss when IBM used a white-haired kid to advertise Linux a few years ago.

I think you'll find that the majority of Linux people on here aren't fanbois but computer techies who treat Linux as a useful tool to get stuff done in, just like any other OS.

Yes, you can't beat Linux and scripting for being able to embrace the power of a computer - but you also can't beat XP as a games platform and as a platform for knocking out training slides in Powerpoint and whilst I don't do much graphics or video editing work, there's nothing on Linux to compete with Photoshop etc. (though The GIMP does everything I need from a graphics editor).

So please don't tar us all with the same brush.

Let me correct you there... (1, Insightful)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052591)

I think you'll find that the majority of Linux people on here aren't fanbois but computer techies who treat Linux as a useful tool to get stuff done in, just like any other OS.

I'm afraid that you are projecting a bit there. At least I hope that you are projecting and not just painting it pink. [wikipedia.org]

Let us disregard for a moment that this is a topic where people ridicule Microsoft.

Take a look at the front page. The left side.
Do you see a Microsoft section? How 'bout Apple? Linux?
Now... take a look at this post's icon. Bill Gates as a Borg.
Apple and Linux meanwhile have their regular logos.

This is Slashdot.
It is a social norm to be a Linux fanboy and to a lesser extent an Apple fanboy while hating Microsoft, Bill Gates and everything they stand for.
And the best part is - management promotes such behavior.
Microsoft and Gates are evil, Apple is shiny and Linux is cute.

Its not a law (yet) but its a very good idea to keep in mind if you like posting above 0 level.
Nothing kills karma faster than going to a Apple or Linux topic and suggesting that "it ain't that great".
Sometimes, just asking is there something LIKE THAT which is talked about in the post can get you bad karma.
This is Slashdot.

Darn. I missed a chance at falling prey to ads. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052209)

Now there isn't a chance to buy the new Konqueror (tm) boots that can be worn in the shower. :(

Spooked by the commentators... tsk tsk tsk (4, Insightful)

distantbody (852269) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052215)

...I for one LIKED the ads, with its 'nothingness' agenda... Surely they would have known that this brand campaign would need TIME and COMMITMENT to have a payoff!

I'll repeat that: Surely they would have known that this brand campaign would need TIME and COMMITMENT to have a payoff! ....

Maybe at least it's not too late...

Re:Spooked by the commentators... tsk tsk tsk (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052607)

Yeah you're a real marketing genius alright, you've got it all figured out. I can see why you're working with a prestigious advertising company and not posting sarcastic bullshit remarks on Slashdot.

Go ahead and make another lame joke, I'm waiting. (Not really)

They accomplished their goal (2, Interesting)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052243)

They got people talking. The last two TWiT podcasts, for example, included long discussions of the ads. The discussion was critical of them--but the ads got Leo Laporte and his guests to spend something like 30 minutes of some of the most valuable podcast time on the...er......uhm..,pod(?) talking about them.

One of the guests, not quite seriously, did a detailed symbolic analysis of the second ad. He said the old lady represented Steve Jobs--she had been living with the family for the same amount of time since Steve came back to Apple.

Am I missing something? (5, Interesting)

MarkKB (845289) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052259)

I must be missing something. Cancelled?

Cancelled is what happens when a contract is revoked. As far as I know, Microsoft is continuing with Crispin Porter + Bogusky.

Cancelled is what happens if they were planning to make more of the same vein. I see no indication of that, but of the expectant bloggers.

Microsoft had always said [techcrunch.com] that the Bill & Seinfield ads were not a campaign unto itself, but an icebreaker, or rather, "phase one". Indeed, it would not surprise me if Microsoft's announcement was all about the new ads [nytimes.com] , and didn't mention Bill & Seinfield at all.

Me thinks Valleywag focused on what they wanted to hear, not what was actually said overall.

Re:Am I missing something? (1)

ignavus (213578) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052627)

Me thinks Valleywag focused on what they wanted to hear, not what was actually said overall.

So what you're saying is, you are going to give me a thousand dollars.

(Russell's paradox: if I don't focus on what you say but on what I want to hear, when you say people aren't focussing on what you say but on what they want to hear, does that mean I really *was* focussing on what you said?)

The announcement shoulda said... (3, Funny)

clickety6 (141178) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052303)

Microsoft says Vista is over â" In a phone call, Steve Ballmer, confirms that Microsoft is not going on with Vista, and echoes his underlings' spin that the move was planned. There is the "potential to do other things" with Windows, which Ballmer says is still "possible." He adds: "People would have been happier if everyone loved Vista, but this was not unexpected.""

Obligatory Vista Reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052321)

I hope the could have said the same about Vista ..

  "People would have been happier if everyone loved the Vista, but this was not unexpected."

Wrong topic... (0, Troll)

darinfp (907671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052347)

I read this and thought we were still talking about the US dumping it's IT waste overseas. So now we can look forward to seeing these ads on Indian television? Although I probably would pay to see a bollywood version.

So I guess this was... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052365)

a show about nothing?

Mind Bogglingly Bad (5, Insightful)

Phoenix666 (184391) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052377)

I saw the awful Gates & Seinfeld commercial last night where Gates does the Robot, and commented to my wife that Microsoft must have the lowest advertising ROI of all time. It's mind boggling that a company with that much money could do so poorly with their advertising campaigns. They can certainly afford to do better, so why don't they?

It's surprising that Crispin Porter is their agency, since they're about the highest rated in the advertising game. Perhaps it's something about Microsoft that exudes a lameness that overwhelms all else.

The Ads Sucked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052419)

When you aren't sure what an Ad is trying to sell you, there is a serious problem with the Ad.

Re:The Ads Sucked (4, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052477)

I must say this a hundred times a year.

The largest road in London (the M25 motorway that circles the entire city and has more cars on it than any other road in the UK) has a large warehouse by the side of it (Jct 27/28 if memory serves) which has, in twenty-foot-high letters:

Sericol. More than ink. Solutions.

written on it. What the hell do they sell? *Do* they in fact sell ink? Do they offer "ink solutions"? (whatever the hell they are) Do they sell printing? Do they process squid? I have no bloody idea. What if I just wanted ink? Sod it. It's easier to phone someone else.

About once a week, I'll see a building, advertisment or painted vehicle which is supposed to be drawing my attention to a company, product, or service and doesn't tell me what those products are. These are all examples that I've seen and which are complete copies of an advert, or sign on a van. Some of the product names have been changed because they were SO memorable that I can't remember the exact wording, website, logo etc.

Fred's Services Ltd. Call 0800XXXXXXX. (Services FOR WHAT? And they even paid to have a freefone number)
Adventis. www.adventis.com (I made up the name/website)
Patricks - Solutions for the modern world. (no services, no phone number, no website, nothing.)
(Funny logo) - Ring 08XXXXXXXXX for our full range of services. (no, you bloody print them on the advert, or at least give me a vague idea).

My two cents. (3, Insightful)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052443)

The commercials seem to be about nothing. We don't learn about the product. I don't get how this was suppose to be helpful to Microsoft.

I think a better idea, for a gimmick, would be, "Try Windows Vista. If you don't like it after 30 days, we'll buy you a copy of Ubuntu."

(Yes, I'm trying for humour here.)

I feel more and more than MS becomes "retired".. (1)

sw155kn1f3 (600118) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052581)

these ads were tipping point for me.. seeing how pathetic Gates was in them, I'm pretty sure now that no one at microsoft cares anymore.. neither about ads nor about developing operating systems..

I'm a loser (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25052583)

I loved the ads. I stopped fast-forwarding (while watching a DVR'ed Fringe) to watch the commercial, and it made me smile. I actually wanted to see the prequel and sequel commercials.

So what? Sue me.

Wow... (4, Insightful)

gaspyy (514539) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052599)

"Microsoft To Announce Jerry Seinfeld Ads Cancelled "

Even Digg managed to find a more appropriate headline:
"Microsoft's New Ad:Seinfeld and Gates out, Hodgman Lookalike"
linking to the NYTimes article "Echoing the Campaign of a Rival, Microsoft Aims to Redefine 'I'm a PC'"

To those who actually think the Gates/Seinfeld got canceled: the commercials played for one week each. Now in the third week and today we get the 'new' style. Do you honestly think they scrambled to get something done within a week?

I know the Slashdot crowd hates MS with a passion but don't let your hate cloud your judgement.

What these ads did for MS market share... (1)

DreadfulGrape (398188) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052659)

... shrinkage!

Seinfeld plays opposite losers (4, Funny)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 5 years ago | (#25052663)

Seinfeld is an actor who built his reputation on a sitcom in which the other characters were, for the most part, losers. He then appears in an advert intended to remind people of this sitcom, in which the other character is William Gates III.

The symbolism seems sufficiently obvious. But it leaves me with a major set of questions. How did Steve Jobs manage to bribe the ad agency to come up with the idea? How did they manage to get Microsoft to fall for it? Does the Jobs reality distortion field really extend that far?

I guess, since a lot of creative ad people are still Mac fanboys, the first part might have been easy. But the second part must have been the pitch from hell. Perhaps it only worked because the Gates mansion is so vast that Gates has never found the TV room and so never seen the programme.

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