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T-Mobile Launches £2 Per Day Mobile Broadband

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the is-voip-alright? dept.

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Mark.J writes "ISPreview reports that T-Mobile UK has launched an interesting range of new off-the-shelf Mobile Broadband products that do not require customers to sign-up under a long-term contract. The pay-as-you-go (PAYG) style products cost from only £2 per day for 'unlimited' access (3GB Fair Usage Policy applies). To access T-Mobile pre-pay Mobile Broadband, customers simply need to purchase a USB (Modem) Stick 110, which includes a memory card, for just £49.99 and plug it into a laptop to access their favourite websites. Credit can be topped up direct from the laptop and customers are able to select whichever package suits them at the time." For American readers, that's about $3.66 right now -- plus shipping yourself to the UK.

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The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Informative)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091435)

Assuming you check your webmail once a day on your phone, the daily rate will run you 60lbs a month.

The only package that really makes any sense is the 30 day plan:

30 Day
For customers that will use mobile broadband regularly but do not want to commit to a year-long contract, Mobile Broadband 30 Day is the option. Mobile Broadband for thirty days offers unlimited broadband access for only £20.

Still, you're living in the UK, so it's not all wine and roses.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (5, Funny)

Computershack (1143409) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091459)

Still, you're living in the UK, so it's not all wine and roses.

Could be worse. I could be living in the USA where the next 300 years taxes my family will be paying will go straight into the pockets of the fat cat investment banks.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0, Troll)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091665)

I'll console myself by watching YouTube and not having to incriminate myself by turning over encryption keys for no reason.

By the time those are illegal here I imagine the UK will require the Implants.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (3, Funny)

Tim Browse (9263) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091759)

You lucky bastards. Here in the UK we dream of YouTube not being illegal and being able to watch it ourselves!

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0, Troll)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091967)

Here in the UK we dream of YouTube not being illegal and being able to watch it ourselves!

Judging from the number of surveillance cameras I saw last time I was in the UK, you are all going to be on YouTube.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Funny)

gbjbaanb (229885) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092019)

those surveillance cameras are entirely there solely to provide the next generation with episodes of Police Camera Action to keep them docile. Nothing to do with checking up on us or keeping us safe.

Except of course, the ones on the roads, they're just there to raise revenue.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091461)

This sounds more like an aircard deal, not for broadband on the phone. I pay $70/month now for my (s-l-o-w) verizon aircard, if T-mobile brought this deal to the US I'd sure try it.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091479)

I meant the monthly rate, of course. Much better deal.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091477)

Wine and roses? In the US it's all cheap beer and dandelions :) I now understand the difference in the cost of living in Lodon..!

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Funny)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091501)

In the US it's all cheap beer and

Depends what part -- where I live it's all moonshine and lilacs.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091491)

If I'm only going to use it twice a month, the daily rate is clearly better value for me than the monthly rate. If you use the daily rate and end up paying more than the monthly rate then yes, you are dumb and should switch to the monthly rate. £2 a day doesn't sound all that bad at all, provided they can actually provide decent speeds.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091585)

Naturally, but that's how almost the entire cell industry works. You can get overchanged a couple of times a month for features you rarely use (and get heinously shafted if you end up using them frequently), or you can get overcharged by more once per month for unlimited-use features. See text message plans - $10/mo for unlimited, or 10c each (or whatever). Both are stupidly expensive for what you get, but it's quite obvious that after 100 texts you'd be foolish not to switch off the per-message plan.

That said, £2 ($4) for a day of internet isn't too bad, especially considering that you'll probably pay more than that for a few hours at Starbucks.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Insightful)

digitalchinky (650880) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091843)

$4 per day with a 3 gigabyte cap per month. I'm not sure which part of the world you live in where you are ok with throwing away $100 USD per month for internet on your phone - in real world terms it costs the network provider a tiny fraction of that to support you - so this is a crazy amount of money for such a small return.

In Asia I pay a little over $30 USD per month for unlimited data on my phone (3.5g) I run bittorrent on my N95 and regularly fill up the 8 gigabyte memory stick. Starbucks has free internet in this part of the world.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091979)

In Asia I pay a little over $30 USD per month for unlimited data on my phone (3.5g) I run bittorrent on my N95 and regularly fill up the 8 gigabyte memory stick. Starbucks has free internet in this part of the world.

Yes, but you have to live in Asia. See, there's always a tradeoff.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092117)

$4 per day with a 3 gigabyte cap per month. I'm not sure which part of the world you live in where you are ok with throwing away $100 USD per month for internet on your phone

I'm not sure what part of the world you live in where you would pay a daily rate for 30 days when a monthly plan at a third the price is available.

Or you could go with Orange, who has £5/month mobile data, but you give up 3G speeds (GPRS only, last time I used it).

Keeping in mind the general high cost of goods and services in the UK relative to Asia and the United States, not to mention the unusually low cost of Internet services in Asia, their $55/month 3G isn't bad at all. Not everywhere can match the blissful data paradise of Asia and Scandinavia.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

Adam Hazzlebank (970369) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092145)

$4 per day with a 3 gigabyte cap per month. I'm not sure which part of the world you live in where you are ok with throwing away $100 USD per month for internet on your phone - in real world terms it costs the network provider a tiny fraction of that to support you - so this is a crazy amount of money for such a small return.

In Asia I pay a little over $30 USD per month for unlimited data on my phone (3.5g) I run bittorrent on my N95 and regularly fill up the 8 gigabyte memory stick. Starbucks has free internet in this part of the world.

This is a rip off even in the UK, I don't know how it got on the front page of slashdot (yea, I must be new here). You can get "unlimited" mobile data for 10GBP a month here (3G) with O2 on pay and go.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

SenseiLeNoir (699164) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092379)

speeds on tmobile uk are pretty decent and their bandwidth is prettygood.

It has HSDPA (3.5g) with speeds reaching 7.2Mbps this year (last year was 3.6mbps) next year, they hope to take it to 10mpbs, and by 2011 to 20mbps.

You dont pay extra for 3g....

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (4, Insightful)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091493)

Yes, but it's absolutely fantastic if you travel frequently to the UK for short stints. Paying £7 for a week's worth of fairly generous 3G data access, or £2/day, or any other tiers they may have is a great option for those of us where this is the case. This is especially true of corporate accounts that have disabled international data roaming in the downturn, leaving overseas cell and data usage to a tedious reimbursement system (designed to drive people mad before actually cutting any checks/cheques).

At £2 a day, it can come out of the per diem and no one will miss it enough to file for reimbursement.

For vacation travelers, they've got Internet access without being nickel-and-dimed with usage charges based on kB.

I'm not aware of anything competitive with this in the US, or in most European countries, for that matter--usually I've just seen monthly unlimited plans (for cheap enough prices that it's worth paying, even if you're just there for a week, but still).

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (2, Interesting)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091991)

Seriously, the daily rate sounds good. I find that I don't really need broadband access to my mobile every single day. This way, I can pay (a lot) for what I use.

I wouldn't mind hourly metering, to be honest. Not at home, mind you, but on the road, sure.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092067)

With hourly metering, you get into the zone uselessness--the administrative costs go up, the transaction costs skyrocket, and the price can't possibly get much better than £2. Anything below 50p/hour is not realistically conceivable and it just doesn't make sense, since there's no real savings to speak of.

Where there is hourly access, it's been my experience that the cost is usually a few Euros/pounds/$5US and up. Partly profiteering, admittedly, so they could lower prices to compete with T-Mobile. But T-Mo has effectively priced that service out of the market, which ends up working well.

Most people get quite reasonable daily access, in part made possible (i.e., subsidized) by people like you who might only use an hour or two, but who are willing to shell out an extra pound for the convenience. Nobody gets hosed. It's pretty close to win-win.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

quarterbuck (1268694) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092149)

There is nothing competitive in Europe?
You clearly have'nt looked hard enough. I've been traveling Europe and the easiest way to get internet without going through the complicated identification requirements is to get a mobile internet connection. In Vodafone and Orange have similar services in UK and portugal. Spain has Yoigo, Orange etc. France has the same operators, but I am not sure they'll let you use it on a day-to-day basis

In India Reliance/Airtel will let you dial-up for a month for something like $10. (whats that 6 euros? )

this is for travelers (2, Informative)

jipn4 (1367823) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091515)

This is a good deal for travelers and occasional users; the alternatives are roaming or WiFi hotspots, both of which are much more expensive. If you use it more frequently than a few times a month, you can get much cheaper subscriptions.

I'd love to have this deal available in the US. Right now, I need a monthly subscription even though most of the time I just use WiFi at work and at home.

Re:this is for travelers (1)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092197)

This is a good deal for travelers and occasional users; the alternatives are roaming or WiFi hotspots, both of which are much more expensive.

Really? i suppose it depends where you are, in london i see countless free wifi, and if that fails theres always unsecured or WEP about.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

I confirm I'm not a (720413) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091521)

...but if you're checking your email every day you won't be going for the GBP 2 per day option, you'll go for the GBP 20 per month option. I can see the 2 quid a day option being useful for frequent business trips; use regular land-line ADSL for regular use, and buy 6 quid's worth of mobile broadband for that trip to London.

...and 20 quid a month for 3GB? I'm paying about that ($50 NZ) for 1GB (that's 1GB per month). Damn Vodafone NZ.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (3, Informative)

commanderfoxtrot (115784) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091651)

Orange have had a better deal for years.

£5 per month for offpeak internet, then £1 per day if you use it onpeak.

My broadband was out of action for two weeks, so for £10 additional cost, I was able to work over my phone. (Normal Nokia N70, via bluetooth). 3G is more than fast enough.

No limits: I did 3GB in a fortnight.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

Adam Hazzlebank (970369) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092159)

O2 have a better plan, 10GBP a month flat rate for mobile internet on pay and go.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

blackest_k (761565) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091603)

your missing the point, it's fair to say most people who want broadband have it at home it's fairly cheap too.

Occasionally you want broadband elsewhere and this is quite a good deal but T-mobile tends to limit service in terms of ports and content. for example youtube is blocked by default till you demonstrate you are over 18. as are other social networking sites (but not slashdot).

Some might think its to stop users using too much bandwidth but its to protect the children.

To be honest 3 offer better rates and less restrictions e.g a pay as you go usb modem is the same price and £10 would get you a gb for a month or £15 for 3gb which is probably more useful. (E.g. on holiday for a week or two) Like home would give data on sister networks provided your within range and covers a fair number of countries.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091661)

I think you're missing the point.

"Unlimited internet access" is not for the casual user. The casual user who wants to check email while on the go doesn't need 3Gb of data per day. They need a few kilobytes of packets on a sporadic basis. Per-packet plans can help these users just fine.

It is business users and heavy users who need unlimited access. And if these users need this kind of access at all, they need it all the time. Having a daily rate, even a weekly rate, makes very little sense since these users will be requiring the service all the time.

But then again, these are PAYG plans. These users will most likely already be signed up to a long-term contract plan.

So if there is any point that I'm missing, it's the point of having this kind of plan in the first place.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#25092129)

Per packet is on the way out. Too many users have been burnt by ridiculously high invoices because they didn't realize how much a visit to a normal web page costs when your traffic is billed in dollars per megabyte.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

PReDiToR (687141) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091807)

Call me daft, but doesn't Orange PAYG still have the "pay £1 for 24 hours (max, ends at midnight) unlimited access @ 384kbps?

I have been using that for years. It actually did say "unlimited".

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091899)

it's nothing new. vodafone payg is capped at 1 ukp per day, o2 do a 20 ukp/month unlimited plan; just get the sim and put in your 3g modem

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25092053)

Assuming you check your webmail once a day on your phone, the daily rate will run you 60lbs a month.

Thats some pretty heavy data...! lbs aren't £s...

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

quarterbuck (1268694) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092125)

The T mobile plan is expensive and certainly not the first.
In Spain Yoigo offers daily dial-up at 1.5 Euros a day (while Euro trades at 1.5 to the dollar, a pound is worth 1.7 ). I am actually using that to post right now. The speed sucks (Yoigos, that is, no idea about Tmobile) so I have virtually unlimited bandwidth - there is no way I am going to hit the maximum download limit
The pleasant surprise is that the Huwaei E220 modem that the gave me is supported on ubuntu. All I had to do was run wvdialconf and it started working.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (1)

Adam Hazzlebank (970369) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092133)

Assuming you check your webmail once a day on your phone, the daily rate will run you 60lbs a month.

The only package that really makes any sense is the 30 day plan:

30 Day For customers that will use mobile broadband regularly but do not want to commit to a year-long contract, Mobile Broadband 30 Day is the option. Mobile Broadband for thirty days offers unlimited broadband access for only £20.

Still, you're living in the UK, so it's not all wine and roses.

This is a rip off... O2 offer "unlimited" data and wifi for 10GBP a month on Pay and Go ("excessive usage" limit applies. 3 Mobile do mobile broadband at 10GBP for 1 Gig of transfer a month. 2GBP a day seems insane to me.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#25092151)

I subscribed to Three Mobile Broadband for £15 a month. 18-month contract and 5Gb limit. This is cheap compared to the others but go over the 5Gb and it will cost you 10pence a megabyte, or £100 a gigabyte. Once you go over, even accidentally, they will let the figure mount until it reaches 750Mb (£75). It is a rip off really, but not unexpected from the greedy mobile carriers.

Re:The daily rate is outrageously expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#25092205)

Why do these scheming thieves insist that you have to charge double if a contract is not involved? What a joke.

The second that a Cell Phone company, offering solid service with rich features, opens with better prices and no contracts, is the day everyone in that region breaks their existing contracts and never looks back. That will be one rich company, and so long as they continue a high level of service, they have no reason for demanding a contract, their customers will not jump ship.

JUST WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!! (-1, Redundant)

pieisgood (841871) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091471)

HOW DID /. KNOW!?

Good for occasional use but modem too expensive (4, Interesting)

IAmAI (961807) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091475)

I think it's aimed at occasional users. I like the idea that I can pay a couple of quid and use when I'm travelling occasionally. However, what puts me off is the outrageously expensive USB stick you need to get [t-mobile.co.uk] . It claims to be a 'memory stick' as a well as a modem but it is really a microSD card adapter and it does not appear to come with a card. I would not pay more £20 for such a device.

Re:Good for occasional use but modem too expensive (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091505)

Can you buy a 3G radio card for £20?

Re:Good for occasional use but modem too expensive (2, Informative)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091713)

For an HSPDA modem that's not bad. The price is dropping fast but £20? I bet the chips in there cost that. It comes free if you get a contract.

There are laptops with HSPDA built in coming out and if you have one of those you won't even need to pay that.

Re:Good for occasional use but modem too expensive (1)

maglor_83 (856254) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091801)

It's HSDPA, not HSPDA. Anybody know if this card is HSUPA as well? That would make it an even better deal.

The £20/month deal is better (1)

damburger (981828) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091483)

Because any self respecting nerd would use the Internet more than 10 days out of a month

Re:The £20/month deal is better (1)

GuldKalle (1065310) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091593)

But any self respecting nerd also has wired internet at home. This is great if you need mobile internet now and then due to traveling, but would rather use your home line at home because of greater speeds (3G usually lands you 2-4 Mbit/s, at least here in Denmark), or greater flexibility (e.g. getting your net from ethernet instead of USB)

Re:The £20/month deal is better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091677)

Agreed, any self respecting nerd doesn't leave the basement for 10 days a month.

Re:The £20/month deal is better (2, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091723)

Exactly. I have one (on a better deal IMO) and use it only when on holiday.. it plugs into the eeepc just fine.

Compared to hotel internet/wifi it's dirt cheap.. I don't need it when at home though.

Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (3, Interesting)

IAmAI (961807) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091485)

I'd want to use the USB model with my Eee PC which has the standard Xandros OS installed. I wonder if it will work?

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091639)

No idea. T-Mobile's website doesn't even say which versions of Windows it's compatible with let alone mentioning Macs or Linux

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (3, Informative)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091735)

Probably. These dongles pretty much all pretend to be serial modems and you just need to do some mucking around with AT commands and run pppd.

Some of them need some hackery (eg. the one I have needs a kick to switch from storage mode to serial mode) but you won't be the first to try it so there will be a HOWTO somewhere.

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (2, Interesting)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091855)

Probably. These dongles pretty much all pretend to be serial modems and you just need to do some mucking around with AT commands and run pppd.

Some of them need some hackery (eg. the one I have needs a kick to switch from storage mode to serial mode) but you won't be the first to try it so there will be a HOWTO somewhere.

Not necessarily. I've worked on one of these dongles and on Windows it's mostly used as an NDIS device. Now the one I worked on uses the USB CDC Ethernet class and USB CDC Serial Ports - either it could act like a modem using the serial port or it could connect as an Ethernet device. The ethernet mode is preferred because you don't have the overhead of PPP headers, but it would still work as a dialup device using just the serial port. Now on Linux it will work by default in dialup mode, and with a bit of fiddling around with AT commands it will work in ethernet mode too - there's an AT command that makes the Ethernet device connect and support for the CDC Ethernet class is built into modern kernels.

However that means it needs quite complex Windows drivers, since Windows does not ship with drivers for CDC Ethernet. If I were making a Windows native device I'd uses make it an RNDIS [microsoft.com] device. That way you could skip the Windows driver, which is something that most companies screw up. But that means that it won't work with Linux. That said, there's a RNDIS driver for Linux now too

http://www.jooz.net/rndis/ [jooz.net]

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (1)

lilo_booter (649045) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091773)

Don't know about T Mobile, but three.co.uk have a 49 quid modem with PAYG and it works fine on Ubuntu (little bit of googling will reveal all).

I think the three deal is better anyway...

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (1)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092039)

Yes, Xandros Linux on the Eee PC has an (Asus branded) application that interfaces with most Huawei dongles. I had it working for a week - works better than on Windows XP with the Huawei-bundled software, believe it or not.

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (1)

tukang (1209392) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092043)

I'd want to use the USB model with my Eee PC which has the standard Xandros OS installed. I wonder if it will work?

I'm on debian and use wvdial [wikipedia.org] to connect via a 3g usb modem I suspect it would also work for this.

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25092049)

Yes. My Vodafone mobile connect HSPA USB Stick (E172) just works. I didnâ(TM)t have to configure or do anything. Once I plugged it in, an "Asus Mobile Phone Tool" applet popped up. I clicked connect and after a second or two I was connected. I am based in the UK and own an ASUS eeepc 901 (Linux).

~michael
www.BSDqed.com

Re:Will the dongle work with my Eee PC? (1)

quarterbuck (1268694) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092169)

I know for a fact that Huwaei E220 works with the kernel included in Ubuntu Hardy heron (2.6.24?)
Run Wvdialconf, and then run wvdial (or run a ppp connection manually) - and you are connected. Googling will bring up tons of troubleshooting tips too.

Orange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091531)

Orange provide a similar service for £1/day on their pay as you go service, though they specify it's not to be used with a personal computer (though they have no real way of telling if you use a user agent program). The limit per day is 20MB.

I've used it with my E61 and PuTTy on many occasion, and because I don't use it every day it's still cheaper than a contract.

yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091535)

For short term use, Orange has had £1/day, £5/week for longer than I can remember. All you need is a Bluetooth capable 'phone which acts as a modem, and that's pretty much ubiquitous outside of the USA (unless you buy a crippled iPhone, of course).

What is broadband in this context? (2, Interesting)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091541)

What definition of broadband is being used here?

Re:What is broadband in this context? (3, Interesting)

thermian (1267986) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091605)

What definition of broadband is being used here?

I'd take a stab at 'Outrageously priced broadband' myself. It sounds ok for business people who may need access to the tubes at various times whilst on the move. Until this the only way to get mobile broadband via a dongle was to get either a monthly subscription or a pay as you go in which you bought blocks of Gb then had 30 days to use it or lose it. Neither appeals to me.

I may get this and keep it in my laptop bag to use if I find myself in need of internets access but unable to find any, but never for routine use.

Re:What is broadband in this context? (1)

mr_matticus (928346) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092161)

Or you could just get a SIM card for your phone, load up the data package and add it to the prepaid SIM, and tether. I imagine you can find an appropriate 3G phone for less than £50, if you don't want to take out your voice service SIM.

Vodafone in Spain (3, Interesting)

jackd (64557) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091559)

Using a similar service from Vodafone here in Spain, where I'm staying for a couple of months. 59 Euros per month, unlimited usage, no contract. Just showed my drivers license, and purchased the Vodafone USB HSDPA/3G modem stick and they activated my subscription in the store. Works amazingly well, able to reach download speeds of 1.5 mbit, and coverage almost anywhere.

What I found particularly interesting, was how much bandwidth you use with just "minimal" use, ie. having it plugged in all day while working for emails, using Web sites and various company Web apps. So far, in 20 days this month, I've used 1.2 GB of data. A lot more than I would have guessed. .. and nope, no movie or music downloads.

Re:Vodafone in Spain - details please? (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091795)

Having a house out there, in the middle of nowehere without even a landline, this is just the sort of thing I've been waiting for. Can you tell me the name of the service and what the price of the modem stick is? Thanks

Re:Vodafone in Spain - details please? (1)

jackd (64557) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091869)

Check out the Vodafone.es site. "Internet Prepago" Got the Modem USB K3520 for I think 70 Euro, and then just purchased the plan "1 month" for 59 Euro. They have plans for 300 MB, 1 GB etc, if you're not a heavy user. I purchased this in a Vodafone store in Spain.

It does GPRS, 3G and HDSPA, so as long as there's Vodafone GSM coverage, you should be able to get an Internet connection, but the GPRS is dead-slow.

Re:Vodafone in Spain - details please? (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092195)

muchas gracias!

I've been using my Nokia phone with a data "bono" - 1GB for 60 euro. As said, it's surprising how quickly it goes. Just loading the BBC homepage is 250kb.

Re:Vodafone in Spain (1, Insightful)

sowth (748135) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091965)

So far, in 20 days this month, I've used 1.2 GB of data. A lot more than I would have guessed.

This is because nearly all websites waste tonnes of bandwidth with "Web 2.0" Ajax / Javascript crap. I am stuck on dialup, and it takes forever to load just about anything these days. Even if it is just a page with a few lines of text. Today's "web programmers" suxxors!

Expensive (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091561)

Here in finland you get usb 3G modem and unlimited traffic @ 384kbps for 9,80euros /month

Re:Expensive (2, Informative)

rml1997 (929311) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091741)

You can get a similar deal here for around 10/15 pounds a month from most operators. The difference here is you are paying for a single day's usage.

Re:Expensive (1, Interesting)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091847)

You can get a similar deal here for around 10/15 pounds a month from most operators. The difference here is you are paying for a single day's usage.

Where exactly is "here"?

Re:Expensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091941)

...and in sweden you get 'up to' 7.2Mbps for 99sek/month (10.35euro or 15$)

19 times faster.

Re:Expensive (1)

dastrike (458983) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091989)

Speed: The "up to" 7.2 Mbit/s is really "up to" as that speed can only be achieved in bursts. If you are lucky, you'll see 3.6 Mbit/s continuous speed at best.

Price: I cannot see any mobile operator here in Sweden that offers "7.2" Mbit/s for merely 99 SEK/month, the 99 SEK/month I see are only 384 kbit/s. The 7.2 Mbit/s ones are in the ballpark of 199 SEK/month ($30 USD; €21 EUR).

Re:Expensive (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092109)

Isn't that with a contract? It needs to be compared like-for-like. A cheap service that doesn't fit the need would cost more over time. If you're talking about a contract, then that serves a different use than without contract.

The price without contract and pay by the day is absolutely ideal for someone that only needs service occasionally. I'd love to pay that amount when my main internet service is down. It doesn't happen as much as one day a month, but when it's down, I need to get internet service going so I can conduct business, print shipping labels and so on. I am almost never traveling or do business outside the home or shop, so £2 without a contract is actually going to be cheaper than 10 with a contract.

Vodafone Egypt (3, Interesting)

johndmartiniii (1213700) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091579)

We've had something like this in Egypt for a while now, probably in response to the limited availability of broadband internet through DSL at one time. Vodafone Egypt does a 3G service for mobile devices and you can buy both USB and PC card adapters. The problem is similar though, the hardware is prohibitively expensive--equivalent to 500USD--and the service isn't really intended to be used regularly. It costs 1LE per MB tranfser (about 0.20USD) or you can buy a plan which includes up to 5 GB transfer per month for about 500LE (100USD). Kind of on the expensive side in the end. There are several other providers here now doing similar things, but their prices are almost exactly the same across the board.

PS - Vodafone Egypt (1)

johndmartiniii (1213700) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091591)

I forgot to mention that it often happens that when you sign up for this service, you will receive a huge bill for the first month for overage, which you may or may not have actually used. This has been a kind of common gripe from users here.

Re:PS - Vodafone Egypt (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091769)

Then again with those kinds of plans at least the underuse carries over.. with my DSL provider I've currently got 8.5GB of carry over and it's going up by about 2GB a month - should really think about reducing my plan...

"For Just £49.99"? (1)

Kryptikmo (1256514) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091581)

This seems like a terribly 'advertisy' to discuss the added cost of an antenna/modem. In fact the whole summary sounds like a press release. Is this just copy and paste, or are we merely allowing marketers to post stories now?

Incidently, I won't be signing up. Last time I tried to change the credit card which I use to pay for top-ups, I was told that I would have to speak to someone personally. And that this would cost me 25p for a support call. On principle, I refuse to pay t-mobile for calling them to pay them. Instead, I will be switching to another provider, just as soon as my current credit runs out.

Re:"For Just £49.99"? (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091815)

I'd suggest switching to a provider that lets you create virtual card numbers, so if they ever pull this again you can simply cancel the "card".

When I would use it (1)

shawn443 (882648) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091595)

Prove to the client that the Internet is not down. Please lets upgrade the blinking blue box.

"Unlimited" T+Cs (1)

Bazman (4849) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091621)

"If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much"

Is anyone on /. going to sign up to something so vague?

Re:"Unlimited" T+Cs (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091781)

"If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much"

Is anyone on /. going to sign up to something so vague?

While I would definitely nail them for the 'unlimited' lie....

Absolutely, When your other options are getting suddenly cut off when you hit your limit, or getting charged overage rates fit to turn your hair white, yea id love to see them turn my 10mb line into a 1/2mb line or hell even 1/4.

Its still more than sufficient for me to surf the net grab email, use IM. Hell you can get your WoW fix on about 50kbps, Yes thats right a 56k modem. (though updates would be a bitch). Seems like the best option to me.

Keep in mind wording that vague won't hold up in a court, contracted terms must be specific to hold up in a court, thats why you typically need a legal degree to understand most contracts. I'm betting their actual ToS include a much more detailed explanation of exactly how they restrict you than a simple marketing foot note would have.

Considering costs in Australia that's not bad (1)

AbRASiON (589899) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091633)

3gb a day is more than enough for me, if that was about half the cost and 2/3 the bandwidth it'd seriously be worth considering to replace my standard ADSL internet connection.

It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (5, Informative)

splodus (655932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091637)

I can put up with all the 'only £1.99 a day!' and 'from just £49.99' style marketing speak. It's jarring, but at least it's not dishonest.

However I am absolutely sick of hearing 'Unlimited usage! (fair use policy applies equal to 3Gb of data in any 28 day period subject to change)

I'm happy to pay for a 3Gb per month limit. I'd be delighted with an unlimited usage package. But I am fed up with providers advertising 'unlimited', when it is is clearly, unequivocally, NOT unlimited!

I'd urge any UK readers that agree to generate a gentle trickle of complaints to the Advertising Standards Agency [asa.org.uk] and the Office of Communications [ofcom.org.uk] .

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091693)

I was just about to post something similar. I can't believe this tactic has been allowed to continue.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (2, Informative)

splodus (655932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091839)

Before anyone claims that T mobile say no such thing;

September Offers [t-mobile.co.uk]

It says "UNLIMITED* internet access with no run-on rates"

Further down there's a link "* Subject to fair use"

Following the link lists 15 different tariffs with their various terms and conditions. There's quite a lot of small print there...

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (1)

djsmiley (752149) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091871)

I'm betting they would define unlimited as it supports all protocols and allows access to all sites, as apposed to accessing the internet via an iPhone, which doesn't (appently - according to various sources, dont have one myself) allow _ALL_ websites to work?

Oh, and as geeks we read "Unlimited bandwidth" when all it actually says is "Unlimited!". They prey on our presumptions, but then again we shouldn't be so happy to believe.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092083)

No, they say unlimited. They don't say unlimited sites, or unlimited protocols, they simply state, without any qualification, unlimited. If you mean that only certain things are unlimited, then you need to spell them out. That's just the way the English langauge works. There are limits. Their statement is false. They are liars.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092223)

I'm betting they would define unlimited as it supports all protocols and allows access to all sites, as apposed to accessing the internet via an iPhone, which doesn't (appently - according to various sources, dont have one myself) allow _ALL_ websites to work?

I don't know about T-Mobile but I do know that I support a bunch of people who travel all over the world and basically, as soon as you leave the comfort of your own broadband connection, all bets regarding what works are off.

I've seen hotels and mobile telcos blocking ports, using VPN "helpers" which don't help at all, blocking VPN use outright - even if the service they're providing is aimed squarely at businesses - all sorts of silly things. I'm just waiting for the day that the hotel's "internet" connection is "port 80 with an invisible proxy so you can't even run other protocols over the port".

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (2, Interesting)

lattyware (934246) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091877)

Interestingly, Sky actually don't do this, if you check their pages, it says Unlimeted* - and it actually has *No Fair Usage Policy Applies at the bototm of the page. That said, you have to be within their network to get that deal. (I, for one, am not.) That said, they are about the only ISP that doesn't. It's criminal.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (2, Funny)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092243)

Sky spelt 'unlimeted' wrong btw, you should inform them.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (0, Troll)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 4 years ago | (#25092277)

Its a service for Britons. unlimeted makes sense.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091971)

It is unlimited, but after 3GB your access is throttled to GPRS speeds. Of course technically nothing is unlimited, the day only has 24 hours and bandwidth isn't infinite either. The point is that you can go online for a day and only pay a fixed price, without overage fees and without being cut off after a certain amount of traffic.

Re:It can't be both UNLIMITED and 3Gb! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25091999)

In reality it depends on what happens when you exceed the 3GB limit. Are you simply throttled down to a slow speed? Disconnected entirely? Or are you charged a per/GB additional fee?

The devil is in the details, and many of these mobile broadband providers are kinda anticipating you exceed the data allowance, so they can cream off a nice profit by charging extra fees. The more honest outfits simply throttle or block you entirely.

But for any of this to be fair, you need to be able to see live updates on your total bandwidth used so far, and there should be a method of warning you if you come close to exceeding. Sadly, I don't think this is in place, partly because it would add expense to the mobile phone operator's outlay, but also because they like the ambiguity because of the aforesaid ability to cream off a nice little profit from people who exceed (and many, many will). It's bizarre that in the 21st century companies operate in this shyster fashion.

Nobody said unlimited... (5, Informative)

Manip (656104) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091711)

If you actually check T-Mobile's site instead of reading the article you'll find no use of the word "unlimited" anywhere on the pages.

In fact next to each plan it lists "3GB fair use amount - without any run-on rates."

In fact the only reference I can find to "unlimited" broadband is on ISP Review.

Re:Nobody said unlimited... (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091821)

So I doubt it's technically possible to download 3GB in a single day, but for doing so over the air, that seems like an extremely good price to pay.

though I'd rather pay that per-byte price on any amount I download:-)

Re:Nobody said unlimited... (2, Informative)

splodus (655932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091825)

I was looking at this one;

September Offers [t-mobile.co.uk]

It says "UNLIMITED* internet access with no run-on rates"

Further down there's a link "* Subject to fair use"

Following the link lists 15 different tariffs with their various terms and conditions. It's not immediately obvious which applies to the one you were just looking at.

Which site were you looking at? Was it the UK one?

Re:Nobody said unlimited... (1)

splodus (655932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091975)

Ah I think I see - if you go through the special offers route you seem to see the 'Unlimited' word bandied around

If you go through the various option screens you see 'fair use policy applies'

When you get to the order page itself it says '3Gb fair use amount - "

So I guess T mobile deserve credit for at least making it a lot clearer at the order stage than most.

But I still think 'Unlimited!' needs to be removed from *all* advertising because it's just not true!

Way cheaper than New Zealand (1)

Mistakill (965922) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091783)

Very cheap compared to New Zealand http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobile-data/3g-broadband-plans.jsp [vodafone.co.nz] Broadband Pro plan will cost you $69.95 NZD (48 USD or 24.21 UK pound) a month on a 24 month contract, with a 3GB cap per month

Price + Shipping = Escape! (1)

centuren (106470) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091817)

For American readers, that's about $3.66 right now -- plus shipping yourself to the UK.

CLEARLY worth the price, considering the benefits of leaving the US. ;)

Re:Price + Shipping = Escape! (1)

Bazman (4849) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092025)

Hey! Our banks are f**king up as much as your banks! Besides, after the next set of elections you might have Obama and we'll have David Cameron...

 

End of wired internets possible? (1)

damburger (981828) | more than 5 years ago | (#25091925)

The UK is lagging behind on wired broadband infrastructure, but its phone infrastructure is pretty decent. At some point could the country go truly wireless?

3G - it ain't "broadband" (1)

Richard W.M. Jones (591125) | more than 5 years ago | (#25092011)

Funnily enough I was sitting in a busy part of North London yesterday with 4 bars of 3G connection, trying to browse two sites, BBC news [bbc.co.uk] and Slashdot [slashdot.org] . The performance was terrible - extremely slow page loading, total drop-outs and random disconnects from the server. In no way can this be compared to ADSL/broadband.

Rich.

Re:3G - it ain't "broadband" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#25092313)

Funnily enough I was sitting in a busy part of North London yesterday with 4 bars of 3G connection, trying to browse two sites, BBC news [bbc.co.uk] and Slashdot [slashdot.org] . The performance was terrible - extremely slow page loading, total drop-outs and random disconnects from the server. In no way can this be compared to ADSL/broadband.

Rich.

Probably because in London, the 3g networks are very congested - especially in the financial centre.
You would probably gain better data thoroughput by 'falling back' to a 2g data connection simply due to the fewer people using it

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