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Pandora Console Ready For Pre-Orders

kdawson posted about 6 years ago | from the thinking-outside-pandora's-box dept.

Handhelds 309

Croakyvoice writes "Finally, months after the official announcement, 3,000 lucky people can now pre-order Pandora, possibly the world's fastest handheld console. It boasts a processor capable of up to 900 MHZ, PowerVR 3D graphics, a large 800x480 LCD touchscreen, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, USB, dual SD card slots, TV out, dual analogue and digital controls, a clamshell DS Lite-style shape, and a 43-button mini keyboard. The console already boasts an amazing amount of ready-for-release software such as Ubuntu and many full-speed emulators for systems such as Snes, Amiga, Megadrive, and many more that are not publicly announced yet. The console is as powerful as the original Xbox and on a par with the Nintendo Wii. Those interested should visit OpenPandora.Org. For the full history of Pandora from inception until the present, check out the Pandora Homebrew Site."

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What part of this advertisement is news??? (3, Insightful)

lecithin (745575) | about 6 years ago | (#25215821)

It boasts a processor capable of up to 900 MHZ,

It is 'possibly' the world's fastest console.

It "boasts" an amazing amount of ready-for-release software such as Ubuntu and many full-speed emulators

The console is as powerful as the original Xbox and on a par with the Nintendo Wii.

All this, and we are lucky to pre-order???

Lisa: They can't seriously expect us to swallow that tripe.
Skinner: Now as a special treat courtesy of our friends at the Meat
Council, please help yourself to this tripe.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25215851)

It sounds like an advertizement, but it really is news. This handheld console has been developed in an insane short amount of time.

It totally blows away the alternative open source handheld, the GP2x. The people that made this looked at all the problems people had with the GP2x and improved on that, all this for a very reasonable price.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25215863)

If two years count as an insane short amount of time..

Atlantis Game Boy (1, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25215911)

If two years count as an insane short amount of time..

Game Informer (July 1996) and Total (issues 53 and 54) reported that Nintendo was working on a handheld video game system called Atlantis. In 2001, it was finally sold under the name Game Boy Advance.

Re:Atlantis Game Boy (3, Interesting)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216271)

Yeah, because showing me that some consoles can take a longer time proves that this one took an insane short time. Very logical. By that standard I guess developing a video game in 5 years is an insane short time just because DNF is taking more than twice that.

Re:Atlantis Game Boy (1, Troll)

Goaway (82658) | about 6 years ago | (#25216571)

So, Nintendo takes plenty of time to develop rock-solid machines that are massively popular, while Pandora...

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (2, Informative)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216041)

Though the real successor of the GP2x is the Wiz:
http://gp2x.co.uk/ [gp2x.co.uk]

And the difference is smaller between those. I'd take the Pandora over the Wiz though, except for form factor maybe. The resolution of the Pandora is the best part :)

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (5, Informative)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | about 6 years ago | (#25216349)

There's also price. Of course pandora has many more features, perhaps a comparison is in order. @#$!@#$ slashdot doesn't support tables, so this is the best I could do :

Pandora

Pandora [openpandora.org]
ARM Cortex-A8 600MHz CPU
128M ram
3D opengl ES 2.0 acceleration
800x480 4.3" touchscreen LCD
Wifi
Keyboard
dual SDHC card (both expansion and storage)
Internal battery and USB charger
$329.99 / £199.99 (Inc VAT) / E249.99 (Inc VAT)

GP2x WIZ

Wiz [gp2x.co.uk]
533Mhz ARM CPU
64M ram
3D opengl acceleration
OLED Touch Screen 2.8" 320x200
No wifi (BUT easy to add because of USB host)
No keyboard (BUT again, easy to add because of USB host)
single SD card (both expansion and storage, 99% sure SDHC card)
Internal battery and USB charger (thank God ! compared to GP2X F-200 this is heaven)

US$ 179.90 (~124.32 EUR) [play-asia.com]

PSP

PSP [about.com]
PSP cpu 333Mhz
32M ram (64M for the psp slim)
3D acceleration (?)
480x272 LCD screen (great screen imho)
Wifi
MS pro duo expansion (expensive, only storage)
Internal battery and USB charger
Probably USB host capability but not useable

US$ 213.99 (179 euro) [amazon.com]

Surprisingly of all these devices it's the PSP that has the largest library of emulators (even a "somewhat playable" n64 emu, something the pandora devs think impossible (read the gp2x forums ... well ... euhm tomorrow should be better, right ?)

As an ebook reader the PSP blows the socks of the WIZ though, even if just because of larger screen, and it is also larger than the pandora, so I wonder.

This list is limited to devices with actual useable gaming controls. The iphone/ipod touch and the nokia n810 are obvious competitors, but lack (decent) gaming controls. Actually the n810 is kinda nice, I ought to try one.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (5, Interesting)

electrictroy (912290) | about 6 years ago | (#25216357)

A "console" is something you put under or next-to your TV, along with your VCR, DVR, and Stereo.

A handheld device is more properly termed a "portable", not a console.

Also this news story reads like an advertisement. Remember the Atari Lynx? It was the most-powerful portable of its time (late 80s), and was supposed to kill-off the boring black-and-white Gameboy, because the Lynx had full-color with stereo sound and an ultra-fast processor. Doesn't that just want to make you go "oooo"?

The Lynx flopped.

Don't be surprised if Pandora does too. It takes more than being "the most powerful" to succeed in gaming. In fact, the #1 consoles of the past were actually NOT the most powerful. Atari 2600 was woefully slow; NES was inferior to Sega Master System. PS1 was only 32-bit but still trumped the faster N64. PS2 was weaker than Xbox or Cube, but still came out #1.

I'm sure the Nintendo DS portable will still be #1 for several more years.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (3, Informative)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216435)

I'm sure the Nintendo DS portable will still be #1 for several more years.

I'm sure it will, it has brilliant games! That wouldn't stop the Pandora from being a success at all, though, they're not competing that much. The DS isn't particularly good with emus thanks to a small screen, can't really emu anything more then a Genesis, has a damn slow browser which also suffers from the screen, is hard to code for, doesn't work as a Portable Media Player, and so on and so forth. If the Pandora makes the buyers happy, and the coders of the community keep coding and making all kinds of nice things, then it will be successful even with 15000 sales.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (-1)

poetmatt (793785) | about 6 years ago | (#25216467)

You are naming systems, yet the company that did better in each comparison, made far better games.

That has nothing to do with the processing power.

However, the resolution difference with pandora is huge enough that this is like enabling all gamers to play in HD without buying a HD tv. Ask anyone who games in HD, and they'll tell ya, it makes a big diff. Eye candy, power means nada.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (5, Insightful)

Goaway (82658) | about 6 years ago | (#25216585)

PS1 was only 32-bit but still trumped the faster N64.

"32-bit" is a completely meaningless term in this context, just so you know.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216031)

The "ready for pre-orders"-part.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216121)

That is his point. "finally ready for pre-orders" is not newsworthy. They could be taking pre-orders years in advance of the actual release.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

somersault (912633) | about 6 years ago | (#25216405)

The fact that the site is down shows that a lot of other people do in fact find this interesting and newsworthy. They say they will make the second batch in 2009, so it sounds like the first batch could be out by the end of 2008. They have already designed all the hardware, they just need some money up-front to build the 3000 units.

I ordered mine last night anyway (I had signed up to the pre-order mailing list) :)

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

pongo000 (97357) | about 6 years ago | (#25216333)

And the price for luck? Only a measly USD329!

Preach on, my antioxidant friend, preach on!

(Not a day goes by that I rue for the /. days of old...I might be a 5-digit denizen, but I seem to remember actually looking forward to reading /....)

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216447)

Blame the US economy, my numeric friend. It's a reasonable price in Europe.

Re:What part of this advertisement is news??? (1)

vslashg (209560) | about 6 years ago | (#25216623)

(Not a day goes by that I rue for the /. days of old...I might be a 5-digit denizen, but I seem to remember actually looking forward to reading /....)

What, as opposed to being forced to as you are today?

Broken Link (2, Informative)

mikesum (840054) | about 6 years ago | (#25215835)

What I love is the fact that the world map has a broken link for North America, Japan/Korea, and Australia. I got the emailed newsletter that contains the working direct link and a link to the world map. It's still not fixed after 14 hours. You'd think they'd actually test it sometime today.

Limited audience (0)

clickclickdrone (964164) | about 6 years ago | (#25215849)

This will appeal to geeks and hackers but 99.9% of the rest of the world will never, ever get this on their radar. This is so like another console from a few years back (Gizmondo?) that looked like an old-skool gamers dream machine with GPS and whatever else thrown in the mix but ultimately it died a death as it really wasn't of interest to the mass market. Also, its flexibility is its downfall - Joe public won't be able to work out what it is for - it's too much of an 'everything plus the kitchen sink' device.

Compare to the iPhone (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25215891)

This is so like another console from a few years back (Gizmondo?) that looked like an old-skool gamers dream machine with GPS and whatever else thrown in the mix but ultimately it died a death as it really wasn't of interest to the mass market.

Gizmondo had a lockout chip to keep out homebrewers, which wasn't cracked until after the system was discontinued. Pandora, on the other hand, is designed without a lockout chip on purpose.

Also, its flexibility is its downfall - Joe public won't be able to work out what it is for - it's too much of an 'everything plus the kitchen sink' device.

So are the iPod Touch and the model with a built-in phone, but that's selling like hotcakes.

Re:Compare to the iPhone (1)

cgenman (325138) | about 6 years ago | (#25215943)

I believe he's thinking of the GP32 [wikipedia.org] or the GP2x Wiz [wikipedia.org] . They have been an open gaming platform since their inception, and have achieved moderate popularity in Asia.

Re:Compare to the iPhone (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216085)

But those aren't failures and are products of the same area/range. He do mean Gizmondo it seems, which is shit. I saw Gizmondo and DS and PSP in the same stores when released, but who on earth would get the Gizmondo and why?

Re:Compare to the iPhone (1)

MightyYar (622222) | about 6 years ago | (#25216089)

So are the iPod Touch and the model with a built-in phone, but that's selling like hotcakes.

I think you are going to learn about the value of advertising. :)

Re:Compare to the iPhone (0)

powerspike (729889) | about 6 years ago | (#25216437)

So are the iPod Touch and the model with a built-in phone, but that's selling like hotcakes.

No, it's not. The Touch and Iphone, come with a small baseline of features, if you want more, you have to go and get what you want, therefore the average user is going to have a semi decent idea of what everything else. But if they had 200 Applications installed by default, how the hell would they know what is what. there is a very big difference, if you something that large, your going to throw it into the to hard basket by default.

Re:Limited audience (2, Insightful)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25215955)

You realise that it pretty much beats the Nokia N800 and such at what they do, right? I mean, it runs Ubuntu and has a 43-key keyboard!

Re:Limited audience (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216087)

Nokia tablets run a Debian derivative called maemo. So, basically the same as running Ubuntu.

Re:Limited audience (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216149)

Right, well I'd rather run Ubuntu on my desktop PC than Maemo. Just to say that I'd consider Ubuntu more potent than a Linux distro made for an embedded device. Besides a Debian derivative can be anything these days, anyone makes Debian derivatives for embedded devices, with highly varying results.

Also, I'd say the Pandora's keyboard looks better for keyboardy stuff like typing than the N800's. Also, it's more powerful, the N800 only has an OMAP 2.

Re:Limited audience (2, Insightful)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216095)

Now if Google implemented their selection of SDL or whatever on Android .. ;D

Would be nice with a more standard platform for emulators and such on the Linux devices instead of multiple ones (I guess they are very easy to port to android anyway though.)

Re:Limited audience (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216075)

No, it's not like Gizmondo, because that was closed. The GP32, GP2x, GP2x Wiz and Pandora are well known brands in certain areas and have plenty of software for them.

They are open and korean, and Nintendo have got very shitty coverage in Korea and the company responsive for selling Nintendo products there have been shit. I don't think these consoles are entirely unknown in Korea, just because you haven't heard of them or know any software for them don't make the case the same for everyone else.

Gizmondo looked like shit, had no games and was expensive. Gee, I wonder why that failed!?! Sounded like such an awesome project!

The Pandora can't fail since it's a platform with few native games but which rely on homebrew and emulators, all of which are there already and will continue to improve.

If you want a portable with emulators and lots of homebrew without the troubles all of the GP32/GP2x/GP2x Wiz/Pandora are excellent products.

No, it won't sell in tens of millions, but that's not its goal either. As long as it sell to the people who are intrested it's all good, right? I doubt they see themself as the next Nintendo, they just want to have fun.

Re:Limited audience (2, Informative)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216165)

Leave the Pandora out of the mix, it's not Korean at all. It's made in Europe and the "headquarters" are in Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

Re:Limited audience (5, Interesting)

robthebloke (1308483) | about 6 years ago | (#25216225)

There were far more reasons as to why the Gizmondo failed......

http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/feature/gizmondo/flow_chart.gif [gamerevolution.com]

The biggest difference between the Gizmondo and the Pandora is that the latter is intended for home-brew only, and is certainly not aimed as a PSP killer. With that in mind, it's hard to see how the Pandora can fail, bring down a large electronics company, destroy a Ferrari Enzo, and lose millions of investors cash in quite the same way as the Gizmondo managed......

Re:Limited audience (5, Insightful)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216325)

This will appeal to geeks and hackers but 99.9% of the rest of the world will never, ever get this on their radar.

But that is exactly it's market. It's a product for a community that already exists and that is already buying it, so it will be a success. Beating nintendo is not the goal, making a great device with features that a few thousand people want is enough of a success, from my point of view. I'm unsure whether it will make enough money to compensate the amount of time spent designing it, but not everything is about the money. I'm sure they actually love the device themselves, say.

It is up to us nerds.... (1)

ImNotAtWork (1375933) | about 6 years ago | (#25215867)

To set the trend. If we show up at airports, lunch spots, on campus and start playing on this platform some one is bound to look over our shoulder. After a certain amount of buzz it's time to get on TV and also get in stores.

Re:It is up to us nerds.... (0, Troll)

Splab (574204) | about 6 years ago | (#25215919)

Yeah because pimple faced fat smelly guys are the defacto trendsetters.

Re:It is up to us nerds.... (3, Funny)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216001)

Yeah, because everybody who's into technology is a fat ugly smelly loserly git. That's easily explained by the fact that you have to sell your coolness to the devil to know how to use vi.

Re:It is up to us nerds.... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216103)

I have no acne and I'm not fat.

I may not be a trendsetter or look good, but neither of these two are true.

And yeah, in the technology area we kind of are.

Re:It is up to us nerds.... (1)

Ren Hoak (1217024) | about 6 years ago | (#25216389)

You have a fine career ahead of you. But it isn't in marketing.

My thumbs hurt just by looking at it. (4, Insightful)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | about 6 years ago | (#25215869)

It's neat, but it doesn't seem to be very ergonomically designed.

Re:My thumbs hurt just by looking at it. (2, Insightful)

Racemaniac (1099281) | about 6 years ago | (#25216013)

do remember it's only a bit larger than a DS, so i think it should be okay.

Re:My thumbs hurt just by looking at it. (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216111)

The DS isn't either, I hate the boxy and sharp design, it just feels bad in your hands. The DS should have been molded over the gamecube controller :D

Oh shit (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25215877)

Oh shit, it made it on Slashdot. The 3,000 units are sooo gone.

Re:Oh shit (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about 6 years ago | (#25216113)

You kidding? Th 3000 units were probably gone within one hour of the stores offering it. And currently they're nt going to sell it anyway because at least the German store is completely slashdotted.

Of course that's of little concern to me because I signed up for their newsletter so I'd receive notification when it becomes available. Worked really well and now I'm out 300 Euros for a Pandora, some gear and a donation to a Pandora Free Software fund.

Re:Oh shit (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216283)

I asked Craig (Rothwell, the maker) an hour ago and he said he'd reckon they would be gone some time this afternoon.

Re:Oh shit (1)

somersault (912633) | about 6 years ago | (#25216451)

When I checked my mail I think it was about 6 hours after they sent out the notification, but I still got a unit :)

No GPS.. (1)

RichiH (749257) | about 6 years ago | (#25215899)

Why oh why can't a device that looks like a potential competitor for a N810 have GPS built-in? Image how could it would be to flip open your browsing/ssh/gaming gadget at any time and have larg-ish screen with good resolution & GPS. /me sobs

Re:No GPS.. (1)

White Flame (1074973) | about 6 years ago | (#25215921)

It does support USB host mode and SDIO for peripherals, though. (and Bluetooth, which is also on the N8xx series)

The N810 only has a Mini-SD slot (so no dangly bits even if there were mini SDIO cards) and AFAIR only acts as a USB client.

Re:No GPS.. (1)

RichiH (749257) | about 6 years ago | (#25215947)

I don't want dangly bits on my gear. And the SD GPS & storage cards needs special support and are, reportedly, rather bad.

Re:No GPS.. (3, Informative)

ricegf (1059658) | about 6 years ago | (#25216127)

Nope, N810 can also act as a (non-powered) USB host, and also has Bluetooth (I'm quite confident, since it talks to my Bluetooth keyboard pretty darned well :-).

N810 has a single rather than dual SDHC slot (the N800 had dual slots, not sure why they dropped that in the N810), slide-out keyboard (rather than clamshell design), and same resolution screen, but lacks the gaming controls and DSP.

N810 runs Maemo Linux (with GTK+ graphics), though I believe a port of Ubuntu is available or in-work, and is about the same price. Looks about the same size.

Biggest difference to me (other than N810 being a third generation device shipping in volume) - N810 has an official Palm Garnet emulator that runs all those games I bought in my Treo days. It'd be a Good Thing is Access would port that to Pandora as well.

They look pretty similar to me. N810 topped Amazon's Electronics best seller list a while back. If Pandora is well-implemented and can get some marketing behind it, it could do well. I hope so - Choice Is Good.

due to cost. (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25215941)

Why oh why can't a device that looks like a potential competitor for a N810 have GPS built-in?

It would raise the bill of materials unacceptably. But it does have two USB ports and two SD slots that could probably be used for SDIO. Enthusiasts will find which GPS dongles work best with Pandora.

Re:No GPS.. (2, Insightful)

Racemaniac (1099281) | about 6 years ago | (#25215969)

this is a completely open source project, is there so far any good open source gps program?
i've seen a few nice programs that work with bitmap maps from various sites, but those maps become huge, so it's useless on a large scale.

if a good opensource gps program does exist, porting it to the pandora, and attaching a gps receiver shouldn't be so hard

Re:No GPS.. (1)

RichiH (749257) | about 6 years ago | (#25216101)

Well, there is OSM which is a good start. Also, you could put Google Earth on it (if there is enough RAM). It might not be useful this very second, but I suspect they will not change the hardware between the first and later batches, so we are stuck with no GPS for a year or two..

Re:No GPS.. (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216015)

I would call you a Whaaambulance from my Pandora but unfortunately it doesn't have GSM either. Nor a camera. Nor a motion sensor.

Guess what, there's only so much you can cram into a 250 euro DS-sized device, and I for one am happy it comes with WiFi, Bluetooth and two SD slots.

Re:No GPS.. (1)

RichiH (749257) | about 6 years ago | (#25216117)

> I would call you a Whaaambulance

Let's pretend I fall for your ad hominem attack so I can answer the valid points you make.

> unfortunately it doesn't have GSM either.

It has bluetooth. I own a cell phone. The N810 does not have GSM, either. Unfortunately, Nokia have very good & logical reasons not to 'fix' this any time soon, so do these people.

> Nor a camera.

Might be useful, at some point. Depending on your target group, a bit more or a bit less so than GPS.

> Nor a motion sensor.

_That_ is a huge pity & an oversight which can not really be explained. Those things are tiny, dirt-cheap & just look at the Wiimote for its potential.

Re:No GPS.. (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216309)

Regarding the motion sensor I seem to recall that there are plans in the future for an official 50 euro add on module comprising among other things a motion sensor. Note that all of these things have been discussed at length with the makers over the years on the forums of gp32x.com, including the motion sensor question, numerous times, so you might as well want to search the forums when they go back up to know why they didn't put it in. I seem to recall it had to do with space.

Re:No GPS.. (1)

RichiH (749257) | about 6 years ago | (#25216417)

Thanks.

Re:No GPS.. (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216125)

Yeah, I don't have much need for a GPS either (It's not like I leave my appartment very often anyway), and those who have probably already have one or can get it in another device (say in their car or phone.)

Why would all devices have to have a GPS?

Re:No GPS.. (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216343)

Why would all devices have to have a GPS?

Obviously so you can know where you're at while on your Pandora console without having to pull your cell phone out! Same reason why VCRs displayed the time, although it caused a wave of missed afternoon appointments by misleading people into thinking it was always <blink>12:00</blink>.

What about... (1)

Lord Duran (834815) | about 6 years ago | (#25215901)

battery life? Such a powerful instrument is bound to either require laptop-style batteries, or have a really, really short battery life.

Re:What about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25215939)

It runs on an ARM cortex A8, so it doesn't actually require that much power, apparently it gets 8 hours with all of the devices (wifi, bluetooth, etc) switched on. It's about the same size as the original Nintendo DS, so it's quite portable.

Re:What about... (3, Informative)

James_Duncan8181 (588316) | about 6 years ago | (#25215961)

Battery life is listed as "10+ hours". Thank ARM's non-crack-filled view on how power efficient a chip can be.

Re:What about... (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25215967)

It has a 4000 mAh (at this point shouldn't we just say 4 Ah?) battery that's supposed to give a 10 hours battery life.

Re:What about... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216141)

At what voltage is that? How much battery time would say 10 2700 mAH R6 NiMH batteries add?

I'm quite sure someone will built their own battery package for better battery life.

Battery life is awesome, apparently. (4, Insightful)

torpor (458) | about 6 years ago | (#25215959)

Battery life is said to be between 10 to 12 hours of normal usage ..

I ordered one. Can't wait to get it, as its got a lot of power and will make a superlative machine for developing music/synthesis/effects application .. plus the odd game or two, of course, lol ..

For those saying "It will Never Take Off", so? As long as Craig&Co. can make a tidy profit selling it as a niche item, it will be awesome anyway - the hardware itself is superlative, and the development scene for this console is like nothing else - even if they only sell a few thousand, thats at least going to give a few thousand people an awesome system to play with.

Don't forget: its totally open. So it won't "die" as long as there are people willing to get one and code for it, for their own purposes. Gizmondo and all that: dead coz Joe Blow Hacker can't code for it, easily. Pandora: Very, very easy to write code for it, so even if there are no commercial entities getting behind it as a mainstream console, it will still be highly useful to those who bought it ..

Re:Battery life is awesome, apparently. (0, Troll)

Lumpy (12016) | about 6 years ago | (#25216241)

I ordered a used OqO tablet off ebay that has better specs and will run any linux or windows or even OSX on it. I can run all those emulators as well as play PC games on it. Oh and it cost me $200.00 and looks new.

So why should I buy a pandora? It offers nothing but battery life as an advantage to a 4 year old surplus Tablet pc.

Honestly these things are a neat concept, but after you see the price and specs you walk away from it.

I have the last round of new hotness the GPX handheld console... It sits in it's packaging looks brand new and does nothing. It's a bitch to program for because the SDK was crap and there was almost no releases for it except for a couple of emulators.

I'm all for old skool gaming... but most of the games for the Genesis sucked, Most of the games for the SNES sucked, and those 25 games that did not suck are not the reason to buy a game system.

Re:Battery life is awesome, apparently. (1)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216353)

It should be lighter, smaller, and have faster 3d. Not to mention proper gaming controls and a keyboard.
If you hate retro games, it's your loss, but there are/will be a lot more emulatores than those, like GBA and PS1, somewhat unique homebrew games, ports and a (too) few commercial ones.

Re:Battery life is awesome, apparently. (2)

nickspoon (1070240) | about 6 years ago | (#25216455)

I have the last round of new hotness the GPX handheld console... It sits in it's packaging looks brand new and does nothing. It's a bitch to program for because the SDK was crap and there was almost no releases for it except for a couple of emulators.

That is an out-and-out lie. The GP2X File Archive [gp2x.de] contains hundreds of homebrew games and emulators, along with other applications. I myself have used the SDK, and it is very simple provided you know SDL. The major advantage of it is that the SDK is free and open-source; the device runs Linux so cross-compiling is very easy.

Do some research before making ridiculous claims.

on par with nintendo Wii? (2, Insightful)

Z80a (971949) | about 6 years ago | (#25215971)

do these guys have the official nintendo devkit or something to affirm that one?
because you know, you cant compare diferent cpus just by the clock or cache size, that to not mention the video chips that are probably radically diferent.

Re:on par with nintendo Wii? (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216023)

Whoever claimed it was comparable with the Wii in power needs to lay off the space brownies. I however believe that the Pandora's GPU allows the Pandora do be on par with the GameCube regarding 3D graphics.

Re:on par with nintendo Wii? (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216169)

But the Wii isn't much more than an overclocked Gamecube. It do have the benefits of "enough" vram though, the Gamecube had a little to little.

You don't have to have that powerful GPUs for 640x480, especially with no AA or AF.

Re:on par with nintendo Wii? (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 6 years ago | (#25216161)

But we all know the Wii is pretty low end, and I wouldn't be surprised if the general specs of the GPU in the Wii is well known either. Sure GeForce 3-era graphics was good back then, that don't mean a small chip can deliver similar performance today.

I always thought slashdotted was a myth (4, Interesting)

ledow (319597) | about 6 years ago | (#25216029)

I always thought that a modern slashdot'ting was a myth due to a poor, database-heavy configuration with insufficient oomph behind the servers. Then some git links to gp32x.com which had one of my GP2X ports as the second item on the front page (outside of the top visible screen). So my two-links-deep, petty news item on something vaguely related to the story (a quick recompile for GP2X) makes my traffic for the month of October (i.e. one day) pass my total traffic for the month of September (30 days) within a matter of hours.

God knows what temperature gp32x.com is hitting right now. Strangely, though, my adsense hits/clicks read normal. I *knew* I should have released my other port so that I was in the No.1 spot on that site when Slashdot hit...

Re:I always thought slashdotted was a myth (1)

4D6963 (933028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216213)

Might also have to do with the fact that anyone on gp32x has been refresh happy ever since yesterday. Gp32x/OpenPandora.org (I think they're on the same server) pretty much "Slashdotted" itself before Slashdot kicked in.

And another thing... (1)

mikesum (840054) | about 6 years ago | (#25216033)

There is supposed to be a paypal option. See here it is. [tinypic.com] Well let's try to checkout. Hey ! Where's the Paypal option ? [tinypic.com] Well if you REALLY don't want to take my money I'll just buy something else.

Re:And another thing... (1)

Racemaniac (1099281) | about 6 years ago | (#25216133)

the sites where you can buy it from are indeed not too professional atm -_-
once gp32x.com is up again (slashdotted atm), have a look there, these are known issues, and how to pay via paypal is explained there :)

Re:And another thing... (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | about 6 years ago | (#25216317)

At least the German store gave me PayPal, which I used to pay (mostly because I wanted to make sure my order goes through completely before all 3000 units are gone).

Yeah, but can it run apache? (1)

Buzz_Light (1017486) | about 6 years ago | (#25216035)

"Could not connect to the database: Too many connections" Looks like they are running their webserver off of one of these.

Re:Yeah, but can it run apache? (2, Funny)

ErroneousBee (611028) | about 6 years ago | (#25216177)

Its actually a Beowulf cluster of these things, powered by a bloke on a bike. This may be the first slashdotting of a human.

MHz myth yet again... (5, Funny)

evilviper (135110) | about 6 years ago | (#25216143)

It boasts a processor capable of up to 900 MHZ,

I have a radio... It's capable of more than 10 GHz.

But why would I want a handheld syslog-viewer? (3, Funny)

Shag (3737) | about 6 years ago | (#25216145)

Joking, but it actually did take me an embarrassingly long time to figure out why on earth someone would want a handheld console of all things... I think we Unix geeks had dibs on that word before gamers. :)

I was about to order one, (1)

pecosdave (536896) | about 6 years ago | (#25216155)

It's 10:45 GMT, still earlier enough and the site is Slash Dotted! Thanks guys.

Re:I was about to order one, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216207)

They're probably running the server on their handheld.

I've ordered one... (1)

MrShleee (1375995) | about 6 years ago | (#25216221)

Simply to support homebrew hardware... It can sit next to my OpenMoko and wait for software :) Remember: They plan to release a Pandora LIVE.. online networking/gaming service :)

Website down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216231)

Hope they do not code their machine, like they code their website..

"Could not connect to the database:
Too many connections"

A ConnectionPool anyone???

Why would you buy this? (4, Interesting)

Fallen Andy (795676) | about 6 years ago | (#25216265)

rather than a low end netbook? At most you save about 50 euros.

With the netbook you're getting something that will run most older emulators well, and a machine which is more usable for casual net use. I run a big stack of emulators for older consoles on an ancient Toshiba laptop (with a mere Celeron 500) with no problems. With a 1.6GHz Atom, I'd guess Project64 (N64) and ePSXe (Playstation) work well... Anyone out there tried yet?

Andy

Re:Why would you buy this? (4, Insightful)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216373)

Can you put it in your pocket? Does it play like a proper gaming controller? No? Then that's why. Personally I'll have this, the Eee and the DS, all for different uses.

Re:Why would you buy this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216383)

Because it fits in my pocket

Re:Why would you buy this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216423)

rather than a low end netbook? At most you save about 50 euros.

With the netbook you're getting something that will run most older emulators well, and a machine which is more usable for casual net use. I run a big stack of
emulators for older consoles on an ancient Toshiba laptop (with a mere Celeron 500) with no problems. With a 1.6GHz Atom, I'd guess Project64
(N64) and ePSXe (Playstation) work well...
Anyone out there tried yet?

Andy

it fits in your pocket!

Re:Why would you buy this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216493)

Because this can fold up and fit into a pocket, which no netbook can.

It is more of a followup to the Nokia n770 / n800 / n810 combined with a handheld game station.

Plus 10+ hrs battery.

Re:Why would you buy this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216545)

Ugh, the infamous netbook comparison. When you can get another UMPC that fits in your pocket for cheaper than the Pandora, call me.

Good hardware, bad hardware (3, Funny)

consonant (896763) | about 6 years ago | (#25216267)

Could not connect to the database: Too many connections

If you can make the "world's fastest console", shouldn't you host on at least a "world's somewhat resilient server"?

Sounds good... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216327)

... but does it have a camera?

Re:Sounds good... (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | about 6 years ago | (#25216619)

It's not a cell phone. Camera's are overrated.

But you can run a VNC connection to your computer and use the built in mic to run Skype. Or your favorite VOIP program. There are plenty of other free and open source ones, so you probably don't need the VNC connection.

Yes but can it run Linu- (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216371)

Oh SHI-

New toy (2, Informative)

nitrowing (887519) | about 6 years ago | (#25216415)

I bought the GP2X when it came out as a portable media player/ games machine. It sucked batteries dry at an alarming rate and has sat in my drawer unused after about the 4th set! I have an Eee900 (20Gb Linux) which I like quite a bit - it can play Urban Terror quite well, has loads for me to fiddle with (mods, software etc) and cost me about £50 more than this Pandora. So why do I want a Pandora?? Small, battery life... Anything else?

Re:New toy (1)

Perky_Goth (594327) | about 6 years ago | (#25216513)

My problem with the GP2X was the damn controller. Which is still better than what the Eee has, which is nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if the snes or ps1 emus end up being more optimized than for the Eee. I almost forgot, it has a proper 3d chip, not the Intel crap. But, other than the form factor, controls and battery life (and more memory on the Eee) there isn't much difference between the two.

Stop bashing an think for a second (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25216425)

Why would anyone buy this instead of a cheap laptop?
Why would anyone buy a cheap laptop instead of a cheap desktop? You get get something twice as powerful for half the price.

This thing just happens to be _half_ the size of an eeePC; look at the dimensions and see for yourself.

It isn't a laptop replacement, nor is it meant to be. Their is a reason the Sega Game Gear (portable gameboy competitor) sold many times better than the Sega Nomad (portable genesis/megadrive, complete with the massive cartridges), you know.

Missing option: US shipping? (1)

oDDmON oUT (231200) | about 6 years ago | (#25216499)

Saw UK, but no US. Is that a feature, a flaw, or something to work around?

Re:Missing option: US shipping? (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | about 6 years ago | (#25216573)

http://www.gbax.com/ [gbax.com]

This is by the same owner. Look at all the links for each country.

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