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84 comments

Frosty Piss (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254061)

CmdrTaco has a 2 inch penis!

Re:Frosty Piss (0, Troll)

narcberry (1328009) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254179)

Ooooh, a new MMO!
Don't tell me corporate America isn't innovative.

Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (3, Insightful)

bconway (63464) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254069)

MMOs require a significant time investment, and most people don't play more than one at a time. To grow a healthy population and to attract people away from other games, you need to offer something novel. Taking yet another Sci-Fi property (that's already been done to death) and throwing it into an MMO is a sure-fire way to fail.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254197)

Yes, that one Stargate game on the SNES really qualifies as doing this franchise to death. You know, kinda like the armchair developer tycoons that are always so quick to pronounce a game DOA before even trying it.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (2, Insightful)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256255)

But he may have a point about being able to play only one MMOG at a time, and how carefully us users are going to analyze it before we even pay a single dollar.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (1)

mweather (1089505) | more than 5 years ago | (#25257875)

You can play more than one. People don't because it costs money. That's why the Asian MMO market's free to play business model has resulted in such diversity in the genre. I play Guild Wars, a few MUDs and Eve Online. Only one of them costs me to play.

Will a pay for playing time system work better the (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#25259355)

Will a pay for playing time system work better then pay per month / 30 day blocks?

So people who don't play that much pay less and the people who are on 24/7 pay more.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (1)

Hellpop (451893) | more than 5 years ago | (#25370657)

Actually, I think they were referring to the fact that Stargate was a movie, then an SF series for 10 years, then got two spin-offs, when they talk about being beaten to death. The SNES game was an adaptation of the original movie, so it was just the beginning of "the franchise" so to speak. It was also available on the Genesis, so technically its a "16-bit" game.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (5, Insightful)

Ostracus (1354233) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254241)

"MMOs require a significant time investment, and most people don't play more than one at a time. "

Take one failing economy and add a dash of living with one's parents and suddenly people have plenty of time.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (5, Funny)

Arngautr (745196) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254249)

Indeed

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254319)

I never play online, but from the screenshots and information it seems awesome, so I'm gonna at least give it a shot. Now, maybe I'm not the kind of person they'd want to attract to make it successful, but it seems SG-1 and Atlantis have a pretty damn solid following, and many of them are like me and will want to try it.

So far I see no reason for it to fail, but then again I don't see success as overtaking WoW or something.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25256009)

but it seems SG-1 and Atlantis have a pretty damn solid following

They're just the Star Treks of this decade. Dumbed down/overly stupid technobabble so any moron can watch it and think they know something about science. The episodes are mostly 40 minutes of "OMG we're gonna die" until somebody finds some device or Carter/McKay reverses the polarity on something to save the day. 99% of the time their solution cant be used again but makes for a good "Previously on Stargate..." for when they run out of good ideas.

Dont get me wrong, I watch it and so do a lot of people I know but its mostly because its 45 minutes where you can switch off your brain and enjoy a bit of action.

At the end of the day, its Sci-Fi for non-Sci-Fi fans as shown by their decision to drop Stargate Atlantis for Stargate Universe a show designed to be more character based to appeal to a wider audience (so it'll have love triangles and an uber-brainy Weasley Crusher kind of kid in it).

Stargate is a great franchise but I dont see it working as an MMO simply because its fans/viewers are not geeky enough. The people who watch Stargate are more likely to be too busy on their facebook/myspace page to be playing an MMO like this.

Actually... (4, Informative)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255087)

Actually, there are quite a few of us praying for a good SF MMO. I don't even care much about franchise, personally, just give me something battery-, clip- or belt-fed already. That market segment is way under-represented. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against high fantasy setups either, but that market segment is already catered for.

Arguably, excessively catered for. I mean, if you look at the current MMO player base, about 99% is fantasy, and about 1% is SF or modern day. If you look at TV viewer estimates, the numbers are almost reversed. Unless someone can argue convincingly that the same people who like SF more on TV, somehow prefer high fantasy in a game, there must be a _lot_ of untapped potential market.

And if you think about it, it's not even that much competition they have in that segment. The problem of the SF genre so far was that it was half-arsely done. E.g., AO was launched as a festering pile of shit (read the Something Awful reviews, and know that they barely scratch the surface of how bad it was.) E.g., SWG had exactly one saving grace: its character development system. But otherwise an incompetent designer and an incompetent publisher ran it into the ground, and managed to turn the biggest franchise in history into a niche. I'd say "etc" at this point, but was there _anything_ else worth talking about in the SF MMO genre? I'm drawing blanks.

(Yes, there is COH/COV, and fun game it is, but it's IMHO not really SF. It's its own genre.)

Also about most people playing one game at a time, that is true, but that's only half the equation. The other half is that most people don't stay in a game for ever. Last I've seen a number, it was 6 months average for a MMO player. Then he leaves. (Of course, averages are averages. Some people barely play for a month, some hang around for 3 years, but the average is around 6 months.) You eventually have seen it all, eventually you get bored of doing the same thing repeatedly as endgame, and bugger off.

Before someone jumps in to defend it: I'm not saying it's a bad game. It's just that (A) nobody can afford to make near-infinite content, so you keep doing new things for ever, and (B) people eventually get bored of doing the same thing every day. You'd get bored even of chocolate cake if that was all you ate, day after day.

Basically the behemoth that is WoW is shedding bored players all the time, by the millions, and getting new players all the time. Same as any other MMO. And it also gets a big chunk of its old players back after a while, because they didn't find another game to their liking.

Someone could make a damn good living by just offering all the ex-WoW-ers a new home. Of course, then it would have to not suck. That's where most have failed so far.

The traditional model of doing a half-arsed effort and maybe patching it (to be even worse) later, is all but dead. WoW may not have been that original, but it took the time to polish the whole thing far beyond what anyone else had tried. (If they even tried at all, that is.) It set a new standard. Going back to a traditional half-arsed, launched-unfinished MMO, is like going from colour TV back to monochrome for a lot of us.

So making that net that catches those falling off WoW, might take a lot more money and talent than it sounds. And apparently more than your average publisher feels like risking.

But, still, at least theoretically it's possible. The "???" between "1. buy some license" and "3. profit!!!" is simply: "make a polished game, and don't shove it out the door a year too early." And I'd expect that eventually it will happen. Maybe it'll be Stargate or maybe something else, but eventually it will happen.

Re:Actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25255419)

There's one big sci-fi MMO you're missing out and that's EVE Online [eve-online.com] , though it differs significantly from the run-of-the-mill MMOs for much, much more than simply being set in a sci-fi universe and doesn't seem to be what you're looking for.

Re:Actually... (1)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255775)

There's one big sci-fi MMO you're missing out and that's EVE Online, though it differs significantly from the run-of-the-mill MMOs for much, much more than simply being set in a sci-fi universe and doesn't seem to be what you're looking for.

Duly noted and thanks for the correction. Still, you're correct, I was meaning the more traditional kind of MMO, not the space sim kind.

Re:Actually... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25255789)

EVE online is not really a scifi game. Its a set of scifi spreadsheets with a pretty interface.

Re:Actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25260577)

Yes, we all know about EVE... The problem is that we want a sci-fi MMORPG that is actually fun.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (1)

SpacePunk (17960) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256317)

In their defense, they are getting it out sooner than a Star Trek based game. I don't know if they have quite the following. When the trek based game comes out, it'll be ok for a short time, untill the trek fanboys die of old age.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (3, Insightful)

Dutch Gun (899105) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256357)

I think the key word here is *novel*. You're seeing a new flood of MMOs, because publishers and developers are salivating all over themselves, seeing how WoW is raking in more cash yearly than some third-world countries. Obviously, they want a piece of the action too. Unfortunately, the MMO is a bit of a different beast than most games.

1) The development costs are more significant. By definition, MMOs have to be very content-rich game. Moreover, you have the added technical complication of developing a server infrastructure along with your game.

2) It's much harder to innovate in terms of gameplay. Fast action in an MMO is still damn near technically impossible with today's internet. Too many users simply don't have the low latency needed to compete in a twitch game. As such, most MMOs end up doing statistical combat. Point and click on a monster, and the server rolls the dice. The other problem is world persistence - you can't dramatically alter the state of the world without impacting every other player. As such, most MMO games simply punt on this. The player can't truly alter the state of the world, and so any actions ultimately feel futile.

3) A pay-to-play model is a limiting factor. People play a fewer number of MMOs than traditional games because of the monthly fee. As such, the market space is more fiercely competitive in an already competitive industry. Gamers already playing with one game are highly unlikely to subscribe to another game. Additionally, many gamers are simply uncomfortable with the notion of paying for a game, and then *also* paying a monthly fee, and so won't be a part of the market regardless.

4) MMOs require a minimum amount of user participation in order to remain commercially viable. Unless the game develops a certain amount of traction, the servers are likely to shut down. After that, the game becomes unplayable forever. Gamers are aware of this, and so are often wary of MMOs that seem questionable.

We've already seen EA try and fail in this space. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, etc... Others have also had their share of failure: Asheron's Call 2, Auto Assault... These are not piddling startup companies or unknown properties here.

I think we're heading for a large number of MMOs released in the near future, and an almost equally large number of MMO failures and closures about a year or two from now. After that, only the largest competitors will be left, along with a small number of innovators. And by then, most publishers will be scared to death of the MMO market.

Re:Licensees and licensers: stop being stupid (1)

drsquare (530038) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256971)

Taking yet another Sci-Fi property (that's already been done to death) and throwing it into an MMO is a sure-fire way to fail.

You could say the same about WoW, taking yet another fantasy property that's already been done to death, and throwing it into an MMO.

Right... (4, Funny)

Misanthrope (49269) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254095)

"Step through the Stargate and join thousands online for a super-sized sci-fiaventure that will send you and your buddies around a galaxy dipped in liquid awesome." www.stargateworlds.com/about.html
I'm not sure I want to be dipped in liquid awesome

Right...Liquid uhhh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254161)

It sure beats your usual stuff.

Re:Right... (0)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254353)

That's a pretty lame line on their part. I guess marketing trying to prove they are "with it" when it's just a sad expression of the opposite.

Re:Right... (2, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255949)

I'd much rather be dipped in chocolate.

Re:Right... (1)

osgeek (239988) | more than 5 years ago | (#25257289)

*cough*, I call being dipped in Jessica Alba... ... just sayin' is all.

Re:Right... (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258053)

    Have you ever tried her? I thought "liquid awesome" was a strange name for a stripper, but ...

    Oh, that's probably not what they mean.

    That was an awesome weekend though. At least I got first there early (and often).

   

Re:Right... (1)

sketerpot (454020) | more than 5 years ago | (#25269469)

Maybe they mean "liquid nitrogen". That happened in a particularly weird episode of Stargate, so it's more plausible. I don't think they've found the world of liquid awesome (P5X-881) yet.

Looks like ass (3, Interesting)

DirtySouthAfrican (984664) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254101)

I realize this is beta, but this is definitely catering to a crowd that I can't identify with. I didn't expect this to be canon, but are those Ori footsoldiers with p90s? I wish whomever plays this hours of enjoyment, but it's a bit too Elder Scrolls for this die-hard SG fan. In the words of PA, it's not "for me"

Re:Looks like ass (3, Interesting)

johannesg (664142) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254343)

SG1 managed a fairly consistent look (it looked a lot like Canada, except with medieval villages ;-) ), so I'm a little surprised that none of the screenshots seem to reflect this. Maybe trees are just too boring?

Re:Looks like ass (1)

gmthor (1150907) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254901)

Here is a little hint. Maybe SG1 looks like Canada because its was made there. All the forest in SG1 is the Stanley Park near Vancouver.

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25271959)

Something tells me you are not exactly the Hint-master General, bub.

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254905)

The last thing I heard about this was specifically towards the pedestal that held the Star Gates; basically the show has limited resources and they actually have to create some of this stuff you only get the generic stone steps leading up to the Star Gate.

In a video game they just have to make new textures and other stuff which is a bit easier than fabricating something you have to move around alot. It also has something to do with the old conundrum of "Why does just about every planet look like a non-descript location on Earth". Since unless the ancients Tera-formed planets when they planted Star Gates there is sort of an issue that only part of the planets would be that similar to the earth. When I played Star Wars Galaxies it was nice that there was a fairly significant feel to the different planets rather than them all being distinctly Earth like.

Re:Looks like ass (2, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254953)

SG1 managed a fairly consistent look (it looked a lot like Canada, except with medieval villages ;-) ), so I'm a little surprised that none of the screenshots seem to reflect this. Maybe trees are just too boring?

That's a bug, not a feature. Even earth isn't anywhere near that consistent, and yet all planets in this galaxy and beyond look like Canada? There should be deserts and rain forests, great plains and high mountains, islands and reefs at the very least, if not even more exotic. So while not exactly canon I consider that a practical limitation just like convienently humans, goa'uld, jaffa, wraiths and so on all look humanoid, while the story is better than most you know it's so humans can play all the roles without CG or puppets.

Re:Looks like ass (2, Informative)

hab136 (30884) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255923)

Even earth isn't anywhere near that consistent, and yet all planets in this galaxy and beyond look like Canada? There should be deserts and rain forests, great plains and high mountains, islands and reefs at the very least, if not even more exotic.

They did have deserts and such, but there were used sparingly. The explanation given - that the Ancients settled on planets that were nice (or were terraformed to be nice), and put the stargates and villages in hospitable locales - does make a lot of sense. The exceptions are mostly where the Goa'uld moved the stargates to places for mining.

"Every planet looks like Canada" was done for cost reasons, but they did fit it in the storyline fairly well.

Re:Looks like ass (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256363)

They typically only explore a few miles from the local stargate. It would make sense to build the gate network with each end in roughly the same climate, so that travellers wouldn't experience too much of a temperature shock. Of course, there's nothing in the series to imply that they actually did this, since some endpoints come out in deserts and some in jungles...

Re:Looks like ass (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 5 years ago | (#25262329)

Well, some of the stargates were in the storyline as having been moved for various reasons, most of the ones which were in roughly the same climate would have been where the ancients originally put them.

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25257045)

Canada has desert and rainforests, actually, BC alone has both of these. Mind you, SG1 never really seemed to get there, other than perhaps the rainforest.

Re:Looks like ass (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#25267025)

Actually, most of the galaxy does look like Canada. This planet is kind of a big zoo where we've gathered all the weirdest environments we could find. Canada is where the game keepers live.

Re:Looks like ass (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258083)

    That may have something to do with the studio being in Vancouver. :) Hmmm, and I'll be about 150 miles from the studio for the next few days for work. I wonder if anyone would notice if I took off for a few hours in the company rented car. :)

    I still wonder how they shoot the desert scenes in Vancouver. ahh, the magic of CGI.

Re:Looks like ass (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258609)

I still wonder how they shoot the desert scenes in Vancouver. ahh, the magic of CGI.

It is on the coast; there might be a few sand dunes that they keep reusing.

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25268257)

SG1 managed a fairly consistent look (it looked a lot like Canada, except with medieval villages ;-) ), so I'm a little surprised that none of the screenshots seem to reflect this. Maybe trees are just too boring?

Um, pre-beta mean anything to you or are you noob to testing phases?

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254885)

The game starts out before the Ori come into the SG universe, sorry that only kinda goes to prove your point but it was bothering me.

It is definitely going to have a focus upon the die-hard SG fans but I think that it's a generic enough sci-fi genre that it will have some appeal to lots of people. They also seem to have some rather creative ideas, such as releasing new content every 6 weeks or so (including new story lines, functionality and level caps) along with bigger expansion packs.

However there are also rumors/speculation that there is going to be some sort of tie in with the upcoming SG: Universe project which might delay it to a rather large extent, which would sort of suck if it's really going to delay it rather than for some technical reason.

Re:Looks like ass (1)

Forrest Kyle (955623) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256297)

Hey, look everyone! Comic Book Guy posts on Slashdot!

Re:Looks like ass (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258125)

    I'm not sure what the screenshot is that you're mentioning (nor am I bothering to look), but from what I had seen before (months ago, when I signed up for the beta), it appeared that you could make your character as any Stargate character. Just like in the show where you'll see characters running around with enemy weapons (who doesn't intuitively know how to use a staff weapon accurately?), I'd guess that you can buy, trade, or steal pretty much anything you want.

    I gotta wonder if I can just "borrow" an Asgard ship. :) I can't imagine those little gray guys can really put up much of a fight once you're on board.

    I'm curious to see how the game will be. I'm not a huge gamer, I'm actually an adult with a job, but it may be a nice distraction from real life on occasion.

Re:Looks like ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25268313)

Ori foot soldiers with p90's? Diehard SG fan I think not.

SG1 humour (4, Interesting)

Secret Rabbit (914973) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254113)

"""
Its existence is unconvincingly denied in most videos, and in one it is confirmed but the developer insists that flamethrower gameplay is not ready to be shown to the public. He says this while a monitor behind him displays all kinds of in-game flamethrower carnage.
"""

It's nice to see that the self-ironic, etc humour that was in SG1 is alive and well among the staff that are developing the game. It gives me hope that this game will be a good one. Or at least go along some of the lines that the show did.

Re:SG1 humour (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254181)

Haha, "self-ironic". Shut up.

Re:SG1 humour (0)

notknown86 (1190215) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255141)

Pffft... the real action with Richard Dean Anderson and a flamethower was *not* on fucking Stargate.

Re:SG1 humour (1)

Secret Rabbit (914973) | more than 5 years ago | (#25259463)

You're either joking or retarded. Which is it? I can't tell from what you wrote.

You should be more worried about CHRIST than ORI (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254173)

This is what it would be like, if the majority of people were athiests.
ATHIEST KID: Mom, I'm going to go fuck a hooker.
ATHIEST MOM: Okay, son.
ATHIEST KID: Afterwards, I'm going to go smoke pot with my friends, since it's "not addictive."
ATHIEST MOM: Okay, come home soon!

The athiest kid leaves the room. The father comes home from work several minutes later.

ATHIEST DAD: Hey!
ATHIEST MOM: Hi, honey! I'm pregnant again. I guess I'll just get another abortion, since "fetuses don't count as human life."
ATHIEST DAD: Okay, get as many abortions as you want!
ATHIEST MOM: Oh, and don't go in the bedroom.
ATHIEST DAD: Why not?
ATHIEST MOM: There are two gay men fucking eachother in there.
ATHIEST DAD: Why are they here?
ATHIEST MOM: I wanted to watch them do it for awhile. They just aren't finished yet.
ATHIEST DAD: Okay, that's fine with me!

Suddenly, their neighbor runs into the house.

ATHIEST NEIGHBOR: Come quick, there's a Christian outside!
ATHIEST MOM: We'll be right there!

The athiest couple quickly put on a pair of black robes and hoods. They then exit the house, and run into the street, where a Christian is nailed to a large, wooden X. He is being burned alive. A crowd of athiests stand around him, all wearing black robes and hoods.

RANDOM ATHIEST: Damn you, Christian! We hate you! We claim to be tolerant of all religions. But we really hate your's! That's because we athiests are hypocritical like that! Die, Christian!

THE END

Scary, isn't it?

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254277)

Wait, you're a christian?

"Larry! Get the kerosene and black robes, we got another one!"

Short supply (0, Offtopic)

Quila (201335) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254383)

I guess your church ran out of tin foil hats and Thorazine.

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254385)

leave YOUR shitty 4CHAN copypasta on 4CHAN newfag

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (0, Offtopic)

fi1th (1090847) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254389)

You sir are a retarded internet christian filling rooms with deceitful knowledge and propaganda. Get your revelations outta here

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254457)

Scary, isn't it?

Not really, since everything you just posted is sensationalist fantasy and utter rubbish.

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254739)

So, in conclusion, Athiests like to party.

Praise "BOB"

Re:You should be more worried about CHRIST than OR (-1, Offtopic)

rts008 (812749) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254777)

Scary?!?!?!?

Ha!Ha!Ha!Hee!Hee!Ho!Ho!Ho!

The only thing even remotely scary about your 'bot-like' post you have been spamming /. with, is the incredulous scenario of you becoming the 'ruling power'. That would only be a very short victory, as I (or someone like me) would skillfully (and with experience from service with Uncle Sam)apply a solution to your existence with a Cranial Injection of High-Speed Lead [wikipedia.org] .

*ROFLMAO!!*

P.S. I HOPE that you appreciate this reply, as I had to fight off severe intra-rib muscle cramps from laughing to type this.

Thank you in advance for your understanding and forgiving nature.

Heh, Heh!

Never mind the atheists...or the christians, Buddha FTW!!!*tongue in cheek-meant to be funny*

Disclaimer: Yes, I am a Buddhist! (YIAAB!)

Give me Fringeworthy (1)

Rediscover (42324) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254243)

by Rich Tucholka. Pre-dates Stargate, and has more interesting effects
when ya go through a gate (like roads through space with localized
gravity and atmosphere, immediate draining of electrical batteries,
et al).

DIBS! (1)

philspear (1142299) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254421)

I get dibs on being MacGyver! Sorry, but I called it. Someone else can take the nerdy professor, I bet the alien guy is going to go quick, so someone should call that.

Did anyone else find it odd that the token black guy in that show was not only an alien, but he used what looked undeniably like... well... a spear? They could have been more insensitive about it, like giving him an afro, I guess.

Re:DIBS! (1)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254599)

Teal`C is not what I'd call a token black guy. He ensured SG1's survival in the first episode. A little bit more than token.

Re:DIBS! (1)

zrobotics (760688) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254723)

Wow. Just wow.

Re:DIBS! (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#25267043)

And every second episode after that, of course.

Re:DIBS! (2, Funny)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 5 years ago | (#25254759)

Better then $200 plastic sneakers, baggy pants, droopy t-shirt, and some cheap gold chains. (At least that is how the black guys I see at Taco Bell look like mostly.) At least when black guys were shown as wild African men they were warriors - now what the hell are they supposed to be?

I may be to white to understand but from my point of view I'll take some rippling muscles and a spear as my stereotype any day. Give whitey his light saber but Mr African Warrior man will kick his ass with nothing but a bit of stick and a dazzling smile. All black men should talk like James Earl Jones too. That guy is awesome. I don't think white guys could get away with sounding like that though. Even Darth Vader is black - if Anakin talked that way we'd all be like wtf.

Why complain if your stereotype makes you look like a stud? Or anyway that is my theory on stereotypes.

Re:DIBS! (1)

philspear (1142299) | more than 5 years ago | (#25257939)

Well, I don't think it's too much to ask that in this day and age we realize that any stereotypes based on race are inherently extremely fucking stupid. It shouldn't be a choice between stereotypes. The spear-carrying stereotype isn't positive, it's a stereotype of uncivilized. Is the only place you encounter black men Taco Bell, or are you so brain dead that's the only place you notice them?

Sorry for the venom, but your implication seems to be that black men are either "$200 plastic sneakers, baggy pants, droopy t-shirt, and some cheap gold chains," or some weird warrior man sex object thing that I really don't want to know anything about.

Re:DIBS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25261839)

+5 Racist?

Re:DIBS! (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#25267065)

"At least when black guys were shown as wild African men they were warriors - now what the hell are they supposed to be?"

Pimps. They might look stupid but they still manage to pull it off better than white guys trying to imitate the look.

Re:DIBS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254763)

Ah, So I see you watched that episode of Sealab 2021 as well.

Re:DIBS! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25254805)

You sound like a moron. Anyone who has actually knows anything about the show knows that Teal'c is the man.

I even met him randomly in a Mall, and hes just as badass as in the show.

Your also an idiot for thinking that they will have a playable O'Neal character...

There really is no shortage of ignorance on the internet.

Re:DIBS! (1)

philspear (1142299) | more than 5 years ago | (#25257849)

There really is no shortage of ignorance on the internet when it comes to my favorite scifi show.

I fixed that for you. We're not talking about, you know, something important here. In fact, we're not even discussing star-trek.

There really is no shortage of geeks overreacting to trivia on the internet.

Re:DIBS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25255007)

they did actually give him an afro wig in the one where they went back in time to the 60's.

Re:DIBS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25257009)

the token black guy is usually an idiot and either dies or makes a fool of himself imo. Teal'c is pure badassery in humanoid form.

Re:DIBS! (1)

NoName6272 (1376401) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258285)

I call Thor, even if he looks worst then ET. At least he has one of the more powerful ships at the start.

Also since history repeats, so do weapons, they just get energy generators.

~~~
NoName

Re:DIBS! (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#25258689)

I get dibs on being MacGyver! Sorry, but I called it. Someone else can take the nerdy professor, I bet the alien guy is going to go quick, so someone should call that.

Forget all of them, I call Samantha Carter so I can stare at a female behind while I'm harvesting naquadah/naquadria to craft my personal zat'nik'tel.

System Requirements (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255083)

I find their web site hard to navigate.
Any idea what their system requirements are?

Thanx,

angel'o'sphere

Re:System Requirements (2, Informative)

Kandenshi (832555) | more than 5 years ago | (#25255325)

It appears that they don't have officially released specs as of yet. Their FAQ still isn't even 100% sure what platforms will be used. -_- PC is sure of course, but other than that...

Currently the plan for Stargate Worlds is to release on the PC. However, we realize that there are MMO and Stargate fans on many platforms, and we would like to explore as many of these options as we can. Once we have confirmed which platforms will be supported we will make an announcement on this website.

There's some speculative posts on the forum about what plausible system requirements there will be. The best info I can find is on the Stargate-Worlds wiki [stargateworldswiki.com]

:

Currently the public plan is to release Stargate Worlds only on the PC. However CME have indicated that they would like to release the game for other operating systems and consoles, most likely the XBox360.[5][6][7] There are no definitive set of system requirements at this stage, and they are unlikely to be available till much closer till the release of the game. It is expected that any current middle to high end PC will be able to run the game. [8] Better hardware will result in a better graphics experience. The team is using dual 3GHz Xenon CPUs with dual cores with 4 gigs of RAM 512 Meg Nvidia GeForce 7900 GT as their development platform.[9] And while the game is currently being built for Windows XP, it will support Vista as well.[10]

At this stage, whilst the devs would like to support it, no decision has yet been made regarding dial-up.

Re:System Requirements (1)

LuxMaker (996734) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256117)

The system requirements have yet to be determined, but you can get a pretty good idea what they are if you do a little research on the Unreal Tournament 3 engine.

Re:System Requirements (1)

Dutch Gun (899105) | more than 5 years ago | (#25256231)

but you can get a pretty good idea what they are if you do a little research on the Unreal Tournament 3 engine

Well, you can perhaps get an idea of what technological features may be available, but minimum requirements is a little different. A lot of people attribute way too much of how a game looks and runs to the engine. System requirements are determined by the developer, not the engine - it's a matter of the poly, texture, and animation budgets they've allocated, and what minimum shader model they're requiring. Two different games both using the Unreal 3 engine could have *very* different runtime requirements based on this.

Game platform (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25256475)

When game producers will realize than 'freak gamers' use Linux and switch to Windows just for play ?

Re:Game platform (1)

kazade84 (1078337) | more than 5 years ago | (#25257061)

It's all about the time/cost/market share thing. Until Linux has a larger market share it's not worth the cost of developing games for Linux. Mainly though because most studios have their DX toolchain and developers without masses of Linux experience.

It's not even about the DirectX API either, it's about the IDEs, the HLSL/GLSL shader ones aswell as the C++ ones, it's about Photoshop and 3DS Max and whatever audio applications they use. Until there is a better alternative on Linux (and it has to be better, no studio is gonna change for "the same") then we are pretty fucked when it comes to commercial games for the most part. I hate the idea of developing for a single platform (not just in games, but generally).

Cross-platform games aren't that much harder to write. DirectX is a small part of any decent engine, everything is abstracted away like crazy. SDL/OpenGL/OpenAL can do pretty much anything that DX can do, in some cases even more (read geometry shaders on XP).

So basically the technology is there to write a totally cross-platform game just as easily. It's down to the toolchain and the cost of changing from what they are used to. The only thing that will force that switch is a greater non-Windows market share. Unfortunately, we are stuck in the catch-22 where 90% of the people I recommend Linux to stop listening when I tell them that they can't just go into a shop and buy a game and expect it to run. My hopes lie with Wine, once Wine is 99% compatible then the Windows specific toolchain won't matter any more.

Mac os will nice with they had good video cards a (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#25259319)

Mac os will nice with they had good video cards a good price but you need $2300 + a over priced video card update to get a good mac for gameing.

This looks retarded... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25256493)

I'm going to go play Eve now.

screenshots don't look like stargate (1)

adpowers (153922) | more than 5 years ago | (#25259379)

Most of those screenshots don't look much like Stargate at all. The look and feel of some of the city designs and terrain is all off. That's not what the forests outside Vancouver look like at all!

Stress Tests (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25260621)

I've been involved in the "stress test" for Stargate Worlds and haven't even gotten to play yet! They've got their servers up and running through October 8th now, before they launch into full-blown beta, but thus far, I've been unimpressed.

Specifically, I've got a problem (on a Vista laptop) where you get through character creation and click the "Play" button, but the game just sits there on some kind of loading screen, never entering the game. This isn't an issue for other players, necessarily, as their forums suggest that people have been able to get in and have a good time with it. I, personally, just haven't been able to!

I hope it works out, though! That, or I'll have to wait until Star Trek Online comes out... :-P

Re:Stress Tests (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#25261713)

on a Vista laptop

There's your problem. Vista's a lot better now than when it launched but it's still bleh.

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