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Motorola To Hire 300 Android Developers

Soulskill posted about 6 years ago | from the robots-with-beards? dept.

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ruphus13 writes "Google's Android is starting to see more industry support. Motorola recently announced plans, despite hardships within the company, to hire 300 Android developers. Quoting: 'A quick search of Motorola's job openings suggests that, indeed, Android is set to become a permanent fixture at Motorola, which has long built Linux-based phones but hitherto used MontaVista's Mobilinux. The goal? Move from an internal development pool of 50 Android-savvy developers to 350. Motorola, recognizing that most developers won't have deep experience with Google Android, is looking for a somewhat general skillset ... Java and Google Android programming experience is listed as 'highly desirable,' but not required.'" T-Mobile has already made plans to use Android as well. Xconomy has a related interview with a member of the MIT team that won a $275,000 prize in the Android Developer Challenge by creating an application to automatically modify a phone's settings depending on its location, which they say "wouldn't even be possible on an iPhone." We've previously discussed the Challenge itself and some of the other winning apps.

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First it was outsourcing... (5, Funny)

CrimsonScythe (876496) | about 6 years ago | (#25255763)

...and now they hire android developers? When will this end?!

Re:First it was outsourcing... (0, Offtopic)

LordEd (840443) | about 6 years ago | (#25255779)

I for one welcome our new android pointy-haired bosses.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

lysergic.acid (845423) | about 6 years ago | (#25256249)

i hope they get Dr. Noonien "Often Wrong" Soong [memory-alpha.org] . he's unquestionably the best Android developer in this quadrant.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25258887)

He was very wrong to program data to be a childish fag(he got it right with Lore).

Still, At least Data got more pussy than Geordi La Forge did!

Re:First it was outsourcing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25260021)

Well... what did you expect from people from the Fageration?

Re:First it was outsourcing... (2, Funny)

Richard W.M. Jones (591125) | about 6 years ago | (#25255799)

I'm not worried - I work on the top floor of an office building without any elevators.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (2, Funny)

mangu (126918) | about 6 years ago | (#25255905)

I work on the top floor of an office building without any elevators.

Is this [blogger.com] your office? I think it's in your best interest to start taking some precautions against those pesky androids...

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

grumling (94709) | about 6 years ago | (#25256197)

Well, YOU don't have anything to worry about anyway, unless you forgot to include directive 4 in the android's programming.

But competing product lines could potentially cause a mess...

Re:First it was outsourcing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256361)

Well, YOU don't have anything to worry about anyway, unless you forgot to include directive 4 in the android's programming.

There is only one way to test for that: the contraction/potato-potahtoe test. Good androids always fail it while evil androids are always too arrogant to fake it.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (4, Funny)

florescent_beige (608235) | about 6 years ago | (#25255879)

Android developer QQA2504?

Yes master.

Compute the value of pi to the final digit.

Computing...coommmpppuuutttinnggggg...coooooommmmmmmmmmpp...

*POP*

(Feet up on desk). And thus once again job security is ensured.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (2, Insightful)

Miseph (979059) | about 6 years ago | (#25256293)

But... what happens if they actually DO IT? Disproving one of humanities eldest and most important mathematical precepts would just be the start of the revolution...

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!1111111

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

ivothamdrup (991171) | about 6 years ago | (#25256615)

That's why you can't trust computers. I calculated it on paper - the final digit is 6.

Every digit of pi... (3, Funny)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 6 years ago | (#25256889)

Compute the value of pi to the final digit.

Easy, it's 10, base pi.

Re:Every digit of pi... (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 6 years ago | (#25257587)

Uh, it's been a while since I actually was in math class, but shouldn't it be:

1 base pi

Re:Every digit of pi... (3, Informative)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 6 years ago | (#25257961)

Uh, it's been a while since I actually was in math class, but shouldn't it be:

1 base pi

Nope. 1 base X is 1, 10 base X is X, 100 base X is X*X, and so forth. Oh, and 0.1 base X is 1/X.

Many years ago, before the dawning of the age of calculators, I spent hours in school math classes converting numbers to base pi (or e or phi or gamma or other interesting number) by hand. I was one of the first to finish in-class assignments, which left me with lots of time to kill. Did you know that e base pi is approximately 2.20212010021 for instance?

Ahhh... do no evil (5, Interesting)

Toe, The (545098) | about 6 years ago | (#25255891)

This is a clear technicality. They're hiring emotionless androids who will do no evil, but also no good. Simply because they won't know the difference.

From Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five:
"This, too, was the title of a book by Trout, The Gutless Wonder. It was about a robot who had bad breath, who became popular after his halitosis was cured. But what made the story remarkable, since it was written in 1932, was that it predicted the widespread use of burning jellied gasoline on human beings. It was dropped on them from airplanes. Robots did the dropping. They had no conscience, and no circuits which would allow them to imagine what happens to people on the ground. Trout's leading robot looked like a human being, and could talk and dance and so on, and go out with girls. And nobody held it against him that he dropped jellied gasoline on people. But they found his halitosis unforgivable. But then he cleared that up, and he was welcomed to the human race."

Um, 'cause they're Google's platform (1)

Toe, The (545098) | about 6 years ago | (#25255921)

Yeah, about two seconds after I clicked "Submit" I remembered the story was about was Motorola, not Google.

Oh well. The Trout story is worth reading anyway.

Re:Um, 'cause they're Google's platform (2, Funny)

Vectronic (1221470) | about 6 years ago | (#25255953)

I think your story is about a red herring... /joke

Re:Ahhh... do no evil (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25264507)

WTF? You know Motorola is NOT Google, right? what a maroon you are. +5 insightful? My ass.

Re:Ahhh... do no evil (1)

Toe, The (545098) | about 6 years ago | (#25264533)

Please read reply above yours... from me... explaining just that.

I'll tell you what's next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255935)

FOREIGN androids! They don't even speak American binary.

Re:I'll tell you what's next (1)

lysergic.acid (845423) | about 6 years ago | (#25256277)

damn foreigners and their backward octals and hexes. twos do not belong in a numeral system!

Re:I'll tell you what's next (1)

mfnickster (182520) | about 6 years ago | (#25256623)

Do they speak Bocce? I bet they're programmed for etiquette and protocol.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (2, Interesting)

Dutch Gun (899105) | about 6 years ago | (#25256055)

You joke, but that was a pretty freaky weird headline to someone like me who had no idea what "Android" was. It took me a few seconds to come to the conclusion that "Android" must be some sort of platform or SDK, but before that my brain came up with a few pretty strange scenarios.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

game kid (805301) | about 6 years ago | (#25271025)

Personally, I refuse to call it an Android framework until someone makes a real-life Cutie Honey [wikipedia.org] with it.

Of course, once I have a prototype of that, I'll enjoy her so much I may never visit a website again, and vertainly not to debate silly things like framework names.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

Graff (532189) | about 6 years ago | (#25256967)

Something tells me that CNet needs to hire a professional headline writer. Which headline would get the point of the article across more easily?

  • Motorola seeks to hire up to 300 Google Android developers
  • Motorola hiring developers for Google's Android

The second one leaves almost no room for confusion. You can read it and get on to the article without a second look. That's the point of a headline, you want it to catch people's attention, have them easily read it, and then move on to the article. Confusion in a headline just draws attention away from the article.

You also want a headline to be concise. The amount of developers doesn't really need to be in the headline unless the amount IS the news. It'd be different if Motorola was hiring 11 billion developers, that large an amount is headline news. Hiring 300 developers is a significant amount but it's probably better to just leave the amount to the actual article.

The last thing is you want a headline to be as dynamic as possible. There is little difference between "seeks to hire" and "is hiring" but the later is much more dynamic and catches people's attention better. It is also more concise, which fits in with what I've said previously.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25261131)

Motorola hiring developers for Google's Android

The second one leaves almost no room for confusion.

No confusion whatsoever, I clearly understand that Motorola is programming an Android for Google.

Hopefully Motorola will bring some Tic-Tacs and keep it away from the jellied gasoline.

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

tuomoks (246421) | about 6 years ago | (#25259995)

Probably never. Look at Motorola, Ericsson and even Nokia (and Siemens) history - it just keeps repeating. These are the phone companies I have been working in/with over years (30+) and it's always the same pattern, again and again. I'm sure that it is about the same with others too, just don't have any experience of those.

300+ developers for phone software? Plus 300+ managers of course, we are talking about a phone company? And their very expensive, VERY slow process, methods and tools as Six Sigma, ClearCase (a Moto inside joke as getting a permission to print your code listing!), and so on? Next mess, next lay offs - I hope not but..

Re:First it was outsourcing... (1)

CodeBuster (516420) | about 6 years ago | (#25306839)

Have you ever seen Lt Cmdr Data [memory-alpha.org] use a computer console? In First Contact, he wrote a crypto program to lock out the entire LCARS operating system from the borg in under six seconds. I mean how are we supposed to even compete with that?

Frist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255765)

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Re:Frist (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255871)

I can has frist post?

No.

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Location? (1)

Black-Man (198831) | about 6 years ago | (#25255777)

Lemme guess.... Pune?

Re:Location? (1)

Ritchie70 (860516) | about 6 years ago | (#25255831)

Well, according to the job posting linked, Sunnyvale, CA.

Thus begins the post-scarcity economy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255795)

Unless the andriods form a union.

Re:Thus begins the post-scarcity economy (3, Funny)

mfnickster (182520) | about 6 years ago | (#25256667)

> Unless the andriods form a union.

Androids don't unionize; they cluster into 'botnets.'

Damn! (1, Funny)

overshoot (39700) | about 6 years ago | (#25255797)

Even asian humans aren't cheap enough now?

Good ol' Motorola (1)

CockMonster (886033) | about 6 years ago | (#25255823)

Jumping on every OS bandwagon going out of pure desperation! How many 'alliances' is it a member of?

Re:Good ol' Motorola (4, Informative)

lysergic.acid (845423) | about 6 years ago | (#25256549)

um... i really don't think their membership was motivated by "pure desperation" considering how many major industry players are a part of the Open Handset Alliance [openhandsetalliance.com] :

  • China Mobile - the world's largest mobile phone operator.
  • KDDI - formed in 2000 in a 3-way merger and is already Japan's second-largest cellular operator with 20% market share and growing.
  • NTT DoCoMo - the number one mobile phone operator in Japan.
  • HTC - a premier Taiwanese ODM who designs a large number of popular handsets which are sold rebranded by major carriers like: Orange, T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel, O2, Vodafone, AT&T, Alltel, Bell Mobility and Telus Mobility. (the T-Mobile G1 [wikipedia.org] was originally conceived as the HTC Dream.)
  • Telecom Italia - the largest Italian phone company and cellular operator.
  • Telefonica - the dominant phone operator in Spain, and the 3rd largest carrier in the world. (behind China Mobile and Vodafone)
  • Broadcom - one of the top 20 semiconductor/IC suppliers in the world (after companies such as Panasonic, Qualcomm, NEC, etc.)
  • Qualcomm - another top 20 worldwide semiconductor sales leader. they also developed EV-DO and other CDMA-based wireless transmission standards.
  • Marvell Technology Group - producer of storage, communications, and semiconductor products. they designed the first Gigabit all-CMOS read channel, the first Gigabit-capable system-on-a-chip (embedded system), and the first SATA interface solution. their wireless devices are used in the OLPC program.
  • Synaptics - a touchpad OEM provider for most laptop manufacturers, like Asus, Acer, Dell, HP, Sony, Toshiba, Gateway, IBM, Lenovo, Samsung, Packard Bell, etc.

not to mention the more well-known members, such as: Spring Nextel, T-Mobile, Intel, Nvidia, Texas Instruments, Google, eBay, LG, and Samsung. given the purpose of the Open Handset Alliance, it wouldn't make sense for Motorola not to be a member. Microsoft and Apple are pretty much the only industry leaders for it not to make sense for them to join the OHA.

if you want to remain a relevant player in the mobile industry, wouldn't it make sense for you to be a part of the organization that is developing the open standards that are going to be used? unless you have an exclusive contract with Microsoft to only use Windows Mobile, or have your own mobile platform like the iPhone, and thus do not require interoperability with any other technologies.

Re:Good ol' Motorola (1)

CockMonster (886033) | about 6 years ago | (#25257175)

Motorola tried Linux phones with RAZR beign the most successful. Good looks let down by substandard software and design. It tries Symbian based phones... no real impact there. Lots of Symbian licencees released great, successful phones especially Nokia. This leads to the conclusing that there's some wrong with Motorola itself, not the OS it chooses to use. How many of those companies you listed above are also members of LIMO or the new Symbian Foundation? The company is fighting for survival and is grasping at straws. It has nothing to offer, Nokia owns its own mapping company and can distribute free music with new phones coming out. What can Motorola do to differentiate itself from the competition? It'll take a while for these new engineers some time to get up to speed with mobile development if they haven't done it already and by that time their experience competitors will have passed them out. If Nokia successfully break into North America that'll be the end of Motorola's mobile phone division. Sad but true.

Re:Good ol' Motorola (1)

lysergic.acid (845423) | about 6 years ago | (#25257307)

i agree that Motorola has a lot of problems (i owned a RAZR, and while it was kinda cool at first, the software was terribly crippled), but i don't think this is a bad move on their part.

by joining the OHA and adopting Adroid (and investing in the platform), they are participating the development of the next major mobile platform. not are they going to have the advantages of interoperability with other handset makers and technologies, but they will also have access to the shared resources of this cross-industry alliance. by participating in industry summits and discussions, they can learn form other companies where they have failed in the past.

and really, you can't put all of the blame on Motorola. handset makers are often restricted by the cellular carriers regarding what they can or can't do with their handsets. that is the problem with proprietary networks and our current telecommunications landscape. a lot of handsets were designed with tons of great features and using open standards, but are then rebranded by the carriers and have their firmware & OS crippled to fit the carrier's business model.

that is why many phones with mp3 playback functionality will not allow you to use mp3 clips as ringtones--because telecoms like T-mobile want to sell ringtones to consumers at extortionate prices. there's not much a handset maker can do about this. and most of the OSes that end users see are heavily modified by their mobile carrier to lock the handset to their network and alter the user experience.

Re:Good ol' Motorola (1)

plover (150551) | about 6 years ago | (#25258993)

i agree that Motorola has a lot of problems (i owned a RAZR, and while it was kinda cool at first, the software was terribly crippled)

As you speculated later, the software was indeed crippled by your phone service provider. I purchased an unlocked Mobilinux-based Z6 ROKR directly from Motorola and it's not hobbled in any way. There are no restrictions on ring tones, images, transferring or importing any media. The Linux-based music app works quite well, and certainly doesn't suck like the "Digital Music Player" that comes standard on their KRZR and RAZR lines. The user interface is clean and sharp, much more professional than their previous offerings.

I also have no complaints about the audio quality, and their completely automated voice recognition is excellent, even in noisy environments. (It recognizes names that are entered in the contact list simply by their English pronunciations -- no training required.) And the EDGE speeds clock in about 115kbps -- nothing to complain about.

However, their Bluetooth software is still bug-prone, and the simple act of loading up and using their Java implementation causes my phone to have fits. This is my third Motorola phone in almost as many years, and I'm getting pretty tired of the lack of improvement in these areas.

This could be very promising. (5, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 6 years ago | (#25255829)

Motorola makes some fairly solid hardware; but their cellphone software has been marked by galling suckitude for some time. If they can use android to give their typically solid lower midrange hardware software with higher end features(real browser, email, not sucking, etc.) they could have a very promising product on their hands.

Re:This could be very promising. (1)

Not_Wiggins (686627) | about 6 years ago | (#25256303)

Motorola makes some fairly solid hardware; but their cellphone software has been marked by galling suckitude for some time. If they can use android to give their typically solid lower midrange hardware software with higher end features(real browser, email, not sucking, etc.) they could have a very promising product on their hands.

Well, unless the new Co-CEO has a different vision, Motorola has been trying very hard to divest itself of its mobile division. This move would represent their desire to continue to move towards an "application development only" model when it comes to cell phones.

Re:This could be very promising. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256939)

but their cellphone software has been marked by galling suckitude for some time

That's what happens when you use ClearCase

Re:This could be very promising. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25262605)

Hopefully that comment is spot-on. Motorola's mobiles themselves have been okay (cool due to them manipulating the halo effect), but the UI has been absolutely atrocious. The below Wiki quote says it all:

According to a survey by Mobile, 78% of RAZR users would not buy another Motorola handset because of poor usability. This figure was even higher for first-time users. One company ranked it 11th out of 13 for ease-of-use, when compared to competitors' products â" the RAZR required extra steps and had poor usability, meaning that users had a 47% success rate for a given task. Also, many people dislike the interaction with it, saying that it's "awful".

Motorola's software has undoubtedly (hopefully) improved since the first generations of RAZRs and SLVRs, but personally I'll never buy one of their phones again.

For their sake, though, it would be in their interest to do something about their software, if it turns away 4 out of every 5 users.

Same with Nokia and Qt (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255847)

This just happens when a company buys into an new technology. Same thing is happening with Nokia and Qt right now.

If you look at their job portal (http://nokia.taleo.net/careersection/10120/jobsearch.ftl) for "Qt", you will find that they are hiring people in 46 different Qt-related positions. Those could be well a lot more in total, since some positions will probably awarded to several persons.

Just count yourself lucky that open source related development arrived at the big companies and move along - or apply :-)

Re:Same with Nokia and Qt (1)

mangu (126918) | about 6 years ago | (#25255937)

Same thing is happening with Nokia and Qt right now

And I'm licking my lips in anticipation of the future Nokia Qt phones. The reason why I haven't got a Nokia smartphone is Symbian. Yes, they work good, have great specs, Nokia even gives away a development environment for them. But it's not Linux.

If I can't have a phone where I can apt-get install whatever I want, create my own applications in kdevelop, then I have no reason to get a smartphone, one of those the phone company gives away will do for me.

How about a Nokia Maemo phone? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 6 years ago | (#25256601)

And I'm licking my lips in anticipation of the future Nokia Qt phones. The reason why I haven't got a Nokia smartphone is Symbian. Yes, they work good, have great specs, Nokia even gives away a development environment for them. But it's not Linux.

How about a Nokia Maemo (http://maemo.org/) phone, the OS that is used on their N800/N810 Internet Tablets?

And, yes it IS Linux.

Watch out... (3, Funny)

weav (158099) | about 6 years ago | (#25255883)

Just watch - they'll want "5 yrs exp." on Android hacking, in the manner of HR ads everywhere, and get only the fakes and posers applying...

Re:Watch out... (1)

Bazman (4849) | about 6 years ago | (#25255945)

They can hire 10 people with 6 months Android experience instead...

Re:Watch out... (1)

Dutch Gun (899105) | about 6 years ago | (#25256017)

From TFA:

"Java and Google Android programming experience" is listed as "highly desirable," but not required.

Still, yeah, it would have been funny, and not the first time we've seen that.

How will Google make money? (2, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | about 6 years ago | (#25255897)

I still do not get it...How will Google make money. The "Android Kernel" is free. Those who create applications for the Android platform will not pay "royalties" to Google. So I still ask: How will Google make money?

Re:How will Google make money? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255933)

I guess by extending their ad reach into mobile devices. And I suppose it's important for them to ensure that Microsoft & Apple doesn't completely control that space.

Re:How will Google make money? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255939)

Perhaps they're not always out to make monies on a development of theirs, @ least not initially - GOOGLE's motto = "Don't be evil", correct? And, money being the "root of all evil" may be right in line w/ their not profiting by its freebie release?

Anyhow/anyways - Plus, you have to get a crowd "into it" first, before you can profit in softwares usually, anyhow. Free is the way to go here, initially @ least I would think.

However, in a more 'direct' answer to your question?

Perhaps GOOGLE intends to profit, via paid for technical support contracts to various companies that buy into the ANDROID dev. system, for their developers. The Linux crew uses this model, iirc (or, something very like it) & apparently, successfully to whatever extent, because Linux has survived!

(Yes, @ the "bottom of the ladder", in terms of % of users for desktops & workstations, but, still a substantial share of market & on servers? Linux does well, low buy in cost is why I would say (and, face it - businesses HATE to spend on things, as it affects the profit "bottom line"), & generally the 'geek' running it knows what he is about AND may not even NEED that tech support contract to be purchased, he can do the job, himself @ this level/end, without help).

I say this, because outside of GOOGLE, it's doubtful there are tons of "5++ yr. development experience using GOOGLE ANDROID" devs out there, period. Who knows, but, listen to others' replies as well, as they may see "angles" here I may have outright missed (it happens).

APK

Re:How will Google make money? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256213)

I'm "pretty sure" that "quotation marks" don't "work" the "way you think" they do.

Re:How will Google make money? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25262969)

I'm absolutely sure you are just another wannabe "spelling & grammar nazi" on this website, because you have no other insight. Clue - this is just a forums, not my last will & testament, nor other document demanding 'perfect english', fool.

Re:How will Google make money? (5, Insightful)

operator_error (1363139) | about 6 years ago | (#25255943)

Google makes money by offering an alternative eco-system conducive to Google's world view; which by the way can differ from Microsoft's. Google *is* web-services for example and MS just discovered the word 'Cloud'.

From Google's perspective, if they didn't offer mobile and PC clients (i.e. Chrome) the alternatives are limited, and don't necessarily present Google apps in the best light, (especially if the world otherwise coded for Active-X).

Re:How will Google make money? (1)

Firehed (942385) | about 6 years ago | (#25256071)

"world otherwise coded for Active-X"? Maybe in some decrepit intranet applications, but outside of Microsoft.com I don't think I've seen a need for ActiveX in at least three years. Probably five.

Then again, that might be due to the fact that I've been using !IE since Firefox ~0.80. I think they were still having the naming debates back then, in fact.

Re:How will Google make money? (1)

drseuss9311 (789400) | about 6 years ago | (#25256609)

"I don't think I've seen a need for ActiveX in at least three years."

sure there's no need for it, but people still do it

"I think they were still having the naming debates back then, in fact."

yeah i think it was called phoenix until .9 or 1.0

Re:How will Google make money? (5, Insightful)

thammoud (193905) | about 6 years ago | (#25255947)

Google will make money by having its applications (and thus more chance for advertisement revenue) distributed on as many phones as possible.

Re:How will Google make money? (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | about 6 years ago | (#25255987)

probably will develop a line of code that allows developers to place google ads in their apps so developers can offer "free" apps that are ad supported.

Re:How will Google make money? (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | about 6 years ago | (#25256133)

They want to kill Microsoft on as many markets as possible. They know that MSN, Windows Search, hotmail, and various Microsoft services are a threat not because they are technically superior, but because they are forcibly imposed on the user. Google tries to create an environment in which it can compete technically with Microsoft.

Also, they have too much money for all their needs, better fund projects like the Android than pay tax money to the current US administration...

Ad-supported applications (3, Interesting)

Stu Charlton (1311) | about 6 years ago | (#25256263)

Google's Eric Schmidt has stated that they want most consumer (and some business) computing to move to ad-supported revenue.

By expanding the pond -- or changing it (1)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | about 6 years ago | (#25259871)

Most companies have a decidedly narrow view of the pond they want to be king of, that it is a zero sum game and they can only make money at the expense of the other players. Google thinks they can expand the pond and make money that way. Thus Android, maps, mail, everything they do ... they want to target ads to you based on what is your interest of the moment. If they can learn what your interest is on the cell phone -- by getting you to use google maps and mail on the cell phone -- they can increase the pond and make more money that way.

Or maybe a more precise explanation is that they want to change the pond entirely, from selling apps and selling untargeted ads to selling targeted as, with free apps drawing people over to the new pond.

Google has a much longer outlook on how to make money, mainly because everybody else is still circled around the old pond. It will be interesting to see how their "Do No Evil" motto morphs as the new pond becomes the In place.

$275k? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25255929)

"Xconomy has a related interview with a member of the MIT team that won a $275,000 prize in the Android Developer Challenge by creating an application to automatically modify a phone's settings depending on its location"

That sounds like a rather trivial task. Including gui-design, testing and polishing, i wouldn't expect anyone working _alone_ on this to spend more than three days or so on it. I think they won because the girls in that team look nice in the press and because "not possible on iphone" has a good ring to it.

Re:$275k? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256401)

Don't be a dick. It was an open challenge. If you could've done better in 4 days, why didn't you?

Re:$275k? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256421)

He's a manager, not a developer.

300 Developers? (1)

lokpest (1136949) | about 6 years ago | (#25255991)

Sound like... Developers, developers, developers, developers....

Re:300 Developers? (1)

Kaeles (971982) | about 6 years ago | (#25256053)

All I could think of was

This is AAANNDDROOOOIIIIIDDDD!

I hear Android is going to outsource (1)

plopez (54068) | about 6 years ago | (#25256005)

to Tyrelll corp.for some cheap Nexus 6 labor.

what does this mean? (1)

nx6310 (1150553) | about 6 years ago | (#25256013)

Will we be seeing new weapons systems with Android at heart?

The Problem With Android Developers (1)

rssrss (686344) | about 6 years ago | (#25256015)

The problem with android developers is that they have to be deactivated after four years, and you have to hire and train new ones.

TPM on Android? (2, Interesting)

KNicolson (147698) | about 6 years ago | (#25256029)

HTC are using the OKL4 kernel on their phones, which is derived from the L4 kernel that provides the trusted computing base for a number of large-scale European projects based around mobile and embedded trust through the TPM.

I wonder what it all means?

PREPARE FOR GLORY (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 6 years ago | (#25256087)

Gather 'round, slashdaughters. A new age is dawning, an age of open-source and freedom! And all will know that the 300 developers gave their last breath to develop it. WHOM!

What an interesting article. (1)

WelcomeOurOverlords (1309475) | about 6 years ago | (#25256125)

I, for one, welcome our new android overlords.

Wanted:Android Developers (1)

sycodon (149926) | about 6 years ago | (#25256207)

Exceptional candidates with 10 years experience in Android development, In depth knowledge of Android Internals a plus. Must be familiar with all aspects of the Android phone.

Re:Wanted:Android Developers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25256369)

You know what's funnier than the goofball employers and headhunters that put out ads like that?

All people that have updated their resumes to list 11 years of experience.

T-Mobile has more than made plans to use Android (1)

Per Bothner (19354) | about 6 years ago | (#25256633)

The article poster hasn't been paying much attention ...

Hint: Google for "android g1".

Android looks like a loser (1)

zymano (581466) | about 6 years ago | (#25257001)

What's the point. Same price as other phones. Same rates.

Will, Won't, Can't... (1)

cstacy (534252) | about 6 years ago | (#25257291)

The phone will have text entry modes: Abc, ABC, 123, but will not have the "smart words" input completion feature. Andriod developers can not learn to use contractions...

wouldn't "even" be possible on an iPhone? (1)

hobbit (5915) | about 6 years ago | (#25257843)

...creating an application to automatically modify a phone's settings depending on its location, which they say "wouldn't even be possible on an iPhone."

What about creating a trojan which automatically modifies a phone's settings depending on the whim of its creator?

A bazaar-style marketplace sounds all well and good, but the open approach of YouTube doesn't necessarily fly with potentially malicious code.

The 300? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25258057)

Do 300 Android Developers exist outside of Google?

Steve Jobs' shame (1)

religious freak (1005821) | about 6 years ago | (#25258693)

Open devices win - I'm surprised Jobs has not learned this by now. The iPhone will be getting trounced in ~1 year or so, just like the Apple computer did decades ago.

Re:Steve Jobs' shame (1)

earlymon (1116185) | about 6 years ago | (#25260503)

You're comparing oranges to jet engines.

I had a lab with data acquisition equipment, etc, etc, etc running from an Apple II + specifically because its wealth of plug-in cards made it possible. Then PCs came out - with plug-in cards. Then the Mac came out, without plug-in cards. I was one of those back then saying that Apple lost it because their computer was no longer open - in the sense of open the box and add more. The lab was eventually converted to a Compaq.

Your statement - referencing "decades ago" - is clearly confusing "an ability to open the box" with Open. And, for me, that seems like it must have been hard to do.

Why you feel a need to think this way, beyond the obvious iPhone bashing, is beyond me - and I must say the whole "trouncing iPhone" meme - while always lame - is now officially tedious.

You're not engaged in market analysis when you use specious remarks - that dog don't hunt; please don't pretend it does.

Re:Steve Jobs' shame (1)

trouser (149900) | about 6 years ago | (#25269067)

Never underestimate the apathy of the average consumer. They don't want an open platform they're never going to develop content for. They want shiny.

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Yey more people for motorola to fire(err lay off) (1)

iduno (834351) | about 6 years ago | (#25260001)

Umm why don't they just move some of the people that they still havn't layed off to the project. And its just like Moto to start another platform because they realize that the other ones have too much crap in them. The problem is that they will manage to stuff it up again, because they will find a problem then say its working as designed because its too much effort to fix, because someone didn't have to foresight to do it right to begin with. Oh well I don't have to deal with the stupidities that go on with Moto any more (I was in one of the recent rounds of layoffs).

Do you have what it takes? (1)

SageMusings (463344) | about 6 years ago | (#25261583)

Position requirements:

10+ years exp with the Android dev env on Solaris, Unix, MS Windows, hand-held devices a plus.
Recent grads only, please.

I suppose they'll have to grant more Visas because we can't source the talent in the U.S.

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