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Cisco Ships Mexican Folk Music On VPN Client CD

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the whistle-while-you-work dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 79

jemduff writes "So we receive our brand new firewall from CISCO and all goes well with the setup... until we try to upgrade our VPN client and we discovered that the installation CDs from CISCO contain 12 tracks of Mexican music!!? Not too bad if you're into that kind of music ... too bad if you need to get onto your corporate network. How much did those routers cost, again? 5,000,000 pesos?"

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Thats what you get for out sourcing... (1)

djsmiley (752149) | more than 5 years ago | (#25302933)

Oh dear, XD

Well, of course (5, Funny)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 5 years ago | (#25302945)

The Windows version uses OLE.

Re:Well, of course (5, Funny)

Kooty-Sentinel (1291050) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303207)

The Linux version comes with Samba ;)

Re:Well, of course (0)

rvw (755107) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304225)

But Mac(h)os are the only real Mexicans!

Re:Well, of course (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25314219)

This happened to me once! Well, except that I was buying a Dead Kennedy's CD, not firewall software....

Uh-oh (5, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303007)

An american company outsources its CD-pressing to China and ends up with Mexican folk music on the discs.

I don't why but I'm sure that someone, somewhere, is blaming Canada for this.

Re:Uh-oh (0, Redundant)

bubulubugoth (896803) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303067)

lol

Re:Uh-oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25304265)

I don't why but I'm sure that someone, somewhere, is blaming Canada for this.

Or George Bush.

Re:Uh-oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25305345)

Yup, made in China. All work is farmed out, saves on job creation back home, ensuring higher bonuses for the executives. Business is getting a bit top-heavy, which is why things are toppling (I mean: adjusting)... but I digress.
I did see this once with a major music CD importer - the factory - then in Tie One (don't tie the other) mixed up a batch of one band pressings with another band's labelling. Same result as the Mexican Chisco Samba of this story. :) :) :)

Re:Uh-oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25306137)

An american company outsources its CD-pressing to China...

OK, stop right there. How many tenths of pennies are we attempting to save here by outsourcing what boils down to pressing the big "GO" button on a CD pressing/duplicating machine?!? Damn, can we not keep ONE fucking job in the US?!?

Re:Uh-oh (1)

PCMeister (837482) | more than 5 years ago | (#25306753)

Not necessarily... You forgot to read the fine print on the "Made in the USA" label with an asterisk.

Made the USA*

[micro font]
With parts from Canada, China and Mexico
Assembled in Mexico with Chinese Labor (or Labour for our British friends)
Overseen by Canadian Overlords via Cisco Telepresence
CDs Pressed in China with Mexican Music courtesy of disgruntled Chinese employee for their bretheren in Mexican Cisco Plant
[/micro font]

I disgress...

Piracy! (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 5 years ago | (#25323989)

And the RIAA will use this as more evidence that piracy has gone up.

Unauthorized copies of music being shipped...

Folk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303093)

That's not Folk. But let the Cisco Kid jokes begin.

Maybe that thought it was the Cisco Kid (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303121)

or Mexican music is to software as melamine is to milk

Meanwhile... (2, Funny)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303187)

I'm guessing that somewhere there are some pissed off chicanos whose brand new norteno CD's won't play...

Re:Meanwhile... (4, Funny)

santiagoanders (1357681) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303609)

Los chicanos no compran esos CDs. Se venden copias en la calle, y esos son mas baratos. Vive la Raza!

Re:Meanwhile... (2, Interesting)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304081)

Me pregunto si, tal vez se existen un grupo llaman "Cisco"?

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

tmtm (847069) | more than 5 years ago | (#25306329)

Great! Almost there (a little grammar Nazi in Spanish):

Me pregunto si, tal vez existe un grupo llamado "Cisco"

And, I am not familiar with any 'big/famous band' with that name.

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25309813)

ÂCisco?
ÂSi! ÂCisco està allà con Pancho!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cisco_Kid [wikipedia.org]

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25312701)

Cisco is sometimes used as a short for "Francisco", which is usually nicknamed "Pancho" (you know, like Pancho Villa)

Maybe, here in Mexico are on sale UNIX diapers (1)

Kyusaku Natsume (1098) | more than 5 years ago | (#25320107)

I suppose they do multitasking: acept simultaneously pee and poo from the child processes.

Next up: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303237)

RIAA sues Cisco for 11,000,000,000,000 pesos, per track.

Long court battle ensues, Cisco claims ownership of anonymous Mexican folk band.

And on the flip side... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303335)

And let's not forget those hapless people who just got the VPN clients. ÂQue?
Someone should keep a look out for the counterpart of this story on TeleMundo and make complete the cycle.

Translation (0, Redundant)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303343)

There was a mix-up at the CD pressing factory and a Mexican music CD got labeled with Cisco's VPN software label and has been shipped/delivered to customers as such.

I guess the story here is Cisco doesn't have any/sufficient QA on their CD's coming back from the factory.

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303399)

Man! Even the Mexicans are outsourcing.

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303649)

The lack of QA you mention is kinda scary given the market Cisco pushes their products towards. If they can ship the disks with the wrong images, they could easily ship disks with tampered images.

Re:Translation (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305627)

Doesn't matter, you can have the concentrator check the client, unless someones figured out how to fake the cryptographic signature with a tampered binary there's no real chance of a secure network being compromised.

Re:Translation (4, Funny)

Dr Caleb (121505) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304239)

I guess the funnier part is, thousands of Traditional Mexican music lovers haven't noticed the squeals and chirps coming from their CD players.

Re:Translation (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305595)

Ayuda! Mis oÃdos estÃn sangrando profusamente!

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25307279)

But Nine Inch Nails fans are saying "Cool".

Re:Translation (4, Interesting)

lysergic.acid (845423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304253)

these kind of things happen. and considering the size of the company involved (and the volume of product they ship), it's almost guaranteed to happen once in a while.

in this case it might not have been a problem on Cisco's end, unless they press their own CDs. whenever you depend on third parties (i.e. outsourcing manufacturing) you expose yourself to these type of factory screw ups, and no amount of QA will prevent it unless you have complete vertical integration.

all you can do is pick your suppliers carefully and obtain compensation for factory mistakes such as these. and if you're lucky, the screw up won't damage your company's reputation or customer relations.

at my work we've gone through several different printers and CD/DVD manufacturers for this exact reason. we didn't have any mixups this bad, but there have been many sub-standard shipments causing delays.

but by far the worst case was when my boss, against my warnings, decided to pursue DRMed audio CDs. i forget the name of the DRM scheme we went with, but it was a popular DRM technology that many of the majors were using at the time. we ended up getting a flood of complaints from customers who couldn't get their CDs to play on their computer or CD players. it ended up costing the company a ton of money and likely drove away a lot of customers. the stupid thing is, there was no evidence that our music was being pirated, and sales were actually on the rise due to the newly launched online store.

That software has bugs, specifically (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303405)

la cocoracha!

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303547)

great idea! ~

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303633)

It is "cucacacha", you insensible gringo clod XD

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25303643)

I mean, "cucaracha", ops.

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (4, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304127)

la cocoracha!

The chocolate-roach?

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (2, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305311)

...chocolate-roach?

Yes, right next to the Crunchy Frog.

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (1)

ram.loss (151102) | more than 5 years ago | (#25307049)

nope
the coconut-roach

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25311267)

la cocoracha!

The chocolate-roach?

Make it the coconut-roach better. WHOA! What a mighty beast it must be!

Re:That software has bugs, specifically (2, Funny)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305673)

You mean "la chupacabra".

Yo quero (1)

RadioactiveRussian (1362907) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303483)

taco bell... mmm...

:D (1)

kingsteve612 (1241114) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303551)

Thats awesome. I'm going to go buy some more Cisco products so i can get me some Mexicant music.

An interview with the new Cisco VP of Mfg... (3, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303677)

Re:An interview with the new Cisco VP of Mfg... (1)

indi0144 (1264518) | more than 5 years ago | (#25310133)

it's a love song you insensitive puto XD

I suspect... (1, Redundant)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303713)

...the Cisco Kid.

"Oh, Pancho!"
"Oh, Cisco!"

Cue the RIAA lawsuit in 5 ... 4 ... (1)

Hotawa Hawk-eye (976755) | more than 5 years ago | (#25303937)

After all, I'll bet CISCO didn't have a license to redistribute that music.

OK guys... (4, Funny)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304095)

I must admit: this is funny. I picture the whole situation, and the mariachi music coming out of the speakers of the laptop, and I laugh my ass off. Just imagine those CCIEs with the WTF look on their faces.

I wish I was there, with a camera.

Re:OK guys... (1)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305299)

As a CCIE I must say that there'd probably be "Sigh....can't these guys get ANYTHING right"-reaction instead of a "WTF"...

Re:OK guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25306145)

Most CCIEs probably won't notice. At least the ones I have met.

Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25304219)

Somewhere, some DJ is trying to figure out why his CD player is trying to ping the amplifier.

If anyone's interested... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25304587)

This seems to be the music they're talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 [youtube.com]

Re:If anyone's interested... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25317027)

You bastard!

Mexican here, shedding some light (4, Informative)

Tatisimo (1061320) | more than 5 years ago | (#25304699)

The song sample is one of the crappy bootleg remixes that wanna be DJs sell on swap meets. Also, it's crappy "Narco Corridos" (check out what wikipedia has to say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido [wikipedia.org] ), a genre that some songwriter friends of mine define as "the cancer that is killing Mexican music". The first thing is the cliche echo deep voice, frequent in remix CDs, followed by some guy singing about how much he loves drugs. Oh, and the pic is totally unrelated. I've never heard narco corridos played by a mariachi band!

Not that this will help solve the mystery, but whoever pulled this prank has a very poor taste in music, I'd say.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (1)

jimper (1374763) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305353)

The first song is basically our version of 'gangster rap'. It is probably a pirate version destined to be sold in either Mexico or the USA...

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25305739)

It's all part of the rich cultural heritage of Mexico.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25306061)

Funny...... This is Mexican music indeed, ... i can tell you almost for sure, that it is the copy of a dj pirated cd...

Almost every pirated cd sold in Mexico has those kind of mixes in the beggining. because the people who sells them need a quick way to show the customer which artists are in it.

And about the taste of the music... the worst.... like some said before... these are narcocorridos en banda norteña not mariachi.

Saludos.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25307565)

And about the taste of the music... the worst.... like some said before... these are narcocorridos en banda norteña not mariachi.

It's all the same. Mexican culture idolizes gang activity and crime, so it makes perfect sense that Mexican music would glamorize it as well.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (1)

indi0144 (1264518) | more than 5 years ago | (#25310149)

no thats not true, it's like to say that American music it's just gangsta and high school musical.. oh wait

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25317757)

Wrong. America is only like that in the ghettos, which makes sense since rap "music" also comes from the ghettos.

Mexico is just one big ghetto. Gang wars are killing 50 people per week in Tijuana. Severed heads are being left in front of police stations. The police are all corrupt. The place is a cesspool.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (1)

indi0144 (1264518) | more than 5 years ago | (#25337231)

Wrong dude cut it with the xenophobia, Mexico it's a big country they still have native communities and pretty much the average Joe it somewhat educated, you're talking about Tijuana, .. well thats just the border.. AND WHO THE FUCK FINANCE THAT CESSPOOL?? HUH? The bullets that kill all those people are paid with the money you spend on drugs (legal or illegal) either there or from there.. and You need to be a world class moron to complain about something your country is causing.. no wonder why you're in an economical chaos, you like to blame other counties for the things you started and fueled there, but you can't just see under the bed. Take that thicks out off your ass first and then TRY to dictate how the rest of the world should be. As if America could be the example of how a country should be. I love America and wish it's best, but morons like you that don't know anything else but complain about what themselves cause just piss me off. You can mood me to the Yucatan, but you can't mood reality.

Re:Mexican here, shedding some light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25358967)

Drugs? That's the standard argument I've heard elsewhere, and it's retarded. It doesn't matter what other countries do within their borders; if that's affecting things inside your country, that's your own fault.

If illegal drugs are such a problem in Mexico because of US demand, there are many simple answers: 1) legalize them, 2) legalize shipping them to the US.

The basic fact is that your politicians are incredibly corrupt, as are your policemen. (And don't try to compare to the USA here either; Mexico being a cesspool doesn't have anything to do with the current state of the USA or any other country other than Mexico.) And that is the people's fault, since they're the ones who vote for the politicians.

There's other countries in Central America that don't have all these problems, such as Costa Rica. The problem with Mexico is the idiot people who live there.

As for US problems, those certainly exist, but they have little to nothing to do with Mexico (aside from all the illegal cockroaches you send up here, who refuse to pay for all the social services they require).

"West Side Story", "America" (1, Insightful)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305105)

I kinda liked the "America" version on the CD:

I like to be in America,

Welfare for me in America,

Sub-Prime-Loans for me in America,

Taxpayer bailouts for me in America!

Routers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25305217)

We don't need no stinkin' routers!

This is good, A great world deserves great art. (2, Insightful)

Irvu (248207) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305373)

You see this is good, very good. Too few companies today, and I want to emphasize it too few really support the arts. I mean arts programming used to be a feather in the corporate cap with major vendors underwriting the opera, theatre, school trips to the meuseum, and Lawrence Welk. [wikipedia.org] . Today that is fast disappearing as are the vital arts programs they backed. It's nice to see a company bucking this trend, and it makes the wait for updates that much more eager. I can't wait to see what I get next with my router: Tuvan Throat Singing? Classical jaw harp? or Wesley Willis.

Cisco, you've got my business. Never mind that whole great firewall of China thing. This is cool.

This is actually common. (1)

DewDude (537374) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305793)

Why does everyone sound shocked? I mean, sure, these days it's not as common, but, 10 years ago..it was a rare occurance, but happend often enough I laughed t it. I can't count the number of audio CD's that were pressed with one name and had NOTHING to do with reality. the greatest example was boot magazine (which is now MaximumPC. Issue #23's shareware CD...at least in the package I got, contained Windows NT Server 4 - said bootdisc 23 on the outside...but the pits were NT Server...and i'm ashamed to admit I did figure out how to get it working (who knew all 1's was a valid NT4 license key)

I had one of these from Capcom (1)

cjeris (29514) | more than 5 years ago | (#25305941)

I had a good one of these a couple years ago. Brought home a copy of the Greatest Hits run of Devil May Cry (PS2). Case was right, disc label was right. Stuck it in the PS2, and the disc turned out to be ... a DVD of the Rankin-Bass stop-motion animated Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. I hadn't seen it in over a decade.

RIAA compliant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25306977)

Isn't this a compilation disk? RIAA should be over Cisco for distributing it (for pay no less).

Backdoor found on Cisco VPN Software (1)

Garabito (720521) | more than 5 years ago | (#25306983)

The backdoor is known as "La puerta Negra"

Re:Backdoor found on Cisco VPN Software (2, Informative)

proverbialcow (177020) | more than 5 years ago | (#25309699)

The blackdoor is known as "La puerta Negra"

Fixed it for you.

This can happen from time to time (2, Funny)

Megane (129182) | more than 5 years ago | (#25307139)

A spindle of freshly-pressed discs that haven't had their labels printed yet ends up in the wrong stack, and presto, it ends up with the wrong label and shipped out based on the label.

Back in the early days of DVD, I heard of cases where two titles had misprints with each other's labels. Movie A would get label B, and movie B would get label A. So it's entirely possible that there's some DJ out there who is wondering why he is hearing nothing but a loud screeching, or nothing if his CD player is smart enough to know not to play a data track. But from the description of the music, it would probably be an improvement.

And somewhere... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 5 years ago | (#25307835)

...a puzzled Mexican family is listening to digital noise on their CD player.

When played (3, Funny)

chord.wav (599850) | more than 5 years ago | (#25308373)

The last track, past the minute 13, has a hidden message. It translates: "This is Ramón speaking, if you hear this please call amnesty international. I've been enslaved in a chinese CD-making factory. Somebody please help me!!"

Happened to me with Encarta 95 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25308671)

Wound up with 3 unreleased tracks from brit band Oasis on my Encarta 95 cd, the tracks didn't get released until about 3 years later. Had no idea who they were though at the time

CDs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25309115)

Who actually uses the software that comes on these CDs anyways? Go to the company's website and download the latest version for crying out loud.

finally (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25309583)

haaaa, revenge is a dish best served cold.

a mexican

Mexican dish revenge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25315439)

Long after the food in your stomach is cold is when most Mexican dishes take their revenge!

Toor (1)

toor217 (1370003) | more than 5 years ago | (#25310263)

All I can say is music copyright and royalties. Cisco's i

slave labor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25311137)

That's just one thing you get in a globalized slave labor economy.

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