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Top Apple Rumors, Bricks, Low Price, NVIDIA

CmdrTaco posted about 6 years ago | from the my-macbook-is-broken dept.

Portables (Apple) 283

Vigile writes "With the news that Apple will be releasing new MacBook products on October 14th, speculation has begun on what exactly those new products will be. Tips of a manufacturing process involving lasers and a single 'brick' of aluminum are catching on, as is the idea of a sub-$1000 netbook-type device. More interesting might be the persistent rumors of an NVIDIA chipset adoption that would drastically increase gaming ability, allow MacBooks to improve their support for OpenCL and take advantage of the new Adobe CS4 software with GPU acceleration. Will NVIDIA's ailing chipset business get a shot in the arm next week?"

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Hooray for NVIDIA (5, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | about 6 years ago | (#25329573)

God knows that gaming graphics is the only reason left why I'm still hanging on to the PC platform...

Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (3, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25329675)

God knows that gaming graphics is the only reason left why I'm still hanging on to the PC platform...

Are first-person shooters and indie games the only reason left why you haven't already moved to the Xbox 360 or PS3 platform?

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (5, Informative)

BlowHole666 (1152399) | about 6 years ago | (#25329789)

Well not too many MMOs are played on an Xbox 360 or PS3. Probably the only semi-big name game that is on a console is the Final Fantasy one. Age of Conan "Claims" they will make a game for the Xbox 360. So if you are an MMO fan and you play games like DAoC, WOW, Warhammer, EVE you are stuck with a PC/mac rather then a console.

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (4, Insightful)

Synn (6288) | about 6 years ago | (#25329839)

I own a PS3 and I still prefer PCs for shooters and gaming. I just like the interface better.

Though maybe that would change if I just forced myself to play them on consoles more.

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 6 years ago | (#25330077)

I dunno. If you are going to play "shooters", then why
not use a platform where you can actually hold a gun,
point it at things and shoot?

???

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (2, Funny)

butterflysrage (1066514) | about 6 years ago | (#25330123)

same reason I don't go to a gun range... I'm a crappy shot.

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (0, Flamebait)

jedidiah (1196) | about 6 years ago | (#25330231)

Oh that's a hoot...

"I play shooters, cause I can't hope to do the real thing."

It's a GAME.

You don't have to worry about the trigger pull, the weight of the
gun, the length of the gun or keeping the gun steady during recoil.

That wii controller is not going to have any of the drawbacks of an AK-47, or an M-16 or even a 9mm Luger.

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (2, Informative)

PitaBred (632671) | about 6 years ago | (#25330457)

Because you lose the ability to control your movements accurately, and you end up with a rail shooter. Aiming and shooting is all well and good, but putting the movement controls on the same gun would is a pain in the ass. The only solution would be something like the Wii nunchuk combined with a one-handed gun adapter. Which would actually be kinda cool, but it hasn't been pulled off quite right yet, and either way it limits you to Wii graphics, which are nowhere near what PS3/360/PC capabilities are right now. The Wii is a lot of fun, but no one is claiming it's next-gen graphics ;)

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (5, Funny)

hendrix2k (1099161) | about 6 years ago | (#25330425)

One need only follow this simple chart. [wordpress.com]

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (1)

Machtyn (759119) | about 6 years ago | (#25330313)

My wife "owns" the tv, I "own" the computers. We all have our own computer, there are one or two TVs in the house. Consoles are good party gaming machines. PCs are serious gaming machines, or the one that you can use without bugging someone else to "stop and let me play".

So, no, that's not the reason I haven't even considered purchasing a console. Though, the wife broke me down and I allowed her to get a Nintendo Wii... which is now collecting dust :^/

Re:Mac vs. PC vs. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25330437)

Consoles are good party gaming machines. PCs are serious gaming machines

Then which are good indie party gaming machines? Or ought "indie party gaming" not exist?

Re:Hooray for NVIDIA (0)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | about 6 years ago | (#25329745)

Likely it will be the low end on board video that uses system ram nvidia video that is better then Intel but still for gameing video but all system should have a DVDRW the $1100 mac book should have one the $600 mini should also have one.

But they the mac pro will likely come with better cards at $1800 + then system at $1200 - $1500 have. Right now the $2000 mac book pro comes with a mid range card.

And the mac book black at $1400 + should come with 128 to 256 video ram + a 15" screen.

The mini should drop to $500 with the $700+ mini getting a real video card as well.

Re:Hooray for NVIDIA (5, Insightful)

spazdor (902907) | about 6 years ago | (#25330023)

For the love of God, man, use a comma!

Still won't save nVidia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330549)

I love nVidia, but having a lock on Apple still won't save them. Unless they can make a shockingly large profit margin, of course. But given how aggressively spiteful Apple is of anyone making money on stuff bearing an Apple logo, that's highly unlikely.

Somehow, I can't see how moving from a huge amount of the computer market to most of a 4% share of it will help. Sure, it might keep them afloat, but it's a huge step down.

IMO, AMD was stupid for purchasing ATI... they should have purchased nVidia. Trying to improve ATI is like polishing a turd.

I'll buy apple... (5, Funny)

conner_bw (120497) | about 6 years ago | (#25329575)

...when leopard freezes over!

Re:I'll buy apple... (4, Funny)

MacColossus (932054) | about 6 years ago | (#25329757)

SNOW Leopard comes out next year. Start saving your pennies. :-) http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ [apple.com]

Re:I'll buy apple... (4, Funny)

jazuki (70860) | about 6 years ago | (#25330459)

I'll buy apple... ...when leopard freezes over!

SNOW Leopard comes out next year. Start saving your pennies. :-)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ [apple.com]

Are you trying to explain the joke? Or announcing you didn't get it? ;)

Re:I'll buy apple... (1)

MacColossus (932054) | about 6 years ago | (#25330569)

Neither. Just holding people to their word.

Re:I'll buy apple... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329867)

If you really want an OS that randomly freezes over on you, you should've stuck with Windows ME.

Re:I'll buy apple... (1)

spazdor (902907) | about 6 years ago | (#25330041)

Leopard... Hell...

Tomayto tomahto.

LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329595)

Apple will announce that due to the financial crisis, they've been able to purcase Iceland. However, it will be rebranded as iCeland. Steve Jobs was apparently very fond of their homogeneous population.

Re:LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329785)

Steve Jobs was apparently very fond of their homosexual population.

There, fixed that for 'ya!

Re:LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329799)

As part of the deal they're also getting England which will of course be re branded to iNgland.

Re:LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (5, Funny)

Gewalt (1200451) | about 6 years ago | (#25329949)

I don't think I've ever heard Bjork described as "homogenous" before.

Re:LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (1)

itsdapead (734413) | about 6 years ago | (#25330359)

Apple will announce that due to the financial crisis, they've been able to purcase Iceland.

Great! perhaps that means that Gordon Brown will use anti-terror legislation to seize control of all the Apple Stores in the UK and hand out free MacBooks to disgruntled savers.

(Apparently my money is safe, but its now in Holland - hope they don't put it all into tulip futures)

Re:LEAK! This year's "ONE MORE THING" (1)

808Lupine (226972) | about 6 years ago | (#25330497)

That's good. It actually wouldn't surprise me at all.

Carved from... (0)

BloodyIron (939359) | about 6 years ago | (#25329607)

Perhaps you mean carved or machined from a single piece of aluminum? As opposed to bent, or molded...

Re:Carved from... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329997)

He meant "brick" as in "Mac products are basically bricks(albeit shiny ones) anyway".

Moo? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329631)

Moo!

Signed, the Cow King from D2LOD.

Re:Moo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329991)

Only Moo??? No Moo Moo or Moooooo?
You lazy cow!!!

Re:Moo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330045)

Moo-moo, mooooooooooo!

Or put another way (5, Funny)

Ukab the Great (87152) | about 6 years ago | (#25329665)

Apple will soon be selling pre-bricked laptops.

Re:Or put another way (1)

Sentry21 (8183) | about 6 years ago | (#25330351)

"Your Macbook portable computer comes from the factory pre-bricked. To unbrick your computer, or wake it from brick mode after inactivity, simply press the power button above the keyboard."

If they sell a laptop for $800... (5, Interesting)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25329673)

If they sell a laptop for $800, as rumored, then who's going to buy a Mac mini for $600+?

Of course, they could probably sell the mini for $400 and still make 40% profit. It's basically a laptop with the most expensive part of a laptop (the screen) left out.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (5, Insightful)

pete-classic (75983) | about 6 years ago | (#25329763)

All I want for Christmas is a Mini with a Blu-ray drive. An integrated screen is a detriment to an HTPC.

-Peter

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (2, Insightful)

Shivetya (243324) | about 6 years ago | (#25329869)

Makes more sense to expand the iTV to support a Blu-Ray drive and offer it in black.

Sorry, but the mini just doesn't fit for me. It looks out of place unless I hide it behind the TV

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (4, Insightful)

pete-classic (75983) | about 6 years ago | (#25330507)

I really like having a general purpose computer hooked up to my TV.

You know you can't add codecs to an AppleTV without voiding the warranty, right? And it doesn't have the horsepower to decode anything good in software anyway. Blech.

Seems way more important than the color to me. But if you're really hung up on it, buy a skin: http://www.skinit.com/devices/miscellaneous/apple_miscellaneous [skinit.com] (You can do "custom" and select all black.)

-Peter

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329955)

why do people still want an HTPC when things like the Popcorn Hour A-110 exist? It draws was less power than a PC and is fairly inexpensive.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | about 6 years ago | (#25329999)

Because I want a DVR, not a streaming box.

Wait for ture2way before getting a apple drv as... (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | about 6 years ago | (#25330091)

Wait for ture2way before getting a apple drv as the cable co have mess cable card v1 up real bad.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330007)

Because the Popcorn Hour has about as much flexibility as an uncooked spaghetti.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

pete-classic (75983) | about 6 years ago | (#25330361)

That's pretty good. But still no Blu-ray . . . which you might recall was my original request.

Looks like the codec support is pretty good, but I like having a full-blown computer hooked up to my TV. Web, email, handbrake, bittorrent, easy codec updates.

I'm happy to pay three times as much (and burn three times the juice) for all the features I want. Actually, at the end of the day it saves power, since I'd have to run some other computing platform in addition to "Popcorn Hour".

-Peter

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

not already in use (972294) | about 6 years ago | (#25330327)

All I want for christmas is a PSP. Wanna hear my rap?

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

barzok (26681) | about 6 years ago | (#25330551)

All I want for Christmas is a Mini with a Blu-ray drive

That may be enough for me to cancel my cable subscription.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329767)

mini for the living room, MBP for meetings, $800 laptop for starbucks, ipod for walking-dancing, iphone for amazing portable apps, MacPro for games (photoshop), i don't see overlapping.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (2, Funny)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25330081)

I wish I had your discretionary toy budget.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

not already in use (972294) | about 6 years ago | (#25330413)

MBP for meetings, $800 laptop for starbucks

No, no overlapping at all.

$600 to $1500+ mini tower (0, Redundant)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | about 6 years ago | (#25329803)

People want a desktop mac mini / mid tower with DESKTOP PARTS.

Re:$600 to $1500+ mini tower (2, Interesting)

jedidiah (1196) | about 6 years ago | (#25330139)

Most people are ill equipped to fill up a 40G drive, nevermind 1TB.

Those of us that can easily fill up a 1TB drive, find ourselves
wanting a lot more. So the mini isn't as bad as one might think
at first glance. There are far better things that Apple could do
with the line besides replicate the System76 Sable.

A Quad core mini would be my personal first choice. Add a video
chipset that has onboard h264 acceleration (although with the
quad you might not need it).

An appletv that can go toe to toe with the popcorn hour when
it comes to h264 decoding would also be a good move.

Re:$600 to $1500+ mini tower (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25330349)

If you could stick a decent video card and a 5.25" hard drive in the mini, it might be worth $600. With Intel Integrated Graphics Disaster and a laptop drive, it's not. With a 16x PCI-E slot and a larger hard drive it'd be a bit less "mini", but not by much, and it'd paper over the gap in the product line nicely.

Re:$600 to $1500+ mini tower (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 6 years ago | (#25330537)

Go tell it to everyone else.

In the "it fits inside the footprint of a VCR or DVD player" category, it's VERY price competitive.

It also does well against the larger Vista machines selling at places like Costco and BestBuy and will be more than adequate for that sort of user.

If you are "more demanding", a Sable really isn't going to cut it either.

If you are "more demanding", ultimately the only thing that will suffice is building your own box from scratch.

Any brand name Windows PC that fits your requirements is a very good lesson in that regard.

An Apple is cheaper. How soon until the world ends?

Re:$600 to $1500+ mini tower (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | about 6 years ago | (#25330579)

Who the hell uses 5.25" hard drives these days? If you use a Quantum Bigfoot, you deserve every kind of data loss and corruption you get.

Re:$600 to $1500+ mini tower (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | about 6 years ago | (#25330585)

Those of us that can easily fill up a 1TB drive, find ourselves
wanting a lot more.

A Quad core mini would be my personal first choice.

I see your Mac Mini, keyboard, and display sitting on a large desk supported by four or five heavy duty server cases holding a dozen hard drives each.

(I've thought the same, and I have those server cases.)

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (3, Informative)

ceoyoyo (59147) | about 6 years ago | (#25329897)

There have been rumours of the mini getting cancelled for years. It might finally happen. The notebook market seems to be leaving the desktop market behind anyway.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (4, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25330087)

Apple's laptop sales passed their desktop sales over two years ago. They cater for the 'you can't squeeze as much power as I need into a laptop' market with the Mac Pro. The Mac Mini is for the 'I can't afford a laptop' market, and this is growing steadily smaller. I wouldn't be surprised to see the AppleTV and Mac Mini product lines converge - a small box running OS X under the hood, but only exposing Safari, iPhoto and iTunes at the UI, with the ability to rip CDs, and maybe DVDs too. The only question is whether it would run x86 or ARM. The newer OMAP chips can decode H.264 in realtime, and are a lot cheaper than anything Intel has on offer.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25330189)

The Mac Mini is for the 'I can't afford a laptop' market, and this is growing steadily smaller.

And there's nothing for the 'I want a regular desktop' market. Which is most of the market, in the part of the market where there's actual competition. Nobody buys all-in-one PC, which is why the so-called "iMac killers" don't sell... the only reason the iMac sells as well as it does is because if you want OS X and reasonable performance for a reasonable price... well, there's no alternative.

machines (2, Interesting)

zogger (617870) | about 6 years ago | (#25330397)

A 500 buck cheap laptop today IS a cheap "all in one" from just a couple of years ago or so, which means it is perfectly fine except for most uses except extreme high end new games (mostly). You can still run a full size monitor and keyboard and a real mouse from them. Bonus extra screen and built in UPS that lasts for hours, not minutes!

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1, Troll)

ceoyoyo (59147) | about 6 years ago | (#25330519)

Apple doesn't WANT to play in the cutthroat competitive part of the market. They're quite happy taking the premium customers and leaving the "I want it as cheap as dirt no matter what" market to Dell et al. Which is smart: Apple is not a supply-chain-efficiency-trumps-all company like Dell / Walmart.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25330135)

The Mac desktop market has been left behind because Apple hasn't had a decent desktop since, oh, 1997 or so. The Mac mini is at best a quarter-hearted bone tossed to the market to avoid being completely left out.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (4, Interesting)

ducomputergeek (595742) | about 6 years ago | (#25330075)

I'll still buy mini's. I love the things. I've got 8, mostly still 1.25 and 1.42Ghz G4's that I've picked up off ebay. I have one hooked up to my 32" LCD TV as a media center (basically an Apple TV before there were apple TV's) and then use the others as a cheap rendering grid for Final Cut and Blender. Best part is they take up a shelf on my book case and don't drive up the powerbill that much nor heat the den as bad as the quadcore. (used to heat a bloody 1 bedroom apt with the thing.)

At work we've bought mini's to replace all the point of sale and desktop units. Worked out well since they already had monitors/touchscreens and keyboards and mice that were all USB.

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | about 6 years ago | (#25330159)

Someone who doesn't want a built-in screen and keyboard?

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25330255)

Someone who doesn't want a built-in screen and keyboard?

If someone like me, who doesn't want a built-in screen, and who was still upgrading his old G3 (Originally G3/233, finally G4/533 with 768MB and a Radeon 9200/128K) right up to the month before the mini came out because he didn't want an iMac, is asking "who's going to buy it for that price"... maybe that's not such a good answer any more?

Re:If they sell a laptop for $800... (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | about 6 years ago | (#25330443)

Perhaps not a good answer for you? A lot of people are using them as servers. I still plan to get two of them.

FYI (5, Informative)

ArcherB (796902) | about 6 years ago | (#25329677)

OpenCL is NOT a typo.

See HERE [wikipedia.org] :

OpenCL (Open Computing Language) is a language for programming heterogeneous data and task parallel computing across GPUs and CPUs. It was created by Apple in cooperation with others, and is based on C99.

The purpose is to recall OpenGL and OpenAL, which are open industry standards for 3D graphics and computer audio respectively, to extend the power of the GPU beyond graphics (GPGPU).

Apple has proposed OpenCL for Khronos Group where on June 16th 2008 Compute Working Group was formed for the standardization work.

OpenCL is scheduled to be introduced in Mac OS 10.6 ('Snow Leopard').According to the press release:

Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language (OpenCL), which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications. OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard.

Re:FYI (2, Insightful)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about 6 years ago | (#25329771)

Thank you. I did a double take myself until I goggled it. It's frustrating when posters assume new technology is automatically known by everyone. Don't they know the tinfoil impedes our clairvoyance abilities?

Re:FYI (1)

Gat0r30y (957941) | about 6 years ago | (#25329849)

Anecdotal Evidence (my one iMac) indicates that it is awesome by the way.

Re:FYI (3, Informative)

HTH NE1 (675604) | about 6 years ago | (#25330325)

OpenCL is NOT a typo.

See HERE [wikipedia.org]

Please update the fine summary to include the above informative link.

OpenCL? (0)

Anita Coney (648748) | about 6 years ago | (#25329687)

Open Cute Library? Open Cuddly Library? Open Cutting-our-prices-below-retail Library?

Re:OpenCL? (3, Informative)

aredubya74 (266988) | about 6 years ago | (#25329743)

You can browse /., but not Wikipedia? "OpenCL [wikipedia.org] (Open Computing Language) is a language for programming heterogeneous data and task parallel computing across GPUs and CPUs. It was created by Apple in cooperation with others, and is based on C99."

Re:OpenCL? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330053)

Since a graphics chip manufacturer was mentioned, I assumed "open GL" was intended instead of "open CL"

Re:OpenCL? (1)

Anita Coney (648748) | about 6 years ago | (#25330581)

Thanks, that was highly informative. Like an idiot, because it involved graphics, I ignorantly assumed it involved OpenGL.

Re:OpenCL? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329841)

They're taking a page out of Microsoft's book. Open Chair Launching

Other rumours... (-1, Troll)

grub (11606) | about 6 years ago | (#25329701)


What about the rumours of Apple-mandated glory holes in the washrooms at all corporate offices?

Re:Other rumours... (1)

MacColossus (932054) | about 6 years ago | (#25329845)

They were forced to install those as some employees were threatening to move to Redmond where they have been providing such benefits for years. Unfortunately, when making this demand they didn't realize they would be required to be on the rotation schedule to "man" said glory holes.

Nvidia & Apple aren't really know for reliabil (1, Interesting)

MSG (12810) | about 6 years ago | (#25329751)

Nvidia? That'd be just awesome. I can't think of any other way to make Apple hardware (already more prone to need warranty service than any other manufacturer's product that I can name) any less reliable. Go go gadget failure!

Re:Nvidia & Apple aren't really know for relia (2, Informative)

Microlith (54737) | about 6 years ago | (#25329829)

already more prone to need warranty service than any other manufacturer's product that I can name

No more prone to warranty service than every Dell I've ever had the displeasure of being asked to look at.

But people like to look closely at Apple for failure so they can bash them. More so than even Microsoft it seems.

To paraphrase Jon Stewart (2, Funny)

spazdor (902907) | about 6 years ago | (#25330137)

If you're defending Apple's hardware reliability by comparing it to Dell's...

"We're in bad shape, fellas."

Since when does Microsoft make laptops? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330411)

No more prone to warranty service than every Dell I've ever had the displeasure of being asked to look at. But people like to look closely at Apple for failure so they can bash them. More so than even Microsoft it seems.

Since when does Microsoft make laptops?

Re:Nvidia & Apple aren't really know for relia (1, Flamebait)

not already in use (972294) | about 6 years ago | (#25330525)

Oh puh-leeze, if there is any company that has been given a free pass on quality issues, it's Apple. Apple's hardware is no better than any other manufacturer and the OS is crap, but they made it pretty which is all that matters in the shallow minds of their consumers.

Re:Nvidia & Apple aren't really know for relia (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | about 6 years ago | (#25330209)

Do you have any stats to back up your claim that Apple is more prone to failure than any other manufacturer?

No time to answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329765)

too busy doing wget on apple.com and going though the dl with a fine-toothed comb looking for clues

--Apple fanboy

Shot in the arm (1)

Jim Hall (2985) | about 6 years ago | (#25329819)

Will NVIDIA's ailing chipset business get a shot in the arm next week?

I got my tetanus booster shot yesterday, with my usual side-effects (kind of like having the flu.) I can tell you, a "shot in the arm" for NVIDIA doesn't sound too good right now. :-)

"Brick"? ORLY? (1)

JackassJedi (1263412) | about 6 years ago | (#25329835)

The "Brick" is probably just a FUD campaign to scare off customers trying to unlock their phones >_>

A perfect prediction (2, Funny)

ppolitop (870365) | about 6 years ago | (#25329851)

Apple will either release a cheap macbook ($799) with discrete nvidia graphics, aluminum casing made with water-jets and lasers, netbook-sized, featuring an LED backlit screen -with good panel- OR thousands of people on the internet will start writing about how disappointed they are.

Re:A perfect prediction (1)

Llywelyn (531070) | about 6 years ago | (#25329993)

You forgot the much anticipated anti-gravity feature.

Re:A perfect prediction (1)

Altus (1034) | about 6 years ago | (#25330451)

incorrect logical operator.

Apple will release such a notebook AND thousands of people on the internet will start writing about how disappointed they are.

Shot in the arm? (5, Insightful)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about 6 years ago | (#25329853)

" Will NVIDIA's ailing chipset business get a shot in the arm next week?"

They'll need it since they just got a swift kick in the a@@ [apple.com]

Plausibility? (2, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 6 years ago | (#25329863)

While they do make for fun fanboy wank material, does anybody actually take the OMG PWERBOOKS WILL be carved by LASER ROBOTS!!! thing seriously? Material fabrication and shaping is an area that is steadily improving; but nothing points to Apple as having made any revolutionary advances in the area recently. And, barring such revolutionary advances, machining big chunks of material isn't exactly cheap. Cheaper than it used to be, sure, and definitely cheap enough to be cost effective for some applications; but hardly cost competitive with present techniques.

The other rumors seem markedly more plausible. 800 would be about the expected pricepoint for Apple's answer to the netbook(whether it will actually use atom and SSD or just be a low end macbook, I have no idea).

Re:Plausibility? (1)

mangu (126918) | about 6 years ago | (#25330033)

Material fabrication and shaping is an area that is steadily improving; but nothing points to Apple as having made any revolutionary advances in the area recently. And, barring such revolutionary advances, machining big chunks of material isn't exactly cheap.

Most probably, if the rumor is true, is that some die-cast part will have a small detail cut by a CO2 laser. That's standard industry practice and not so expensive, at least not for a notebook computer.

Stamping, drawing, etc. (3, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | about 6 years ago | (#25330571)

Right. Nobody makes mass-produced items by machining them out of solid metal. It's too slow, and you waste too much metal. That's what die-casting, drawing, and stamping are for. Laptop cases are thin enough that die-casting is probably overkill. Drawing or stamping is more likely, followed by a punching step. There might be a role for a laser if very small holes have to be made or some surface engraving is desired.

The NextCube case was a magnesium casting, which was sort of silly for a desktop device.

A cute idea for the case modding crowd would be industrial origami [industrialorigami.com] . This little-known technology works much better than you'd expect. It's a fun experience to take a flat, prepunched plate and hand-fold it into an electrical outlet box.

world wide crisis caused by windows vista failures (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25329951)

you've really done IT now fuddles.

iPhone update? (0, Flamebait)

pablo_max (626328) | about 6 years ago | (#25329971)

Perhaps it's a new iPhone update designed to turn all unlocked phones into "bricks".

Mac gaming? (-1, Flamebait)

rtechie (244489) | about 6 years ago | (#25329995)

There are people who use Macs for gaming? Really? Apple has done a pretty good job of killing 3D gaming on their platforms. I'd be pretty shocked if they invested the $100 per box a that a decent gaming video chipset would cost, I seriously doubt there are enough Mac users interested in 3D gaming to justify the cost. IOW I don't think there are a lot of Mac users crowing to play Crysis and if you're one of them you should give up.

Raising the bar for stock gfx is a positive move (2, Interesting)

eniacfoa (1203466) | about 6 years ago | (#25330057)

The best thing the computer gaming industry can do is not actually "give" people a reason to buy a console...they've already got their computer. Theres no doubt there are problems in the computer gaming world, but this move can only be a good thing for computer gamers. If PC's, laptop or desktop (and I mean "personal computers" in general) come standard with decent graphics solutions it will only increase the platforms attractiveness to average joe who cant install a graphics card himself or does not know they even exist. Many people I know were not even aware you can get control pads for computers. They like they fact that with a console you plug it in, turn it on and play. They know they will never be able to tinker around with the inside of a computer. And when I tell them about things like Spore DRM, they know they dont want to "rent" a game. IMHO, The big PC builders, Dell, HP etc..should give away a control pad with the purchase of a new PC and perhaps companies like EA could also give away some controllers with games that really need it. It doesn't have to be a fancy wifi one...just a cheap usb PS2 clone controller...if average joe knows the controllers exists, he knows he can upgrade...

Re:Raising the bar for stock gfx is a positive mov (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | about 6 years ago | (#25330263)

They like they fact that with a console you plug it in, turn it on and play.

It will be a while before the PC gaming industry can offer that.

Ick... BLOB (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330259)

For some of us who dual boot linux on Apple hardware, switching to NVidia isn't a positive development!

what site is this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330475)

A story with lasers and no-one makes the requisite joke about sea bass? [youtube.com] Did I stumble upon some other tech news site by mistake?

toasted nicely toasted.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25330495)

I wonder if they are going to work on the heat issues mac book pro's have. Mine gets hella hot

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