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Taking one for the team. (5, Interesting)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346885)

I guess you can say that 4chan kid took one for the team.

Had he not gained access (I don't use the word hack because he didn't hack anything) to her email account, this decision may not have come to be.

I guess you can say he took one for the team although that may not have been his original intentions.

Re:Taking one for the team. (4, Informative)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346937)

Before he was arrested, he posted that he was afraid and he basically bailed out. That's why he didn't back up the e-mails.

Now he's going to be seen the some cowering, harmless punk kid who half-wittedly exposed the blatant stupidity of Sarah Palin and the weaknesses of Yahoo and similar mail services.

Re:Taking one for the team. (4, Insightful)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346953)

But do you think that if he had not gained access to her emails, this decision would have been made? Regardless if he backed out, this still resulted in her being forced to keep her yahoo emails. This could come back to bite her if she doesn't remove those emails first.

Re:Taking one for the team. (4, Informative)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347107)

But do you think that if he had not gained access to her emails, this decision would have been made? Regardless if he backed out, this still resulted in her being forced to keep her yahoo emails. This could come back to bite her if she doesn't remove those emails first.

I believe there was already an effort underway by some Alaskans to gain access to the emails in the commercial accounts that Palin and her staff were using. The account that got hacked was actually her personal Yahoo account, not one of the ones normally used for official business.

Re:Taking one for the team. (4, Interesting)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347187)

Personal email accounts called gov.palin@yahoo.com and where the subjects clearly implied she was talking business?

Sorry, I don't believe for a second they were personal.

Re:Taking one for the team. (4, Informative)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347229)

Personal email accounts called gov.palin@yahoo.com and where the subjects clearly implied she was talking business?

Sorry, I don't believe for a second they were personal.

gov.palin@yahoo.com was her personal use account. gov.sarah@yahoo.com was the one that she was using for official state business [adn.com] .

Re:Taking one for the team. (5, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347381)

gov.palin@yahoo.com was her personal use account. gov.sarah@yahoo.com was the one that she was using for official state business.

It doesn't really matter what she says the account was used for, it is the actual usage that counts.
The list of subjects and correspondents from the so-called 'personal use account' that are posted on wikileaks is extremely incriminating.

I'm sure that the worst punishment she will receive will be a slap on the wrist, after all the president and his staff have already done far worse wrt to email hiding and nothing happened to them. But what it does do is expose 'politics as usual' for her, all claims to maverick status are pretty much null and void now.

Re:Taking one for the team. (2, Funny)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347441)

My point was that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference if she was using the gov.palin@yahoo.com account for state business, because we already know she was using the other one for it. Whether it's either or both, she was circumventing the security and accountability of the state system.

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347255)

So if I have Dr.Coward or Mr.Coward they can't possibly be personal?

Re:Taking one for the team. (3, Insightful)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347523)

It may or may not be but you're a private business that can do whatever you want.

Sarah Palin on the other hand is an employee of the the citizens of the US (some people forget this) and as such she shouldn't be hiding things from us just as it's expected that any employee shouldn't be hiding official business from their employer.

But it's not even about hiding things. Yahoo email isn't secure enough for someone who may have to be potentially passing around state security information.

Her supporters are more likely to be the type that live in fear of terrorists so why shouldn't they be applauded that she's doing something to make it easier for terrorists to find out potential information to aid in attacking her state which isn't that far fetched seeing how it's one of our resource rich states meaning that attacking it and destroying, for instance, the oil infrastructure could have a great effect on the whole nation.

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347549)

Being a Mister isn't a profession. Being a Doctor is a qualification, and it's permanent. Being a governor is a temporary position. Naming an email account after your current temporary position kinda implies it has something to do with being in that position.

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347073)

What weakness? The only "tools" he used was a web browser.

I just wished everyone would stop saying he hacked the account and tell the truth that he simply guessed the security question for password recovery and Palin choose something easy.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347227)

To be fair it depends on what you consider hacking when often a lot of hacking doesn't deal with using technology but social engineering and or using information about the person to get what they want.

I think the term shouldn't be used based on the fact the media is implying something else and probably doesn't fully understand. However the fact even even some of the "famous" hackers like Kevin Mitnick used social engineering to get people to give up information rather than using technology.

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25346959)

Can anyone actually cite a specific email from her Yahoo! account that would qualify as illegal, or is everyone just assuming that because she has a personal email account that she's breaking the law?

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347003)

No. But they'd still be complaining if she had used her work email account for sending family pictures and political discussions.

Re:Taking one for the team. (5, Insightful)

stinerman (812158) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347045)

Second paragraph FTA, friend:

The judge issued the orders at the request of Andree McLeod, an Anchorage activist whose pursuit of Palin's e-mails revealed that the governor did considerable state business from a Yahoo e-mail address -- an arrangement that avoided the safeguards and accountability of the state's secure e-mail system.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347135)

I still think that because of this kid, the news got out more and resulted in this decision being made. Seriously if it wasn't for this kid, I would have had no idea that any of this was going on.

Re:Taking one for the team. (2, Interesting)

stinerman (812158) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347245)

Certainly he is a reluctant hero.

Re:Taking one for the team. (-1, Troll)

kz45 (175825) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347389)

"Certainly he is a reluctant hero."

It actually just shows the mind-set of the people from the left.

Breaking the law = okay, as long as it is against the democratic party...which is scary if that same idea is applied to more situations..

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

konohitowa (220547) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347397)

And I think that the more these types of decisions are made, the more people will revert to using phones for communications. I'm unclear as to why email is treated so much differently than other forms of communication. It's not as if an email should be any more (or less) binding than a verbal communication.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

dnoyeb (547705) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347447)

I knew. And about "troopergate" as well. Political shows cover all of this.

Re:Taking one for the team. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347327)

"FTA friend"? You must be new here, let me fix that for you

Second paragraph FTFA, asshole

There you go and welcome to Slashdot

Re:Taking one for the team. (3, Insightful)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347051)

It's long been policy that government officials do not use non-government email and communications methods that circumvent the official logging of such communications. What she did was wrong, and in fact just as bad as the Whitehouse administration using non-whitehouse email services for official communications.

Though the guy who accessed her emails might be in trouble, I'd like to see a jury refuse to convict him. He should be seen as a whistleblower and protected, not prosecuted.

She hasn't even been elected to the Whitehouse yet and she has shown herself to be full of ineptitude and corruption. He is a hero in my book.

Re:Taking one for the team. (2, Informative)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347083)

I don't know if the term "Whistle blower" would be a good term to use. Whistle blowers typically KNOW something is going on that is illegal, I'm guessing this kids intentions were to be a giant douche but happened to stumble upon something. It's not like he knew that she was using a personal account to handle government related issues.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347249)

The kid who hacked her account is the son of a Democrat politician. I think he knew what he was doing.

Re:Taking one for the team. (3, Insightful)

Majik Sheff (930627) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347301)

No, his intentions were to cause problems for the McCain/Palin campaign in the form of an epic trolling. This kid stopped when he realized that the 4chan party van would be at his door within hours.

He messed up, plain and simple. Now the media is going to have a feeding frenzy because they FINALLY have something to try to stick on Governor Palin. If this had been Joe Biden doing this we would have never heard about it. In fact, reporters would be calling for the head of this 4channer on a pike while simultaneously scrambling to demonstrate that the e-mails were harmless/irrelevant/nonexistent.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347185)

Sorry, a whistle blower must be involved somehow and not a random third party. He would have had to had PRIOR knowledge about illegal activities BEFORE breaking into her account which he clearly did not. That kid deserves punishment. He's not a hero. He's a vigilante. Guess what, we don't allow or reward that behavior in this country. This is no different than the government executing a search without a warrant except it was some college kid who had no respect for the law.

Nobody has yet pointed to specific emails, not even stinerman above. Stinerman just quoted, condescendingly I might add, the article apparently assuming some activist we've never heard of is reputable. Until an actual email comes to light from her Yahoo! account, there is no proof and you're all just going on hearsay and conjecture. Again, that's not how we operate in this country.

Re:Taking one for the team. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347519)

or is everyone just assuming that because she has a personal email account that she's breaking the law?

It's a conspiracy. Anyone running against the first GNAA candidate is going to get bashed here.

I would have figured that most of us, slashdot being what is, would be too busy playing with ourselves whenever we saw her in media. At least, that's what I do.

Dang. Mom's coming down the stairs, got to go ...

Re:Taking one for the team. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347109)

He took one for the team alright - the wrong team.

The Yahoo account was the decoy. It was created only in April this year. It was left deliberately poorly guarded so someone *could* hack it, and find nothing incriminating.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347259)

Then it failed because it did have proof she was doing business with the account which also happened to have her title, gov (governor) in the email address.

Re:Taking one for the team. (1)

Deanalator (806515) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347211)

From the looks of it, the one who got in trouble was not the one that gained access, but the one that took the screenshots and returned the account back to Palin.

Palin (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25346891)

Will someone please assassinate this women. I'm tired of hearing about her in the media.

Does that inbred hick even know how? (-1, Flamebait)

dj42 (765300) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346893)

That would require her to have an IQ higher than a hippopotamus. I don't think we'll find her capable.

She is the kind of category 5 dumb that kills the country.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25346963)

This is the last chance for America to prove it's not totally made up of braindead, religious, nutbag trailer trash. If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (5, Funny)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347137)

If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada.

Why do you hate freedom?

Heard that before. (3, Insightful)

markdowling (448297) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347153)

In 2000, 2004...

www.cic.gc.ca

Go on, I dare you.

Re:Heard that before. (1)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347357)

In 2000, 2004...

www.cic.gc.ca

Go on, I dare you.

i've been looking at it.

I'm fresh off the podium though, they want people more advanced in their careers with proven economic self-sufficiency.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347175)

I'll help you back your bags, bitch.

Will any of our votes even count? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347215)

The electronic voting machines are even dumber and will do as their masters tell them. If anyone at Diebold etc should happen to have the hots for Palin then maybe you should start packing now. Any discretions in the polls will simply be blamed on the Bradley Effect. [wikipedia.org] The side effects of such could prove most interesting.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (-1, Troll)

kz45 (175825) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347433)

"This is the last chance for America to prove it's not totally made up of braindead, religious, nutbag trailer trash. If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada."

Funny you say that when here is a list of people that support obama:

-Paris hilton
-Britney spears
-Hugo Chavez

A shining example of intelligence and freedom.

I don't think we want you in america anyway..we will be happy to see you go.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (1)

boxfetish (903697) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347543)

"This is the last chance for America to prove it's not totally made up of braindead, religious, nutbag trailer trash. If the GOP steals this one, too..I'm moving to Canada."

Funny you say that when here is a list of people that support obama: -Paris hilton -Britney spears -Hugo Chavez A shining example of intelligence and freedom. I don't think we want you in america anyway..we will be happy to see you go.

There is a big difference between having brain-dead trash as a supporter and picking it as your running mate. If Obama chose any of them as his running mate, I wouldn't vote for him either. Did the "braindead, religious, nutbag, trailer trash" remark hit too close to home?

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (1)

Latinhypercube (935707) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347481)

Agreed. I'm not paying taxes to those bigoted idiots. America will not survive another republican raping.

Re:Does that inbred hick even know how? (3, Interesting)

Jorophose (1062218) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347489)

Um, yeah, about that. Do you mind coming now and voting against our idiots in charge? Or at least helping us mince them to minority? (I like the way that turns out; government oversteps, smacked into elections) ... because if Harper wins a majority I'm moving to the US...

It's not Flamebait if it's TRUE. Mod up parent. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25346967)

I take it the neocons and confused Republicans are out in full force modding today.

Mccain can't even check e-mail, and she used a fucking Yahoo account to do official business.

I wouldn't even do my personal business over Yahoo.

Re:It's not Flamebait if it's TRUE. Mod up parent. (1)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347535)

Horseshit... flamebait and trolls are the same no matter what side you fall on.

And we clearly can see where YOU fall on, Mr. Anon.

THIS IS CLEAR FLAMEBAIT!!!! MOD DOWN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347511)

This comment is getting "insightful" mods when it's nothing but childish name calling.

Take a look at the moderation categories: [slashdot.org] , calling someone an "inbred hick" fits into Flamebait refers to comments whose sole purpose is to insult and enrage perfectly.

This is obvious moderation abuse going on here when you mod insults up because it fits with your political bent. The moderator who did this should have their modding privileges revoked. Shameful.

Like hell she will... (1)

Darundal (891860) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346905)

...she will claim that the emails were already deleted, either by her, the "hacker," or by Yahoo.

Re:Like hell she will... (5, Informative)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346925)

Or she'll just claim the emails say the exact opposite of what they actually say, just like she did with the troopergate report [cbsnews.com] .

Re:Like hell she will... (1)

rossz (67331) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347387)

Buried in the troopergate report is a sentence that says what she did was within her constitutional powers. The ethics law she supposedly violated is written so broadly that ordering lunch could be a violation. Basically, any decision made is considered a violation if it makes you happy.

Anyone else in her position would have done the same thing, so I won't fault her for that. Her politics, on the other hand, are way too religiously conservative for my taste.

Re:Like hell she will... (5, Interesting)

Azarael (896715) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346933)

Until Yahoo gets subpoenaed to pull the email off of the back ups that they haven't deleted yet. Anyway, you could make a strong argument that given the circumstances, deleting the email would be considered destruction of evidence, which a US court _could_ hit you for.

Re:Like hell she will... (1)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346947)

I'm sure that Yahoo keeps some form of backups, and if they are court ordered to preserve those backups, they will. I've read several stories stating that deleted emails on Gmail are kept for months later in backups.

I'm sure that the emails are still being kept in their entirety, or close to it, somewhere at Yahoo.

Re:Like hell she will... (1)

CarneAzada (1382153) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347243)

Yahoo doesn't delete emails unless they're in the Spam folder for a certain amount of time. Maybe she'll claim her emails "accidentally" got moved to her Spam folder and that she "forgot" about them being in there.

Gmail (5, Funny)

Bicx (1042846) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346911)

She should just go with Gmail. Google will save her information whether she likes it or not.

Taking bets (4, Interesting)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346927)

What do you want to bet she went ahead and cleared out any potentially incriminating emails?

I wonder if Yahoo would be able to retrieve it or if they would even have to.

Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!!1 (3, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346971)

She set up email addresses known only to her husband? How heinous!

The super-secret one that got haxored? gov.palin@yahoo.com

Will the right-wing treachery know no bounds?

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (4, Insightful)

cliffski (65094) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347007)

why is a government employee sending emails on govt business through a free email account?
Why are taxpayers paying for the states computer infrastructure if she isn't using it?
Of course something dodgy is going on.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347061)

Can you please show us a specific e-mail that proves she was conducting government business via a free email service?

Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate criticisms to level at this woman, and this is not one of them. There is no proof.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (5, Insightful)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347133)

They've already seen boxes of emails [adn.com] from her aides to her Yahoo account. In fact, all but one email was sent to her gov.sarah@Yahoo.com account. That's the account she used for state business. It's not the account that got hacked.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347363)

I don't know why everyone thinks "specific email" means "news article".

The fact that the judge has ordered her to save her emails should be rather telling. He/she wants ACTUAL text from these emails to determine if she's actually done anything unlawful. This order does not prove that she has done anything wrong. Everybody else should want the same standard of proof because "I read it in a news article" simply isn't good enough.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347421)

I don't know why everyone thinks "specific email" means "news article".

The fact that the judge has ordered her to save her emails should be rather telling. He/she wants ACTUAL text from these emails to determine if she's actually done anything unlawful. This order does not prove that she has done anything wrong. Everybody else should want the same standard of proof because "I read it in a news article" simply isn't good enough.

Nobody, not even Palin, is denying that she used the commercial account for state business.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347293)

Yeah the draft letter to Schwarzenegger and emails to the Alaskan Department of Safety don't prove anything.

I'm not sure what you expect to find. She wasn't trading child porn. The whole point is no matter what you're talking about if it's business then it has to be backed up. It's already been proven she's not done that to anyone that has shown the slightest interest in this story.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (2, Informative)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347461)

Can you please show us a specific e-mail that proves she was conducting government business via a free email service?

Seriously, there are plenty of legitimate criticisms to level at this woman, and this is not one of them. There is no proof.

While there is no proof per se, there is extremely incriminating evidence already available thanks to the so-called 'punk' who is under indictment.
Here is a summary of subject lines and correspondents from said 'personal' account as reported on wikileaks.
Some people have tried to argue that these are not incriminating, some people see pink elephants too.

Subject: Draft letter to Governor Schwarzenegger / Container Tax
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: FW: Motor Fuel Tax Suspension
From: Meghan Stapleton (Press Secretary)

Subject: RE: Using Royalty Oil to Lower the Cost of Fuel for Alaskans
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)

Subject: Court of Appeals / Executive Director Parole Board / Boards and Commissions
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: RE: Please approve
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: Rural Wireless Service
From: McBride, Rhonda (Rural Advisor)

Subject: FW: DPS Employee Draft
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: Re: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: McAllister, William D (Communciations Director)

Subject: FW: DPS Personnel and Budget Issues
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: Court of Appeals Nominations
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: another records request
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)

Subject: RE: Scheduling - Week of 08.10.08
From: Mason, Janice L (Scheduling Assistant

Subject: FW: Capitalizing on coal reserves, Crow Tribe strikes deal for $7B
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)

Subject: Status report
From: Ruaro, Randall P (Deputy Chief of Staff)

Subject: FW: Special session press release
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)

Subject: Followup.
From: Colberg, Talis J (Alaska Attorney General)

Subject: FW: CONFIDENTIAL Ethics Matter
From: Nizich, Michael A (Chief of Staff)

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (4, Interesting)

Derling Whirvish (636322) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347077)

why is a government employee sending emails on govt business through a free email account?

Because it's illegal to send campaign messages, partisan political messages, or e-mails dealing with RNC activities through a government account.

Re:Sooper secret email address !!! omgroflcopter!! (1)

Ieatsyou (1383005) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347035)

She set up email addresses known only to her husband? How heinous!

The super-secret one that got haxored? gov.palin@yahoo.com

Will the right-wing treachery know no bounds?

michael moore's latest film. I can see it now; "Palin-gate and how it raped our country"

Saving the emails is irrelevant (5, Funny)

GISGEOLOGYGEEK (708023) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346983)

Why would Palin care to delete any emails, or even try to hide them?

Palin is a young earth creationist. She has no understanding of Evidence.

Re:Saving the emails is irrelevant (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347473)

Those emails were put there by GOP to test our faith.

Wait, she had private email... (1, Insightful)

kenh (9056) | more than 5 years ago | (#25346985)

She had private email, known only to her husband and children? OMG!

She should absolutely use her official email for all correspondence, including campaign and private (non-government) correspondence... Except, oh yeah, the acceptable usage policies of the Alaskan government forbid the use of government computers for personal and campaign uses...

This woman is out of control and must be stopped - she has to break the law like the rest of us do, then we can get her for that!

Re:Wait, she had private email... (5, Insightful)

stinerman (812158) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347011)

Good sir Ken,

The problem is that she used the personal email for official correspondence, which is not all that legal.

The personal account is required for campaign and private correspondence.

HTH

Re:Wait, she had private email... (1)

cliffski (65094) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347027)

you missed out the words "and officials".
is this the same woman who apparently pressured a state employee to sack someone to keep her relatives happy?
but apparently she can see russia from her house, so its fine...

Re:Wait, she had private email... (1)

EastCoastSurfer (310758) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347261)

is this the same woman who apparently pressured a state employee to sack someone to keep her relatives happy?

I'm not defending her at all, but this sort of cronyism happens all the time. Boards and CEOs, politicians, kids and their parents, police, etc... If this sort of thing bothers you that much then there probably isn't anyone left that you can, in good conscience, vote for. This country is in a sad state of affairs and in all reality neither candidate that we've been given the choice between is going to fix anything.

And used it illegally for official correspondance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347169)

Stop defending the moron.

Would you use a Yahoo account to conduct, say, a $20,000,000,000.00 merger? Hell no. Well, Government officials need to take official correspondence that seriously.

Re:Wait, she had private email... (3, Informative)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347349)

Husband children and close aides.

Selective reading clearly shows someone's bias...or lack of comprehension. ;)

Privacy (1)

Haoie (1277294) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347001)

Not that I'm for the ditz, but isn't everyone entitled to their privacy? Even online.

As in, being free to delete whatever non-work emails come to you.

yeah (2, Informative)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347197)

Emphasis is on NON-WORK
Apparently she used the yahoo box for work too.
I wasn't sure about this earlier, but the court must be able to tell apart work from private mail.

Re:Privacy (5, Informative)

Danse (1026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347205)

Not that I'm for the ditz, but isn't everyone entitled to their privacy? Even online.

As in, being free to delete whatever non-work emails come to you.

The problem is that she was using a commercial account for state business [adn.com] , which circumvents the security and accountability of using official state email services. She essentially made state business subject to Yahoo's terms of service rather than the laws of Alaska. Her official email is supposed to be public record, but the state can't access or archive her commercial account.

Re:Privacy (1)

CarneAzada (1382153) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347281)

Who uses a Yahoo account for their work email address? I thought most work email addresses were with whatever company you're working for, or in Palin's case, the Alaska state government. Although I could be wrong...

There's no need for a hyphen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347021)

...in "set up."

Grammar matters.

Re:There's no need for a hyphen... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347291)

to YOU. grammar matters.

the rest of us wish you'd die in a fire already.

Once again... (-1, Flamebait)

JimboFBX (1097277) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347065)

Another topic reduces into a Slashdot circle jerk.

Re:Once again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347191)

what do expect from a bunch of people that fantasize about eating Barack Obama's turds?

Re: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347121)

Maybe she also has an email account at yahoo.ru and connects to free wifi from across the border.

Why is this bad? (1)

darkfnord23 (696608) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347221)

I despise Palin, and it's hilarious that someone got in just by guessing her 'security' questions, but why is the secret email with other officials bad? Shouldn't secret communications always be an option? She could have just had meetings in closed conference rooms, what's the difference if it's done over the 'net?

Re:Why is this bad? (5, Insightful)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347303)

Shouldn't secret communications always be an option?

No, it shouldn't be. Not when a public official is acting in their official capacity. If it's not classified enough so that Yahoo mail wouldn't be a security breach, it's not so classified that the public shouldn't know about it.

And no, I don't buy into the theory that advisers give better advice if the know that the public won't know what they say.

Re:Why is this bad? (4, Funny)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347403)

Gee golly, that stuff about Guantanamo Bay just didn't need to be known for us honest simple god loving folk. Gosh darnit learning about water boarding has put our country at risk!

Hopefully we'll get good old secret police to operate on their own terms and put this here country back in shape.

More reasons Palin isn't ready for VP... (5, Insightful)

EtherealFlaim (768450) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347257)

Not only was she stupid enough to have her yahoo account password resettable by an outsider, she was stupid enough to conduct state business on this and other non-state-secured e-mail accounts.

I'm sorry, but anyone who doesn't realize that in order to be safe it ALWAYS important to assume that your emails are immediately and fully in the hands of your worst enemies is hopelessly naive. Besides the sketchily legal issue of conducting state business over unsecure email, she also copied her husband on some of it.

Seriously Palin? Talk about it over the dinner table. Sending the email to your hubbie sends it over unsecure servers in the internet proper where they could be read in transit by any number of unruly or dangerous individuals. And that's assuming that she was sending it from a state-secured email on state-secured servers, which she obviously didn't at least some of the time.

The scary part now is that if she were to pull the same stuff in the whitehouse, there would be terrorists and spies trying to get ahold of national secrets, not just the inner workings of a state government. And I think we can all agree that the resources they have at their disposal are frightening.

I'm much happier with her gambling with Alaskan politics than National Security.

Re:More reasons Palin isn't ready for VP... (3, Interesting)

phanboy_iv (1006659) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347311)

Unfortunately, I suspect that the vast majority of Americans on the internet are indeed this naive, Palin is just a highly visible example. Sad, but true.

Re:More reasons Palin isn't ready for VP... (1)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347463)

She is extremely photogenic and has a beautiful smile with even, white teeth.

Do you REALLY think that the majority of Americans are going to be able to see past that?

I don't.

Palin will win the election for McCain.

Re:More reasons Palin isn't ready for VP... (1)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347555)

Well, when Joe Biden said Roosevelt got on TV to reassure Americans... I suspect we are surrounded by morons...

it's all in what you choose to ignore....

Oh my (2, Funny)

FornaxChemica (968594) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347265)

Sarah Palin, her husband, and officials had set up email accounts known only to each other.

sarah_for_vp@hotmail.com

Can anyone post a source? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347269)

Just one simple link will do. Any takers?

I have yet to see a single (not one) source that shows she was using this account for government business. If this is the case, why are there no links to copied of said email(s)? If this is all speculation, then for the love of god, shut the fuck up till there is proof.

Don't assume. Thank you.

The hacker was the son of a politician, btw (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347465)

This wasn't some naive kid, his dad's a Tennessee state representative (Democrat):

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Oct09/0,4670,PalinHacked,00.html

One Letter said: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25347527)

Dearest Mrs. Palin:

You are such a hot babe! wanna be my vice pres?
Sincerely Mr. McCain.

Good for Goose and Gander (2, Interesting)

moteyalpha (1228680) | more than 5 years ago | (#25347553)

GGG://hoist.by.ones.own.petard.gov
There was an article here on a bad search warrant that led to a criminal. So it seems, that no matter how badly the process is flawed, the ends justify the means and I think it is appropriate that if every single thing I do is scrutinized in or out of context, then the same should be true for the politicians who are more likely to do a great deal of damage, simply because they control many more resources, that are supposedly owned by everybody.
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