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Web Singletons?

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the magrathea-dot-com dept.

The Internet 254

tcmb writes "There are an uncounted number of web mail and picture sharing services, there are more than enough web sites for online bookmark management and friend-finding, but as far as I know there is only one Internet Archive. Which are the true web singletons, services that exist only once in this form?" And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

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What? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406651)

Seriously what?

Re:What? (3, Informative)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406925)

Well a singleton is a software design pattern designed to allow exactly zero or one instances of a class to exist (typically a database connection). But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot. Especially since as soon as anyone creates something new and vaguely useful, a dozen clones pop up within a week and do it better (though tend to fail anyways, since they never get the initial market share or publicity of the original - see: twitter). The only organizations that could create a "singleton" web app, if you really feel the need to misuse the term that thoroughly, are major patent trolls.

Re:What? (2, Insightful)

aegl (1041528) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407075)

"The only organizations that could create a "singleton" web app, if you really feel the need to misuse the term that thoroughly, are major patent trolls"

Patent trolls don't create anything (except pain, suffering and economic hardship for their victims).

Re:What? (2, Insightful)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407095)

Well that's the beauty of the singleton design pattern - you can create exactly zero instances if you want. Which in the context of patent trolls is definitely a bad thing, but it still technically fits the misused term.

Re:What? (4, Insightful)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407749)

On the subject of patent trolls, Blackboard fits this, despite being such a horrible piece of crap.

Which twitter? (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407243)

Especially since as soon as anyone creates something new and vaguely useful, a dozen clones pop up within a week and do it better (though tend to fail anyways, since they never get the initial market share or publicity of the original - see: twitter).

Are you talking about the microblogging service with a dozen clones or the Slashdot poster with a dozen clones [slashdot.org] ?

Re:What? (4, Informative)

mollymoo (202721) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407245)

Well a singleton is a software design pattern designed to allow exactly zero or one instances of a class to exist (typically a database connection). But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot.

The word "singleton" wasn't invented to describe the design pattern, douchebag. It means there is only one of something and is used correctly in TFS.

Re:What? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407491)

He isn't a douchebag, just a simpleton.

Re:What? (1, Insightful)

dubbreak (623656) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407629)

The word "singleton" wasn't invented to describe the design pattern, douchebag. It means there is only one of something and is used correctly in TFS.

Lemme guess. Your a singleton (an offspring born alone).

While the term may be used correctly it doesn't address the target audience correctly. For the slashdot community the title is quite misleading. A title of "Web Singletons?" and it's not about the design pattern? Not cool or geeky. Wouldn't "unique web apps?" or something else better describe what the article is about?

I know I was disappointed when I found out the article wasn't (directly) related to coding and by the responses I've seen so far it looks as though I'm not projecting.

Re:What? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407251)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/singleton

Re:What? (1)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407441)

Then why, as the summary itself asks, is there only one internet archive? Granted there's nothing stopping another archive from opening up, but yet... it hasn't happened. For one reason or another, it's not spawning clones.

I think it's simply because nobody's figured out how to make a buck off it. Once that happens, there'll be hundreds of them.

Re:What? (4, Insightful)

Minwee (522556) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407571)

But whoever thought the term applies to the services provided by web apps is just an idiot.

Some day, I'm going to have to introduce you to a new game called 'Bridge', something called 'set theory' or perhaps just to the concept of 'twins'. Then you might learn a few whole new meanings for that word and wonder why you were such an idiot about it before.

Re:What? (5, Insightful)

AmberBlackCat (829689) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407591)

The good part for the Internet Archive is they can't rip off the idea and do it better because they'd have to go back in time to get the data.

Re:What? (2, Funny)

therufus (677843) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407659)

Singleton is a township in the Hunter Valley region of New South Wales, Australia. Famous for its wineries and mining. It's a nice place. Friendly people. And it has one of the worlds largest sundials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singleton,_New_South_Wales [wikipedia.org]

Here's a semi-unique time waster for 'ya ... (0, Offtopic)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406663)

Watching and turning a bunch of halloween decorations on & off ... ;-) [komar.org]

Re:Here's a semi-unique time waster for 'ya ... (4, Insightful)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407593)

Singletons are the loneliest objects that I've ever seen...
Factories can be as bad as a Singletons
They're the loneliest objects since the Singleton

False is the saddest value that you'll ever know,
True, it's the saddest value that you'll ever know...

For timewasting (2, Informative)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406665)

Try http://www.sickipedia.org/ [sickipedia.org]

Or not.

Re:For timewasting (2, Funny)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407019)

Yep. That was a waste of time. Although it may contain the most euphemisms I've seen for vagina in a long time.

Re:For timewasting (2)

xaxa (988988) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407267)

I've seen someone driven to tears because someone else was reading out the jokes from that site.

(There's taking the joke the wrong way, and then there's "fuck you all, I hate you, you don't know what you're making fun of, I was abused by my uncle when I was eight".)

gnaa (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406667)

How about GNAA?

Re:gnaa (2, Insightful)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407151)

There is no shortage of idiots on the web.

Re:gnaa (3, Insightful)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407479)

There is no shortage of idiots.

Fixed that for you.

Zombo (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406673)

Everyone knows about Zombo [zombo.com] of course. You could waste hours there without even thinking about it.

Re: "For large values of once" (2, Insightful)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406745)

Sorry AC.

You missed http://www.obmoz.com/ [obmoz.com]

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(Can you talk to Mods?
"Hi Mod. I know I am Informative, but since neither of the sites are, save your juicy Mod point for something better.")

The grand-daddy of them all... (4, Insightful)

Nick Driver (238034) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407195)

...is still alive! [badgerbadgerbadger.com]

Re:Zombo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407709)

The page source code used to do shoutouts to tons of people, but most are gone now. I wonder if anyone ever had a complete list?

There can be only one... (4, Funny)

statemachine (840641) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406693)

Timecube.

Unique and a waste of time.

Re:There can be only one... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406861)

Wrong; not a singleton: http://www.thymecube.com/ [thymecube.com]

zombo.com (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407275)

Zombo com [zombo.com]

You can do anything at Zombo com.

Re:There can be only one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407397)

Timecube.

Unique and a waste of (time)^3.

There. Fixed that for you.

What site is this again? (5, Funny)

John Whitley (6067) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406697)

And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

looks up at teh awesome bar (cough).

looks at uid.

sighs.

Re:What site is this again? (1)

dr_strang (32799) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406813)

looks up at teh awesome bar (cough).

looks at uid.

sighs.

I know what you mean.

Re:What site is this again? (1)

Bookem Danno (84959) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407131)

Damn kids! GIT OFF MAH LAWN!

Re:What site is this again? (1)

nbvb (32836) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407149)

Hey whipper-snapper, get off MY lawn!

Re:What site is this again? (1)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407261)

Yo.

Re:What site is this again? (1)

Binder (2829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407519)

I don't get it. :P

Re:What site is this again? (2, Funny)

Brad (3629) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407727)

It is one of those new-fangled words the youth use. See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yo [urbandictionary.com]

Now, keep it down over there or I'll call the cops.

Slashdot (5, Insightful)

zobier (585066) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406713)

I'd say /. is relatively unique.

Re:Slashdot (1)

symes (835608) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406757)

And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

Erm... /. ? Oh, and b3ta [b3ta.com]

Re:Slashdot (1)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406767)

Depends on how tightly you define unique since there are numerous other web sites where (technical) stories are posted by editorial choice from user-submissions and then commented on ... but yea, Slashdot certainly is the granddaddy.

I imagine that the Internet abhors a singularity like nature abhors a vacuum ... stuff will rush in/pop up to fill it.

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I hope it's unique! (5, Funny)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406743)

There's one site that I certainly hope is unique: goatse.cx.

Re:I hope it's unique! (3, Insightful)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406961)

Tubgirl, lemonparty, meatspin, 2G1C, etc. The implementation may vary a bit, but goatse certainly isn't the only shock site out there.

Re:I hope it's unique! (5, Funny)

tsalmark (1265778) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407575)

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I am not Googling meatspin.

No, no, you got it wrong (5, Funny)

omuls are tasty (1321759) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407705)

It's "fool me once, shame on... shame on you; fool me you can't get fooled again".

Re:I hope it's unique! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406963)

Which, thankfully, has never been mirrored.

Re:I hope it's unique! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407099)

And that site is a way better for time-wasting than IMDB and Wikipedia put together!

Yeah, for time wasting (5, Funny)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406747)

You can't beat /.

Re:Yeah, for time wasting (1)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407033)

It's true.

I'm Sorry, but . . . (1)

arizwebfoot (1228544) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406753)

IMDB has solved a lot of disagreements between my wife and I - and in short order - she's usually right.

--
Oh Well, Bad Karma and all . . .

Re:I'm Sorry, but . . . (1)

TinFoilMan (1371973) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406771)

Wives tend to do that.
Win, I mean.

Re:I'm Sorry, but . . . (4, Funny)

treeves (963993) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407143)

Well yeah, because even if you win, you lose.

Usually, I'd rather be right than happy.

Re:I'm Sorry, but . . . (5, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407647)

Wives tend to do that.
Win, I mean.

They do if you have any sense.

Try Wikia (3, Informative)

Haoie (1277294) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406763)

A lot of stuff that doesn't quite make it onto the regular Wiki is found here.

It also hosts some very concise, fictional world Wikis, like Wookiepedia [Star Wars]. and Memory Alpha [Star Trek].

Re:Try Wikia (1)

wideBlueSkies (618979) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407597)

Just wanted to mention that the Battlestar Wiki is quite good as well.

Qik (3, Interesting)

CaptainTux (658655) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406773)

www.qik.com allows you to stream live video and audio from your cell phone. As far as I know, it's the only service on the internet like this.

You mean like Google? (3, Funny)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406789)

I'm surprised no one else has tried to create a search engine for the internets...

Singletons (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406797)

I hear that eharmony is a good place to find singletons.

Uh... (5, Funny)

meeotch (524339) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406831)

And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

You must be new here.

TinEye.com (4, Interesting)

kinabrew (1053930) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406849)

TinEye.com [tineye.com] is an image search engine that works like this:

It analyzes images it finds online, by looking at their pixels and dimensions.

To search, a user uploads an image, and TinEye returns a list of links to similar images, said images' dimensions, and links to the pages on which said images are posted.

It's useful for finding originals from photoshopped images and for finding images in a series if you have only one image and know it's part of a series.

And no, I don't work for them(but I do use the site almost daily).

Re:TinEye.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407153)

I don't believe that you don't work for them. They barely index much of the net to make it useful. Not to mention there are tons of other sites that do something similar.

Re:TinEye.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407503)

Is there, by any chance a similar service for pornography? You know, aside from, /s/.

Re:TinEye.com (1)

svnt (697929) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407565)

It's useful for .. finding images in a series if you have only one image and know it's part of a series.

Now when in the hell would I ever use th-

Oh. Nice.

but I do use the site almost daily

That's a lot of image series. You do realize it is available in video form, too?

Re:TinEye.com (1)

AmberBlackCat (829689) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407615)

It's only a "singleton" because it's new. But it is pretty nice. If somebody would make a desktop search that could do that, they'd blow Google and everybody else out of the water.

Nope, not google... (2, Interesting)

recharged95 (782975) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406851)

But the Open Directory Project [dmoz.org] .

Re:Nope, not google... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407677)

Hmmm. Exactly what does "In partnership with AOL Search" mean? That wasn't there last time I looked at dmoz.

4chan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406855)

That is all.

whitehouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406867)

.com^H^H^H.gov is pretty singular. Not that I've been there in the past 8 years.

Re:whitehouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407049)

[whitehouse].com^H^H^H.gov is pretty singular. Not that I've been there in the past 8 years.

whitehouse..gov [whitehouse..gov] ? I get a page load error. That's hardly unique.

Re:whitehouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407443)

just out of curiosity, did whitehouse.com used to be a porn site? Can anyone out there confirm this? I have a vague recollection of going to whitehouse.com and there was a porn site there, must have been, like, 8-10 years ago.

SourceForge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406897)

SourceForge stands pretty much singular in its function.

Re:SourceForge (1)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407277)

Not really. There's berliOS, Google Code, Launchpad, and probably others I can't name off the top of my head.

Re:SourceForge (2, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407295)

SourceForge stands pretty much singular in its function.

Um... Freshmeat.net?

you can do anything at zombo.com, anything at all (-1, Redundant)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#25406903)

the unattainable is unknown

http://zombo.com/ [zombo.com]

welcome to zombo.com

welcome to zombo.com!

get ready white people (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406955)

obama is coming to jam his dick in your ass and if you don't like it him and his bitches will claim that you're a racist.

4 years when speaking out against the government will get you labeled as a klans man. hope you faggots enjoy it.

tvtropes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25406987)

I don't know for sure if it is a Singleton, but I don't know that I have ever seen a site as humorous and time consuming as tvtropes [tvtropes.org] . If nothing else it is a great way to lose a lot of time (assuming you watch television or play video games).

Re:tvtropes (1)

Kelson (129150) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407053)

Seconded. I've on several occasions jumped over to TV Tropes just to look up a single term, then middle-clicked my way through a page, middle-clicked my way through another page, and 3 hours later found myself with 20 tabs open just on that site. And of course I can't bring myself to close them without reading them...

Archive.org isn't unique (2, Informative)

pasamio (737659) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407023)

Check out Australia's web archive run by the National Library of Australia: http://pandora.nla.gov.au/ [nla.gov.au]

It may not be the same size yet, but many of the web app clones have the same issue as well. Its scope is also different as well - aiming at Australian content, but again many clones limit their scope as well.

Similar to IMDB for other media (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407027)

AllMusic [allmusic.com]
Grand Comic Book Database [comics.org]

the twitter monologues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407039)

You can waste hours [slashdot.org] reading this stuff.

Oh wait...

Re:the twitter monologues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407103)

I am twerritropetoonixhandedchop or one of his friends and I approve this message.

Zombo.com (1)

DoorFrame (22108) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407063)

Zombo.com

OurCampaigns (2, Interesting)

Elder Entropist (788485) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407111)

Well, to toot my own horn:

There are lots of political sites, but my site OurCampaigns [ourcampaigns.com] is a bit different than anything out there.

It is custom programmed and is a structured international view of politics at allows user contribution. Lot of current and historical race result data, going back hundreds of years. High level to local level. Right now a half million political races. News items, endorsements, candidate information, party information.

wheresgeorge.com (4, Informative)

treeves (963993) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407169)

was/is probably a "singleton".

I lost interest when it seemed like very few of the bills I entered were later tracked.

My homepage (1)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407193)

My homepage is unique, because it's a one stop shop for all things me (*).

(*) All those other websites just don't talk about myself as well as I do (**).

(**) I could tell you where it is, but I'd have to kill you (***).

(***) Yes, it's that special. Accept no substitutes.

Snopes (2, Insightful)

Darth Cider (320236) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407205)

Snopes.com [snopes.com] is singular and good for wasting time.

TV Tropes (4, Insightful)

roystgnr (4015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407241)

And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?

Google for "TV Tropes". No, I'm not giving you a URL. If I had to go find the URL, I might accidentally look at the URL. And then I'd end up clicking some of the links there. But there's no way to read through a Trope page without being curious enough to click on at least two of the links there, and then two of the links on each of those, and then... well, I just put dinner in the oven and I do not want to suddenly snap out of a fascinated reverie an hour from now when the smoke from my kitchen burning down reminds me that I'm starving.

Re:TV Tropes (1)

AndresCP (979913) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407711)

Damn you! Now I need to go back to TVtropes and see if anything has changed! Aaargh!

But does it contain itself? (1)

Domini (103836) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407269)

... sorry, it had to be asked.

And if not is it a set of all sets that do not contain themselves?

Re:But does it contain itself? (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407843)

Make a list of all singleton web sites.
Make a second list of all web sites that are not singletons.
The first and last entries on this list are unique by the fact that they are the first and last non-singleton web sites. Move them to the first list. Repeat.

All web sites are singletons.
All things are notable.
Q.E.D.: All your base are belong to us.

One, One, One (2, Interesting)

icepick72 (834363) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407311)

Singleton:
- a single object (as distinguished from a pair)
- a set containing a single member
- In mathematics, a singleton is a set with exactly one element. For example, the set {0} is a singleton.

One good reason for finding "singletons" on the web (unique web properties) might be to find an entry point for competition where the market is not yet saturated. At the same time it's often hard to compete against something that's firmly established (e.g. David and Goliath). Maybe submitter has a obsessive compulsive disorder and feels a strong need to find one of everything on the web. Speculation. Maybe I'm a jackass.

Time-wasting singleton? (3, Funny)

actionbastard (1206160) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407369)

"And does anything approach the singular time-wasting abilities of IMDB or Wikipedia?"
This does -idle.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] .

space-time continuum monitoring (3, Interesting)

sugarmotor (621907) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407455)

There is only one space-time continuum monitoring service, http://space-time.net/ [space-time.net]

Stephan

LHC destruction monitor (5, Funny)

ninjapiratemonkey (968710) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407617)

AFAIK, this is the only site which will tell you if the LHC has destroyed the world yet. You can waste hours of time by checking it frequently, making sure that you're not dead yet! http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ [hasthelarg...rldyet.com] and the source is fairly humourous as well.

MovieLandmarks (1)

coderpunk (930756) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407651)

Its a work in progress to collect all the filming locations/landmarks for TV and Movies into a google maps mashup. http://movielandmarks.com/ [movielandmarks.com]

Google Groups? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25407813)

While there might be some for individual newsgroups, I'm not aware of any other Usenet archives of a remotely comparable scale.

iana.net (1)

thebiss (164488) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407819)

Certainly the root of all names and numbers would qualify. All others are just delegates.

Surprise (-1, Flamebait)

lars_boegild_thomsen (632303) | more than 5 years ago | (#25407927)

I read through the first half of the comments, and this being /. I was extremely surprised not to see a single mention of Spankwire [spankwire.com] . I mean - come on - free porn :)

I'll be very disappointed if this one doesn't get moderated "informative"

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