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Mobile Firefox Alpha 1 Released

ScuttleMonkey posted about 6 years ago | from the smaller-better-deal dept.

Mozilla 148

An anonymous reader writes "Today Mozilla released development builds of its next mobile browser, Fennec 1.0 Alpha 1. 'The last eight milestones were building up to getting a stable browser with an easy to use interface. We really want to get Fennec in front of as many people as possible and get feedback.' To that end, Fennec has been made available for the desktop on Windows, Mac and Linux."

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Apple users (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415299)

...are FAGS.

Re:Apple users (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415383)

I honestly expected the anti-Firefox trolls to crawl out from under their bridges, but who woke you?

Re:Apple users (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415593)

They sleep under the same bridge. Give him a break. He's a little groggy and couldn't bother to read the headline.

Re:Apple users (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415657)

Wow, the mods have no sense of humour today. It must have been that presidential thing last night...

Windows Linux Mac. (-1, Offtopic)

jellomizer (103300) | about 6 years ago | (#25415317)

None of those OS's are really mobile platforms. Well they are an arn't.
Windows Isn't.
Linux can be but stripped down to the bare bones.
the same with OS X.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (3, Informative)

Dolda2000 (759023) | about 6 years ago | (#25415355)

Indeed, that's exactly what the summary said. They made it "available for the desktop", "to get Fennec in front of as many people as possible".

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (2, Informative)

blackest_k (761565) | about 6 years ago | (#25416939)

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/ [mozilla.org]
posted using fennec on aspire one running ubuntu
untar and click on fennec :)

it's a little strange scrolling is done by click and drag but its working wit fine on here

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (3, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 6 years ago | (#25415399)

No, those aren't mobile platforms. But if you'd read the page, you'd see that they're making these available to help get the widest number of users to provide feedback re: the interface, as well as making it available for people to begin developing plugins for it. Of course, that will probably also lower the S/N ratio re: valid feedback.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (0, Flamebait)

larry bagina (561269) | about 6 years ago | (#25415757)

Linux is a kernel, retard.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (1)

Achromatic1978 (916097) | about 6 years ago | (#25416141)

Well, I'm not really digging it ... "Targeted at Nokia N800/810 devices, with Windows Mobile a gleam in a developers eye, no plans to develop for Symbian, and iPhone not mentioned" ... nice big market share there.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (2, Informative)

J05H (5625) | about 6 years ago | (#25416357)

especially stupid considering Symbian S60 makes up well over half of the smartphone market worldwide - 64% last time I checked. Not that you'll notice this if you live in the States, land of Blackberry and iPhone, but it dominates the EMEA and APAC markets - I've been using several S60 phones from Samsung and Nokia for a few months for testing and they frankly blow everything else away in terms of usability (holy crap it's a PHONE FIRST), interface design (clean and extensible) and as convergence devices.

One problem with a Firefox browser for S60 is that it's playing catch-up to the likes of Skyfire and the integrated browser. It would be nice to see Firefox on smartphones though.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | about 6 years ago | (#25416521)

While this is true,by putting the browser out for desktops it gives users a chance to "try before they buy" and decide if Fennec is right for them. It also gives them a chance to report problem areas in the controls as well as ask for features. Besides there isn't anything wrong with having a lightweight browser for your desktop. For those that are curious I just download the Fennec for Windows and it is as simple as unzip and use.

Oh and for those that hate to RTFA(this is slashdot,after all) the link for the Windows version is here [mozilla.org] Linux here [mozilla.org] and Mac here [mozilla.org] .

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 6 years ago | (#25417175)

eh? Both linux and OSX are used as mobile platforms. There's no way to develop Fennec for mobile OSX, though.

IIRC WinCE has a subset of the Win32 API.

So probably the platform glue layer for each of these desktop releases isn't astonishingly different than its mobile version.

Re:Windows Linux Mac. (1)

dhasenan (758719) | about 6 years ago | (#25418057)

You can, in fact, develop Fennec for mobile OSX. Any version released through the iphone app store could not include Javascript capabilities, though -- people could write their applications in js and release them through other channels in that case.

I'm impressed (-1)

Dolda2000 (759023) | about 6 years ago | (#25415325)

That's some typo in the headline. Or at least, I'm assuming that it's supposed to be "Fennec", and not "Firefox". I'm a bit impressed that that got through.

Re:I'm impressed (0, Offtopic)

Dolda2000 (759023) | about 6 years ago | (#25415377)

Oh, I take that back. My bad. I read that "Mozilla Firefox", rather that "Mobile Firefox", as it actually said. It might still be arguable that "Mobile Gecko" would be a lot more accurate, though.

Re:I'm impressed (NOT) (1)

gmezero (4448) | about 6 years ago | (#25416089)

Of course, how can this be considered mobile without Palm listed. Pffft!

Re:I'm impressed (5, Interesting)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 6 years ago | (#25415393)

'Fennec' is a small fox with big ears [wikipedia.org] . For extra geek cred it's nocturnal. It's not cute enough for a mascot by a long ways, but it does sort of fit.

Re:I'm impressed (4, Insightful)

Spazztastic (814296) | about 6 years ago | (#25415645)

It's not cute enough for a mascot by a long ways, but it does sort of fit.

How is this [wikipedia.org] NOT adorable?

Re:I'm impressed (4, Funny)

Firehed (942385) | about 6 years ago | (#25415699)

A sleeping mascot? Goes great with the speed of mobile data connections I guess.

Re:I'm impressed (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415905)

The little shits are very fast and quiet when moving. I have one in my house that belongs to my girlfriend. I don't play with her much because she is too aggressive with me but she plays fairly nice with my girlfriend. Because of her very sharp teeth and her tendency to communicate with me using her mouth, I nicknamed her "the piranha". FYI, the fennec fox is the only fox the may be legally kept as a pet in the US.

Re:I'm impressed (4, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25416223)

I have one in my house that belongs to my girlfriend. I don't play with her much because she is too aggressive with me

And this, boys and girls, is an example of the fact that pronouns do not always enhance readability.

Re:I'm impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416765)

Actually, both the fox and the girlfriend can be aggressive ;) I read that post a couple of times before posting and still missed the pronoun issue.

Re:I'm impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415827)

An African fox with large ears... Sort of like Obama, eh?

Re:I'm impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416047)

Canadian, eh?

Re:I'm impressed (2, Insightful)

humina (603463) | about 6 years ago | (#25415427)

Classic Slashdot: You did not read the article. The webpage is plastered with the word fennec because...that's what it's called. And you got modded up to 4 which means the moderators did not read the article.

Re:I'm impressed (1)

orclevegam (940336) | about 6 years ago | (#25415865)

He wasn't talking about Fennec in the webpage, he was talking about Firefox in the title. The title should have been "Mozilla releases Fennec 1.0 Alpha 1", or alternatively "Mozilla releases mobile browser based on Firefox". Also, it's impossible to RTFA now, the site has been slashdotted.

Re:I'm impressed (5, Funny)

clone53421 (1310749) | about 6 years ago | (#25415511)

Slashdot | Mobile Firefox Alpha 1 Released - Mozilla Firefox

Dude... the " - Mozilla Firefox" at the end is because that's what you're using... :P

Re:I'm impressed (1, Redundant)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 6 years ago | (#25415821)

Ohhhhh, okay. That explains it. I was wondering why all the stories around here seem to be talking about Mozilla Firefox.

Re:I'm impressed (1)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | about 6 years ago | (#25415847)

I wish I had mod points for ya buddy. ROFL

Re:I'm impressed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416463)

Amazing - Good show sir!

Re:I'm impressed (2, Funny)

dotancohen (1015143) | about 6 years ago | (#25416767)

Slashdot | Mobile Firefox Alpha 1 Released - Mozilla Firefox

Dude... the " - Mozilla Firefox" at the end is because that's what you're using... :P

Mine says Vimperator, you insensitive clod!

Re:I'm impressed (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#25417115)

What "- Mozilla Firefox"? It says "- Minefield".

OS X Intel Only (3, Informative)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 6 years ago | (#25415329)

The OS X version is Intel only. This probably won't affect most of you, but it does kinda suck for those of us still on PPC machines.

Re:OS X Intel Only (0, Offtopic)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 6 years ago | (#25415607)

It especially sucks if you're waiting for the Mac mini update. It's been over a year now, and the last update was a simple CPU speed bump.

Re:OS X Intel Only (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 6 years ago | (#25416327)

It especially sucks if you're waiting for the Mac mini update. It's been over a year now, and the last update was a simple CPU speed bump.

The white Macbook is $50 more than the faster Mini. Not bad for a screen and UPS.

sweet (-1, Offtopic)

kingsteve612 (1241114) | about 6 years ago | (#25415351)

Hey that's pretty cool. I have never used the interweb before until today and i can go to websites and post comments about random crap. i already looked at 8 porn sites, downloaded some viruses, and hacked bank accounts. now i can do it all from my cell phone?! AMAZING!

Mobile browser for desktop OS?! (1, Interesting)

fruity_pebbles (568822) | about 6 years ago | (#25415421)

I'm really interested in trying Fennec on my actual mobile device. Oh well, I'm glad to see they're making progress.

Re:Mobile browser for desktop OS?! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415519)

Fennec A1 is available for the Nokia N800/N810 internet tablet. The desktop versions are merely for those people who don't have a targeted mobile device, but want to see the browser

Re:Mobile browser for desktop OS?! (2, Informative)

felipekk (1007591) | about 6 years ago | (#25415671)

Or developers. From the blog entry:

"That's right, you can install Fennec on your Windows, OS X or Linux desktop too! We want you to be able to experiment, provide feedback, write add-ons and generally get involved with the Mozilla Mobile project, even if you don't have a device."

The usual problem with Linux binaries (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 6 years ago | (#25415775)

And of course a RHEL4 desktop won't run it, wrong glibc version. When will people learn, either package it properly for a small set of distros or static link everything like netscape used to do.

Re:The usual problem with Linux binaries (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 6 years ago | (#25416383)

When will people learn, either package it properly for a small set of distros or static link everything like netscape used to do.

There probably aren't many people running an outdated desktop linux disto who want to try out new alpha web browsers.

One would assume you could recompile it, no?

Re:The usual problem with Linux binaries (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | about 6 years ago | (#25416883)

> There probably aren't many people running an outdated desktop linux disto
> who want to try out new alpha web browsers.

Not a good assumption. There are good arguments for a STABLE load on a machine you depend on. For example, I have tried updating that machine to Fedora 9 but I get subtle file corruption when reading files on the RAID array.

But the bigger point is I'm sure I;m not alone in tiring of this attitude that if you aren't running sid or rawhide you can't be a developer. You should only be running those if you are developing packages destined for inclusion in a distro downstream from one of those.

And this Windows Treadmill attitude is widespread. Flash 10 just came out. So of course Flash 9 disappeared from Adobe's yum repo. So now if you are running RHEL3 or RHEL4 you are SOL, everything has to be upgraded all the time. When the hell does any actual work get done during this continual update, debug, repeat cycle?

And debug is the word here. Has anyone actually done a distro upgrade on a heavily used and customized (lots of out of distro source packages carefully ported in, built and installed, stuff just installed via make install, etc), machine that didn't lose a few days productivity? Not to mention learning to cope with the ever higher levels of braindamage in GNOME an upgrade brings.

Re:The usual problem with Linux binaries (1)

Hatta (162192) | about 6 years ago | (#25417431)

Has anyone actually done a distro upgrade on a heavily used and customized (lots of out of distro source packages carefully ported in, built and installed, stuff just installed via make install, etc), machine that didn't lose a few days productivity?

Updating debian has always been smooth as silk for me.

Re:The usual problem with Linux binaries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25417771)

You're running RHEL4 on your iPhone? You know this browser isn't for desktops right?

Illin in the panicillin? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415423)

Is she illin in the panicillin?
Is she chillin in the panicillin?
Is she stealin in the panicillin?
Is she feelin in the panicillin?

Panka panka

Is she liable no suitifiable pliable style is so suitifiable
Is she liable no suitifiable im not on trial but its suitifiable
Is she reliable no suitifiable not just viable but real suitifiable
Is she try-able no suitifiable lying in the aisle im real suitifiable

Is she spillin in the panicillin?
Is she squealin in the panicillin?
Is she feelin in the panicillin?
Is she trillin in the panicillin?

Panka panka

Is it libel? no suitifiable pliable style is so suitifiable
Is it a style? no suitifiable im not on trial but its suitifiable
Is it a mile? no suitifiable not just viable but real suitifiable
Is it wild? no suitifiable lying in the aisle im real suitifiable

iphone (1)

pak9rabid (1011935) | about 6 years ago | (#25415461)

I'd like to see a version for the iPhone, although I'm sure Apple would never let it see the light of day.

Re:iphone (4, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | about 6 years ago | (#25415619)

How about a version that only works at night then?

Re:iphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415653)

The joke's on you: software can't even "see."

Re:iphone (1)

supernova_hq (1014429) | about 6 years ago | (#25417235)

Why does something need to see to only work at night? Never heard of a clock huh...

Re:iphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25417603)

"The joke's on you: software can't even "see.""

Sure it can, all it needs is a photoresistor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoresistor).

Re:iphone (1)

Tiles (993306) | about 6 years ago | (#25415707)

Well, the fennec [wikipedia.org] is nocturnal...

Re:iphone (1)

EvilMonkeySlayer (826044) | about 6 years ago | (#25415751)

That's an understatement, Apple could do with the competition. Whilst Safari is the best mobile browser at the moment it is extremely crash happy. More so on the 2.1 update.

I average 2 Safari crashes a day on my iphone.

Re:iphone (1)

lysergic.acid (845423) | about 6 years ago | (#25417027)

my PSP has got you beat. i get out of memory errors every 10-15 minutes. and you have to restart the entire PSP to continue browsing normally. if you go to a resource intensive site it runs out of memory even faster.

i don't know if they fixed this problem on the PSP slim with the memory upgrade, but even a PSP fat ought to be able to surf the web adequately by paging memory to the memory stick. but Sony seems to care more about shutting down PSP homebrew than fixing the PSP's software or actually putting out firmware updates that add value to the PSP. ironically, if there's any chance of a decent browser being developed for the PSP fat, it'll be from the homebrew community.

it would be awesome to be able to run Fennec on the PSP, but seeing as it's being targeted at a system with 4 times the RAM that the PSP-1000 has (the Nokia N800 has 128MB of RAM), it's probably not likely to happen.

Re:iphone (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 6 years ago | (#25416647)

I'd like to see a version for the iPhone, although I'm sure Apple would never let it see the light of day.

It's expressly forbidden by the terms of the iPhone SDK license.

Here's a nickel, kid, get a real platform.

slashdot brings down another blog (1)

shareme (897587) | about 6 years ago | (#25415465)

Slashdot traffic again brings down another blog.. For our next trick can we try the whitehouse.gov website?

Re:slashdot brings down another blog (4, Funny)

mustafap (452510) | about 6 years ago | (#25416167)

Full Fennec details here : http://www.whitehouse.gov/ [whitehouse.gov]

Dead (2, Informative)

Mehetabelo (1388177) | about 6 years ago | (#25415507)

And, in classic slashdot style, the site is dead before I make it there.

Re:Dead (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | about 6 years ago | (#25415719)

WFM

More Standard compliant? (5, Interesting)

Skifreemonster (1388187) | about 6 years ago | (#25415615)

Fennec scores higher on the Acid3 test than Firefox 3.0.3. Well at least running on a windows PC

Re:More Standard compliant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415679)

It does score 89/100 because it's using the gecko 1.9.1 trunk builds, while Firefox 3.0.x is on teh 1.9.0 branch.
The Firefox trunk nightly builds currently score 93/100 by the way.

Re:More Standard compliant? (5, Informative)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | about 6 years ago | (#25415711)

And Firefox 3.1 nightlies score better than that, around 93/94 if I recall correctly. Fennec is running nightly versions of Gecko.

Do or will plugins eventually work ? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415625)

Are the firefox plugins going to work for fennec ?

It would be great if adblock plus would work !

Re:Do or will plugins eventually work ? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | about 6 years ago | (#25416053)

No, what would be really great would be a browser with Flash. Yes, ad-block is great, but most modern OSes (and mobile ones if you hack them enough) have a hosts file that can be configured to block ads. But without Flash you take a way a good portion of the web.

Re:Do or will plugins eventually work ? (1)

DarthJohn (1160097) | about 6 years ago | (#25417013)

No, what would be really great would be a browser with Flash. Yes, ad-block is great, but most modern OSes (and mobile ones if you hack them enough) have a hosts file that can be configured to block ads. But without Flash you take a way a good portion of the web.

No, what would be unfortunately necessary would be a browser with Flash. Yes, ad-block is great and I want it too, but am not sure about it downloading updates for filters. Without Flash you take away an evil portion of the web.

Amen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416079)

I really want to be able to run adblock, flashblock, and no script to keep my screen from being overtaken with adds on sites that don't have a mobile version... or even on those that do.

Yes but ... (0, Flamebait)

beansprouts (1380955) | about 6 years ago | (#25415661)

Is it available in the App Store?

Firefennec? (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25415665)

Or is Fennec solar powered? That would explain the ears.

Re:Firefennec? (2, Informative)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#25417239)

No, Fennec is a (small) species of fox [wikipedia.org] that has large ears

Re:Firefennec? (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25417539)

Yes, I know. Obviously being too indirect today. My Andres Serrano reference in the Little Big Planet missed too.

Slow as balls on the N800 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415697)

Installed Fennec onto my N800 (OS2008). Slow as hell. I didn't think anything could be slower than MicroB, but they've done it. Plus you can't trigger the text input fields, I'm assuming they think everyone has an N810 with the built in keyboard.

Can't load gmail (which they even do in their example video). Sits and spins, and pops up a warning saying that a script is making Fennec unresponsive. Oh well.

Having said that, if you can get it to actually load and render a page, it does it really fast.

One problem - selecting page name. (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25415737)

Switching between the name and title when you edit the name/title widget is nice, but it means if you want to copy the name of the page you won't be able to select it.

Second problem - no proxy settings? (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25415761)

At least I couldn't find them in the preferences page.

Re:Second problem - no proxy settings? (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#25416803)

This is rather important. Sure, phones don't often use proxies, but netbooks and wifi-enabled PDAs might.

Re:Second problem - no proxy settings? (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25417075)

Oh yes... when I had an iPaq with wifi, I definitely needed proxy support. And some phones use wifi for cheaper access or higher speeds.

Re:Second problem - no proxy settings? (1)

guest (3772) | about 6 years ago | (#25418273)

There are proxy settings but they're hidden in about:config.

Set network.proxy.type to 1 and then set network.proxy.http to whatever IP address you prefer and set network.proxy.http_port to the port number. They may choose to keep these settings hidden, as most people probably won't need them, so long as they keep these settings available in about:config, those users that need them will be able to use them.

Minimo2 (2, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | about 6 years ago | (#25415773)

I'm curious to see how this performs on a real mobile device compared to Minimo [wikipedia.org] . Wikipedia seems to indicate it's being pushed by the same developer, Doug Turner. I was never able to get even runnable performance out of Minimo, but there's definitely a market for a better mobile browser. I just updated my Q9m to WM 6.1 and Pocket IE is still garbage. The other alternatives like Skyfire & Iris show potential, but they are not there yet.

Re:Minimo2 (3, Informative)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | about 6 years ago | (#25415967)

I'm curious to see how this performs on a real mobile device compared to Minimo [wikipedia.org] . Wikipedia seems to indicate it's being pushed by the same developer, Doug Turner. I was never able to get even runnable performance out of Minimo, but there's definitely a market for a better mobile browser. I just updated my Q9m to WM 6.1 and Pocket IE is still garbage. The other alternatives like Skyfire & Iris show potential, but they are not there yet.

Opera Mobile's not a bad browser at all.

Re:Minimo2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25418169)

The webkit based browser that comes with some Nokia phones (N95/96 at least) isn't bad either, not as fast as Opera Mobile, but some pages render better. Does anyone know if it has a name?

Re:Minimo2 (1)

Spazztastic (814296) | about 6 years ago | (#25415969)

On my old HP iPaq Minimo crashed a lot. On my Samsung Blackjack it crashed a lot. I haven't tried it on WM6 yet, but I have a feeling Minimo will go in the same pattern.

Not like I use it for anything heavy, all I do is read /. on it and bash quotes.

However, I'll be sure to try Fennec.

Re:Minimo2 (1)

repvik (96666) | about 6 years ago | (#25416003)

Opera Mobile is pretty nice (albeit not entirely free).
Safari on the iPhone is also pretty good, except it crashes at random points all over.

Re:Minimo2 (1)

smoker2 (750216) | about 6 years ago | (#25416097)

entirely free ?
It's not free at all, in any way.

Re:Minimo2 (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 6 years ago | (#25416331)

It's not free at all, in any way.

Indeed, but it's best in class. Sometimes good things are worth the money.

Re:Minimo2 (1)

afidel (530433) | about 6 years ago | (#25416805)

Have you tried opera mini? On the Blackberry it's definitely better than the OS4 browser.

Re:Minimo2 (1)

supernova_hq (1014429) | about 6 years ago | (#25417257)

Don't forget microb (mozilla build for maemo).

Article already Slashdotted (1)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | about 6 years ago | (#25415791)

The linked article is already Slashdotted due to "exceeding bandwidth" or some such thing. No surprise there as it's a blog.

Going to the official Firefox site and searching for "fennec" matched nothing. Yea! With it being so easy to get, I'll be trying it "real soon now".

Re:Article already Slashdotted (3, Informative)

jDeepbeep (913892) | about 6 years ago | (#25415909)

Going to the official Firefox site and searching for "fennec" matched nothing. Yea! With it being so easy to get, I'll be trying it "real soon now".

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/FennecVision [mozilla.org]

Re:Article already Slashdotted (2, Informative)

jDeepbeep (913892) | about 6 years ago | (#25415947)

Going to the official Firefox site and searching for "fennec" matched nothing. Yea! With it being so easy to get, I'll be trying it "real soon now".

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/FennecVision [mozilla.org]

Here's the actual FTP links http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/fennec-1.0a1.en-US.win32.zip [mozilla.org] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/fennec-1.0a1.en-US.mac.dmg [mozilla.org] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/fennec-1.0a1.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 [mozilla.org]

Re:Article already Slashdotted (2, Informative)

orclevegam (940336) | about 6 years ago | (#25415949)

After some poking around and a bit of google-fu I found this: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mobile/ [mozilla.org] which has all the builds. There's also instructions in installing it on a Nokia N810 here [mozilla.org] .

Fennec, Chrome, Desktop, etc (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25415891)

So let me get this straight. I'd like Chrome (beta) for the desktop on Linux and OSX and can't get it, but I can get Fennec (alpha), a mobile browser, running on my desktop w/ Linux and OSX.

Posting from Fennec in Windows (4, Interesting)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | about 6 years ago | (#25415897)

So far it seems pretty interesting, although there's definitely bugs (eg. my text disappears when I'm not typing a character), but hey it's an alpha. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes, although the interface is not geared towards Windows Mobile Smartphone, it seems to be best suited for a touchscreen at the moment.

On a side note, I didn't see any interface to specify a proxy, but I was able to set one through about:config. I have to go through an auto proxy so I just set the autoconfig_url to the URL of my proxy and the network.proxy.type to 2.

Fennec (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416449)

Is it another kind of panda?

This is really very interesting. (2, Interesting)

Millennium (2451) | about 6 years ago | (#25416557)

The minimal UI would be perfect not just for mobile phones, but for other small-screen devices (I'd use it on my eee, for instance). This is obviously not the core market for Fennec, but I'd love to see an extension which added back just a few "desktop/laptop" conveniences:

  • Keyboard shortcuts, at least for Back, Forward, Reload, Open Location, Find (and Find Again), Print, Cut, Copy, and Paste.
  • Scrolling around in pages, not just vertically but also horizontally.
  • Some means to highlight, cut/copy, and paste.

Again, I'm not necessarily saying these should be folded into the core Fennec distro; "full" computers aren't its main market. But an extension would be nice.

Slate usage. (1)

saintlupus (227599) | about 6 years ago | (#25416789)

Neat-o. I'll have to install this on my slate-style Tablet PC; It's a fun toy, but you never realize how much you middle-click-for-new-tab until you can't any more.

I've sort of worked around it with Tab Mix Plus to open _everything_ in new tabs, but something more touchscreen centric would be nice.

--saint

Good support (1)

elfguy (22889) | about 6 years ago | (#25416961)

I'm impressed, my site works in it. While my web site validates and works in every desktop browser, not a single mobile browser so far (Pocket IE, Symbian browser, Opera Mini) supports it, but Fennec does.

I do have to say I'm not a fan of the back and forward button being hidden however.

N810 users beware. (2, Informative)

supernova_hq (1014429) | about 6 years ago | (#25417297)

I've tried installing this a couple times on an N810 (last week) and both times it completely messed up xulrunner. Couldn't remove it, update it, reinstall it, nothin'. If you are planning on testing it on an N810, make sure you are prepared to backup and flash if necessary (I was still able to use the device after xulrunner died, but my other browser, microb stopped working).

Big deal? (2, Insightful)

grimmy (75458) | about 6 years ago | (#25417725)

Windows mobile devices have the largest share of the market, why release it for a few specific nokia models if they want the largest number of users giving them feedback?

The desktop release don't count, desktop users will install it run it twice, think "ohh that's cute" and never run it again.

How about those of us stuck with pocketIE and opera's offerings both of which fail miserable on something as simple as a redirect.

Great (1)

dvh.tosomja (1235032) | about 6 years ago | (#25417923)

My long-developed XUL application is completely screwed, the functionality in Fenek is at 30% maybe. For example, main menu doesn't work, image onclick event can't popup menu (or popup menu doesn't work at all?), all comboboxes are missing (but textboxes are there), mouse scroll button in tree doesn't work (cause it zoom the whole page), and now it completely crashed. While considering my last bugreport with MINIMAL TEST CASE [mozilla.org] was submited and completely ignored for 5 months, I think it's time to move on.

Just installed it on my n800 (2, Informative)

dbc001 (541033) | about 6 years ago | (#25418055)

The one-click install didn't work, but the step-by-step instructions worked fine.

It seems to run pretty slow. Can't seem to enter any text into the address bar.

Disabled Javascript and now I can enter a URL - not sure if that's related.

It needs a lot of work (it is an alpha) but it's exciting that they've gotten this far.
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