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LittleBigPlanet Delayed Due To Qur'an-Sampling Audio

ScuttleMonkey posted about 6 years ago | from the always-check-your-sources dept.

Sony 995

Several readers have pointed out that Sony's much-awaited LittleBigPlanet has hit a snag and will be delayed worldwide. The delay came after it was discovered that a song licensed for use in the soundtrack contained audio samples from the Qur'an. All advanced copies sent to retailers for the target release of October 21 in North America, 22 in PAL territories, and 24 in the UK and Ireland, have been recalled. "The post, by user 'Solid08', indicates of the specific references in the composition: 'In the 18th second: "kollo nafsin tha'iqatol mawt", literally: "Every soul shall have the taste of death' ... almost immediately after, in the 27th second: "kollo man alaiha fan", literally: "All that is on earth will perish."'"

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Peace (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416361)

A religion of peace...

Re:Peace (4, Insightful)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | about 6 years ago | (#25416455)

Another look at the meaning is clearly only stating the obvious: Just as every life has a beginning it also too must have an end. It does not say that everyone must perish in a cruel, agonizing, bloody death. Even the bible has some pretty dark lines surpassing this one.

Re:Peace (5, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | about 6 years ago | (#25416683)

Yeah, that line "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" scares the hell out of corporate executives. "Blessed are the peacemakers" give Republicans the willies, and "Blessed are the pure at heart" terrorizes the Democrats.

Re:Peace (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416713)

and for everyone else, there's the old testament

Re:Peace (2, Informative)

OeLeWaPpErKe (412765) | about 6 years ago | (#25416793)

Actually the quran is quite specific in which souls need to have a cruel, agonizing and bloody death. It also clearly specifies how they're to be administered : every muslim is to "fight, kill and die" as a slave of allah until there isn't a single non-muslim left.

And if you want demonstrations, you could read about the religious massacres in the description of the "prophet's" life.

It's even got paedophilia. Somehow I don't think it's very politically correct, all these inconvenient truths.

Re:Peace (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | about 6 years ago | (#25416833)

Yeah, but crazy Islamo-nutballs don't come blow up your building when you quote the Bible.

Re:Peace (5, Insightful)

Moryath (553296) | about 6 years ago | (#25416479)

Hmm... do religions of peace say things like:

(Sura 2:191-193) "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

(Sura 8:12) "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

(Sura 8:59-60) "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

(Sura 9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and fought jihad with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."

(Sura 9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

(Sura 9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them"

(Sura 9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and fight jihad with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."

Yeah. I'm sure they were worried about "offending" people whose idea of responding is to kill anyone who "offends" them. Like, say, Theo Van Gogh or Salman Rushdie.

Sad day to see this happen.

Re:Peace (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416711)

Lo! they cannot escape.

I read that as "LOL, they cannot escape." Never thought I'd do a double-take on the Qur'an.

Re:Peace (3, Funny)

ciderVisor (1318765) | about 6 years ago | (#25416751)

Lo! they cannot escape.

I misread that as "Lol".

4114h00 4kH bR !!!

Re:Peace (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416825)

"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." (Leviticus 26:22)

"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18)

"The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)

"When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

"You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53)

"The Lord said to Joshua [...] 'you are to hamstring their horses.' " (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6)

"... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." (Judges 21:10-12)

"This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass .... And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." (1 Samuel 15:3,7-8)

"The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their women with child ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)

"A curse on him who is lax in doing the LORD's work!
A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!" (Jeremiah 48:10)

Re:Peace (2, Insightful)

Etrias (1121031) | about 6 years ago | (#25416835)

Oh, come on. You've read the Old Testament, right? There's sections there are pretty violent as well, just as unforgiving. I'm not going to find these quotes for you because I don't have the time now. I don't have them conveniently wrapped together in a chain email which I'm guessing you pulled this from.

+1 for selective quotes +5 for unnecessary incendiary quoting -5 questionable modding

ANd? (4, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 6 years ago | (#25416381)

So what if it has that there?

Re:ANd? (5, Interesting)

DanTheManMS (1039636) | about 6 years ago | (#25416503)

So what if it has that there?

Perhaps they merely do not wish to anger potential customers now that it's been discovered and publicized. This isn't the first time it's happened or anything. For example, look at Zelda Ocarina of Time: original versions of the cartridge contained Muslim chanting in the background of the fire temple music, which was taken out of later copies. Later re-releases of the game on the Gamecube also changed some symbols in-game that resembled the crescent moon. No real reason to remove these things other than to prevent conflicts among the audience.

Re:ANd? (3, Insightful)

Somegeek (624100) | about 6 years ago | (#25416571)

Sony is pulling it to avoid offending anyone who would not like phrases from the Qur'an used in association with such a game.

In my mind Sony is actually going above and beyond to do the correct thing here. (Never thought that I would find myself typing those words.) I still believe they have a long way to go to make up for all of the DRM crap that they have pulled in the past though.

Re:ANd? (5, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 6 years ago | (#25416703)

Cowering from bullies is not the right thing to do.

Re:ANd? (4, Insightful)

Somegeek (624100) | about 6 years ago | (#25416821)

I have to see this as Sony paying respect, not as them knuckling under to threats. I would like to think that they would do the same thing if it was a passage from a Buddhist text which had offended Buddhists with its inclusion. (ashamed that I can't name a Buddhist text without looking it up)

Re:ANd? (0, Flamebait)

Golddess (1361003) | about 6 years ago | (#25416777)

Oh? So are you saying that Sony pulling the God of War pre-order content (and indeed, any future God of War content) would be ok because I find God of War to be a blasphemous use of the term "God of War", insulting my own God of War, Ares Himself?

Of course, I guess the major difference between me and the followers of the Qur'an, is that a small number of the Qur'an followers have shown themselves to be terrorists, and doing shit like this will appease them, because appeasement always works.

Re:ANd? (3, Insightful)

alta (1263) | about 6 years ago | (#25416851)

Yeah, use anything from the Qur'an in jest or light, and you can expect a bombing of your headquarters by muslims. Make fun of the Bible or Christians and expect to be prayed for, but never told you can't do it.

Which is the religion of peace again?

Doing this because you don't want offend all of your customers is probably the right thing. Bowing down to terrorists isn't. Which do you think they're doing? Personally, I sure wouldn't want to hear anything from the Qur'an in a game I'm playing.

Terrorist Messages (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416385)

Qur'an == Terrorist bible.

So what? (5, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | about 6 years ago | (#25416391)

The Qur'an is out of copyright by now, so what's the problem?

Maybe the specific recording isn't. (1)

ciroknight (601098) | about 6 years ago | (#25416423)

Toumani Diabate's "Symmetrical Orchestra" sounds rather recent to me. But I could be wrong, feel free to find out.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416447)

I think the problem is less copyright lawyers than suicide bombers in this case. Frankly, I'd be surprised if it managed to generate more than some angry speeches from the small group of guys who were already going "death to the infidels!", but like the Danish cartoons people have to pay attention because occasionally they'll send someone over with a pound of dynamite on his chest and blow up your front office (or more often, just some random cafe somewhere).

Re:So what? (0, Troll)

elrous0 (869638) | about 6 years ago | (#25416491)

"Religion of Peace" indeed.

Re:So what? (-1, Troll)

plague3106 (71849) | about 6 years ago | (#25416515)

I can find such passages in the bible as well.. whats you're point? Or are you just trolling?

Re:So what? (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | about 6 years ago | (#25416575)

Yeah, but the West left most of their worst religious-nutball-inspired-violence behind hundreds of years ago. Muslims are still doing it.

Re:So what? (5, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | about 6 years ago | (#25416667)

Yeah, but the West left most of their worst religious-nutball-inspired-violence behind hundreds of years ago. Muslims are still doing it.

Most but not all. I wouldn't want my religion being judged based on abortion clinic bombers.

It is fair to say that the Islamic world has a serious problem with violent extremists, a problem that must be addressed.

To mockingly say "Religion of Peace indeed", and imply that Muslims in general are engaging in violence, is not only unfair it's bigotry.

Re:So what? (0, Troll)

Fex303 (557896) | about 6 years ago | (#25416675)

Yeah, but the West left most of their worst religious-nutball-inspired-violence behind hundreds of years ago.

Oh really? [iraqbodycount.org]

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416699)

When was the last time a so-called "christian" got off his lazy, bible-thumping ass and went and blew up a building without applying for the proper permits first?

It's just not as much of an issue.

Re:So what? (4, Insightful)

Kohath (38547) | about 6 years ago | (#25416745)

Please link to some news stories of Christian suicide bombings. Then your silly "everybody does it" argument might at least be factual. (It's still a ridiculous argument, even if everybody did do it -- but everybody doesn't.)

Re:So what? (4, Insightful)

Moryath (553296) | about 6 years ago | (#25416553)

The problem seems to be worry that you'll get the same sort of reaction from a group of people whose religion tells them to burn effigies over cartoons, or stick knives in people's chests, for "offending" them.

Just look at what happened to Theo Van Gogh and Salman Rushdie, to name just two.

Now ask yourself whether that's really a "religion of peace" or something else. I can understand why the Little Big Planet studios were afraid of this.

The fuck is going on here? (5, Insightful)

M1rth (790840) | about 6 years ago | (#25416867)

How many slashdot trolls had mod points today?

Seriously - this has meaning. The guess that they pulled the game because of fears over rioting/threats or actual violence is a pretty good guess given the "objectionable" content that's being removed from the game.

Would you think they'd have removed it for a couple of lines in Yiddish? Or a Biblical quotation, or a Celtic pagan quotation? You can be 100% sure that they wouldn't.

Give Parent Poster his karma back. This wasn't "flamebait."

And we reproduced the lines here? (3, Insightful)

Cheeko (165493) | about 6 years ago | (#25416397)

I thought writing the lines in text was a reproduction just as much as the audio? Yet /. just posted them?

Or maybe I'm just confused and there is a difference between writing them and the audio copy.

Re:And we reproduced the lines here? (4, Interesting)

eln (21727) | about 6 years ago | (#25416563)

Why would reproducing a work that has long since been in the public domain be a problem? If it is, hundreds of publishers are in deep shit.

From what the article says, it seems some Muslims got offended at their holy scriptures being put to music. So, Sony is bowing to a few fundamentalist Muslims to keep from generating any bad press about how they offend Islam or whatever.

Personally, I think if they're going to start bowing down to any fringe group that complains on the Internet, they're going to have a hard time releasing any games ever again.

People are so scared of "terrorists", and associate Islam so closely with those terrorists, that they are scared to death of offending anyone that calls themselves a Muslim. This just makes it much easier for the radical wing of Islam to not only be heard, but to wield influence out of proportion with their numbers. Of course, you could argue the same thing has been done with regard to the more radical wings of Christianity in other spheres as well.

Re:And we reproduced the lines here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416785)

It's not "bowing down." It's more like "bending over" without Vaseline.

Re:And we reproduced the lines here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416809)

From what the article says, it seems some Muslims got offended at their holy scriptures being put to music. So, Sony is bowing to a few fundamentalist Muslims to keep from generating any bad press about how they offend Islam or whatever.

So, Sony is bowing to a few fundamentalist Muslims to keep from having offices blown up, employees stabbed to death, or executives heads cut off.

Fixed that for you.

Uh Oh. (5, Insightful)

flitty (981864) | about 6 years ago | (#25416403)

Delayed PS3 game + angry gamers + Anon. internet forums + Western distrust of Islam = A lot of wasted /. Moderator points slaying trolls.

FUCK ISLAM (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416437)

Slashdot advocates the beheading of the filthy, evil JIZZlamic savages.

Re:Uh Oh. (1)

Hitto (913085) | about 6 years ago | (#25416619)

or, Free publicity on the muslims' backs?

Re:Uh Oh. (3, Interesting)

Moryath (553296) | about 6 years ago | (#25416679)

Delayed PS3 game + angry gamers + Anon. internet forums + people who've actually studied Islam as opposed to trolls who don't know shit about it but flame about people "misunderstanding it" anyways = A lot of wasted /. Moderator points slaying trolls.

There. Fixed that for you.

Now go do some research on Islam. Here's a reading list for you:

#1 - Koran.
#2 - Hadith. Read both the Sunni and Shi'a preferred sets. For extra credit, check into other schools that have their own "authoritative" sets.
#3 - Read up on the various fatwa that are considered "core" to belief, or to interpretation, by each of the major branches.

NOW come back and tell me you've actually studied it, in depth, before declaring it a "religion of peace." Because it is most definitively not one, unless you believe that slavery, definitive tiers of haves and have-nots based on who's a member of the official state religion, definitive tiers of haves and have-nots based on which genitalia you were born with, and an admonition to subjugate, enslave, or otherwise wipe out anyone who doesn't believe in the state-sponsored religion can actually be a "religion of peace."

Re:Uh Oh. (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | about 6 years ago | (#25416801)

I forget who exactly said this, but one of their upper figures said they will not rest until Washington DC is under Sharia.

Re:Uh Oh. (2, Insightful)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | about 6 years ago | (#25416845)

As opposed to the Bible? Seriously, this line of argument is crap. "Evil is as Evil does", or something to that effect. The bible has its share of slay them all, sleeping with your daughters and subhuman people. It boils down to what people do with it. And the vast majority of the 2 billion+ Muslims ARE peaceful.

What are they afraidn of? (4, Insightful)

Wireless Joe (604314) | about 6 years ago | (#25416429)

It's not like some militant Islamic sect would burn down the distributor's house... oh, wait.

They just want to be sensitive (5, Insightful)

Kohath (38547) | about 6 years ago | (#25416593)

Yeah, it's amazing how sensitive people can be when offending some religious group might get your building bombed or your artists shot or stabbed.

Re:What are they afraidn of? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | about 6 years ago | (#25416645)

Sadly, this is not a troll post [foxnews.com] .

Re:What are they afraidn of? (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | about 6 years ago | (#25416873)

I don't think the problem is Muslims, I think the problem is "Youths". Youths are always causing problems, we should just eliminate these Youths.

Re:What are they afraidn of? (4, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | about 6 years ago | (#25416799)

Careful, Joe, Muslims got mod points!

Just want to clarify (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | about 6 years ago | (#25416439)

So I can publish games that include demons, prostitutes, foul language, and abhorrent levels of bloodshed and violence--just as long as it doesn't piss off a Muslim somewhere?

Re:Just want to clarify (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416519)

Not a troll, has a legit point. Where's the outrage for the mod abuse?

Re:Just want to clarify (1)

Bodhammer (559311) | about 6 years ago | (#25416547)

Out of mod points but well said.

Re:Just want to clarify (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416775)

You can publish stuff that pisses off Muslims if you like. You don't get to choose what pisses people off though.

Sony is simply choosing not to offend Muslims - businesses make similar decisions all over the world for a variety of reasons.

If LBP had been pulled in Asia because it contained a song that talked about Taiwan as an independent nation, I'm guessing the amount of pissing and moaining on Slashdot would be minimal. But through Muslim into the mix and suddenly everyone is claiming their personal freedom has been abused.

Re:Just want to clarify (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416843)

Just listen to what Pat Condell has to say and you'll figure it out:

http://patcondell.net/

I don't get it (2, Insightful)

Just Some Guy (3352) | about 6 years ago | (#25416441)

Is that supposed to be offensive to someone? I dare say anyone with the background to understand the words and recognize them as a quote from an old religious tome would be unlikely to get too worked up.

Re:I don't get it (1)

retchdog (1319261) | about 6 years ago | (#25416495)

As is often the problem with these matters, someone with that background gets it in their head to tell other people.

Not that it matters anyway; people will hear whatever they want to [freerepublic.com] .

Re:I don't get it (1)

pluther (647209) | about 6 years ago | (#25416871)

Heh, I hadn't heard of that one!

I love all the reactions from the people posting (usually the most humorous part of freerepublic!)

Certainly, a religious message has no place in stores in America!

(For those wondering, it is, obviously, not true: http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/dolltalk.asp [snopes.com] )

Re:I don't get it (4, Insightful)

FatalTourist (633757) | about 6 years ago | (#25416611)

More people will be offended by the delay of the game! In fact, when I heard the news I let loose a stream of offensive words... causing even more offense. Oh sweet irony.

Re:I don't get it (1, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | about 6 years ago | (#25416779)

but those people don't kill people, and will still buy the game.
Muslims believe in killing people who disobey there religious texts.

If you are Muslim and not killing people, you are not practicing your religion properly.

Re:I don't get it (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416627)

"We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online patch, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it."

I guess I kind of understand. I mean, lots of people here would oppose installing proprietary drivers on their Linux system for fear of tainting the Holy Kernel Code of the Prophet Linus.

Qur'an verses in media (4, Insightful)

qbzzt (11136) | about 6 years ago | (#25416445)

I don't see the big deal here, since Muslims are supposed to want to distribute the Qur'an. But I can see how people would be extra paranoid about offending Muslims, since some of them take offense violently.

Re:Qur'an verses in media (0)

Icarus1919 (802533) | about 6 years ago | (#25416817)

Lots of non-muslims, too, take offense violently. It's more a symptom of the human condition.

To quote Bill Hicks (3, Insightful)

einer (459199) | about 6 years ago | (#25416451)

Yeah? And? So? What?

Re:To quote Bill Hicks (5, Informative)

einer (459199) | about 6 years ago | (#25416573)

From: http://kotaku.com/5065106/nsiders-letter-to-sony-and-media-molecule-re-quran-references [kotaku.com]

"We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending. We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online update, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it."

Personally, I consider censoring art "deeply offending." Sony, you're losing a customer if you cave to the demands of any religious group. Hey Muslims, don't buy the game.

Re:To quote Bill Hicks (1)

einer (459199) | about 6 years ago | (#25416771)

Also, I'm sure Sony would have no objection to selling a Bob Dylan album with the lyrics:

Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."

Re:To quote Bill Hicks (1)

LordKaT (619540) | about 6 years ago | (#25416621)

The best part about quoting Bill Hicks is that you have a 50/50 shot of being modded either Funny or Insightful.

Hicks truly was a karma whore.

Re:To quote Bill Hicks (1)

Jaysyn (203771) | about 6 years ago | (#25416813)

...and genius.

Logical followup (3, Funny)

Agent.Nihilist (1228864) | about 6 years ago | (#25416453)

I support the immediate recall of all games containing biblical samplings and verse references.
It is well known that religious references are debase and cause conflict, therefore have no place in today's games /satire

Sephiroth! (4, Insightful)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25416639)

Noooooo! Don't take my Final Fantasy CDs away! Not my Evangelion! Not Ghost in the Shell!

I'm sick of this (0, Troll)

RecycledElectrons (695206) | about 6 years ago | (#25416459)

I'm really sick of these crazy islamonazis deciding what we can or can not read.

It's time for us to turn the tables on them and tell them what they can or can not listen to.

Andy Out!

Re:I'm sick of this (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 6 years ago | (#25416659)

As I said below [slashdot.org] , I would agree in that some of these people need to grow some skin and learn to deal with shit.

The original complaint (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416467)

The reason for the complaint is that apparently having the words of the qur'an set to music is highly offensive to muslims.

Re:The original complaint (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25416567)

Except for the ones who wrote and performed the music?

Re:The original complaint (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 6 years ago | (#25416599)

The reason for the complaint is that apparently having the words of the qur'an set to music is highly offensive to muslims.

Isn't the Koran usually recited in chant?

Re:The original complaint (3, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 6 years ago | (#25416623)

So what? Having a game censored because of pandering to some primitive superstition is highly offensive to me.

Re:The original complaint (1)

X0563511 (793323) | about 6 years ago | (#25416643)

Too bad. Grow some fucking skin, it's a big wide world out there.

Different Sony, right? (5, Insightful)

igorthefiend (831721) | about 6 years ago | (#25416471)

Not the same Sony who didn't see anything wrong with Manchester Cathedral being used in Resistance, despite the church itself complaining? Not that I think either should be grounds for a game to be pulled, but there is the faint stench of double standards...

Re:Different Sony, right? (5, Funny)

SupremoMan (912191) | about 6 years ago | (#25416531)

It's different. Christians don't blow stuff up... anymore... I think...

Re:Different Sony, right? (1)

eln (21727) | about 6 years ago | (#25416707)

It's different. Christians don't blow stuff up... anymore... I think...

Eric Rudolph?

Okay, so he doesn't blow stuff up anymore because he's in prison, but it was not that long ago that he did.

Re:Different Sony, right? (0, Troll)

Jaysyn (203771) | about 6 years ago | (#25416847)

Nope, never. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Different Sony, right? (1)

TheGeniusIsOut (1282110) | about 6 years ago | (#25416831)

Yeah, even the Irish have toned that kind of thing way down. Maybe that's the problem, most any outside observer looking at the basis for the religions' beliefs can see they are all strikingly similar, with the exception that the others have left the violence behind as they grew up.

Re:Different Sony, right? (3, Informative)

abigor (540274) | about 6 years ago | (#25416595)

It's all about calculated risk - piss off some English Catholics, you get some peeved letters in the local paper. Piss off Muslims, you get explosions, beheadings, and people living out their lives in hiding.

Freedom of Speech? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416497)

Maybe they were afraid of being beheaded or murdered for making fun of the prophet?
Worse than a beheading maybe they were afraid of the copyright infringement.

Religion of peace?

Re:Freedom of Speech? (0, Flamebait)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | about 6 years ago | (#25416729)

Do you know what we call a "Prophet" whomarries a 6 year old?

A pedophile.

Anonymous (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416511)

What in the donkey shlong, why would they delay such an awesome game for a few lines of speech that an emo could have come up with in a matter of seconds? either this is just a load of bullshit, or the fucking islamists are overeacting and want to shoot the infidels because of crap.

Everytime you self-censor Islamic references, (5, Insightful)

eddy (18759) | about 6 years ago | (#25416513)

the radicals and the terrorists win acceptance of the idea that they alone get to dictate how the world handles their pet delusion.

Re:Everytime you self-censor Islamic references, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416781)

every time some pushes an agenda where not doing so means the terrorists win, the terrorists win.

No i haven't heard what recursion is.. why do you ask?

Big Deal! (5, Funny)

TheNecromancer (179644) | about 6 years ago | (#25416517)

My pvp guild in WoW says that EVERY DAY!!!!

So? (3, Insightful)

Jaysyn (203771) | about 6 years ago | (#25416545)

Who fucking cares? Is the Qu'ran copyrighted or something? Stop coddling these bullshit religions.

come on now... (1)

SeNtM (965176) | about 6 years ago | (#25416605)

I think that if I can handle the impact of virtually beating someone with a baseball-bat, shooting them, stealing their car and hitting the strip club...I can handle a little subliminal apocalyptic chanting in a foreign language...

This only affects the advanced copies (1)

hmm_slashdot (1170681) | about 6 years ago | (#25416607)

It's all right — they only pulled the advanced copies. We'll still be able to get the standard edition on time.

STOP BEING SO SENSITIVE (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416633)

Why is anything accosiated with religion soo taboo, is it really that big of a deal?! I for one am sick of tip toeing around for fear that something simple and innocuous will start a holy war

Re:STOP BEING SO SENSITIVE (1)

argent (18001) | about 6 years ago | (#25416689)

Andres Serrano? Is that you?

Brian Eno & David Byrne (4, Interesting)

a whoabot (706122) | about 6 years ago | (#25416663)

Eno and Byrne had a song called with Quran verses in the 80's and they were told by some imam that it was blasphemy to put the words of god to "grooves" (Byrne's word I think), so they took the song off the album.

Needs more context (1)

ProdigySim (817093) | about 6 years ago | (#25416685)

For those who didn't actually read tfp or another article, here's a quote from the original post that was relayed on Ars Technica:

"We Muslims consider the mixing of music and words from our Holy Quran deeply offending," he explained. "We hope you would remove that track from the game immediately via an online patch, and make sure that all future shipments of the game disk do not contain it."

Arabic hardcore gaming forums? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416693)

Umm, examples please?

Pay for the permissions (1)

UncleMantis (933076) | about 6 years ago | (#25416709)

It would be so much cheaper if they just payed for the sample instead of having a total recall. IDIOTS!

What are they trying to prove? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416715)

If there is a fear of Islamic backlash or something, then it is completely baseless. Bohemian Rhapsody is the living proof of it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3593532.stm

What is insulting is delaying the game and blaming it on Muslims out of nowhere.

Assassin's Creed also comes to mind where a game has lots of Islamic references to it.

That must be a great book (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416743)

"'Every soul shall have the taste of death' ... 'All that is on earth will perish'"

I wonder what it is about the Muslim religion that causes so many Westerners to distrust their intents.

Re:That must be a great book (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416849)

Yeah, damn those muslims for saying everybody dies, and that nothing on earth lasts forever! Their terrorist ways will not be forgotten!

South Park Did It (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25416869)

"Either everything is OK or nothing is." [wikipedia.org]

also, I have that eno/byrne track "qu'ran" from my life in the bush of ghosts. It's great. Fundies are nuts.

Help! Help! I'm being repressed! (5, Insightful)

Detritus (11846) | about 6 years ago | (#25416879)

There is no right to "not to be offended". Especially when the group in question, or at least its more vocal components, respond to satire and criticism with riots, bombs, and assassination. In some parts of the world, all it takes is an ill-founded rumor that someone interprets as a slight to Islam to trigger riots and mob violence. The solution isn't to appease the mob. If people act like thugs, they should be treated like thugs.

Give us a call when you get tired of living in the dark ages.

Audio samples from the Qur'an? (4, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | about 6 years ago | (#25416889)

Would that be the original release or the digitally remastered 5.1 version from just a couple of years ago? Personally, I prefer the vinyl version because digital just can't carry the warmth of Allah's vocals and that sweet guitar.

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