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New Cellphone Sized "Computer" Takes Aim at Sub-Notebooks

ScuttleMonkey posted about 6 years ago | from the no-nomad-comparisons dept.

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IMOVIO has launched a new cellphone-sized computer that is aimed at something similar to the subnotebook market. While it doesn't have 3G of its own, it does have a QWERTY keyboard, Wi-Fi, and a $175 price point. "It can connect to the Internet using a standard Wi-Fi connection, or it can use your cell phone's mobile broadband connection via Bluetooth. The company is currently pitching it to mobile network operators and retail stores. It's being compared to the ill-fated Palm Foleo. But the comparison doesn't work because the Foleo was Palm-phone only, didn't fit in a pocket and cost well over three times the price of the iKIT.

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infuriating (5, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | about 6 years ago | (#25443073)

It's infuriating. I already have a computer the size of a cell phone. It's called a "cell phone". Damn it, why can't I plug it into a TV or monitor, and plug a mouse and keyboard into it and use the damned thing like a computer?

Re:infuriating (4, Insightful)

corsec67 (627446) | about 6 years ago | (#25443241)

Cell phone companies would come out with that kind of stuff, if people quit buying cell phones from the service providers, and instead bought them from the cell phone manufacturers.

Re:infuriating (3, Funny)

Jabbrwokk (1015725) | about 6 years ago | (#25443343)

That would be great, if their service providers would let them.

And IMOVIO sounds like something one would take to relieve constipation.

Re:infuriating (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443393)

Cell phone companies would come out with that kind of stuff, if people quit buying cell phones from the service providers, and instead bought them from the cell phone manufacturers.

That'll happen when phones are NOT tied to service providers - AHEM! Apple and Blackberry! I don't have either because I refuse to do business with the carriers that have exclusive contracts with them.

Re:infuriating (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | about 6 years ago | (#25443639)

huh? Who does blackberry have an exclusive contract with?

Re:infuriating (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 6 years ago | (#25443843)

Certain models are on exclusive contract with the carriers.

Re:infuriating (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | about 6 years ago | (#25443943)

Oh... I did not know that. Which ones?

Re:infuriating (2, Informative)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 6 years ago | (#25444035)

In particular, the touchscreen model, the Thunder, is sold exclusively through Verizon in the U.S.

Re:infuriating (1)

Toll_Free (1295136) | about 6 years ago | (#25444401)

Ya can always find a reason to boycott.

Get a windows mobile device then.

--Toll_Free

Re:infuriating (5, Interesting)

east coast (590680) | about 6 years ago | (#25443459)

Let me ask: Why should it matter where we buy it from? If anything you would think the manufacturers would find accessories of this nature to have high profit margins compared to their phones. I know I'd buy into it.

Re:infuriating (4, Insightful)

mc900ftjesus (671151) | about 6 years ago | (#25443649)

Carriers want you using the easiest phone to support and the phones that use the least data. Highly capable phones are a nightmare, especially when you add in that the average American is as smart as a radish.

They don't really want you to use data, they just want the money for having it available, just like your ISP. So they'll sell you a branded phone, that's locked to hell so you can't do much besides buy ringtones.

Easy solution to locked phones: don't buy them (yes, I just heard thousands of Apple fanboys gasp at the though of not having Steve's latest piece of crap). Go get an unlocked phone and use a GSM carrier, that wasn't so hard was it?

Re:infuriating (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25444273)

especially when you add in that the average American is as smart as a radish.

I'm a radish you insensitive clod!

Re:infuriating (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | about 6 years ago | (#25444077)

Cell phone companies would come out with that kind of stuff, if people quit buying cell phones from the service providers, and instead bought them from the cell phone manufacturers.

In Finland it's always been the norm to buy your own phone, and get the service separately. It's only recently that you can get a phone (3G only) as a part of the service. Even then, the phones are rarely sim-locked, and you have the option of buying the phone and service separately for the same total price.

Nevertheless, there's limited market for something as geeky as the grandparent idea. Most people seem to want a cell phone, not a cell computer.

Re:infuriating (1)

japhering (564929) | about 6 years ago | (#25444413)

If only the cell phone manufacturers would make something the public liked at a reasonable price. What is out there lacks features, and functionality, while being way over priced..why pay exorbitant prices

Small? Go for,high-fidelity tube technology ... (4, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 6 years ago | (#25443287)

After shrinking down audio technology with integrated circuits, true audiophiles decided that big, 'ol honkers with tubes are better. I predict that the same will happen with PCs. What? A PC in your pocket, how mundane. I have a tube powered ENIAC in my basement. In fact, it IS my basement.

I can really tell the difference, because every month when the power bill comes, I know it must be good, because it is using butt-loads of electricity.

Re:Small? Go for,high-fidelity tube technology ... (5, Funny)

kftrendy (1382415) | about 6 years ago | (#25443511)

Bah. A TRUE computophile won't settle for less than a full-fledged Analytical Engine. Gears are the true analog circuits! I can really tell the difference, because every month when the coal bill comes, I know it must be good, because it is using butt-loads of coal.

Re:infuriating (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | about 6 years ago | (#25443363)

Re:infuriating (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 6 years ago | (#25443701)

Close, but no cigar.

The Sharp Zaurus is the name of a series of Personal Digital Assistant (PDA) made by Sharp Corporation. The Zaurus was the most popular PDA during the 1990s in Japan and was based on a proprietary operating system. The first Sharp PDA to use the Linux operating system was the SL-5000D, running the Qtopia-based Embedix Plus. The name derives from the common suffix applied to the names of dinosaurs, and was chosen to convey the idea of strength

I'm talking about a Razr or a Nokia with ports to plug it into your TV/monitor and keyboard/mouse. You're pointing to an old PDA.

Re:infuriating (2, Insightful)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | about 6 years ago | (#25443973)

When you're not plugged into the keyboard/mouse and tv/monitor, you're carrying around a bunch of hardware that will blow through your small cellphone battery in minutes. And if it disables a bunch of stuff and underclocks... You're now carrying around hardware you're not using. For what purpose?

Why not just come up with an easier way to sync/combine your phone and your computer.

Re:infuriating (2, Insightful)

Thelasko (1196535) | about 6 years ago | (#25444087)

I'll admit it, I was just stealing your high mod points and page location to point out that the Sharp Zaurus had pretty much the same specs as the device mentioned in TFA. There is a reason the Zaurus is no longer made, as you said, the cell phone has replaced it.

Re:infuriating (1)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | about 6 years ago | (#25444387)

It's all about convergence. It's not unthinkable to believe that in 10-15 years your cellphone WILL be your computer, your media server, your video game console system etc. It'll just depend on what you plug it into.

And your cell provider will become your ISP. And all will be right with the world.

Re:infuriating (3, Informative)

paul.tap (717722) | about 6 years ago | (#25443615)

I have to admit I never tried it, but my Nokia N95 has TV out and support keyboards via bluetooth, so there you are. Personally I prefer my Nokia N810 for mobile computing, connecting to the internet via WLAN running Joikuspot on my N95 with a unlimited data subscription with t-Mobile in the Netherlands (HSDPA)

Re:infuriating (1)

pilgrim23 (716938) | about 6 years ago | (#25443763)

I would buy this because: I am one of those people who wants to be connected to my data but hate people, so...I do not CARRY or even own a cell phone. iPod Touch yes, cell phone no. I would be interested int his if the specs were good. what ARE they by the way? CPU? Speed? memory? drive/SD Size? Screen size, dimensions. that article provides a nice pic and NO information

Re:infuriating (1)

Ascoo (447329) | about 6 years ago | (#25443869)

My year old+ Nokia N95 does that (assuming you use the TV out cable that came with it and any ordinary bluetooth keyboard). Never tried a bluetooth mouse though...

Re:infuriating (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25444205)

Do you really want haul around a keyboard and mouse for something this small? That would defeat much of the purpose. You might as well get an ultralight PC. Or something just a bit smaller than a note book. I would call it a "sub-notebook." Brilliant! I'm off to make your dreams come true, unless someone's already beat me to it.

Re:infuriating (1)

vhogemann (797994) | about 6 years ago | (#25444391)

Hummm,

Tecnically it's already doable... My N95 comes with TV-Out, and I know Nokia sells a bluetooth keyboard.

Re:infuriating (1)

xonicx (1009245) | about 6 years ago | (#25444423)

>>why can't I plug it into a TV or monitor, and plug a mouse and keyboard into it and use the damned thing like a computer?

Should be available soon

http://www.nvidia.com/page/handheld.html

you can connect your TV through HDMI,monitor through DVI, keyboard and mouse through USB or bluetooth. 

3G Tether (2, Insightful)

thedak (833551) | about 6 years ago | (#25443105)

Because I hear tethered data connections are cheap. I could see wifi, but I don't see it going very well as a tethered device. That said, at that price point I could see alot of geeks, at least the /. crowd picking them up for novelty value -- so it should well well either way.

Re:3G Tether (1)

spectre_240sx (720999) | about 6 years ago | (#25443323)

It depends on your plan. I can tether without any extra charges, but I've already got a full unlimited BlackBerry plan.

Re:3G Tether (2)

thedak (833551) | about 6 years ago | (#25443419)

Nice. In Canada we get no such thing -- Telus even recently dropped their unlimited data plan for $100. So one must pay for their standard plan (voice plan + 15 for unlimited BIS when I got mine) + the standard data to be able to use tether, $100 for 1GB a month. Unless there is an overhaul of data plans in Canada it would never fly here, it would just be too prohibitively expensive.

Re:3G Tether (1)

Stewie241 (1035724) | about 6 years ago | (#25443803)

Rogers a while back had a $30/month 6gig plan that I got signed up for on my Blackberry. Not unlimited, but a good amount, especially for a blackberry.

Ian

No built in 3G... (1)

ThisIsAnonymous (1146121) | about 6 years ago | (#25443129)

Add built in 3G and then we can talk...Otherwise, you have to connect your cell phone to this beast.

I'd rather hook a 32X up to a Genesis than carry this thing around with my cell phone dangling...

Re:No built in 3G... (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#25443631)

It has bluetooth for a reason.

Re:No built in 3G... (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25443719)

I feel the exact opposite. My phone already provides a 3G connection via bluetooth, and eventually I'll replace it with one that does HSPDA.

Screen pixels? (3, Insightful)

David Gerard (12369) | about 6 years ago | (#25443133)

What's the screen pixels? An Eee 700 is usable at 800x480; this can't go much below that and be usable on the modern Web. Even if the resulting text is Flyspeck 3, at least it'll be detailed Flyspeck 3 rather than pixelated.

Re:Screen pixels? (4, Interesting)

BUL2294 (1081735) | about 6 years ago | (#25443447)

Someone posted on the original article's forum that it's 320x240. Unfortunately, in this day and age, that resolution borders on useless. Sure, for 80x25 text or for an old VGA 320x200 DOS game it would be cool. But to do anything of recent vintage, you'll end up having to pan-and-scan in zoom mode to see a webpage. Hell, I don't like browsing on my Toshiba Libretto 110CT--and that's 800x480... (And my complaints are with the screen resolution, not speed--Firefox 3 runs acceptably on it).

Re:Screen pixels? (1)

The Gaytriot (1254048) | about 6 years ago | (#25443683)

The resolution was one of the deciding factors when I was shopping for a netbook, I ended up getting the Acer Aspire One. The original EEEpc's sucked to view web pages with, the newer ones have a resolution of 1024x600, so it's wide enough to view pages without any side scrolling (most of the time).

Re:Screen pixels? (1)

Ragzouken (943900) | about 6 years ago | (#25443995)

Great for DOS games :P

Re:Screen pixels? (1)

bigjarom (950328) | about 6 years ago | (#25444487)

My PHONE has 320x320 resolution, so uh, I think that settles it.
This is laughable.

Re:Screen pixels? (1)

6Yankee (597075) | about 6 years ago | (#25444499)

My O2 XDA Stellar (which, I think, is an HTC Kaiser in disguise) is 320x240, and it's surprisingly usable. Sure, you might have to scroll right to get past the page menu, but for the most part the content is usable - certainly enough for most things I want to read on the move. (Two notable exceptions are anything PHPBB-based and Slashdot.) Being able to use it in landscape mode definitely helps. Really, though, in terms of limitations, IE Mobile's lack of meaningful Javascript support (just enough to ignore the NOSCRIPT content and sit there with its thumb up its arse, usually) is a much bigger issue than the small screen.

(BTW, if anyone knows how I can banish Windows Mobile from this thing and still have it sync with Outlook, I'm all ears.)

I've got Bluetooth, 3G, and a full QWERTY keyboard. I've had this phone for six months, and had the T-Mobile MDA Vario II (same thing minus the GPS) for 18 months prior to that. So I'm wondering what's so amazing about this gadget that it's made the front page of Slashdot. Meh.

Re:Screen pixels? (1)

Phisbut (761268) | about 6 years ago | (#25443489)

What's the screen pixels? An Eee 700 is usable at 800x480; this can't go much below that and be usable on the modern Web. Even if the resulting text is Flyspeck 3, at least it'll be detailed Flyspeck 3 rather than pixelated.

Looking at the specs [webitpr.com] , it has a 2.8 inch QVGA display, meaning 320x240 resolution.

Star Trek (3, Informative)

Malluck (413074) | about 6 years ago | (#25443171)

So at what point can we start calling these things tricorders and be done with the whole sub-sub-mini-micro-net-note-laptops?

Re:Star Trek (4, Funny)

IceCreamGuy (904648) | about 6 years ago | (#25443229)

Once they get banned from holodecks.

Re:Star Trek (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | about 6 years ago | (#25443633)

When they get built in mass spectrometer... Xray diffraction... Infra Red spectrometer.

 

Re:Star Trek (1)

Seth Kriticos (1227934) | about 6 years ago | (#25443921)

Fun part is, I have a Nokia N800 (about the same size) and there is a full fleged Star Trek (LCARS - Linux can also run starships) theme on it (including icon animation and sound). I'm not a trekie, but this is fun. That thing is actually 2 years old, about same size and can do more (even runs Linux out of the box). And the successor also has a keborad. So where is this exactly news? That there is a new device with lower spec for less money?

No touch typing? (4, Informative)

schnikies79 (788746) | about 6 years ago | (#25443207)

No thanks. I already have a cellphone with a thumb keyboard.

Not unprecedented (4, Insightful)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | about 6 years ago | (#25443219)

Computers of this size and form-factor are not totally unprecedented. Things like the Nokia N810 internet tablet [wikipedia.org] are similar. (QWERTY keyboard, fits in your pocket, WiFi or bluetooth connectivity...). Also, many smartphones have all the features and functionality of this device (including having a physical keyboard, etc.) with the advantage of direct connectivity through the cell network.

The only thing this new device can offer is a somewhat lower price ($175 instead of >$400 for the N810). But I think this device will only appeal to a very small market (most people would prefer to spend a bit more for a more capable device, or get something with a bigger screen/keyboard).

Wanna copy Craig and do exactly like he did? (2, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25443345)

The only thing this new device can offer is a somewhat lower price ($175 instead of >$400 for the N810).

That and it's cheaper than the Pandora [openpandora.org] too.

Re:Wanna copy Craig and do exactly like he did? (2, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25443751)

Cheaper, yes. But the CPU is less than half the speed, it has half as much RAM, a lower-resolution screen, half the battery life, a much older kernel, no X11, no GPU or DSP. Less than half the functionality for half the cost.

Re:Not unprecedented (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 6 years ago | (#25443537)

Well, the thing that keeps me from getting a smart phone is that I don't want to pay for the data plan, but want a way of connecting to wifi ( most places I go are wifi'd or close to wifi'd places). Many otherwise capable phones ( see iphone) requires a data plan. However, I also don't want to carry another device around with me. Any recommendations for a wifi capable smart phone that doesn't require a data plan and is around $200? And while, I'm at it, I'd also like a competent government of the people for the people and by the people and a large fry.

Re:Not unprecedented (1)

b0bby (201198) | about 6 years ago | (#25443975)

If you can double your budget, you can get an Openmoko ($399).

Re:Not unprecedented (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 6 years ago | (#25444179)

Yeah. Its pretty close to perfect, its developed significantly since I last looked at it. Very tempting. If it were $200, there would be no doubt.

Re:Not unprecedented (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443681)

.. N810 runs linux which is very nice, tried one and liked it much (hey, you can install openvpn on it!) but still actually decided to buy a Nokia E90 communicator as my previous phone broke down. So no linux pda for me but Nokia just released IPSEC-capable VPN for S60e3 phones so I barely use my laptop anymore.

Re:Not unprecedented (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 6 years ago | (#25443685)

The only thing this new device can offer is a somewhat lower price ($175 instead of >$400 for the N810). But I think this device will only appeal to a very small market (most people would prefer to spend a bit more for a more capable device, or get something with a bigger screen/keyboard).

Yeah, first size, then usability, then cost. If this thing had more than QVGA I might trade in my n810 for it, but I traded in my Treo for more screen real estate. Like others have said, though, decent DNS server.

Hasn't this been done before? (2, Interesting)

Darundal (891860) | about 6 years ago | (#25443225)

How is this not a PDA minus the PIM apps?

Compare to a DS with DSOrganize (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 years ago | (#25443373)

For the same reason a Nintendo DS is not a PDA minus the PIM apps. At least a modded DS can run a primitive PIM app called DSOrganize; I imagine Linux has better PIM apps.

Re:Hasn't this been done before? (1)

komby (556843) | about 6 years ago | (#25443807)

Seems pretty similar to my ipod touch. Minus the keyboard. Though I have found that the missing 3G connection for the touch makes it very annoying to travel with. I don't see how there will be a large market for these devices without ubiquitous internet.

But does it run Linux (5, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | about 6 years ago | (#25443237)

2.6?

Let's hope 2.4 stays supported for some time to come.

Nokia (4, Interesting)

rlp (11898) | about 6 years ago | (#25443245)

Nokia has a line of small devices that do the same thing. The 770 (which I use) and 800 have on-screen keyboards, the 810 has a slide-down keyboard. The access the internet via WiFi or a bluetooth connection on a phone.

Who needs the Internet? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 6 years ago | (#25443403)

I have an N800, and have a one-hour train ride to work every day. With two 8 GB SDHC chips in it, I'm set for a month of video viewing.

Re:Nokia (1)

Dtyst (790737) | about 6 years ago | (#25444483)

Nokias internet tablets are ok but I like more their Commnicator phones. Nokia has had this mini-"laptop" since 1996 (and it is also a phone). Check their communicator series [wikipedia.org] , the latest being Nokia E90 [wikipedia.org] . Unfortunately it's quite expensive.

Dongle (1)

Skorpfox (830069) | about 6 years ago | (#25443293)

If they added a USB port, it would be an interesting addition to on site troubleshooting of network gear if all you need is a terminal window. Just add USB serial dongle or something to that effect. Other than that my cell phone does everything it does.

The only reason we are calling this a "Computer" (4, Insightful)

gblackwo (1087063) | about 6 years ago | (#25443295)

Is because unlike our cellphones/pdas which have the same functionality, this is a clamshell design that looks like a shrunken laptop.

Re:The only reason we are calling this a "Computer (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 6 years ago | (#25443689)

There aren't many PDAs with a clamshell design, and there aren't many cellphones lacking a cell antenna.

The line between a computer and a pda (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443315)

..goes between whether I can type with it using more than two fingers or not. Fail. Next.

Re:The line between a computer and a pda (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443551)

When I saw it, It reminded me of the KByte Zipit, Google Images [google.com] , a kids toy. $30 on ebay... Runs linux...

Video glasses (2, Insightful)

spribyl (175893) | about 6 years ago | (#25443341)

Add some video glasses/goggles and I might be interested. The existing screen in to small for real work.

PDA Specs (4, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | about 6 years ago | (#25443375)

The specs seem much closer to a PDA than a netbook. Also the choice of using a 2.4 based Linux is interesting. I admit I haven't been following Linux on Xscale, so perhaps that explains the choice. Personally I expect more general purpose use out of a "computer" and these specs seem like it's more geared for PDA use.

- Processor: Marvell PXA270 312MHz
- ROM: 128 MB, RAM: 64 MB SDRAM
- User data: 12MB, User media files: 23MB

- Operating System: Linux 2.4.19
- User Interface GUI: Proprietary plus Trolltech QT/E 2.3.8
- Bluetooth® 2.0 with EDR, supports wireless stereo headset
- (A2DP) & DUN profile
- WIFI® IEEE 802.11 b/g
- Optional USB connection configured for HSDPA dongle
- QWERTY/AZERTY + numeric keys, other languages optional
- Micro SD (up to 8GB)
- 2.8 inch QVGA, TFT, 260,000 colors, landscape

http://www.webitpr.com/release_detail.asp?ReleaseID=10258 [webitpr.com]

Re:PDA Specs (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25443783)

Lots of small form-factor devices that use Linux use a 2.4 kernel. This is a shame - 2.6 doesn't seem to support small devices well, and 2.4 lacks a number of features that you'd expect from a semi-modern *NIX. I do wonder why they don't use a BSD variant for these devices, and get something with modern features and a small footprint.

64MB (1)

davidwr (791652) | about 6 years ago | (#25444019)

RAM: 64 MB SDRAM

That leaves plenty of room for upgrades. Nobody will ever need more than 640MB of RAM.

Re:PDA Specs (1)

hattig (47930) | about 6 years ago | (#25444373)

While I agree that the specs are underwhelming, that is how it is reaching its £99 price point - last generation display, last generation chipset, last generation memory capacity, etc.

This device's usefulness comes down to its keyboard and the applications installed.

I think it would be nice if they could have used a higher DPI screen to get 480x320, and in addition used a more up to date ARM SoC, the PXA270 is years old.

For more info (3, Insightful)

Seakip18 (1106315) | about 6 years ago | (#25443383)

here's [webitpr.com] the actually spec and release data.

It looks neat and I'm sure it works well...but smartphones have GPS and 3G/data plans built in. Most have some developer support good to go and better cameras. Ultra-portables have a better keyboard/mouse, more ports to connect crap and full web browsers. Hell, some allow you to just stick in SIM card, rolling all 3 into 1.

The battery life is ok but not great, seeing how long it takes to charge. It honestly fills no niche or even covers everything. Solid Meh.

Blackberry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443397)

You can do all of this on a Blackberry (AFAIK), so I don't see why this is news or how it will succeed.

We already have cell-phone sized computers (5, Funny)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 6 years ago | (#25443411)

Pretty soon, your iPod/iPhone is going to be your computer. You'll be able to have your iPhone in your pocket, walk in to any building, sit at a thin client (monitor & keyboard) and connect to your iPhone using a physical cable and possibly even BlueTooth or Wi-Fi. Soon your iPhone/iPod will be a wearable computer, with sunglasses for the display and a bluetooth headset. Commands will be spoken into the handset instead of typing. You'll meet somebody and be able to look at their MySpace/Facebook while you're talking to them face to face.

Do you think I have a decent chance on the speaking circuit as a futurist? :-)

Futurism (1)

FourthAge (1377519) | about 6 years ago | (#25443619)

I think you're right, but it will be an x86-compatible PC, because the ability to run legacy x86/Windows apps is a major selling point. (This is, unfortunately, why other CPU architectures are doomed in consumer space.)

Also, the images won't just be drawn flat on the inside of the glasses. They will be drawn as if you were looking at them on a physical surface in front of you. In reality, there is only a mouse and keyboard on your desk, but you can also see two 25" monitors there.

Re:We already have cell-phone sized computers (2, Funny)

Wiseazz (267052) | about 6 years ago | (#25444065)

You forgot the dire predictions about losing our humanity and ability to socially interact without our technology crutches.

Oh, and robots. You didn't talk about robots.

Re:We already have cell-phone sized computers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25444177)

I think you greatly over estimate the amount of photo albums we'll need to make in the future.

Re:We already have cell-phone sized computers (1)

cranky_slacker (815016) | about 6 years ago | (#25444193)

You've been reading Cory Doctrow (http://craphound.com/down/ [craphound.com] ) again, haven't you?

iPhone? (3, Insightful)

lymond01 (314120) | about 6 years ago | (#25443457)

So, my iPhone can:

Access Google Apps for document processing.
Access the internet in a normal fashion (non-WAP)
Check email
Calendaring
PDFs
Hook up to data projectors using the component cable adapter
Play music on my home stereo/computer/car
And honestly, looking at that keyboard on this sub-sub-notebook, the iPhone's input is likely better (I'm one of the lucky people who LOVES the iPhone keyboard)
SSH using a new app I bought (sorry...I did buy it)
RDP using a free app (not as good as the SSH app, but it does let me control my office webcam)
Play games
Make lightsaber sounds

Seriously...this sub-sub-notebook doesn't offer anything I don't have and that the iPhone (and likely other phones) don't already do better.

Full VGA (1)

Juan Rey (233115) | about 6 years ago | (#25443465)

HTC Qtek 9000, aka Grundig 9800, already featured 3G, Wifi, Bluetooth, full keyboard plus 640x480 VGA mode.

Dvorak (1)

swaq (989895) | about 6 years ago | (#25443485)

I use Dvorak, you insensitive clods! Seriously though, I'm always annoyed by the mini devices that have Qwerty keyboards, because they are too small to touch type on anyway. An alphabetical keyboard would make more sense (to me, at least).

Re:Dvorak (1)

gblackwo (1087063) | about 6 years ago | (#25443581)

I hate typing on my TI-83.

nokia n800 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443641)

I own a nokia n800, it runs on maemo, which is an open-source debian derivative with a 2.6 kernel. It links up to apt repositories and has hundreds of packages available It's great for pen testing, I can run ettercap on it with no problem. It also has wifi and bluetooth and can do all the things this thing can. It runs skype, pidgin and can read PDFs. I can use it to SSH or VNC into my home computer. It's got a gorgeous 640x480 screen, runs firefox with adblock plus and fits in my jacket pocket. It can handle 5 hours of constant use without a recharge.

In summary the n800 is just as good as if not better than this thing and has an established community of people porting packages and developing for it

Move along nothing to see here ( Zaurus) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25443663)

I have one already, its called a Zaurus.
why bother?

Re:Move along nothing to see here ( Zaurus) (1, Redundant)

Xamindar (533756) | about 6 years ago | (#25443833)

Yep, I got one already, a Zaurus C3100. 8gig hard drive, 640x480 resolution, looks to be the same exact size as this one. I can even tether bluetooth with my phone, connect to wifi access points, stream music, watch videos....... move along, this has been done before, and better from the looks of it.

Re:Move along nothing to see here ( Zaurus) (1)

bmsleight (710084) | about 6 years ago | (#25444311)

But for £99 ?

Tandy PC-5 (2, Interesting)

bigattichouse (527527) | about 6 years ago | (#25443667)

I still have my old tandy with whopping 4k of ram somewhere: http://www.trs-80.com/images/computer-pc5x300.gif [trs-80.com] Boy I miss that thing. I remember writing little programs for my physics class. It was also handy to write out equations "long hand" to make sure I entered them properly. If I buy a cell-palm-top, am I just trying to relive junior high? Maybe I won't get beat up so much this time.

Specs not so good (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 6 years ago | (#25443679)

PXA270 is a pretty old core design, and 312MHz is very slow. 2.4 series kernel lacks a number of features that you'd expect from a *NIX, and it seems not to be running X11, which makes porting apps that don't use Qt quite difficult. Only 64MB of RAM is a bit tight too. Power up time of 3 hours is just lame - my 770 gets 3 hours of browsing time, and the OpenPandora units get around 10 hours.

Honestly, it sounds like someone was aiming for the £99 price point and ended up crippling the device to get it under the magic three digit mark. Maybe it's going to sell well to the teen market, but it fails as a device for geeks.

It's like they jumped into a time machine... (2, Interesting)

sootman (158191) | about 6 years ago | (#25443835)

... and went back to 2003! [mobilemag.com] Twice! [tomsguide.com]

Price point (1)

mod+40z4gc9s (267602) | about 6 years ago | (#25443865)

I'll bet it really solutions its vertical market integration with synergistic functionality on a going-forward basis. Price points are so awesome!

Sounds like a Zaurus (1)

morgauo (1303341) | about 6 years ago | (#25443967)

OK, not the SL-5000 that people in the US remember but the more recent SL-C... series which had microdrives, better screen resolution, etc...

It sounds like a great little device but why would someone want to carry that plus their cellphone. It will fail for that reason. I can't wait for an actual open cellphone, no kill switches, not locked into some company's app store, etc... That means you iPhone. It would be great if it ran Linux and GPE (basically X & gdk scaled down for mobile use). Then existing apps would port easily rather than trying to develop a whole new software base for mobile use, not like Android.

Pandora? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 years ago | (#25444001)

Pandora handheld (2009)? Mini-Linux computer for those non-retro-gamers.

Sounds like an iPhone (1)

ChrisA90278 (905188) | about 6 years ago | (#25444013)

Computer the size of a cell phone?? Sounds like an iPhone. Or an iPod Touch.

I remeber hearing Steve Job introduce the iPhone. He said to think of this not as a phone but as a computer that runs a phone application.

Nice stuff, but... (1)

Andtalath (1074376) | about 6 years ago | (#25444031)

I prefer a Pandora, which runs linux, has full gaming options and can be used kinda decently as a desktop if necessary.

Close, but not yet a good micro-server (1)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | about 6 years ago | (#25444033)

Remove the keyboard, screen, and wireless stuff. Add one or two ethernet ports and one to three USB ports. Cut the price to $100, max. Then you'd have a perfectly useful micro-server, good for all those tasks that don't take much processor oomph. I could use one or two of what I've described. But this thing? It's neither fish nor fowl and I don't see the use of it.

Re:Close, but not yet a good micro-server (1)

Electrawn (321224) | about 6 years ago | (#25444371)

See if you can find a Linksys NSLU2 somewhere for your needs.

No mobile 'phone functionality? (1)

Happosai (73708) | about 6 years ago | (#25444153)

I'll stick with my Nokia E90 [nokia.com] , thanks...whilst Symbian based rather than Linux, it is also a fully functional mobile telephone.

[Happosai]

Input methods (1)

LunarEffect (1309467) | about 6 years ago | (#25444275)

I think todays Netbooks are the smallest you should go if you are wanting to put the device on a table and type on it (as compared to holding it in both your hands, typing with your thumbs). I have an Aspire One by Acer and it always takes me a few moments to get accustomed to the smaller keyboard when I fire it up. I really cannot see how I'd work productively on a journey with the iKit. It would be interesting to see development in alternative input methods =)

Other cheaper devices. (1)

Zerth (26112) | about 6 years ago | (#25444327)

The Zipit2 has a 300 mhz system with 32 megs ram, 8 megs flash, miniSD card slot, has b/g wireless(does WPA), and can run OpenEmbeded Linux. It also has JTAG and serial pads inside, and I think someone is working on getting USB out of the weird connector on the back. The keyboard is chiclet, but it looks about the same as this thing. Honestly, the whole thing looks almost the same, except "business"ified.

The big plus? You can get it on amazon for $50 bucks. It was $150, but they separated out their IM/SMS service for kids into a separate subscription thing.

You can just go to the sourceforge project and put the OE boot image on an SD card, or the company set up a wiki [zipitwireless.com] with all the GPL bits, but the wireless chip doesn't have a GPL driver. Still, probably more support than the mfg of the device in the story will provide.

No bluetooth, though.

Incidentally... (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 6 years ago | (#25444443)

The Zipit Wireless Z2 [wikipedia.org] has somewhat similar specs(no bluetooth, and only miniSD support) for only 49.99 new, a bit less if you hunt around. The default firmware is absolutely worthless(IM only, and demands that you pay a monthly fee after a couple of weeks of use); but the device runs linux, and there is an openembedded port http://linux.zipitwireless.com/ [zipitwireless.com] and http://openzipit.org/ [openzipit.org]

Not quite as good, and not an out of the box ready to go kind of thing; but pretty cheap for a PXA270 platform that plays reasonably well with hobbyist linux. The product in TFA looks like a fun toy; but the zipit has the advantage of being almost as good, 1/3 the price, and available now.
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