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MTV Launches Music Video Site

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the guess-what's-top-rated-right-now dept.

Music 192

An anonymous reader writes "MTV Music has just launched a website where they offer over 16,000 music videos — like YouTube, but with fewer notices and DMCA takedowns. They've also set up development tools for third parties to incorporate the content into their own creations. Users creating accounts at the site face other challenges, however, such as the six separate agreements and privacy statements that must be accepted via a single checkbox. Thankfully, at the time of writing the MTV Music website was making this process easier on its Firefox 3 visitors by automatically checking the accept box whenever any agreement is viewed."

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192 comments

Enjoy it while it lasts (5, Funny)

dyingtolive (1393037) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553041)

In about 8 months, they'll have nothing but Real World, and you'll have to go to www.mtvmusic2.com if you want to actually see music videos.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (0, Flamebait)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553085)

In about 8 months, they'll have nothing but Real World, and you'll have to go to www.mtvmusic2.com if you want to actually see music videos.

Quoted for truth.

Why is this shit on /.? Is this really stuff that matters? You can find a good number of music videos on Youtube, Break, Liveleak, and many others. Probably more then you can find on MTV's website, and with less advertisements. Will MTV go with their usual BS like on TRL and have a screaming girl saying why they love Justin Timberlake and why it should be #1 for the day?

I ask again, why was this considered "Stuff that matters?"

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (1)

pla (258480) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553257)

Why is this shit on /.? Is this really stuff that matters? You can find a good number of music videos on Youtube, Break, Liveleak, and many others.

Because unlike 99% of videos on YouTube, MTV has offered them legally. And most likely, they've encoded them correctly rather than as stuttering captures from a 3rd-gen VHS copy-from-broadcast.

Hey, I'll agree with you completely that I don't the "legal" distinction doesn't matter from a practical standpoint, but why would anyone prefer the illegal versions (given comparable or better quality)?

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (2, Informative)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553299)

A good number of record companies have started releasing videos on Youtube. I can't cite this information because it's blocked at work, however they have many accounts created specifically by Universal Records, paramount, etc.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553661)

Also, you can probably link these and they'll still be there three months later, unlike videos on Youtube.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554201)

Or you'll find the screened rips of the MTV Videos on youtube itself.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553247)

I heard they had to form a committee to research what exactly music videos are and whether they are relevant to the company's core business.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553473)

It won't be night and day though. About 4 months down the line they'll throw in the occasional episode of Remote Control. That will entice us to want more. They'll also tone down our appreciation for the music videos by playing MTV Jams for a month or two. That's when they'll throw the bag of crap in our face and give us nothing but the Real World, Road Rules, the Real World/Road Rules Challenge, the Real Road Rules World Rules, and Road Rules Real World Rules Road World Challenge 6.

Re:Enjoy it while it lasts (2, Insightful)

HungryHobo (1314109) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553599)

I take it Real World / Road Rules are like big brother over here. "big brother season 3065 now with even more fucked up people!"

But unfortunatly this site isn't available to people in europe and I can't be assed going through a proxy.

Fucking regional distribution. I'll stick with piracy since at least the pirate sites treat me the same whether I'm a fucking red blooded american or not.

For those who don't know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553877)

yes

from wikipedia

Real World

The narration given over the opening title sequence by the seven housemates states some variation of the following:
âoe This is the true story... of seven strangers... picked to live in a house...work together and have their lives taped... to find out what happens... when people stop being polite... and start getting real...The Real World.

Road Rules

Road Rules, MTV's second reality show, debuted on July 19, 1995. The series followed six strangers between the ages of 18 and 24 (five strangers in the first four seasons) after stripping them of their money and putting them on an RV traveling from location to location only guided by a set of clues and a mission to complete at each location. It was nominated for an Emmy Award in 2001.

Music video site? (4, Insightful)

Chriscypher (409959) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553051)

I wonder how long until they subvert the channel to only broadcast crappy reality shows.

Re:Music video site? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553417)

Even though I'm just an AC, I don't think this parent should be redundant- post times from this and the first post were very close, almost concurrent.

That being said- it's very sad that a station originally known for its music has to have a separate entity for its first purpose...
Music Television Music.
Kind of like the Rio Grande River, eh?

So that's where all the music went... (3, Interesting)

thomsomc (1247152) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553065)

I guess they finally had to move ALL of the music videos off the air and onto a new website. I was wondering where they were going to actually show music videos...now I know.

Neither music nor television (4, Funny)

hoto0301 (811128) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553073)

mtvmusic2.com will soon be dominated by jackass and some other useless bullshit that will destroy any remaining dignity the internet may have once had

Re:Neither music nor television (2, Funny)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553151)

huh sorry i missed that i just farted?

Re:Neither music nor television (2, Funny)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553287)

Says you:

will destroy any remaining dignity the internet may have once had

Says DNA:

There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

Says I:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1011281&cid=25553165 [slashdot.org]

Does this mean..? (5, Funny)

Burning1 (204959) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553075)

Does this mean that they can stop wasting our time with those stupid music videos on their TV channel, and get back to their reality TV roots...?

US only (5, Informative)

JohnstonDJ (861127) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553095)

I was thinking this was going to be really cool. If it was of a higher resolution than youtube, and all neatly organized it would be awesome. However It gets major negative points from me, as on the three video files I tried all i got was a "Copyrights prevent us from playing this file outside the U.S." Back to youtube for me.

Re:US only (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553185)

Works just fine here in Europe (Belgium).

Can it be that some videos are restricted

Re:US only (2, Informative)

JohnstonDJ (861127) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553235)

Looking around it seems to be that. About half the video files are copyright restricted. I know it falls under different copyright laws, but the files I am attempted to watch on the website I have viewed on New Zealands version of MTV. Damn having broadcast rights, but not streaming rights.

Re:US only (4, Insightful)

ErkDemon (1202789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554067)

Only about half? (!!?)

As an exercise, I've just gone back and tried about twenty or thirty major MTV-friendly videos from major MTV-type artists and current chart singles (US and UK), and I haven't gotten a single one to play.

Zero success rate. They all have the "US-only" copyright notice.

This is bad. It has National Security implications. How are we supposed to convince the Aggrieved Iranian Youth to drop hardcore Islamic values and embrace the West, if we don't let them see the purty videos with wimmin-in-bikinis jumping up and down? They're just going to be even more aggrieved, and the people who win are going to be the repressive local governments who wanted to block all this material anyway.

MTV is supposed to be the international shopfront for The American Dream. It's sometimes partly credited for the destruction fo the Berlin Wall (glum East-Berliners had illegal MTV cable wired under the Wall, and thought the West was all conspicuous consumption and pink cadillacs).

How're you gonna export US aspirational fantasies to other cultures if you set up an info-wall that stops outsiders from being able to see in?

"Hearts and Minds", people! Ya can't corrupt the youth of North Korea and Afghanistan with Decadent Western Values if you don't show them the goodies! Leave a vacuum, and, gawd, they're just gonna develop their own cultural material.

The US has lost so much influence around the world in the last eight years in so many areas, popular entertainment is perhaps is last major niche where it can claim world dominance. Of those, TV and movies and music are the three "broadcastables". Pull the plug on world access to MTV, and you're losing a major component of the infowars where the US has technical superiority -- music tends to be cheap to produce, music videos tend to be expensive.

Re:US only (2, Informative)

whoisrich (1194797) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553241)

Urgh, im in the UK, and I tried the top 4 most viewed, and all were not available outside the U.S.

Re:US only (2, Insightful)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553343)

>Urgh, im in the UK, and I tried the top 4 most viewed, and all were not available outside the U.S.
probably a blessing - be happy about it.

Re:US only (1)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553569)

Same happens with www.pandora.com. So sad, I have to keep going with the illegal downloads.

Re:US only (1)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554349)

What about jango.com [jango.com] ? I'm not sure sure if it will work outside the US either but it's worth a shot. It's about on par with pandora.

Which videos? (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553277)

Which videos?

I just clicked on couple of the videos from the front page and they work (Money For Nothing, Never Gonna Give You Up, Under Pressure, Touch Of Grey, Welcome to the Jungle).
But boy does the sound on the Under Pressure suck.
Apparently MTV forgot what that M stands for cause video runs and looks just fine. Better than most youtube videos I've seen.

On a side note, comments like this make me feel old. And I'm not even 30 yet. XD

Someone commenting on Under Pressure by Queen an David Bowie:

dawimp523 10.29.08 02:11AM
I never saw this video until now! I've seen their live performance, but never the actual video! It's really weird, but in a good way! It seems like a bunch of random clips but it somehow fits the song! That was pretty ballsy for Queen and Bowie not to be in the video. But anyway, thank you MTV Music, for showing obscure videos that we might have missed or haven't seen in a long time!

Re:Which videos? (1)

Grimbleton (1034446) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553353)

Ah yes, Under Pressure. Truly an archaic and unknown obscurity.

I truly fear for the next generation (And I'm only 22. Sigh.)

Re:Which videos? (5, Funny)

edmicman (830206) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553791)

Isn't "Under Pressure" that song Queen ripped off from Vanilla Ice?

Re:Which videos? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553577)

did you just rickroll yourself?

Re:Which videos? (1)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553597)

Yeah, but they'll never show Faust or Bonzo Dog will they? It's just middle of the road crap.

Re:Which videos? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553751)

Middle of the road crap is all that's profitable. The long tail theory didn't survive contact with Joe Downloader [harvard.edu] .

Re:Which videos? (1)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554345)

Thanks for the link. The long tail theory is very welcoming for me, as we get flooded with middle of the road in everything, the saturation makes us want something different.
For example: Bonzo Dog created some fine music and were involved with the Beatles, Monty Python etc.
So if you're a Beatles fan or a Monty Python fan, then eventually you get drawn to Bonzo Dog. Then you get to appreciate them for what they were.
Faust is the complete antithesis of 'middle of the road'. When you get jaded with tin pan alley, you want to clear your head with some avant garde.

But the main point should be that the internet should (and does) provide an extensive and far-reaching library of almost everything. Getting access to the library is difficult and not intuitive. There are laws, copyright, technological limitations and search restrictions that prevent most people from finding and experiencing something 'different'.
In the end, everybody should have access or (as my imagination can stretch) even local copies of everything available.
That's what the 'promise of the future' is. I've seen it in promotional Apple material in the 90's, in Sci-Fi (Star Trek original is a good example), where computers can almost instantly provide any information that's needed.
How close is MTV to that promised future? How close will they be in 10 years time?

lol Can you envision this?

Spock: Captain? I believe that the first 4 bars of a late 20th century musical group called 'The B52's' rendition of Rock Lobster contain the sequence we need to re-align the phaser array.

Capt Kirk: Uhura, contact Star fleet and get them to send us the first 4 bars of Rock Lobster by the B52s.

Uhura: Captain? They want to know if you want to pay by credit card or Paypal.

Re:US only (1)

kent_eh (543303) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553707)

Same here in Canada.
I even tried some Canadian bands, just for fun. Still "not viewable from outside the USA".
But on their "sign up" page, you can select from the standard list of every country in the world as your location.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Give me the box (3, Insightful)

RemoWilliams84 (1348761) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553101)

Great, now mtv has another way to brainwash kids into thinking this emo crap is music. I also hate how some of my favorite bands are pigeonholed as a certain type of music because if they ever have a hit song it has to be just the right amount of pop. I miss the box music network. They seemed to have a great rotation and mix of music, at least in my area.

Only thing that will matter to me is (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553103)

Can I use a plug in to download the selected video or not.

Something is up on Youtube recently as I am randomly getting junk FLV when downloading videos where a week or two ago all the videos I downloaded were viewable "offline"

Re:Only thing that will matter to me is (1)

lxs (131946) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553131)

Something similar happened to me. Upgrading VLC to the latest version seemed to fix it. Apparently, it wasn't a junk FLV, just a newer encoding.

Re:Only thing that will matter to me is (2, Informative)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553513)

The new encoding isn't junk. It's MP4. Try changing the extension.

Proper music goes in the ears... (3, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553107)

...not the eyes.

Yes, by all means show me a concert of some proper musicians playing live to an audience, or show me some historic footage of a band in a documentary.

But please don't show me pretty "mini-movies" that do nothing more than try to distract me from realising how crap the underlying music actually is.

MTV have done for music what pork fat has done for cardiac health.

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (5, Funny)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553155)

MTV have done for music what pork fat has done for cardiac health.

"MTV is to Music as KFC is to Chicken"
-Lewis Black

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553205)

Apologies... with acknowledgement to the very wonderful and very funny Mr Lewis Black.

The "in the ears.. in the eyes" comments are also stolen from him as well.

Thanks! (3, Funny)

GuloGulo (959533) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553229)

I thought proper music was live bands? Oh, then it was wax cylinders I think. Isn't it vinyl these days, with CDs being the product of the anti-christ?

It's a good thing we have people like you to tell us what proper music is.

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (1)

Jawn98685 (687784) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553297)

By and large, I would agree that "the underlying... music..." is largely crap, but there are exceptions. Back when MTV was about music and music videos, there was a regular supply of genuinely artistic work in the video genre. Check out Billy Joel's "Pressure" and "We Didn't Start The Fire" videos for two fine examples. Yes, most of the MTV music video library is dreck (Madonna video's anyone?) but I for one, am grateful that the gems can now be plucked from that pile. I do wish that they'd do something about the audio quality though.

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (3, Insightful)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553819)

Nobody's showing you anything. If you don't want to watch, don't go to the site or turn on the channel. Jeez.

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553951)

yerrrr ... get of my lawn

Re:Proper music goes in the ears... (1)

Loibisch (964797) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554413)

You are a moron if you don't realize, that there are music clips out there that can easily count as art. Nobody in their right mind watches music videos because they want to listen to music. They watch music videos to be entertained.

Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (3, Interesting)

TheSunborn (68004) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553113)

Is it me, or is the music quality really really bad?

It almost sound like they encoded the music as 96Kbit/sec mp3 and then added noise.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (5, Funny)

Jamu (852752) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553143)

Luxury. Outside the US it's 0Kbit/sec and we have to add our own noise.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (4, Funny)

TheSunborn (68004) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553435)

Dam, I did not know that Denmark had been accepted as a new state in USA. Now I only have a few days to find out which president candidate to vote for.

Why was I not informed before.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25554057)

Why was I not informed before.

Perhaps you are black?

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (3, Interesting)

TheSunborn (68004) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553149)

Example: Try to listen to Tori Amos Winter
http://www.mtvmusic.com/video/?id=47577 [mtvmusic.com]
And then compare to the youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnboUbOGDOM [youtube.com]

The Mtv version got a really bad 'noice' in the background in the beginning of the song.
Or maybe it's just a problem with their player and Linux.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (1)

jackb_guppy (204733) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553253)

You are lucky. I get nothing but a "blank" video.

Not ready for prime time.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (1)

Dutch_Cap (532453) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554335)

You are lucky, my firefox crashes.

Re:Is it me, or is the music quality really bad? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553265)

Is it me, or is the music quality really really bad?

I thought that was a given. After all, we're talking about MTV....

Limited Functionality (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553129)

From what I see, compared to yesterday, looks like they are cutting back on comments, rating and logging in to keep streaming the videos. They must be seeing quite a bit of traffic.

Re:Limited Functionality (1)

YourExperiment (1081089) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553411)

looks like they are cutting back on comments, rating and logging in to keep streaming the videos. They must be seeing quite a bit of traffic.

That, or they saw what happened to YouTube.

Lucky default? (2, Interesting)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553141)

Thankfully, at the time of writing the MTV Music website was making this process easier on its Firefox 3 visitors by automatically checking the accept box whenever any agreement is viewed.

I sure as hell hope this is ironic. It's my vague recollection that there are laws (or court findings) against the default behavior being entering into a contract.

In US contract law, there has to be a meeting of the minds for a contract to be formed. That is, both parties have to believe they agree on what the contract says.
(Source: female lawyer from the defcon media archives; can't remember exactly who though)

When you click next without having read the contract, have the minds met? If the checkbox is on by default, you implicitly say you do, but did you mean to do that?

In any case, if it's not illegal, it's something that smells wrong.

Consider this: when you install Debian or Ubuntu, you're asked whether you want to install popularity-contest, a program that reports anonymous usage data [which packages are installed, when have they last been used].

I trust the Debian project and Canonical to not misuse that data, and to aggregate enough of it such that usage patterns which could identify individuals with high probability are lost in the aggregation process.

But it's still the right thing for Debian and Ubuntu not installing popularity-contest unless the user explicitly wants to.

-- Jonas K

Re:Lucky default? (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553193)

Consider this: when you install Debian or Ubuntu, you're asked whether you want to install popularity-contest, a program that reports anonymous usage data [which packages are installed, when have they last been used].

I've always thought popularity-contest is the dumbest application you could install. Don't agree? Here's my fictional top 3 as told by popularity-contest:

1. popularity-contest
2. linux-kernel-image
3. xorg

Genius.

Re:Lucky default? (3, Interesting)

jomegat (706411) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553393)

Oh yes, thankfully they check that box for me. I was at a drug store this summer trying to get some Sudafed, but in order to do that, I was presented with an electronic notice telling me how I could go jail if I told lies about my intended use of the product (or some such rot - thanks meth-heads!). As I was reading the notice, they clerk "thankfully" grabbed the pen and checked the "Yes, I read this and understand it" box "for" me before I had even finished the first sentence. I was astounded. She got all huffy when I insisted she start all over, because I wanted to read all the fine print before agreeing to anything.

MTV's approach is not that much different.

ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (4, Informative)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553165)

Here's what a quick look on the site says:

Top Rated:
<img/>
Never Gonna Give You Up
By Rick Astley

ffs, /.

Re:ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (1)

vdgmr1213 (1234018) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553479)

You might be modded funny, but for those who visited the site, they would find it more informative than anything. It sure didn't take long for that to reach to the top.

Re:ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553529)

Laugh all you want, but he's probably making more money now than he ever has in his life. He doesn't even need the food stamps anymore.

Re:ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (1)

illumin8 (148082) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553677)

Top Rated:
Never Gonna Give You Up
By Rick Astley

It's obvious MTV realized that if they wanted to compete with YouTube, they had to have the most popular music video of all time [mtvmusic.com] on there, or they just couldn't compete.

On a more serious note, did anyone else notice that their flash player looks almost exactly like Hulu's? I wonder if there is some licensing agreement with Hulu behind the scenes?

Re:ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553701)

You think Slashdot has anything to do with that?

Sorry to break it to you, but the days when Slashdot did anything to affect things on the larger net are long since past.

Re:ffs, Rick-Rolled already? (1)

Riot.ATL (1365395) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553713)

I should have seen that coming a mile away ...

History repeats itself, backwards, sort of. (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553183)

MTV started out as a music video channel, which eventually took them to create MTV2, a channel of deranged muppets, guys getting kicked in the nuts and all sorts of contents created by and intended for brain-damaged idiots. They would have eventually created this as well, except that Youtube already fills this niche.

Wow, 16000 tracks (1)

Njovich (553857) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553201)

That's nearly a quarter of my mp3 collection!

More seriously, the interface seems nice but the quality of the audio and video is similar to youtube and the non-English-language music offering is not too good. What is the point here really?

Maybe MTV can do for the web... (1)

Subm (79417) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553261)

Maybe MTV [encycloped...matica.com] can do for the web what it did for television...

"Abbreviation for Music Television. (More like Reality Television, amirite?) This name was chosen ironically after MTV's most hated enemy, music...

Since its inception no more than 99 years ago, MTV has attempted to systematically exterminate music, and to date, they have been reasonably successful in this regard. Some argue that the key to their victory was their outright refusal to have music videos played on their channel, or even to acknowledge the existence of music in any way (as evidenced by the various award shows they host every year).

Responsible for the successful careers of such shit bands and artists as 50 Cent, Good Charlotte, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Lil' Jon, Coldplay and James Blunt. Indeed, rumor has it that MTV's official policies require them to have one of the aforementioned on screen at all times. But obviously they should never actually play any of their songs. That would be severely damaging to their popularity."

Re:Maybe MTV can do for the web... (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553721)

I read two sentences of that, and then I thought, "Geez, this is horribly written and tries way too hard to be funny, it must be copied from Encyclopedia Dramatica", and whaddya know, it turns out it was.

Convenient? (1)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553267)

Maybe I'm just getting old (I am 25 after all), but who wants to sit at their computer at watch music videos?

Let's see, you got sub-TV video quality levels, you don't have the convenience of a playlist, and you don't have the slick and trendy host who's "hip, rad, and down with it"* to tell you which songs you should want to buy.

* I'm convinced that's what the kids say these days.

Re:Convenient? (2, Insightful)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553769)

Maybe I'm just getting old (I am 25 after all), but who wants to sit at their computer at watch music videos?

Ever hear of S-Video out on your graphics card? Many computers have them these days.

As for the quality, yeah, it's probably about on par with Youtube, though some are better, since they're converted from the original recording and not some fan's degraded VHS tape from the 1980s. Searching for a song on MTV's site is still a lot better than Youtube, though, since you generally get the song without having to sift through all the other crap on Youtube,...

Not available outside US! (1)

TheVidiot (549995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553271)

I need a geo-proxy of some kind.... any ideas? Thanks

applefanboy (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553279)

apple rule!

No international market, huh? (1)

GBC (981160) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553293)

Incredibly enough, there are some music fans that actually live outside the US. Obviously MTV doesn't think we are a large demographic given this message: "Copyright restricts us from playing this video outside the U.S."

Just another reason they are irrelevant - sad really, given I used to love MTV growing up (then again, that was way back when the M stood for music).

Re:No international market, huh? (1)

ErkDemon (1202789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553579)

Maybe their policy is that everyone outside the US ought to be getting their pop videos off BitTorrent.

Sigh. They go out of their way to make sure that a great swathe of potential law-abiding customers can't get their product by any legitimate means - they basically slam the door in these customers faces and say, we're refusing to sell to you -- and then they act surprised when some of those unsuccessful customers slink off and find alternative, less legal ways of getting hold of the content.

Firefox 3 on Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553303)

I've just tried to watch "Nothing else matters" by Metallica and Firefox crashed. I use Flashblock, so while the page loads, as you click through the Flashblock DIV, the whole thing goes down the Swanee. It did this twice in a row in exactly the same way.

USA Only? (4, Interesting)

ErkDemon (1202789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553307)

COPYRIGHTS RESTRICT US
FROM PLAYING THIS VIDEO
OUTSIDE THE U.S.

So this site will shortly be eliminating pretty much all the competing sources of music videos on the web, but nobody outside the US is going to be able to watch it?

Geographical firewalls on websites are a really bad idea. They're anti-www, anti free trade, and they Piss People Off. They make large chunks of the world population feel discriminated against, and resentful against the company or industry or country that's stopping them from being able to watch or read what other people can watch and read.

They also make it more difficult to complain about other country-specific blocks, like China blocking its own population from being able to access certain external political sites. The more companies do this, the more frustrating the web will become.

It's still some corporation that thinks they know. (2, Insightful)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553311)

It's still some corporation that thinks they know what it is I want to see.. right off the bat I tried...
1. XTC
2. Wall of Voodoo
3. Human League


Granted these are niche bands...nothing on any of these.

When MTV gets around to allowing users to upload videos and then replacing them with their own pristine copies, I'll be impressed. Maybe they should have tried THAT model.

Re:It's still some corporation that thinks they kn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553627)

So there you've got...
1.) A british band
2.) A band no one's heard of from the 80s
3.) A british band no one's heard of from the 80s

And you expected MTV (both decidedly not british and not in the 80s) to field music videos of these guys on their new website? *raises eyebrow*

Re:It's still some corporation that thinks they kn (1)

eulernet (1132389) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553885)

Come on, all these groups are more than 30 years old.
I'm also a fan of Human League, and it's a group from 1977 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_League [wikipedia.org]

I remember a vague video from them at that time, but all these groups were not known from their clips. From 1980, the only video I remember was from a group named Aha.

Argh, I'm feeling old now !

Re:It's still some corporation that thinks they kn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553961)

I was thinking the same, but searching for Dream Theater, far from a mainstream band, gave me more video's than expected.

And their "country of origin tracker" has some hickups. I could watch the video's fine, but a friend of mine could not (both from the Netherlands).

allmusic.com (2, Informative)

pretygrrl (465212) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553371)

allmusic.com has a huge selection of videos, im guessing legally, as they are a huge site thats been around forever.
i haven't had it happen where I looked for a video and not found it there.
i bet they got more selection now than mtv will in 2 yrs.

Re:allmusic.com (1)

ErkDemon (1202789) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553501)

I just had a peek at allmusic.com, and they don't seem to be so good at "popular" pop.

Their search engine seems to be able to find precisely two videos by Madonna, and three by the "Britney" person. Nothing by Michael Jackson. Maybe that's how their users like it, but they don't exactly seem to be aiming for MTV's market.

MTV does music now? (1)

Khelder (34398) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553433)

So MTV is branching out into music, huh? Interesting.

"After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network."
                      -The Onion

How did they do it? (1)

initcrash (1363765) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553465)

When i click on any Video on this site Firefox crashes. (youtube works)

Why (2, Informative)

Chutulu (982382) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553475)

the fuck is a band like Morbid Angel stuffed in a "Rock" category? And no Burzum or Bathory videos? This suxs.

Re:Why (1)

thunrida (950858) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554051)

Yes, ffs, how can they put pop music under rock. But seriously, it's so much stuff missing it's useless unless. Searching dissection gives me some black rappers (or at least that is what they look like), Cactus search retunrs some gay looking guys and Uriah Heep returns nothing - which is good considering previous hits. Useless, if you dont' listen to Kelly Family.

Music videos? (1)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553481)

People still watch music videos?

Well, for those of us not in the US this fails (1)

kcbanner (929309) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553483)

I can't view most of the videos do to copyright issues. Well, looks like they wasted their time with this.

Obscured videos (2, Interesting)

implowry (989364) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553489)

I stopped watching all MTV channels when they decided to show half the actual video. When they do show videos they are 75% obscured by 5 not so invisible station identification emblems. Like I can't figure out what station I'm watching.

Do I dare mention the enormous banners that either pop on screen or just stay there, telling you how you should watch the video you're trying to watch. I think I hate all of those things even more than Lewis Black [youtube.com] does.

I'm sure that watching the videos on the computer in miniature resolution and poor audio quality with popups all over the place causing more epileptic seizures than the video itself is capable of, will be a pleasurable experience.

Re:Obscured videos (1)

British (51765) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554399)

They had a program called AMP in the mid-90s. Great show. Lots of interesting videos. About a year into the show, they went from playing full-length videos to "samples" of the videos for some bizarre reason. They screwed up a perfectly good show.

Slashdot material?? (0, Offtopic)

kingsteve612 (1241114) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553523)

I don't think this is really slashdot material. do any /.ers really watch mtv? i rarely watch TV, let alone MTV.

The USA Wide Web (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553575)

Why is the URL WWW.etc when I can't play things outside the USA?

Disappointing (1)

JoeWalsh (32530) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553669)

No 'Men Without Hats,' crashes Firefox on Mac OS X, lame.

Re:Disappointing (4, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553763)

I guess in your case, you *can't* dance if you want to.

Censorship (5, Interesting)

Fireye (415617) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553673)

I was perusing this yesterday, and came across the Weird Al video "Don't Download This Song". One line in the original song goes:
o/~ Like Morpheus or Grokster or Limewire or KaZaA o/~

But the version on the new MTV site goes:
o/~ Like *beep* or *beep* or *beep* or *beep* o/~

Does anyone know if it was aired on MTV/VH1 this way, or is this unique to the web version?

MTV: http://www.mtvmusic.com/video/?id=108884 [mtvmusic.com]
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-grdpKVqg [youtube.com]

blah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553777)

hello

Is this different than the VH1 Classic site? (2, Interesting)

Yesfan001 (1060170) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553889)

At http://www.vh1classic.com/browse/video/17278/featured-playlists/index.jhtml [vh1classic.com] , you can play lots of videos.

These have been available on the VH1 Classic site for quite some time now, I believe.

Since MTV and VH1/VH1 Classic share the same corporate parent, maybe they've just now added the VH1 Classic video content to MTV's site.

Pete

MTV Video site (1)

RonMcMahon (544607) | more than 5 years ago | (#25553975)

Funny how I can *see* a picture from the video, but to actually string them together in a stream is somehow a violation of copyright here in Canada, so MTV blocks my ability to view ANY content on this site, except, of course a picture from a portion of the video. Canada has copyright laws. We share a Free Trade Agreement in commerce with the United States. We also share a similar common-law-based law code, and we even view American television networks on our cable TV, yet somehow streaming video and audio over the Internet is an absolute no-no due to copyright laws? I think not. Viewing a video over the Internet is no more an infraction (if one actually exists) than for me to view an American television network signal over the air (in some Canadian border communities) or via satellite or cable transmission. If someone actually has the knowledge of what portion of American or Canadian law is being infringed via an Internet-based signal, I'd welcome the information...

Does it work outside the US? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25553977)

I'm in the UK and every video I click on tells me this video isn't available outside the USA. At least youtube undertsand that the rest of the world exist!

The quality sucks! (1)

UncleMantis (933076) | more than 5 years ago | (#25554319)

I have seen better full screen video quality on free porn sites. The audio is not bad but you can tell they are ripping from their old unused betamax tapes.

MTV you are just too late. Sorry. I torrent my videos like everyone else.

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