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NASA's Hubble Space Telescope Is Back In Business

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the at-least-mars-has-no-elections-right-now dept.

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Matt_dk writes "Just a couple of days after the orbiting observatory was brought back online, Hubble aimed its prime working camera, the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 (WFPC2), at a particularly intriguing target, a pair of gravitationally interacting galaxies called Arp 147. The image demonstrated that the camera is working exactly as it was before going offline, thereby scoring a 'perfect 10 both for performance and beauty.' (Meanwhile, the slowly declining Mars Phoenix Lander has now entered safe mode, according to reader CraftyJack.)

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Safe mode? (2, Funny)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572781)

The Mars Lander entered safe mode? Why do I have bad shivers all of a sudden? Must be my conditioned response from Windows.

Re:Safe mode? (0)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573073)

Vista decided that the Lander was running an unlicensed copy...

(Yes, I know that it's most likely using VxWorks)

Re:Safe mode? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574169)

Yes. From the ping times, the OS determined it was no longer on or orbiting planet earth, and thus, required an additional "non-terrestrial" license.

In Microsoft's defense, it did put up a dialog with a phone number to call to purchase the license.

Lander, not Rover (5, Informative)

Ertman (29767) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572801)

It's the Mars Lander (Phoenix), not the Mars Rover, that is going into standby.

Re:Lander, not Rover (4, Funny)

RockMFR (1022315) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573031)

Clearly we need to be giving more original names to these things. What will happen when humans colonize the planet?

Mr Mars: "So, where do you live?"
Mr Mars: "I live on Mars Street in Mars City."
Mr Mars: "Oh really? So do I! Where do you work?"
Mr Mars: "Mars Corporation."
Mr Mars: "No way!"
Mars Dog: "woof woof"

Re:Lander, not Rover (5, Funny)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573101)

To be fair, we did name these things. The Lander is called the Phoenix, and the two current Mars Rovers are Spirit and Opportunity. Of course, if we keep this up, Mars will begin to sound like a highly patriotic US-version of Harry Potter. :-)

Re:Lander, not Rover (4, Funny)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573613)

As seen in the next Harry Potter books Harry Potter and the Stars, Stripes and Galaxies and Harry Potter and the Martian Real Estate Bubble.

Re:Lander, not Rover (0, Offtopic)

Cowmonaut (989226) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574543)

How many boards would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hordes got bored?

Fixed it for ya.

Re:Lander, not Rover (1)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574653)

Yeah, yeah, it was a typo. Thanks for the help, fellow Calvin and Hobbes lovers. :-)

Re:Lander, not Rover (1)

ozbird (127571) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575023)

Sounds more like anime characters to me, but then I'm not a rocket scientist.

Re:Lander, not Rover (1)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574827)

Yep, the Mars Rovers did not die before Vista came out.

They seem to be well engineered and have a longer shelf life.

Let's hope (0)

EraserMouseMan (847479) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572809)

Nothing else breaks before the rescheduled repair mission. With equipment this old if things keep breaking the mission could keep getting rescheduled over and over. [fingers crossed]

Re:Let's hope (1)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572905)

Good call. It'd really be a shame for the project to end so abruptly. Though, I don't think we'll see the successes we had of the Mars Rovers, especially, since they lasted way beyond their expected life. I think their mobility really helped that along, and the lack of that is killing the current lander.

Re:Let's hope (1)

f1vlad (1253784) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573217)

I am still amazed how long those rovers lasted.

Re:Let's hope (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573735)

you morons, they lowballed the lifetime to an insane degree b.c funding and publicity concerns

Re:Let's hope (1)

f1vlad (1253784) | more than 5 years ago | (#25579941)

Thanks for enlightening us you apparent genius.

Re:Let's hope (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573071)

Taken from a comment on
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/30/hubble-telescope-back-on-the-air/

# Dan Fischer Says:
October 30th, 2008 at 10:09 am

Seems youâ(TM)ve missed the new bad news for Hubble [flightglobal.com] , namely trouble with the ground spare that is to go up with the shuttle - this mission is now in danger. Todays NASA telecon (at 21:00 UTC) will be interesting â¦

good news: it's back in business (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25572813)

bad news: gnaa hacked it to only show goatse

Still blurry (0)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572849)

The photos in the article are still pretty unfocused. How much did they really fix?

Re:Still blurry (4, Informative)

Chaos Incarnate (772793) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573017)

It's unfocused because it's not a true visible-light image, and because it's assembled from three images taken over two days. Drift happens.

Re:Still blurry (2, Insightful)

photonic (584757) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573719)

It's unfocused because it's not a true visible-light image, and because it's assembled from three images taken over two days. Drift happens.

Citation needed. Focusing has nothing to do with light being visible. You can focus shorter wavelengths like x-rays or longer wavelengths like they do in radio astronomy. And you claim about drift (of focus?) is also odd. I don't know anything about Hubble's focusing mechanism, but I assume they either do it for every image, or they only calibrate it every month or so. It is not like they let their camera slowly drift out of focus over a few days or so. Drift in pointing should also not happen, since Hubble has one of most accurate guidance sensors up there in space.

Re:Still blurry (1)

Chaos Incarnate (772793) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574025)

Citation for it not being a true visible-light image: TFA. Yes, you can focus the other wavelengths, but they're not necessarily all emitting in the same shape, so when combined they don't necessarily fit together right. (I think that's poorly explained, for which I apologize.)

As for the drift, I was referring to the physical objects themselves (both Hubble and the galaxies); if they move between when each of the three pictures were taken, they won't line up exactly in the final image where they're combined, resulting in a blurred appearance.

Re:Still blurry (3, Interesting)

photonic (584757) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574591)

No. Apart from objects that emit at different 'shapes' due to different physics (stellar dust in the infrared, some stars towards UV or X-ray), a star emits more or less in the same 'shape' at all wavelengths. You will see it more blurry at long wavelengths than at shorter onces, but that is due to the diffraction limit [wikipedia.org] , but that has nothing to do with focusing. And galaxies do not drift over a span of a few days. You'd be happy if you see a nearby star move by a few arc-seconds over half a year, and those are within our own galaxy. As mentioned before, Hubble has state of the art fine guidance sensors [wikipedia.org] , so I do not expect any drift in Hubble either. Overlapping a few images is also easy, you just use a few point like stars that appear in all colors.

Re:Still blurry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25576983)

You'd be happy if you see a nearby star move by a few arc-seconds over half a year

I see a nearby star drifting 360 degrees every 24 hours, and I'm not even slightly happy about it. :-(

Re:Still blurry (1)

dimeglio (456244) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573839)

I think for a picture of something that's 400 million light year away, it's pretty sharp. If you look carefully, you can even see the face of the amazing Mephistopheles at the bottom of the bluish galaxy (the orangy part). Just in time for Haloween.

Re:Still blurry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573877)

Mod parent down, his comment makes no sense at all.

Rover? (1)

gregoryb (306233) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572897)

They're not shutting down the Mars Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, correct? They're talking about shutting down the Lander, Phoenix. The Rovers are still going strong.

Re:Rover? (5, Informative)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572981)

Lots of confusion...but yes, Spirit and Opportunity are still going strong. It's the Mars Lander Phoenix that's entering safe mode due to failing electronics and deteriorating climate.

Re:Rover? (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575055)

Lots of confusion...but yes, Spirit and Opportunity are still going strong. It's the Mars Lander Phoenix that's entering safe mode due to failing electronics and deteriorating climate.

Deteriorating climate?
Surely the climate is fairly stable on Mars, and it's just seasons and weather changes?
Or is Mars undergoing climate changes?

Re:Rover? (1)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575307)

I meant as in worsening weather conditions. The area the Mars Lander is in has gotten much colder this week and it has been forced to stop scientific functions and focus solely on preserving itself (heating, etc.).

Don't tag everything 'story'! (-1)

tsa (15680) | more than 5 years ago | (#25572995)

This is not a story, it's a news fact. The person who tags everything 'story' should at least know what a story is. So here we go (from OSX's Dictionary):

STORY 1
noun ( pl. -ries)
1 an account of imaginary or real people and events told for entertainment : an adventure story | I'm going to tell you a story.
- a plot or story line : the novel has a good story.
- a report of an item of news in a newspaper, magazine, or news broadcast : stories in the local papers.
- a piece of gossip; a rumor : there have been lots of stories going around, as you can imagine.
- informal a false statement or explanation; a lie : Ellie never told stories --she had always believed in the truth.
2 an account of past events in someone's life or in the evolution of something : the story of modern farming | the film is based on a true story.
- a particular person's representation of the facts of a matter, esp. as given in self-defense : during police interviews, Harper changed his story.
- [in sing. ] a situation viewed in terms of the information known about it or its similarity to another : having such information is useful, but it is not the whole story | many children with leukemia now survive--twenty years ago it was a very different story.
PHRASES
but that's another story informal used after raising a matter to indicate that one does not want to expand on it for now.
end of story informal used to emphasize that there is nothing to add on a matter just mentioned : Men don't cry in public. End of story.
it's a long story informal used to indicate that, for now, one does not want to talk about something that is too involved or painful.
it's (or that's) the story of one's life informal used to lament the fact that a particular misfortune has happened too often in one's experience : "It's the story of my life," my mother would say when she returned home from a sale empty-handed.
the same old story used to indicate that a particular bad situation is tediously familiar : are we not faced with the same old story of a badly managed project?
the story goes it is said or rumored : the story goes that he's fallen out with his friends.
to make (or Brit. cut) a long story short used to end an account of events quickly : to make a long story short, I married Stephen.
ORIGIN Middle English (denoting a historical account or representation): shortening of Anglo-Norman French estorie, from Latin historia (see history ).
story 2
noun
a part of a building comprising all the rooms that are on the same level : [in combination ] a three-story building.
DERIVATIVES
storied |ˈstɔrid| ( Brit. also storeyed) adjective : [in combination ] four-storied houses.
ORIGIN late Middle English : shortening of Latin historia 'history, story,' a special use in Anglo-Latin, perhaps originally denoting a tier of painted windows or sculptures on the front of a building (representing a historical subject).
Story
Story, Joseph (1779-1845), U.S. Supreme Court associate justice 1811-45. Appointed to the Court by President Madison, he was the youngest associate justice ever to serve. He established the supremacy of Supreme Court rulings.

FACT
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case : she lacks political experience--a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public | a body of fact.
- ( the fact that) used in discussing the significance of something that is the case : the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut.
- (usu. facts) a piece of information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.
- chiefly Law the truth about events as opposed to interpretation : there was a question of fact as to whether they had received the letter.
PHRASES
before (or after) the fact before (or after) the committing of a crime : an accessory before the fact.
a fact of life something that must be accepted as true and unchanging, even if it is unpleasant : it is a fact of life that young girls write horrible things about people in their diaries.
facts and figures precise details.
the facts of life information about sexual functions and practices, esp. as given to children.
the fact of the matter the truth.
in ( point of) fact used to emphasize the truth of an assertion, esp. one contrary to what might be expected or what has been asserted : Aunt Madeline isn't in fact an aunt but a more distant relative.
ORIGIN late 15th cent.: from Latin factum, neuter past participle of facere 'do.' The original sense was [an act or feat,] later [bad deed, a crime,] surviving in the phrase before (or after) the fact. The earliest of the current senses ( [truth, reality] ) dates from the late 16th cent.

The Rover is just "collecting science" (3, Funny)

svnt (697929) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573061)

I knew those NASA guys were sandbagging.

Claiming to be carrying out "experiments" with "hypotheses," ha!

Re:The Rover is just "collecting science" (2, Funny)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573913)

Actually, science is a very limited resource and one of the Mars missions' most important goals is to see if Mars has any substantial science ore deposits and how we could mine them. It turned out that Martian soil actually contains small lumps of high-purity science ore, which the rovers collect. NASA is working on remotely using that almost-pure science to generate further insights into the Martian science deposits before Martian winter kills off the electronics. However, using impure science with equipment not designed for it has a high chance of failure and might, for example, generate data implying that tabletop cold fusion works.

NASA has already tried to remotely solve an issue by remotely throwing Martian science ore at it: The design of the Space Shuttle successor platform. The result was the Ares V launch vehicle, which now required copious amounts of refined Earth science to work around the scientific flaws caused by Martian science impurities. They have learned their lesson about lightly using insufficiently-refined science the hard way.

Unfortunately the NASA budget doesn't allow them to buy as much science as they would need so nowadays they usually rely on either recycled second-hand science or alternative sources of science like Mars. That's also why they desperately want to get Hubble back online - it was launched with a substantial science stockpile onboard and they really need to tap into that, even if the Hubble design limits the applications of onboard science mostly to deep-space observation.

Given how much science might be found on Mars I think NASA should really try to get Congress to open parts of the National Science Reserve to them - after all, if they manage to get a small science refinery up there they might relieve the already-strained world supply (and generate quite a bit of money by selling access to Martian science to other countries). This is especially important as leading science experts predict that we might reach peak science in less than twenty years.

Re:The Rover is just "collecting science" (1)

FreeFull (1043860) | more than 5 years ago | (#25581281)

Mod parent up. This deserves the score of 5.

Re:The Rover is just "collecting science" (1)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 5 years ago | (#25576211)

I can't wait till the japanese send out scientific vessels to nearby planets. To perform scientific "experiments" on the wildlife. Experiments where the wildlife ends up in meals back home [ipsnews.net] .

Hubble could never be 'a perfect 10' (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573095)

Hubble had lens implants.

zzzz (5, Informative)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573175)

The lander may be shutting down, but its work remembering that its done its job and exceeded 2.5 times its planned life span.

If everything I designed lasted 2.5 times its product life I would be happy.

Re:zzzz (1, Informative)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573245)

I don't know if the Phoenix is past its expect life yet. I thought the project was expected to go until the end of the year. It is the Mars Rovers that have gone way past their expected life, as they landed back in 2004.

Re:zzzz (2, Informative)

tgd (2822) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573733)

Its 2.5 times past its expected life.

The rovers are like cockroaches, nothing will kill them. They're closer to 20x.

Re:zzzz (2, Informative)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 5 years ago | (#25577885)

Its 2.5 times past its expected life.

The rovers are like cockroaches, nothing will kill them. They're closer to 20x.

Phoenix is at the end of its expected life of three to four months, which differs from it's planned primary mission lifespan of only 90 days. Note that not all the ovens have been used during the primary mission, as the craft was expected to last longer.

The rovers also had only 90 day primary missions. They are now 5 years past that, just about x20 that you mention.

Re:zzzz (1)

FreeFull (1043860) | more than 5 years ago | (#25581365)

Hubble is past its expected life by years. The folks at NASA are surprised it still works.

Re:zzzz (1)

alexj33 (968322) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574111)

If you meet a wolf, would a wolf wolf meat with a "woof woof" in a wolf meet?

Re:zzzz (1)

EagleRock (973742) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574281)

Of course not, silly. Lawn chairs don't have spectrometers.

Re:zzzz (1)

redxxx (1194349) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573953)

It's not shutting down per se. It's in a polar region and winter is coming, it's diverting most of the diminishing solar energy it receives to generating hear, so it won't be damaged by the cold. It will still be operational, just operating in a mode that isn't very useful for doing science.

Nothing's broken. It's last longer than was planned, and now they are taking steps so there is a chance it will last longer still.

Re:zzzz (1)

Nyeerrmm (940927) | more than 5 years ago | (#25577191)

Actually from what I've heard its marginally broken. They were having trouble getting it into safe mode but managed to communicate with it and shut it down yesterday. However, its not responding today, so it seems it doesnt have enough reserve power to keep itself properly warmed. However, my friend (who was telling me about the issues today) mentioned some kind of "Lazarus Mode" that may let it wake up again come spring.

And apparently they're still able to get a lot of good climatological data off of it, among other things, so its definitely worth keeping alive; I say this because my default assumption was that because it can't move its inherently limited lifetime, that after a certain period of time it couldn't get much new data.

Re:zzzz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25581937)

You'd think they'd have the batteries set to charge by default, so as soon as there's enough juice in them to function come spring, the system could start up again

Not Quite (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574067)

The primary mission was planned to take 92 days, and we are currently on day 158 and counting, a factor of about 1.76 so far. Furthermore that 92 days was just the tentative science schedule, not the designed lifespan. The lander was designed to last until winter hit.

Re:zzzz (2, Informative)

CheshireCatCO (185193) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574381)

To be fair, the 90 days wasn't really a planned lifespan, that was the prime mission that they needed to finish to be a "success". I suspect that the reason for this is partly funding: NASA likes to fund projects in increments in case something does go wrong. (They don't write a lot of software until the spacecraft is successfully launched, for example.) Plus, but low-balling the life expectancy, they can amaze everyone with what a great bargain the mission is when it outlives it.

I don't think anyone really expected the Phoenix lander to die at around 90 days in as much as almost all missions that are successful in any reasonable sense (in other words, don't blow up on launch, miss Mars, or whatever) outlive their nominal missions by quite a bit. Look at Voyager, Pioneer, Galileo, or Cassini.

Can the next lander take nuclear power please? (1)

Morgaine (4316) | more than 5 years ago | (#25578955)

The most interesting thing by far for the next polar (or near-polar) Mars lander to do would be to watch the winter ice caps develop around it.

After all, every single Mars mission mentions the possibility of life and water in the history of Mars, so that does seem to be important to us. Yet, there are millions of tons of water ice at the Martian poles, and given the amazing adaptability of life to extreme conditions on Earth, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility for life (of some sort) to exist at the poles of Mars despite the absence of water in liquid phase.

It's worth noting that liquid water isn't needed *permanently* for life to survive, but only occasionally for certain processes to proceed. There's not much water in space after all, yet some fairly high-level organisms manage to survive the hard vacuum for extended periods of time. Life seems to be amazingly resilient when needed.

But a polar Mars mission designed to survive and operate throughout the winter would need atomic power, and that's the big problem. Are we likely to see public anti-nuclear sentiment loosen up a little anytime in the next 20 years, to allow a series of such probes to be built and launched?

Do you see wheels ? No ? Then it's not a "Rover", (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573209)

You are too stupid to post Science stories.

Funding to the right place? (2, Interesting)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573625)

And now back to our regularly scheduled program "Diverting Funding from New Space Telescope Technology"

I am your host, Marlin Perkins, and this week, we are sending Jim into space to repair the HST instead of focusing our funding on newer telescope technology.

I understand that the James Webb telescope thingy is not a visible light 'scope. But, do you wonder what kind of HST replacement we could have had already if we had not spent so much time and money on repairs?

Re:Funding to the right place? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573935)

Probably.. nothing.

Remember, the reason why they're going up to fix Hubble is because it's been making pretty pictures for so long that the average public knows the telescope by name.

You say "Hubble Telescope" to most people, and they may mention a space shot that they saw somewhere, you mention "James Webb Telescope" and they'll ask,"Isn't that somewhere like Hawaii?"

What they really need to do with any successor to Hubble is to have it image the same sites as Hubble for a year, and then do side-by-side shots comparing photos. And introduce it as a successor to Hubble. Then people will start to accept it.

But what would be awesome for most people would be to send up a shuttle after Orion (private or otherwise) that had the capability of bringing Hubble back to Earth to put it in the Smithsonian when Hubble goes dark.

Re:Funding to the right place? (2, Informative)

CheshireCatCO (185193) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574521)

Well, let's think about that, shall we? HST's total cost was about $1.5 billion when it was launched in 1990. (If that figure is 1990 dollars, it's nearly $2.5 billion now.) Being generous, we can figure a shuttle repair mission is around $0.5 billion, so four servicing missions are worth about $2 billion, comparable to the cost of a new Hubble. James Webb ST, by comparison, is estimated to cost $4.5 billion over its lifetime, so you'd get half of a new 'scope for the cost of keeping the old one working.

As with most things, wearing out what you have is more economical than buying a new one (no matter what advertisers want us to think).

On the other hand, if you really want new telescopes, you'd be best-served to not play them off of each other. This isn't a zero sum game and NASA's budget is a trifle compared to other Federal agencies. Rather than denigrated HST, why not seek them money from DoD research projects, for instance?

Re:Funding to the right place? (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575035)

But, do you wonder what kind of HST replacement we could have had already if we had not spent so much time and money on repairs?

What do you mean, "already"? There would have had to have been a proposal many years ago in order to be operational today. As far as I know, the James Webb was the first space telescope proposed after Hubble, it's not supposed to go online until 2013, and there are no plans even as of today for a new visible light space telescope. Also as far as I know, the Hubble service missions have not impacted the plan for the JWST.

So while I can imagine many things, practically speaking the only visible light space telescope I see us having without the repairs to Hubble is no visible light space telescope.

Re:Funding to the right place? (1)

Nyeerrmm (940927) | more than 5 years ago | (#25577425)

In addition to the previous posters, who seem pretty on top of it, identifying that repairs are still cheaper than a new one, I'd also point out that space-based visible telescopes aren't as important now as they were in the nineties. The main reason to get it off of the surface is to eliminate the 'seeing' effects of the atmosphere, the way turbulence distorts signals and reduces the maximum resolution to ~1 arcsec (I think). This is the same reason that the big ones are built in high, arid places.

One of the biggest developments since then is the implementation of adaptive optics systems, which use active controls to warp the mirrors and eliminate the errors caused by atmospheric perturbations. This theoretically allows a ground-based telescope to achieve diffraction-limited resolution; I say theoretically because as far as I know most implementations suffer from a situation where you'll get top performance only a fraction of the time. However, it does mean you can get a much larger scope for much cheaper, reducing the utility of a space telescope.

A Hubble-style design is limited by weight and volume to about the size it is now, meaning that you can't do much to improve it, except with electronics to improve throughput. It's limited because it requires holding the entire structure stiff, to within ~10 nanometers, through all of launch and deployment, and without drastically larger launch vehicles, thats what we're left with. Of course, going to a flexible adaptive structure, like that of JWST, could allow much larger, lighter scopes to be deployed in space. But considering that JWST was quoted above as being ~$4bln, in order to improve it to optical precision would probably raise it to $6bln. So maybe one day, but the cost/benefit ratio just doesn't seem to get you there at this point... particularly when HST can be kept running for another 5 years for only $.5bln.

Why JWST is still going though, is because much of the IR range is blocked by the atmosphere, so theres no way to use any kind of advanced control technology to remove the problems caused by the atmosphere.

Re:Funding to the right place? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25577601)

i know the Hubble isn't perfect. but i get a little excited every time i hear that the hubble escaped death

Safe mode (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573703)

I hope they picked "with networking".

...Mars Rover has now entered safe mode (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25573743)

Wow, I didn't know it had a F8 key.

Now that we're in safe mode... (5, Funny)

roachdabug (1198259) | more than 5 years ago | (#25573783)

I guess now we can only get images in 640x480 with 256 colors...

Safe mode... (3, Funny)

BUL2294 (1081735) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574027)

Well, at least they chose "Safe Mode with Networking" and now will be able to look at NTBTLOG.TXT from a distance. Of course, given that it takes up to 40 minutes for round-trip communications to happen, they had to change the default setting from 30 seconds to 2400+ seconds, otherwise the lander's would have died before loading the power monitoring service--resulting in an infinite loop.

how f*cking cool is that picture ? (1)

cats-paw (34890) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574033)

One galaxy going _through_ another ?

Mind boggling !

Re:how f*cking cool is that picture ? (2, Interesting)

Ollabelle (980205) | more than 5 years ago | (#25574197)

Yeah, but I'm disappointed NASA didn't post a picture big enough to use as a desktop.

Re:how f*cking cool is that picture ? (2, Informative)

Chris Tucker (302549) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575049)

Ollabelle, take a look here [hubblesite.org] for some larger images, including a TIFF which should be scalable to your desktop size.

Re:how f*cking cool is that picture ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25578743)

Thanks muchly. :-)

The top quality TIFF is 1457x1201. Although I could do some processing to bring it up to 1920x1200 for a full HD root window, I'd like to stick to non-interpolated Hubble images. Can you think of any related materials I could use to composit an "original" 1920x1200 of this shot?

Re:how f*cking cool is that picture ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25584291)

Yeah, but there are some larger versions on the HubbleSite:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2008/37/image/a/

Heh, don't even know how to make this an actual link, but you get the drift.

Re:how f*cking cool is that picture ? (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#25575249)

How fucking cool?

Super fucking cool!

Arp 147? (1)

adavies42 (746183) | more than 5 years ago | (#25577879)

Cue the Electric Universe evangelists in 3 ... 2 ...
Seriously, /. was full of them six months ago. I wonder where they all went?

The Irony of ARP 147 and Alton Arp and the Hubble (1)

quanta (16565) | more than 5 years ago | (#25578959)

Just look up the Wiki on Alton Harp.

And they took the 1st photo from the "repaired" Hubble and it's an ARP galaxy???

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Re:The Irony of ARP 147 and Alton Arp and the Hubb (1)

quanta (16565) | more than 5 years ago | (#25579005)

Uh, actually his name is Halton Arp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp [wikipedia.org]

We love you Hubble! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25578839)

Great to have you back!

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