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Magnetic Portals Connect Sun and Earth

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the no-cake-jokes-allowed dept.

Space 235

MaxwellEdison writes "Scientists have discovered evidence of magnetic portals connecting the Earth and the Sun every 8 minutes. 'Several speakers at the Workshop have outlined how FTEs form: On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun), Earth's magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly merge or "reconnect," forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth. The European Space Agency's fleet of four Cluster spacecraft and NASA's five THEMIS probes have flown through and surrounded these cylinders, measuring their dimensions and sensing the particles that shoot through.'"

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Another misleading headline (4, Insightful)

mbone (558574) | more than 5 years ago | (#25590995)

"Magnetic Portals Connect the Solar Wind and the Earth's Magnetosphere" would be much better.

Re:Another misleading headline (1)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591291)

I agree. My first impression was "If this were true, why hasn't the atmosphere boiled-off yet?"

Yes, but... (4, Insightful)

jd (1658) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591521)

(a) this is Slashdot, and (b) this is Halloween. How on Earth do you expect to find a sensible summary given a juxtaposition like that?

(c) Headline too long. (3, Insightful)

Xenographic (557057) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592015)

> (a) this is Slashdot, and (b) this is Halloween. How on Earth do you expect to find a sensible summary given a juxtaposition like that?

(c) That headline is too long.

It's (c) that kills a lot of good headlines, honestly, but there's only so much space on the front page for those headlines to fit.

Well-done, NASA! (5, Funny)

TrekkieTechie (1265532) | more than 5 years ago | (#25590997)

Now you're thinking with portals!

Re:Well-done, NASA! (5, Funny)

tcolberg (998885) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591263)

Speedy solar particles go in, speedy solar particles come out!

Re:Well-done, NASA! (1)

lattyware (934246) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591387)

Possibly the funniest thing I've seen in some time.

Re:Well-done, NASA! (3, Funny)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592045)

This next magnetic field configuration is impossible...

Re:Well-done, NASA! (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592069)

And, I might add
"there ain't no such thing as a free portal"

Re:Well-done, NASA! (1)

Archon-X (264195) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591517)

They do what they must, because they can...

Ack (-1, Flamebait)

Futile Rhetoric (1105323) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591009)

In before some electric universe kook claims that this proves what he's been saying all along.

8 light-minutes (5, Insightful)

Megahard (1053072) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591025)

Is the Earth-Sun distance. Coincidence?

Re:8 light-minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591259)

Yes.

Re:8 light-minutes (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591429)

There is probably some form of resenace effect going on after all magnetic fields propagate at the speed of light so a coincidence seems unlikely.

Re:8 light-minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25592191)

It takes light 8 minutes to get here hmmmmm.

Re:8 light-minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591329)

we would need data about other planets' magnetic fields to possibly find a correlation.

Re:8 light-minutes (1)

Molochi (555357) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591859)

I prefer anthropic to coincedence. Though it could be both.

Re:8 light-minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591995)

doh!

You just cost Sibeck $250,000 in funding.

Re:8 light-minutes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25592093)

Well, we know of one thing that is continuously going back and forth between Terra and Sol : gravity. This may actually be evidence of gravity waves / gravitons.

The Summary (5, Funny)

sokoban (142301) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591027)

Is a lie.

Re:The Summary (3, Funny)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591279)

Okay, that's good to know. Care to elaborate on why?

Re:The Summary (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591323)

Here's your homework: considering that the comment you replied to was awarded a "Funny" mod, find why this is, and why your comment was useless and/or stupid.

tl;dr: woosh.

Re:The Summary (3, Informative)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591439)

Was modded 'informative' earlier.

I'll elaborate for you (5, Funny)

apparently (756613) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591333)

O <-- this is the sun.

WHOOSH <-- this is the WHOOSH going over your head.
. <-- you.
o <-- this is the earth.

Re:I'll elaborate for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591495)

Who cares about a stupid video game? I got it, and still was not amused.

Re:I'll elaborate for you (1)

Kamokazi (1080091) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591717)

Obviously you haven't played Portal. I didn't think it was a huge deal at first, because the main gameplay element (portals) was as expected.

What was not expected was the personality and mannerisms of GlaDOS, the computer running the tests. That pretty much is what changed the game (for me) from being a novel puzzle game into a very entertaining 6-8 hours of gameplay.

Re:I'll elaborate for you (1)

svank (1301529) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591761)

O <-- this is the sun.

WHOOSH <-- this is the WHOOSH going over your head.
. <-- you.
o <-- this is the earth.

These things keep getting more and more elaborate. Anyone remember the days when it was sufficient to just say "WOOSH"?

Re:I'll elaborate for you (1)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592063)

Woosh? I my day we just had to point and laugh conspiratorially!

Re:I'll elaborate for you (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592171)

Well, you have to sort of point it out when the jokes whizzing by aren't that obvious. In this case, the joke was more or less an inside joke because it dealt with an adaptation of a saying that is found within a game.

Re:I'll elaborate for you (2, Funny)

master5o1 (1068594) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591945)

If I'm the dot, and the sun is the upper-case O, then you must be calling me fat you insensitive clod.

Re:The Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591341)

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

The explanation is a lie (5, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591493)

This article is about magnetic portals. Portal is also the title of a first-person adventure game for PC developed and published by Valve. One of the catchphrases from Portal is "The cake is a lie!", hence sokoban's comment "The summary is a lie".

Don't be silly (1)

10101001 10101001 (732688) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592073)

The summary can't be the cake because the cake is a lie!

Re:The Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591295)

The cake is a lie!?

Re:The Summary (1)

cryptoluddite (658517) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592013)

No, it wasn't a lie it was a triumph... no spelling errors, grammar mostly correct (except "Workshop" isn't a proper noun), working links -- almost like it had been edited by some kind of editor. Now, back to work; there's science to do, for the good of all of us.

Re:The Summary (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592149)

Well, Workshop can be a proper noun if the name of the workshop is Workshop. However, your right in that is doesn't appear to be used that way in the summery. Unless the author though it would be proper to drop the word plasma from the name "Plasma Workshop".

And yes, I probably made more errors in my post.

THEMIS Probes (5, Funny)

sokoban (142301) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591049)

Naw them ain't probes, them is aliens.

how long... (1)

sraviik (1375785) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591063)

how long until we can make use of this to gain FTL drives? or better yet Magnetic/Energy Force Barriers

Re:how long... (2, Funny)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591767)

i.e. to shoot your ass into the sun at the speed of light and prevent your stupid ass from breeding?

Re:how long... (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591881)

Until Wednesday.

STARGATE!!!! (5, Funny)

Macrat (638047) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591123)

Now we just need to find Daniel Jackson.

Re:STARGATE!!!! (3, Informative)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591213)

i rather find Jack Daniels :D

Re:STARGATE!!!! (4, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592117)

Can't be. The Sun isn't covered in Canadian forests.

Learn something new every day (5, Funny)

Quarters (18322) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591137)

On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun)

Really? How fascinating!

Re:Learn something new every day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591185)

Aye! Slashdot gets better every day!

Re:Learn something new every day (3, Funny)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591219)

Actually, I find this rather interesting. For me the next question is how can this, or how does this affect global climate?

Re:Learn something new every day (5, Funny)

TenDollarMan (1307733) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591435)

I'm from the day side of the earth and am really getting a kick out of these replies.

Re:Learn something new every day (5, Interesting)

lysergic.acid (845423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591787)

we, the people of the night side of earth, object to the hotheaded policies of the day side government. despite all of your anti-nighttime propaganda, your DST [wikipedia.org] ploy to temporally encroach on our borders is plain to see. thus you have broken the circadian treaty that has kept peace between our two nations. we will not stand for this diurnal threat to our coolheaded & peace-loving society.

we declare war on the heathen sun-worshipers to, once and for all, bring an end to their sidereal tyranny. the crepuscular revolution has begun!

Re:Learn something new every day (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591461)

On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun)

Really? How fascinating!

I'm a cubist [timecube.com] , you insensitive clod.

Point of the article (2)

NigelTheFrog (1292406) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591139)

From what I gather from one quote in the article, scientists always suspected these; it's the fact that it's not a constant connection that was news.

Re:Point of the article (0, Redundant)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591565)

You mean to say this is more like dial-up, than ADSL, which is an always-on connection?

lulwut?!

Fact checking (1)

Atari400 (1174925) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591167)

I read the article in 3 minutes, that only gives a 37.5% chance of a magnetic portal.

FTE = Flus Transfer Event (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591173)

Please, for the love of Helios and Demeter, spell out throw-away acronyms in summaries. It's annoying to read "Several speakers at the Workshop have outlined how FTEs form", and not being told what an FTE is. I really shouldn't have to RTFA[1] to discover that FTE = "Flux Transfer Event". It throws me off track when I read "how FTE are formed", and my brain translates to "how Frozen Talking Elephants are formed".

[1] If you need this acronym spelt out, perhaps you should be on digg.

how about the moon? (1)

nx6310 (1150553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591199)

wouldn't it be cool if the moon had the same effect?

Re:how about the moon? (3, Informative)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591795)

The moon does not have a giant molten core of metal being continuously entagled in the sun's magnetic field and forced to rotate by the constant orbit of the earth around the sun to generate more heat and its own counter-field.

Well at least we have (3, Interesting)

Troy (3118) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591229)

the main plot device for next summer's blockbuster movie (tentatively titled "Star Portal").

-T

PS. Porno directors are already casting for the X-rated adaptation, tentatively titled "Star Hole"

Re:Well at least we have (1)

sunami (751539) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591373)

The red, blue, and pick with black arrows picture in the article looks like a decent enough visual for Star Hole.

Ok, well now I know what happened to..... (0, Offtopic)

3seas (184403) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591255)

.... to my mod points

Who tagged "!ipods"? (1)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591277)

What could this possibly have to do with iPods? How could it possibly be confused with them?

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (4, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591347)

It doesn't have anything to do with iPods which is exactly why it was tagged NOT iPods.

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (1)

Vexorian (959249) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591759)

Nice, I haven't loled this much in slashdot for a while.

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (5, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591473)

Well... it is true at least, right?

Lets add other fun !-tags.

Lets see... !aardvark, !aardwolf, !aargau, !aare, !aaron, !aascu...

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (1)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591627)

How does one add a tag to a story, anyway?

And why do my posts never show up with the body of the post visible without clicking, whilst other users who post with a karma of 1 do have their posts show up with the body in view? I just browse at the default settings...

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (0, Offtopic)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591653)

Of course when I said karma, I meant score. My browse level is 1:45, threaded, oldest first.....

And while I'm at it how come in Opera 9.61 WinXP the Slashdot story headings show up as Black on Green which means I can't read the them without tilting my screen. I guess it just completes the whole don't RTFA and now I can't even RTFHeadings.. (works fine in FF3 btw)

it's been 4 minutes since I last posted a comment... AND???

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591809)

Zero interest in your personal life. Thanks.

Re:Who tagged "!ipods"? (1)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592089)

Click the arrow next to the tags to add your own. You need to be a member for at least six months, but I assume that's the case seeing as your UID is lower than mine and I can add tags just fine.

electric universe kooks (1, Interesting)

VisualFuture (411826) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591285)

Can anyone point me to some info on WHY the electric universe people are kooks?

Lately I find some of the EU theories easier to accept than "majick" dark matter, dark energy, and magnetic fields with no electric current.

"Magnetic reconnection" really?

Better hope other theoretical and imaginary lines don't start acting up!

Re:electric universe kooks (1)

JumperCable (673155) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591377)

Link to the Electric Universe Kooks Theory please.

Re:electric universe kooks (1, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591589)

> Can anyone point me to some info on WHY the electric universe people are kooks?

I should think that would be self-evident: they enjoy it.

> Lately I find some of the EU theories easier to accept than "majick" dark matter, dark
> energy, and magnetic fields with no electric current.

Perhaps it is time to review some basic physics.

> "Magnetic reconnection" really?

Wikipedia is your friend.

Aurora Borealis? (5, Interesting)

collywally (1223456) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591289)

FTA:
"the cylindrical portals tend to form above Earth's equator and then roll over Earth's winter pole"

I wonder if that's why the aurora borealis seems to crawl across the sky. I seem to remember (from when I lived in the high north) that it happened in fairly regular intervals. The "every eight minuets" seems to ring true as the time between each pass of the light though I haven't been there in eight years so I might just be remembering it wrong.

Re:Aurora Borealis? (1)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592079)

8 minutes between portals...
8 years since being far north (far from these portals)..
A UID divisible evenly by 8...

Hmm...

8.32 light minutes (5, Insightful)

Mal-2 (675116) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591313)

It is 93 million miles, or 8.32 light minutes, separating Sun and Earth (center to center) -- the magnetosphere will be slightly less. Coincidence? I hope they are investigating some sort of possible resonance or standing wave that is directly related to this distance.

Mal-2

Re:8.32 light minutes (4, Interesting)

jd (1658) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591505)

It struck me that there was a similarity between the timing of the portals and the distance, too. Now, we know of other planets in the solar system with a strong magnetosphere, so in addition to your suggestions, I'd also ask if NASA is looking to see if similar corridors exist for other planets and whether there is any similar correlation between their portals and distance.

Re:8.32 light minutes (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591841)

Gee, I bet it never crossed the collective mind of the astrophysicists who commissioned these probes and discovered this phenomenon, that there may be a possible correlation to the distance between Earth and Sun. Here's hoping they read Slashdot, or they may miss out!

Re:8.32 light minutes (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591909)

Do you think we should email them? You know.. just incase...

Planets Aligned (5, Interesting)

Dersaidin (954402) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591353)

So something cool might actually happen when all the planets are aligned? Portal from Sun to Neptune?

Re:Planets Aligned (1)

TenDollarMan (1307733) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591459)

Yeh.

But I'm gonna wait for the portal to Uranus.

Re:Planets Aligned (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591691)

Like, oh, say, around the winter solstice in 2012? Nah. That's just a coincidence. The Mayans were just crazy. Nothing to see here, move along.

Re:Planets Aligned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591951)

I'd settle for a pretty light show, though I'm more inclined to believe that the vast majority of interesting events involve very large rocks and intersecting orbits.

Re:Planets Aligned (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592053)

Well, the planets of the solar system are going into planetary alignment (Which occurs every 5,000 years), and I can tell you that a secret society called the Illuminati is seeking an ancient talisman that gives its possessor the ability to control time ; ).

let me be the first to say (3, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591445)

<keanureevesvoice>

"whoa"

</keanureevesvoice>

Re:let me be the first to say (3, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591547)

And the sequel:

<keanureevesvoice>

"whoa"

</keanureevesvoice>

Particles straight from the sun, (3, Funny)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591455)

and I'm still alive.

In the sun's magnetic portal,

and I'm still alive.

Adam Strange . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591483)

Could this be how Adam Strange's "Zeta" beam worked?

I guess that makes these two heavenly bodies (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591497)

"On the dayside of Earth (the side closest to the sun), Earth's magnetic field presses against the sun's magnetic field. Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly merge or "reconnect," forming a portal through which particles can flow. The portal takes the form of a magnetic cylinder about as wide as Earth."

"VERSATILE"!!!! LOL!!!

what can I say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591561)

Good news every one!

Re:what can I say... (1)

mattycole (1397921) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591871)

I wonder how this looks through the smelloscope.

Hmm... (1)

bpsbr_ernie (1121681) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591593)

So... is it the orange portal or blue portal... and where do you come out?

I would advise them against... (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591595)

stepping through the portal.

Re:I would advise them against... (2, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591695)

Dude. You've been watching wayyy too much SG-1. Really.

Can we use this to make energy? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591667)

I imagine this is a long shot. But, if these are magnetic. Could we in some conceivable fashion use them to make energy?

Stargate (1)

boshi (612264) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591699)

I'll wait for this to be confirmed by Richard Dean Anderson.

Well no wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25591749)

Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly..."reconnect"

My Sun-based Unencrypted Linksys router Wi-Fi connectivity is so shitty.

Stupid 8 minute latency, fukin' wit my ASCII internet pr0n.

z0mg more signs of the apocalypse (0, Flamebait)

pretygrrl (465212) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591799)

this is clearly further evidence of climate change! when will the authorities act? yet another sign of global warming, willfully ignored in the service of corporate greed! outrage. several committees must be formed, at once. they should proceed to publicly interogate someone to answer for these magnetic portals.

Flag on the play! Flag on the play! (1)

WheelDweller (108946) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591889)

My stories keep getting modded-down because 'everyone' here knows that science is never wrong. Yet, they're insecure in their philosophies that they prefer to 'burn my books' online.

For perhaps centuries we've been told the planets orbited each other because of gravity, only...if this is true, we were blind to this truth for centuries. Science was wrong, either way.

So maybe things like 'the Bible is just translated over and over until it means nothing" is farce too? Maybe when it calls out just about ever serious astronomical event (short of dying dinosaurs, because who cares 60M years later?) maybe the Bible could be true?

Nah, we're open minded here. Science is about investigating the truth no matter where it goes, unless it goes into 'that book'. :)

Still crap. (1)

surfcow (169572) | more than 5 years ago | (#25591975)

I suppose the other planets might have these portals too. Makes me view the new-age beliefs about "harmonic convergence", celestial alignment and astrology in a different light.

Still crap, but mildly more interesting crap.

Portal = Hole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25592009)

porÂtal
n.
1. A doorway, entrance, or gate, especially one that is large and imposing.

I think it is safe to use the word "hole" in place of "portal" here. I do not see anything magically skipping through ala Portal the Valve way. There is just a hole popping open in our magnetic shield every 8 minutes due to interference from another field.

Worst pick-up line ever. (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592097)

Approximately every eight minutes, the two fields briefly merge or "reconnect," forming a portal through which particles can flow.

I'm going outside and talk to the Earth about: "no glove, no love".

Portals or a series of tubes? (2, Interesting)

Camel Pilot (78781) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592155)

These portals I suspect are just a series of tubes.

The sun is just like a big truck that dumps particles into these tubes and it can be an enormous amount of material.

This message approved by the corrupt and out of touch Republicans for science

As Suspected... (1)

shrilaku (1223500) | more than 5 years ago | (#25592157)

m/(FTE|TheForce|Terramagnetoscope.net|Portal2Vega)/i
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