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Anonymous Anger Rampant On the Web

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the oh-now-this-too dept.

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the4thdimension writes "In a story that may bring out the 'duh' in you, CNN has a story about how anonymous anger is rampant on the Internet. Citing various reasons, it attempts to explain why sites like MyBiggestComplaint and Just Rage exist and why anger via the web seems to be everywhere. Various reasons include: anonymity, lack of rules, and lack of immediate consequences. Whatever the reason, they describe that online anger has resulted in real-life violence and suggest methods for parents and teens to cope with e-aggression and to learn to be aware of it." I can't figure out what makes me angrier: my habit of anonymously trolling web forums, or my video game playing.

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Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613519)

FUCK YOU!

Re:Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613665)

FUCK YOU!

That's what your mother did, asshole!

(Oh, wait, this is Slashdot. Even his mother didn't.)

Re:Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (0, Redundant)

Bomarc (306716) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613701)

And I'll bet that most of them played video games [slashdot.org] as a child.

Re:Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (1)

elthicko (1399175) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614347)

You, sir, need some e-anger-management. Hey, you may even run into Ballmer.

Re:Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (1)

electrictroy (912290) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614579)

>>>>>>>[expletive] YOU!

>>"lack of immediate consequences"

Is there any way I can track down this person's physical address? I have some "consequences" I want to share with him.

Re:Let Me Offer a Lemma on This Subject ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614685)

Don't give me that you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings! Shut your festering gob you tit! Your type makes me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!

Not news (5, Funny)

Stone Rhino (532581) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613537)

See here: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Not news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614043)

THIS BULLSHIT JUST PISSES ME OFF!

--Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING--

This too.

Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (-1, Redundant)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613543)

Let's start the discussion with an obligatory link to Penny-Arcade's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory [penny-arcade.com] .

Re:Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (5, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613843)

Nice job asshole, somebody already posted that fucking link.

Re:Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614049)

This whole article is full of off-topic comments.
FUCK!

Re:Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614435)

Fuck you, at least he's trying to post something constructive.

Dickwad.

Re:Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614649)

Nigger.

WTF r u taking aboot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613545)

Screw u mofo!!

I'm against anonymous anger. (4, Funny)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613547)

It distracts from pseudonymous anger, and that makes me mad.

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (5, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613797)

I prefer abominous anger. As in the snowman.

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (4, Funny)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613863)

I am more into ambiguous anger:

"I am angry at the parade I saw coming through the window!"

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (3, Funny)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614037)

I'm loving asynchronous anger, by which I get angrier at you than you do at me.

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614107)

Er...that would be asymmetrical anger.

-Posting as sm20591 since Chips & Dips....

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (3, Funny)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614339)

Yes, yes it would.
Time to get angry at myself...

Re:I'm against anonymous anger. (1)

karnal (22275) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614135)

I'd probably be angry if a parade came through my window too.

THIS IS FUCKING STUPID (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613551)

I'M NOT ANGRY. Those damn idiots think we're all angry, well I have news for them. Some of us ARE JUST SMARTER THAN YOU! Gaaaaaaaawwwdd! Thinking you're better than us and just LUMPING US ALL INTO ONE freakin group : the ANGRY?!?!?! JEEEEEESUS!

Ubuntu taking over? (0, Offtopic)

srussia (884021) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613557)

And did the code-naming scheme roll over already?

Re:Ubuntu taking over? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613707)

And did the code-naming scheme roll over already?

Ya, and they're switching to $EPITHET $EMOTION. Next up, Blissful Befuddlement.

I hate Slashdot (1)

rainhill (86347) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613563)

... because I can.

Stupid crap story (4, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613567)

on a stupid crap website.

Slashdot sucks, Digg's much better :)

Re:Stupid crap story (5, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613637)

shit, I forgot to click Post Anonymously.

Oh the irony :(

Re:Stupid crap story (1)

lymond01 (314120) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614351)

Having relieved yourself of your anonymity, I gather you feel better about your path in life?

Re:Stupid crap story (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614365)

If it makes you feel any better, I'd be really anonymously pissed off if my name was Rik Sweeney too. If you get married, take your wife's name. Try to look for a woman named Powers. Yeah. Rik Powers. That'd be cool.

Re:Stupid crap story (5, Funny)

gnick (1211984) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614479)

Rik Powers? No way.

Marry Michelle Rohl [wikipedia.org] .

Rik Rohl would be awesome.

Positive thing (5, Insightful)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613595)

Regardless of how extreme some people respond to some parts of anger, this is a pretty positive thing. I'd rather have someone rant about something online than go out and live out the murder they wished upon someone. /stabbity

Re:Positive thing (5, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613787)

I'd rather have someone rant about something online than go out and live out the murder they wished upon someone.

Why in the world would you think that these are mutually exclusive alternatives?

The "steam boiler" model of pop psychology has long been proven to be incorrect. Acting and speaking do not relieve pressure -- or at least very much pressure. Instead human emotions tend to follow feedback loops. Acting and speaking angrily lead to thinking angrily, which lead to further angry actions and speech.

The word used by psychologists for this feedback phenomenon is "refractory". Anger is a refractory state precisely because angry thoughts and actions lead to further angry thoughts and actions. It is not relief that puts an end to it, it's fatigue.

Look around at people who act or speak out their anger and those who try to moderate their anger. Who stays angry the longest? The next time you get angry, try to master that anger by thinking objective thoughts. Do you stay angry longer or less long?

Re:Positive thing (1)

CFTM (513264) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614155)

No doubt on this one, as it stands I have a bit of a temper; I've noticed that throughout the course of the day, if someone does something stupid or assinine that really gets under my skin (I'm in IT) it'll tend to cook and the one tiny thing and I'll go off the handle. Not really a great habit to have...

I blame it on my classes :)

Re:Positive thing (4, Insightful)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614083)

Various reasons include: anonymity, lack of rules, and lack of immediate consequences

Growing up, we are taught how to act "proper", and much of that involves keeping our emotions bottled up. Everyone gets frustrated with coworkers, on the road, etc. but rarely says anything for fear of consequences. Anger isn't any more rampant on the web than it is in real life, it is just expressed freely here.

So what is the article really suggesting? That we make rules to have everyone bottle up like normal? A lot of what people say on the net might be exaggerated, but I'm sure this is merely a symptom of finally being able to speak your mind, with the oppression of society lifted. It's like kids cussing a lot with friends because it's forbidden at home, then they grow up and suddenly they don't cuss at trivial things anymore, because they're free to do it.

So much better to go public... (5, Interesting)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613601)

I mean, I've gone from Excellent to Bad Karma in three days of raging on slashdot, and were I not on the verge of getting kicked off, I could go on raging for three days more and go for the mystical Evil rating.

Re:So much better to go public... (1)

Alpha Whisky (1264174) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614237)

Damn, I don't have any modpoints, I would have modded you informative for the ironic effect.

Re:So much better to go public... (1)

dedazo (737510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614305)

Keep it up and you can be the next twitter. Sockpuppets can't be far behind now.

Re:So much better to go public... (1)

gnick (1211984) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614563)

Actually, dedazo, you and WillyHill are the only 2 real slashdot users. The rest of us are all twitter sockpuppets - It's the only way to keep M$ off our scent. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Wouldn't they be angry anyway? (4, Interesting)

mgkimsal2 (200677) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613609)

Whatever the reason, they describe that online anger has resulted in real-life violence

Of course I didn't RTFA, but I have to wonder, to what extent would these people be angry about whatever they did anyway? I tend to get impatient/grumpy/angry in many situations, regardless of whether it's online or offline (in lines at the bank, stores, etc.). Yeah, it's a bit easier to vent online sometimes, in IM thread, some forums, and so on, but I've vented in public and with friends/colleagues offline for years, well before the world of 'online'.

Perhaps in a way its better than people do this online and stay away from other people in the real world to avoid physical harm to themselves and others.

Re:Wouldn't they be angry anyway? (4, Insightful)

Indras (515472) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614019)

Yes, but the difference is, if you vent in public with friends or coworkers, there's no trace of it left behind, except only vaguely in your memories, which are difficult to search and compile into a nice report.

Venting on the internet, however, is practically permanent.

Sad Really (5, Interesting)

mfh (56) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613611)

This reminds me of Lord of the Flies. The masks make the demons feel like they can act without consequence.

Personally I think it's good for our psyches to take some form of abuse as long as we have a strong coping mechanism, and a strategy to deal with it. Truth be told, flies that are the dirtiest when they are young actually live the longest. Clean flies die quickly. So what I'm saying is that rampant nerd rage is a good thing because people get stuff off their chest, and as long as people understand how to deal with internet rage, then they can actually become mentally stronger from being entangled in it. Reminds me of the Hellmouth stories too, and how that whole discussion was such a healing power for so many.

But it's sad we have to deal with such powerful demons, and that demons are so contagious.

Re:Sad Really (5, Funny)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614485)

So what I'm saying is that rampant nerd rage is a good thing because people get stuff off their chest...

Plus it gives you 10 strength and 50% damage resistance if your health drops below 20%.

Good (5, Insightful)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613613)

Good. There is a lot to be angry about, and people have been far too sheep-like for far too long.

Here's a fitting response to this article from the fictional Howard Beale:

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.

It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell,

and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

Re:Good (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613775)

Bitching and moaning is a worldwide pass-time. It's even easier to do when you won't get dunned for having done so, hence anonymity as a hallmark of the Internet. That and surfing to places where you don't want anyone to know it's really you.

In a world that's vastly more sophisticated than it once was, many have become terrible at getting rid of their stress. The need to vent and be heard is primal, and at least in the USA where I live, democracy isn't very satisfying in this regard with just two viable political parties.

It's really easy to bitch. It's much tougher and takes more bravery to do something practical about a problem. Therein lays, IMHO, the difference in people that are angry, and working on a better future.

Re:Good (4, Interesting)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614001)

You're right. But, the first thing they do is, they express their anger as anonymously as they can, to find out if they are alone, because they know if they are alone, they cannot act effectively.

If they are not alone, they will come to see this fact. Together.

Then, after they realize they are not alone, one person will stand up and say "My name is Joe Crazy. I am not going to take this anymore. Who is with me?"

And THIS is when they will start cleaning up their society.

And when they finally do, it will be gloriously violent, as those who have been exploiting the rule of law to oppress their fellow man are hoisted by their own petard.

They will be hoisted by the masses who finally realize that they do not wish to live in an oppressive, efficient society based on the rule of law with the faint hope that they might one day get to be Dictator Bush, but just want to co-operate, take care of their needs and spend the rest of their time enjoying their life.

It's inevitable.

Re:Good (1)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614221)

There is no glory in violence. It is the last refuge of the shnook.

Re:Good (1)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614641)

That is an empty opinion, an expression of your distaste for violence and your desire to redefine words that might elevate it to a virtue. Your words don't mean a damn thing.

When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor (5, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613961)

"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

I agree. What this calls for is a really stupid and futile gesture on somebody's part.

Re:When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor (1)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614549)

Or a road trip.

Re:Good (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614461)

Uh, there is a lot to be upset about, but angry?

Nah, what it comes down to is that too many people take offense at things that do not directly or in many cases indirectly affect them. They just want the attention and its easy to jump on a popular bandwagon because they then feel they belong and see other people agreeing with them.

that and it is whole lot easier than fixing their own lives. why not represent all the problems as being caused by someone else, then you can righteously stand by and not do anything about it; other than bitch on a message board.

Want to know how you can identify a sheep this election cycle? Simple, they vote for people with a D or R next to them. When you only have a choice between two parties what choice is that? Its like voting for the side of the coin that you want to land up and not acknowledging its the same coin regardless

Complaining about being anonymous is ad hominem (5, Insightful)

doconnor (134648) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613639)

Complaining about someone being anonymous to discredit them is an ad hominem attack. Hiding their identity doesn't make their argument any worse and revealing it doesn't make it any better.

Hiding their identity only make people more honest and allows their foolish beliefs to be addressed and discredited, which may not have been possible otherwise.

Re:Complaining about being anonymous is ad hominem (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613867)

I totally agree with you, although I realize that does not amount to a hill of dogshit.

anonymity is like in Groundhog Day... (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613655)

Combine "No Consequences" with human nature, and you'd be an idiot to expect anything different. Just wait until someone invents PFP/IP (poo flinging protocol/internet protocol), and you'll REALLY see what humans are capable of.

Get on the phone (5, Interesting)

pubjames (468013) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613663)

Whenever I get an angry work-related email I immediately get on the phone to the person. It is amazing the difference when speaking on the phone, often the person will very quickly become quite apologetic for their email when you phone them.

Re:Get on the phone (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613953)

Yes, those annoying anonymous corporate emails with names and phone numbers.

Fuck You All! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613685)

I've been waiting awhile for this moment, but it feels so much better to finally let it out!

one thing that can be done about it (4, Insightful)

ronbohn (1352277) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613709)

Yeah it's really ridiculous how some people act. I've noticed racism is a real biggie for gamers. I think most people out there mean well, but it seems that sometimes this stuff can have a snowball effect...one person says something, then another. I say try to cut it off at the source so when somebody says something really ignorant, just be like "dude that's not cool"

Re:one thing that can be done about it (5, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614093)

snowball

The correct term is "caucasian". "European American" or even "white person" are acceptable alternatives.

Re:one thing that can be done about it (0, Redundant)

ronbohn (1352277) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614241)

A "snowball" is a term used to describe an affect of exponential increase, not a person. In this instance, I was referring to a people "chiming" in on negative things. Sorry for the misunderstanding; I was not being racist or intentionally offending.

In other CNN news.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613727)

Large amounts of money allow you to buy stuff.

Water is wet, and the sun is hot.

People die when they are killed.

Tolling has been around for ages, but... (0, Flamebait)

Anik315 (585913) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613779)

Most people in America are angrier than usual due to the worsening economic conditions caused by Bush's oil war which bankrupted the nation. That's what's really being reflected on the web. Bush and Cheney are basically war criminials. I'm hoping people take it their rage at the voting booths.

Tolling has been around for ages, but... (edited) (0)

Anik315 (585913) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613881)

Most people in America are angrier than usual due to the worsening economic conditions caused by Bush's oil war which has bankrupted the nation. That's what's really being reflected on the web. Bush and Cheney are basically war criminials. I'm hoping people take their rage at the voting booths.

Re:Tolling has been around for ages, but... (edite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614637)

Bush and Cheney are basically war criminials. I'm hoping people take their rage at the voting booths.

And do what? Neither Bush or Cheney are running, and neither of the main candidates are likely to call them on it.

Re:Tolling has been around for ages, but... (4, Funny)

Z34107 (925136) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614177)

Most people in America are angrier than usual due to the worsening economic conditions caused by Bush's oil war which bankrupted the nation. That's what's really being reflected on the web. Bush and Cheney are basically war criminials. I'm hoping people take it their rage at the voting booths.

Oooh, mad libs!

Most people in America are sillier than usual due to the diabetes caused by Bush's evil, putrid, orphan-exploiting existence which caffeinated the nation. That's what's really being monkeyed on the web. Bush and Cheney are basically evil, putrid, orphan-exploiters. I'm hoping people take it their rage at the carnival.

But, I think my version made more sense.

Re:Tolling has been around for ages, but... (1)

dedazo (737510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614363)

The nation is not bankrupt and the crisis was caused mostly by the credit bubble, not the war, although excessive spending due to said war does contribute to the federal deficit, which in turn has a ripple effect on other things, like the value of the dollar.

there's plenty to be upset about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613805)

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The web needs a mute button (1)

rubber side down (1304501) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613815)

While I don't spend a great deal of time reading or posting in forums that have large troll populations (*cough*), I run into this all the time on Xbox Live. I would estimate that roughly 60% of the players I encounter overall are obnoxious assess, and that number gets exponentially larger for some reason when playing FPS titles. The beauty is that I can mute them all easily, at which point they essentially no longer exist. This would be a great feature for any forum as well: the ability to select users who's posts you never want to see again. This way your aggrivation level would be considerably lower on any given day. Unless you get off on that sort of thing.....

Easy (3, Insightful)

HalAtWork (926717) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613819)

When you say something in anger in meatspace, people hold you accountable and may consider what you say as threatening, and there can be consequences, especially in the workspace. Also, people want an audience, and when they're really pissed off they want everyone to know about it. This stuff can be healthy. Of course there are other people where the anger grows inside them and they just post snide remarks and try to piss on peoples' parades and ruin people's days, these people feed their anger and become bitter. It's all about why you're doing it and if you're trying to get rid of some angry feelings and vent, or if you're festering.

lean yobwoc must be pissing himself laughing (0, Offtopic)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613823)

I know the editors are sitting there thinking how much fun this story would be... must be nice to have an easy Monday morning at work

YOU RAGE YOU LOSE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613887)

RAGEEeee

Anonymous anger? (1)

Wowsers (1151731) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613907)

I'd like to show you all anonymous anger, but then I'd decrease my chance of +ve mod points score.

CNN is a story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613931)

CNN is a story

How does it end?!

Re:CNN is a story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614085)

badly, you asshole!

HRGLGRGL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613935)

AAAAARGH

SFDI#$%*&EWROIGFDHKZSDF

Shit! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

catharsis (0, Redundant)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#25613939)

that which is released harmlessly online is not released in the real world

therefore, online rage leads to less real world rage

hm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25613965)

[img]http://hweifusd.hw.funpic.de/smile.jpg[/img]

"Rampant" is probably not correct. (2, Informative)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614009)

Unless people are posting at standing desks using some kind of gestural input, I doubt that much Internet rage takes place rampant.

It's much more likely that most Internet rage takes place sejant erect [google.com] .

E-aggression? (5, Funny)

PontifexMaximus (181529) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614069)

WTF? Do we need to put an E (or I) in front of every-bloody-thing that might occur online? I mean really? There is no difference between 'aggression' and 'e-aggression' except for where it happens. I mean, if I get pissed off about something in the loo, is that 'P-aggression'? Or if I'm pissed at a strip club is that 'DD-aggression'?

I mean, can't you n00bs stop that crap?

Re:E-aggression? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614687)

Yes, we have to put the e in order to compete with Apple. We can't put an i on things (like iRage or iPee or iTroll) because we might be sued by Apple for iNFringement of their iNTellectual iProperty. iFor one think this is iNtolerable state of iAffairs. But, I am even now getting an iCease and iDesist iLetter...

CNN Is the one with the anger problem... (1)

Troll14 (1395683) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614091)

I find this article absolutely ridiculous. First they come out saying that childhood aggression and video games are linked, and now this? Me, and many of my teen friends play video games as a stress reliever, a chance to get away from school and the other tiring things in daily life. What there saying might be true in some kids, but definitely not all as they portray it to be. Typical mainstream media.

The opposite can also be true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614099)

I've found that the ability for a community to moderate comments with ratings has helped me to control my anger and express myself better.

Reason to be angry. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614127)

I can't figure out what makes me angrier: my habit of anonymously trolling web forums, or my video game playing.

Perhaps it's your abnormally small penis? :-)

read the examples of internet hate they mention (5, Interesting)

stormguard2099 (1177733) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614145)

I know most wont rtfa but my god the examples they use are hillariously bad. I was expecting whole sentences constructed out of *s+ 3 or 4 letters but no. It was talking about how celebrities had a flamewar or two online or one politician used a racial slur and surprise surprise, it got reported online.

the only decent example was the myspace girl who commited suicide, meagan.

im not sure i want to listen to a major news corp that cant even find decent examples of anon hate online. i mean jesus christ, just pick any slashdot and browse at -1!

people mistake terse for hostile (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614205)

The problem with written communication (esp. where the language used is learned later, not one's native language) is that it misses out all the nuances that come from speech. As such, people's forum, email, web, blog entries are often considered rude - when in reality they are just being economical with words, or do not have the vocabulary or cultural background to "hook up" with the reader.

As we all become more experienced with written internet communication, hopefully we'll all become more forgiving of others' expressions.

Personally, when I insult someone on the internet, I make sure there can be no doubt they realise they're being insulted. Maybe we need an HTML tag, just to make sure. If it's not present, then no insult was intended

Racism I've encountered online (4, Interesting)

CristalShandaLear (762536) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614301)

Nowhere have I found more anger than in yahoo hearts.

For the most part online, I find people to be fairly polite if not a little more crude or pointed than they would be in real life. On message boards, chat rooms, even places like FARK - there are always rules and people bend the boundaries to breaking but the die-hard bigots are truly a dying breed. Then again, maybe it's just a matter of all out flame wars and such being ended by admins and such before they really get started anymore.

But even in something as simple as yahoo hearts, I have found the most bigoted, racist, discriminatory people you ever want to meet. I mean one day, the host of table playing Yahoo Graffiti was booting anyone that had a brown person icon. Or in Yahoo hearts people are quick to use the n-word and such.

However by the same token, I have never encountered racism playing Yahoo Literati. And I find it speaks volumes that people who would play a game that that is related to words and depth of vocabulary and knowledge would be the very people to be the kindest and most interesting people I've encountered online.

I wholeheartedly believe that there is direct relationship between IQ and the level of every day bigotry and racism expressed by any given individual. I believe the same co-relation between those who are rich and/or powerful as this does not necessarily relate to intelligence - or that those who are rich, powerful and intelligent use tools such as racism and bigotry to manipulate those who are none of those things.

I guess I always wonder - what truly is the point of being a bigot or racist? Oh well....more observations that really any information here.

Road Rage (5, Insightful)

WorkingDead (1393377) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614319)

The same goes for road rage. You would never run down the hallway at work, while on your cell phone, yelling at all the other people who are not full out sprinting. But you sure would on your way there in the morning.

Without Anonomous There is Censorship. (4, Interesting)

jimwelch (309748) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614373)

I have found that most people will not state their opinions if they are forced to sign them. The consequences of a opinion can be far more severe than is justified from those in power. Too often those in power, abuse power. Which side you are on, does not matter, both side have a fringe that goes off the deep end. For a few examples, see Nixon, J. Edgar Hoover, College Faculty (tenure granting is power). Ben Franklin had to use a pseudo-name so he would not be arrested. Writers during the witch hunts of the McCarthy era. Women writers had to pretend to be men to get published.

Anonymous is very useful! If you use is wisely! Put forth your arguments clearly and logically. Stir the emotions only as needed. Leave the hate behind. Leave the anger behind.

Re:Without Anonomous There is Censorship. (1)

halcyon1234 (834388) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614693)

Ben Franklin had to use a pseudo-name so he would not be arrested.

For the record, the name was C-Note

Like misbehaved children, it's about the parents (1)

Legion_SB (1300215) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614401)

Or, in this case, the moderation.

I am a member of a number of sites that enforce a very simple, yet very firm, code of conduct. If you cannot behave like a civil human being, you are out. Period. It's not done punitively, but rather in a very calm and matter-of-fact manner.

People can say "don't feed the trolls" all they want, but it's no replacement for real moderation. In the absence of the social consequences that exist in a real, in-person social experience, something else needs to step in to help give the correcting nudge to facilitate good behavior all around.

BULLSHIT!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25614409)

WTF!!! WHO WRITES THIS CRAP! EVERY time i see an article online like this I just want to HUNT DOWN THE ASSHOLE THAT WROTE IT and CHOKE THE LIFE OUT OF HIM!!!

Some people are SO STUPID!

for the uninitiated... (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614477)

Trolling and anger on the internet lead to more trolling and watching porn.

If there are people who are taking their rage offline, those people need anger management help.

For the rest of us, trolling and playing violent video games IS anger management.

The Source (1)

mlingojones (919531) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614511)

Wow, CNN is on a roll today!

BBC Have Your Say (1)

pzs (857406) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614539)

The BBC Have Your Say debates are evidence that this phenomenon is not confined to angry teenagers. Those guys seem to be able to spew bile about everything in the name of honest dissent or political protest. It's actually pretty sad.

They also forced Russel Brand to resign from Radio 2, even though only 2 people actually complained about his obscene phone calls:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7694989.stm [bbc.co.uk]

This post makes me so mad (1)

xgr3gx (1068984) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614605)

RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAA!
Anger management makes me so mad!
Posting comments enrages me!
I'm going to go play Postal 2!

A quote: (1)

vecctor (935163) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614609)

I have no idea where it's from, but this has always stuck with me:

"The internet is just a place where everyone goes to bitch about things."

Solution (2, Interesting)

Peregr1n (904456) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614643)

The politest, friendliest, most trustworthy forum I belong to forces you to register with your real name. As it's linked to a commerce system, I imagine they can double-check it with the credit details they have on file for me. I know a lot of people would hate this, but I love it - everyone on there thinks very carefully before posting.

Who you gonna call? (1)

mr_josh (1001605) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614651)

With all of this anger and unfocused rage, is there any doubt that we'll be entering in to a sort of "Ghost Busters II" event very soon? Could The Tubes be used to transport a River of Slime? [imdb.com]

How about too many rules in the real world? (duh) (1)

startxxx (733595) | more than 5 years ago | (#25614723)

How about a real world without immediate mindless consequences, bureaucracy, violence and police mishandle.. people have a lot to complain about... (duh)
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