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Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25637831)

if'in there iz anyone out there hoo still doubts that America iz a place where all things iz possible; hoo still wonders if'in da dream o' our founders iz alive in our time; hoo still questions da martin luther jr. feelin' o' our democracy, tonight iz ya'lls answer.

It's da answer told by lines that stretched around schools an' churches in numbers this nation haz never seen; by niggas hoo waited three hours an' four hours, many fo' da very first time in da niggas' lives, because da niggas believed that this time must be different; that da niggas' voice could be that difference.

It's da answer spoken by young an' old, rich an' poor, Democrat an' Republican, black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled an' no way disabled - Americans hoo sent a message ta da world that we haz never b'in a collection o' Red States an' Blue States: we iz, an' always will be, da United States o' America.

It's da answer that led those hoo haz b'in told fo' so long by so many ta be cynical, an' fearful, an' doubtful o' wa'tch we can achieve ta put da niggas' hands on da arc o' history an' bend da thang once more toward da hope o' a better dey.

It's b'in a long time coming, but tonight, because o' wa'tch we did on this dey, in this election, at this defining moment, change haz come ta America.

I just received a very gracious call from Senator McCain. da nigga fought long an' hard in this campaign, an' he's fought even longer an' harder fo' da country da nigga loves. da nigga haz endured sacrifices fo' America that most o' us cannot begin ta imagine, an' we iz better off fo' da service rendered by this brave an' selfless leader.

I congratulate him an' Governor Palin fo' all da niggas haz achieved, an' meh look forward ta working with them ta renew this nation's promise in da months ahead.

I want ta thank mah partner in this journey, a nigga hoo campaigned from hiz heart an' spoke fo' da niggas an' women da nigga grew up with on da streets o' Scranton an' rode with on that train home ta Delaware, da Vice-President-elect o' da United States, Joe Biden.

I would no way be standing in da hizzle tonight without da unyielding support o' mah best friend fo' da last 16 years, da rock o' our family an' da love o' mah life, our nation's next First Lady, Michelle Obama. Sasha an' Malia, meh love ya'll both so much, an' ya'll haz earned da new puppy that's coming with us ta da White crib.

And while she's no longer with us, meh know mah grandmother iz watching, along with da family that made me hoo meh iz. meh miss them tonight, an' know that mah debt ta them iz beyond measure.

To mah campaign manager David Plouffe, mah chief strategist David Axelrod, an' da best campaign team ever assembled in da history o' politics - ya'll made this happen, an' meh iz forever grateful fo' wa'tch you've sacrificed ta get da thang done.

But above all, meh will never forget hoo this victory truly belongs ta - da thang belongs ta ya'll.

I waz never da likeliest candidate fo' this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign waz no way hatched in da halls o' Washington - da thang began in da backyards o' Des Moines an' da living rooms o' Concord an' da front porches o' Charleston.

It waz built by working niggas an' women hoo dug into wa'tch little savings da niggas waz havin' ta give $5 an' $10 an' $20 ta this cause.

It grew strength from da young niggas hoo rejected da myth o' da niggas' generation's apathy; hoo left da niggas' homes an' da niggas' families fo' jobs that offered little pay an' less sleep; from da not-so-young niggas hoo braved da bitter cold an' scorching heat ta knock on da doors o' perfect strangers; from da millions o' Americans hoo volunteered, an' organised, an' proved that more than two centuries later, a government o' da niggas, by da niggas an' fo' da niggas haz no way perished from this Earth.

This iz ya'lls victory.

I know ya'll didn't do this just ta win an election an' meh know ya'll didn't do da thang fo' me. ya'll did da thang because ya'll understand da enormity o' da task that lies ahead. fo' even as we celebrate tonight, we know da challenges that tomorrow will bring iz da greatest o' our lifetime - two wars, a planet in peril, da worst financial crisis in a century.

Even as we stand in da hizzle tonight, we know there iz brave Americans waking up in da deserts o' Iraq an' da mountains o' Afghanistan ta risk da niggas' lives fo' us.

There iz mothers an' fathers hoo will lie awake after da niggas' children fall asleep an' wonder how they'll make da mortgage, or pay da niggas' doctor's bills, or save enough fo' college. There iz new energy ta harness an' new jobs ta be created; new schools ta build an' threats ta meet an' alliances ta repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may no way get there in one year or even one term, but America - meh haz never b'in more hopeful than meh iz tonight that we will get there. meh promise ya'll - we as a niggas will get there.

There will be setbacks an' false starts. There iz many hoo won't agree with every decision or policy meh make as president, an' we know that government can't solve every problem. But meh will always be honest with ya'll about da challenges we face. meh will listen ta ya'll, especially when we disagree.

And above all, meh will ask ya'll join in da work o' remaking this nation da only way da thang haz b'in done in America fo' 221 years - block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began 21 months ago in da depths o' winter must no way end on this autumn night. This victory alone iz no way da change we seek - da thang iz only da chance fo' us ta make that change. an' that cannot happen if'in we goed back ta da way things waz. da thang cannot happen without ya'll.

So let us summon a new spirit o' patriotism; o' service an' responsibility where each o' us resolves ta pitch in an' work harder an' look after no way only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if'in this financial crisis taught us anything, da thang haz that we cannot haz a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers - in this country, we rise or fall as one nation; as one niggas.

Let us resist da temptation ta fall back on da same partisanship an' pettiness an' immaturity that haz poisoned our politics fo' so long. Let us remember that da thang waz a nigga from this state hoo first carried da banner o' da Republican Party ta da White crib - a party founded on da values o' self-reliance, individual liberty, an' national unity.

Those iz values we all share, an' while da Democratic Party haz won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure o' humility an' determination ta heal da divides that haz held back our progress. As Lincoln said ta a nation far more divided than ours: "We iz no way enemies, but friends... though passion may haz strained da thang must no way break our bonds o' affection."

And ta those Americans whose support meh haz yet ta earn - meh may no way haz won ya'lls vote, but meh hear ya'lls voices, meh need ya'lls help, an' meh will be ya'lls president too.

And ta all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments an' palaces ta those hoo iz huddled around radios in da forgotten corners o' our world - our stories iz singular, but our destiny iz shared, an' a new dawn o' American leadership iz at hand.

To those hoo would tear this world down - we will defeat ya'll. ta those hoo seek peace an' security - we support ya'll.

And ta all those hoo haz wondered if'in America's beacon still burns as bright - tonight we proved once more that da true strength o' our nation comes no way from da might o' our arms or da scale o' our wealth, but from da enduring martin luther jr. feelin' o' our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, an' unyielding hope.

For that iz da true genius o' America - that America can change. Our union can be perfected. an' wa'tch we haz already achieved gives us hope fo' wa'tch we can an' must achieve tomorrow.

This election waz havin' many firsts an' many stories that will be told fo' generations. But one that's on mah mind tonight iz about a bitch hoo cast da bitch's ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like da millions o' others hoo stood in line ta make da niggas' voice heard in this election except fo' one thang - Ann Nixon Cooper iz 106 years old.

She waz born just a generation past slavery; a time when there waz no cars on da road or planes in da sky; when someone like da bitch's couldn't vote fo' two reasons - because da bitch waz a bitch an' because o' da colour o' da bitch's skin.

And tonight, meh think about all that she's seen throughout da bitch's century in America - da heartache an' da hope; da struggle an' da progress; da times we waz told that we can't, an' da niggas hoo pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women's voices waz silenced an' da niggas' hopes dismissed, da bitch lived ta see them stand up an' speak out an' reach fo' da ballot. Yes we can.

When there waz despair in da dust bowl an' depression across da land, da bitch saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs an' a new sense o' common purpose. Yes we can.

When da bombs fell on our harbour an' tyranny threatened da world, da bitch waz there ta witness a generation rise ta greatness an' a democracy waz saved. Yes we can.

She waz there fo' da buses in Montgomery, da hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, an' a preacher from Atlanta hoo told a niggas that "We Shall Overcome". Yes we can.

A nigga touched down on da moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world waz connected by our own science an' imagination. an' this year, in this election, da bitch touched da bitch's finger ta a screen, an' cast da bitch's vote, because after 106 years in America, through da best o' times an' da darkest o' hours, da bitch knows how America can change. Yes we can.

America, we haz come so far. We haz seen so much. But there iz so much more ta do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves - if'in our children should live ta see da next century; if'in mah daughters should be so lucky ta live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, wa'tch change will da niggas see? wa'tch progress will we haz made?

This iz our chance ta answer that call. This iz our moment.

This iz our time - ta put our niggas back ta work an' open doors o' opportunity fo' our kids; ta restore prosperity an' promote da cause o' peace; ta reclaim da American Dream an' reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out o' many, we iz one; that while we breathe, we hope, an' where we iz met with cynicism, an' doubt, an' those hoo tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up da spirit o' a people: Yes We Can.

Thank ya'll, God bless ya'll, an' may God Bless da United States o' America.

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638103)

Don't worry when the wealth is "redistributed" to the "people" (the government that is) most slashdotters won't be able to afford an internet connection.

Now when do I get my 5000$ BHO promised ? When does he start "spreading the wealth" ?

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Malevolent Tester (1201209) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638115)

I think he's waiting till inflation's got bad enough that $5000 buys you a loaf of bread and a circus ticket.

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Smivs (1197859) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638271)

Read the rest of this comment...

I didn't want to read the first part!

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638445)

I HATE NIGGERS

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638595)

But all of us people of color LOVE you.

come on let us dry-hump your superior whiteness!

Ohhh put the white hood on, that makes us horny for the white man!

Ohhh yeah! Let me pull up to dat' bumper and smack that monkey!

Re:Obama's victory speech in full (-1, Offtopic)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638883)

Yu mist out da bit where you wuz in de libry downtown, and yu went to de toilet an de guy befoh yo forgot to flush.

Ouch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25641371)

Never do that again.

I was right! (4, Funny)

Skiron (735617) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637853)

New World Record! [slashdot.org]

Sad news. (5, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637867)

The mad died doing what he loved, flying a plane. I guess the lesson is that no matter how much experience a pilot has, flying is still a risky business.

-jcr

Re:Sad news. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25637895)

The mad died doing what he loved, flying a plane.

I don't understand why that's sad.

Re:Sad news. (1)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637901)

Flying is risky but to negate that risk, we are provided parachutes that are neatly placed under our seats... oh wait...

Re:Sad news. (1, Funny)

Skidge (316075) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638733)

Maybe you should start wearing parachute pants.

Re:Sad news. (5, Insightful)

Konster (252488) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637909)

No, he didn't die while flying a plane. He died while crashing a plane.

Re:Sad news. (4, Insightful)

nmg196 (184961) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638093)

The vast majority of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.
Very few simply crash while they're sitting in the hangar - so he was still flying when he crashed I expect.

Re:Sad news. (5, Funny)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638111)

The vast majority of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.

Look, if you're going to make wild claims like that, I want to see some statistics to back them up.

Re:Sad news. (3, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638329)

Well, I remember this crash [wikipedia.org] , but I haven't heard of too many others like it.

-jcr

Re:Sad news. (2, Funny)

bigsteve@dstc (140392) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639011)

All right ....

98.4% of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.

Happy now?

Re:Sad news. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25639045)

Whoosh! That's the sound of a joke *not* crashing as it flies over your head.

Re:Sad news. (1)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639691)

98.4% of AC's didn't get the GP joke. Further, it's a known fact that most (75.3%) AC's don't believe that 92% of statistics are made up on the spot.

most deadly air disaster (3, Interesting)

Smivs (1197859) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638239)

The vast majority of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.

Whilst the above is true, it's worth noting that the most deadly aviation disaster occured on the ground, at Tenerife's Los Rodeos airport [super70s.com] where two 747s collided, killing 683 people.

Re:most deadly air disaster (2, Informative)

umghhh (965931) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638683)

one of the planes taking part in the collision was already airborne at the crash point.

Re:most deadly air disaster (1, Insightful)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640703)

one of the planes taking part in the collision was already airborne at the crash point.

And pulling up on the stick made the tail of the plane drag on the runway [wikipedia.org] . I think that means he wasn't very "airborne".

Re:Sad news. (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638441)

Not that it's totally against what you wrote but most planes crash at start or landing, and not while actually flying as in "omg all engines failed and now we will drop 10.000 m."

Re:Sad news. (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638505)

The vast majority of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.

No, the vast majority of plane crashes occur when planes stop flying, or fail to begin flying in the first place.

CFIT is mercifully uncommon these days.

Re:Sad news. (1)

rikkards (98006) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638651)

Flying implies controlled, I suspect that even the couple moments before he crashed it wasn't controlled.

Re:Sad news. (3, Informative)

barzok (26681) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639683)

The vast majority of plane crashes occur while the planes are flying.

No, they occur when the plane ceases flight.

Re:Sad news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638095)

Well, aren't you clever.

Re:Sad news. (3, Interesting)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638141)

What if he had a heart attack and died while flying the plane?

Re:Sad news. (1)

g0dsp33d (849253) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638703)

Then he still "crashed", you insensitive clod.

Re:Sad news. (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638523)

The term is either "Controlled flight into terrain" or "Uncontrolled flight into terrain", depending on the cause of the crash. Either way, it's flight.

Re:Sad news. (1)

dougisfunny (1200171) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638697)

What are mid-air collisions called? With other aircraft? Or crashes while taxiing? I'd imagine those are less common though....

Re:Sad news. (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638867)

What are mid-air collisions called? With other aircraft?

"Mid-air collisions". See the bit about TCAS in this report [bfu-web.de]

Or crashes while taxiing? I'd imagine those are less common though....

Don't know. The incident that springs to mind was the Tenerife crash in 1977, but I'm not aware of any usual terminology for that sort of incident (there can be a "usual terminology" for a highly unusual accident, because the folks managing safety will still talk about what they're working to avoid, but most of my experience is en-route or take-off/landing rather than ground movements).

Anyway, for aviation safety purposes,
flight is defined (in as slightly circular fashion) as being "between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight, until such time as all persons have disembarked" [cap.gov] . The pedant in me wants to rewrite that as "between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight, until such time as no living persons remain on the aircraft" -- I don't like termination (sorry!) conditions that may never be met.

Runway incursion (1)

drerwk (695572) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639583)

Or crashes while taxiing? I'd imagine those are less common though....

Runway incursion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_incursion [wikipedia.org]

Any occurrence at an aerodrome involving the incorrect presence of an aircraft, vehicle, or person on the protected area of a surface designated for the landing and take-off of aircraft.

My subscription to the NTSB Reported lapsed when I stopped flying http://www.ntsb-reporter.com/ [ntsb-reporter.com] but it is highly recommended reading for any pilot if you wish to learn from other's mistakes. I

Re:Runway incursion (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640375)

Not quite. A ground-crash could take place on a stand or taxiway, and wouldn't be a runway incursion, and a runway incursion need not lead to an accident -- in fact, most don't, most lead to suspension of movements whilst ATC shout things like "Will somebody get that ****** off the runway!"

More precisely, a runway incursion is an incident, not an accident.

Re:Sad news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25639553)

Perhaps he died during the flight and eventually plane crashed? Who knows!

Re:Sad news. (2, Interesting)

digitalchinky (650880) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637917)

I suspect we will never know why his aircraft belted in to the side of the mountain in clear air - cloud cover was apparently much higher at the time, so visibility was good.

I can well imagine he was incapacitated or dead before impact - the other possibility is suicide I guess.

Re:Sad news. (5, Informative)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637961)

I can well imagine he was incapacitated or dead before impact

Could have had a CO leak into the cockpit, a stroke, a heart attack... Since it was so long after the crash the remains were found, we'll probably never know.

-jcr

Re:Sad news. (0, Troll)

GrimLordJesus (1394523) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638129)

I would like to mention that jcr is a troll yet every post I see of his he receives a +5 insightful mod. This disturbs me greatly, is jcr modding his own psots on other accounts or do the mods love him like a catholic priest loves young altar boys?

No flamebait mods plzkthnx

Re:Sad news. (-1, Offtopic)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638313)

I would like to mention that jcr is a troll

It would appear that some of the moderators disagree with you.

like a catholic priest loves young altar boys?

Heh... You toss off a line like that, and you call me a troll?

-jcr

Re:Sad news. (1)

KeelSpawn (575726) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638249)

Any pilot holding a private pilot certificate or above has to have at least a valid and current 3rd class medical certificate to exercise private pilot privileges. Generally, pilots are healthier than the average crowd. While I agree that a stroke or heart attack might have been possible, they are not likely.

Re:Sad news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638659)

That may be so, but pilots that LOVE to fly and have substantial resources can usually scrape up a medical certificate as long as they can still see and walk around.

Re:Sad news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25639281)

Athletes have heart attacks. It is possible. And it can be likely. Pilots aren't magically exempt from medical problems. Really.

Re:Sad news. (1)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640537)

I was flying with our old company pilot once, I was in the co-pilot seat of a twin engine beachcraft baron.. He said hit this auto-pilot button if I die, get on the radio and tell them what happened and that it will land at atlanta airport and you have no control of it. He said he had a bad ticker and it was feeling jumpy that day, maybe its ok as long as the small plane has a self landing gps nav co-pilot system like ours did, or he had a bs exam...not sure which.

Re:Sad news. (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640701)

While true, there are a whole host a medical issues that wouldn't be caught during a 3rd class medical. They're also only required every 2 years (per 3 years if you're under 40). Problems could crop up between one and the next.

Just one note too: though I'm pretty positive he was flying your private pilot privileges, a private pilot can allow has medical to lapse and still fly under sport pilot privileges. You have some restrictions there on what planes you can fly (mostly based on weight), but the older, and IMHO most "fun" planes like the J-3 Cub or Taylorcraft for example, are still fine. A lot of newer ones specifically built for it are fine under sport pilot rules too. Besides the actual choice in plane there is little you can't do under sport pilot rules that you can under private pilot rules.

They could rule out mechanical failure (1)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638493)

The investigators will at least be able to rule in or out problems with the aircraft - unless theres been some very hungry aluminium chomping wildlife around that area recently!

Re:Sad news. (4, Insightful)

Konster (252488) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638047)

Clear air doesn't always mean safe air. Given his altitude, airframe icing may be a cause.

Nor does experience mean the pilot will always make the best decisions...experience is the best teacher only if you always listen to it, combined with good judgment.

I'd guess a mechanical failure of some sort. Carb door coming off and getting sucked into the manifold, bearing/crank/valve train failure, fuel delivery, whatever. Any number of problems that may arise while perhaps toodling around low and slow become huge almost unmanageable problems very quickly. The transition from aircraft to glider to lawn dart can be astoundingly quick and fully outside the bounds of any pilot to fix.

Re:Sad news. (2, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638615)

given his altitude, if he was not wearing an oxygen mask or in a pressurized cabin, he may have simply fell asleep.

It's incredibly easy to lose consciousness at the altitude he was as if you are not vigilant at conserving your personal energy... In fact at 10,000 feet it's plain old stupid not to be wearing an air mask in that plane.

Re:Sad news. (1)

KeelSpawn (575726) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638327)

Statistically, flying is no riskier (if not less) than driving your car to your local airport. Also, according to the NTSB, most aviation accidents are from pilot error as a result from complacency or negligence. So, some wouldn't call flying a risky business, rather flying is simply *less forgiving* to those who are negligent.

Re:Sad news. (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638579)

In other words we should give everyone a pilot's license and let gravity sort out the group?

Darwin didn't see that one coming.

Re:Sad news. (1)

Konster (252488) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638631)

Nope.

By stats, it's a lot safer to fly on an established huge jet airline that covers millions of miles in a year than : a private pilot with any experience flying a very small aircraft. By huge orders of magnitude.

That you think by glancing at these figures and deducing flying is safe is hugely wrong. Flying in huge jumbo type jets run by mega corporations is safer than driving...probably.

That by looking at stats for what amounts to scaffolding with wings versus tires...tires wins by a huge amount.

Re:Sad news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638367)

Should always fly a twin when flying over an area where you can't land, so if you're engine fails you've got at least another

Re:Sad news. (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638905)

Trouble is, that doubles your chance of engine failure.

Re:Sad news. (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638997)

From what I've heard, a twin engine plane is harder to fly. Even more so if you have a failed engine, the engine is so far off to one side that if you can manage it, it's tighter margins.

Not only that, a single engine plane can sail a good distance without an engine.

News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. (-1, Troll)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637869)

Plus whatever recycled crap is left over by the time kdawson drags his sorry ass to the keyboard.

Re:News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. (0, Flamebait)

dsanfte (443781) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637929)

Slashdot's editors are merely experiencing gravitational time dilation due to their proximity to CmdrTaco's massive ego.

Time is passing more slowly in their reference frame, so it takes longer to approve the stories.

Land speed record? (2, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637903)

I'd say he possibly broke the speed landing record.

Re:Land speed record? (4, Funny)

Konster (252488) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637925)

Nope. The record for a speed landing is still held by Beagle 2 which currently stands at a Mach 352 High Performance Landing.

Re:Land speed record? (4, Insightful)

McWilde (643703) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638511)

Possibly, but that certainly wasn't a world record.

Re:Land speed record? (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638761)

Possibly, but that certainly wasn't a world record.

Yes it was - just not this world!

NTSB confirms: Steve Fossett is dead (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25637919)

It is official; DNA analysis now confirms: Steve Fossett is dead.

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Fossett family when analysis confirmed that Steve Fossett's life expectancy has dropped yet again, now down to negative figures. Coming close on the heels of a recent survey which plainly states that everyone has forgotten who he was, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Steve Fossett's skeleton is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by falling dead.

You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Steve Fossett's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Steve Fossett faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Steve Fossett because Steve Fossett is dead. Things are looking very bad for Steve Fossett. As many of us are already aware, Steve Fossett continues to lose decomposing flesh. Blood flows like a river of red ink.

Steve Fossett's ribcage is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its tissue. The sudden and unpleasant departures of the contents of his bowels at the point of death only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Steve Fossett is dead.

Due to the troubles of his plane, Steve Fossett shuffled off this mortal coil and was taken over by flies who laid eggs in his corpse.

All major surveys show that Steve Fossett has steadily declined in life expectancy. Steve Fossett has kicked the bucket and his long term survival prospects are very dim. If Steve Fossett is to survive at all it will be via some twisted form of necromancy. Steve Fossett continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save Steve Fossett from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Steve Fossett is dead.

Fact: Steve Fossett is dead

Re:NTSB confirms: Steve Fossett is dead (2, Interesting)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638119)

Yea but I won't believe it until Netcraft confirms it.

Re:NTSB confirms: Steve Fossett is dead (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639051)

Bah. Netcraft only confirms when things are dying. Sounds like Fossett's death didn't leave much time for Netcraft to even know about it, let alone confirm it.

Emergency transmitter didn't work (1)

zymano (581466) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637963)

If it had given a signal then he might have been saved.

Re:Emergency transmitter didn't work (2, Informative)

PhantomHarlock (189617) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637975)

He was dead on impact. Wouldn't have helped, except that it might have prevented him from being eaten.

Re:Emergency transmitter didn't work (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638131)

Yea, perhaps if the medics had arrived earlier they could have put Humpty Dumpty back together again too.

Re:Emergency transmitter didn't work (1)

confused one (671304) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638545)

Clearly you have not seen photos of the wreckage. If he was alive when the plane struck the mountain, he wasn't after it did.

There's no way.... (4, Informative)

PhantomHarlock (189617) | more than 5 years ago | (#25637965)

There's no way he was looking for a land speed record location near there. It's one of the most mountainous areas in the country. he may have started in the flats of Nevada, but he went over one mountain range and was skimming the peaks of another when he went down.

I backpacked in and camped about 5 miles north of that spot last year at Thousand Island Lake. He crashed at 10,000 feet up, which is nearing the limits for a small plane with unpressurized cockpit. If you make a wrong move and don't manage your energy right, you're dead, and there's nowhere to land safely. Likely it was too late by the time he realized he was in it too far and wasn't going to get back out.

The scenery up there is spectacular though, about a mile from his crash site is the Minarets and Minaret Lake, one of many alpine lakes that dot the Sierra range. There are backpacking trails nearby, but not on that particular very steep mountain side.

Re:There's no way.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638937)

I'm sure he appreciated the view when he was crashing his ass into it.

Seriously, WTF?

Time to look at how the online search went (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25637999)

1. Did the online search area cover the actual crash site?
2. Did the online search have a recognizable picture of the crashed plane?

Re:Time to look at how the online search went (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638137)

Online search... Are you suggesting they could have found Fossett's remains faster by Googling for the crash site?

If by Googling you mean Google Maps... (2, Interesting)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638619)

... then yes. That is almost exactly what the GP is referring to.
With some Amazon's mTurk added over the Google layer.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/09/geeks-spot-foss.html [wired.com]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/373893/internet_users_aid_in_search_for_steve.html [associatedcontent.com]

http://innonate.com/2007/09/09/is-this-steve-fossett-the-community-searches/ [innonate.com]

it's like in Star Trek... (1)

rarel (697734) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638011)

... Bones saying "It's dead, Jim"

Re:it's like in Star Trek... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638075)

(on a serious note, glad to see this bring closure for his relatives.)

RIP. (4, Insightful)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638043)

Sad (but predictable on /.) to see a lot of jokes already, so I'll be first to say commiserations to the family and RIP a pioneer.

He died doing what he loved and always challenged his boundaries, I can admire that.

At least the mystery is finally cleared up, the crash investigation can begin.

Re:RIP. (5, Funny)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638149)

Yea these jokes are in very bad taste. Whenever bones are found it is never a humerus matter.

Re:RIP. (2, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638325)

Sounds like he was flying with a skeleton crew.

Re:RIP. (2, Funny)

Carbon016 (1129067) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638419)

No bones about it!

Re:RIP. (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638939)

Anyone else read the headline as "confirmed fossils"?

Re:RIP. (2, Funny)

minvaren (854254) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640253)

And yet, these bad jokes are just the tibia iceberg.

Re:RIP. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638171)

I've never been a fan of the idea that joking is a sign of disrespect. I find one's ability to look to the lighter side of things during dark times to be admirable.

Re:RIP. (1)

sleeponthemic (1253494) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638759)

Sad (but predictable on /.) to see a lot of jokes already.

No, it isn't sad atall.

I can't imagine what sort of grumpy shit you'd have to be to complain about people having a joke when you've shipped out

It doesn't diminish any of his achievements to be positive and deal with adversity whilst maintaining your sense of humour (without being ghoulish).

I knew it (1)

ypctx (1324269) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638151)

Bones. [moditory.com]

At least the mystery is over (1)

Disco Stu123 (1322429) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638197)

It's sad but at least the body has been found to stop the mystery and rumour about him possibly doing a runner!

Re:At least the mystery is over (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638561)

He was rich. He could have had medical records altered to fit the corpse that he purchased, or maybe even had himself cloned.

Re:At least the mystery is over (1)

Disco Stu123 (1322429) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638585)

Don't you usually go to ground if you don't have any money!Or you're in debt?

Why is this a Slashdot story? (-1, Offtopic)

LS (57954) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638205)

It appears that the editors are making a conscious effort to not post a story about the US election, probably because of past protests that such news items are not "News for Nerds". But then we have this story about Fossett, which really isn't news for nerds. He may have some association with activities that involve some tech, but this is about the recovery of his body, and is also a few days late in being reported. It's been all over the rest of the media for a while now.

But the presidency has a profound effect on the technical environment, from outsourcing and visa policy, to advocating alternative energy, etc. What's with the hold out editors? How about a story titled "How will Obama's election effect the landscape for geeks/nerds?"

LS

Re:Why is this a Slashdot story? (0, Offtopic)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638351)

wtf? I for one welcome our Fosset story posting overlords. We've already had a bunch of stories on this, it's nice to get the conclusion. As for the US election, is it even finished yet? I'm sure ther'll be time for it to appear on ./ front page. If you are that desparate, try google.

Re:Why is this a Slashdot story? (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639261)

1. This isn't a political news site, it's a geek news site. If you want politico.com, you know where to find it.
2. That being said, sometimes Slashdot covers politics. Usually when something happens that directly affects tech, science, or the banning of ewoks. The election was never really covered here except to the extent of having discussions on the candidates views surrounding tech and science issues.
3. If the editors decide to post a post-election story, they will. If not, they won't. In the end, does it really matter?
4. Steve Fossett's disappearance and apparent death have been a source of discussion on here since the news of Fossett's plane coming up missing broke many months ago. Did you really expect that to change just because an election took place?

Get a grip, man. It's okay.

Risky business? Depends. Medical probs? Unlikely. (1)

KeelSpawn (575726) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638371)

I've noticed that some folks here are getting one thing outta this incident - that flying is risky. Statistically, flying is no riskier (if not less) than your driving your car to your local airport. What's more, according to the NTSB, most aviation accidents are from pilot (human) error as a result from complacency or negligence. So, a lot of people out there wouldn't call flying a risky business, rather flying is simply *less forgiving* to those who possess the mentioned traits.

Also, to address the possibility of a heart attack or a stroke before Fossett's crash, any pilot holding a Private Pilot Certificate or above has to have at least a valid and current Class 3 Medical certificate from the FAA in order to exercise private pilot privileges. Hence generally, pilots are healthier than the average crowd. While I agree that a stroke or heart attack might have been possible, they are not likely.

Re:Risky business? Depends. Medical probs? Unlikel (5, Interesting)

Alpha Whisky (1264174) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638717)

All an aviation medical proves is that you were probably alive at the time of the medical. I knew a fellow pilot who died of a heart attack the day after getting his aviation medical renewed!

Re:Risky business? Depends. Medical probs? Unlikel (3, Interesting)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638967)

I know someone whose dad was killed when his instructor flaked out. Turned out the guy had tried several doctors until one said he was OK.

Mistake in headline (0)

sleeponthemic (1253494) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638779)

Fossett isn't a word. It's fossil.

Bones Found Near Crash Site Confirmed Fossett's.. (1)

Cloud K (125581) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638821)

.. Recovery Team. In a statement, leader of the Fossett Recovery Crew said "Doctor McCoy was alive and well after the shuttle accident, and said that maybe scattering your atoms across space isn't such a bad idea after all".

Bones... (1)

g0dsp33d (849253) | more than 5 years ago | (#25638873)

Great show, but isn't it a little early for them to cover this? It will be nice to find out who did it though.

Re:Bones... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25638953)

Is it called "bones" because of the girl?

Bears, other animals ate him? (1)

ctdownunder (816383) | more than 5 years ago | (#25639325)

No one has mentioned this, probably out of respect for the family. Since only a few remains were found and quite far from wreckage. In the name of science it would be cool to know from experts about what happens to carcasses in them there CA mountains, and if the altitude of the impact bars some type of animal activity.

Is it just me... (1)

DustyCase (619304) | more than 5 years ago | (#25640509)

... or could Fossett have helped himself out by spending a relaxing evening with a good glass of scotch and Google Earth? I mean, sure, if I was him I would have an endless list of excuses to go out for a flight in my Citabria, but still... looking for salt flats? Please. Any place big enough to set a land speed record on will stick out like a sore thumb with consumer-grade remote sensing.
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