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Toshiba Launches Laptop With Three GPUs

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the battery-killers dept.

Portables 149

arcticstoat writes to mention that Toshiba's latest line of high-powered laptops has three GPUs included. Both the Qosmio X305-Q706 and Q708 come with an integrated GeForce 9400M for day-to-day processing tasks but have a pair of GeForce 9800Ms in SLI that kick in when you need the extra horsepower. "The [Qosmio] X305-Q706 costs $1,999 US (£1,257) in the US, although we haven't seen any UK pricing on the laptops yet. The system comes with a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo P8400 and 4GB of RAM, while the costlier X305-Q708 comes with a quad-core 2.53GHz Core 2 Extreme QX9300 CPU."

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Portable Furnace (5, Funny)

Brain_Recall (868040) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680721)

Does it come with its own fire extinguisher?

Re:Portable Furnace (5, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680781)

Does it come with its own fire extinguisher?

Actually no. But you can get that at the Autozone when you go to pick up the car battery you'll need.

Re:Portable Furnace (4, Insightful)

the_womble (580291) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681077)

The whole point of this is to improve battery life compared to laptops that only have the higher performance GPU: you use the more efficient GPU when you do not need the performance, and the better performance one only when you do.

Re:Portable Furnace (0, Flamebait)

thepotoo (829391) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681863)

But who wants/needs the extra weight and expense and unupgradability of an SLI card you're almost never going to use?

Who would ever want more than ~32 megs of video memory in a laptop? No one in their right mind uses laptops for games, and you're just going to get burned in another year or two when the next generation of video cards comes out.

This is a very niche product at best. Now, if this were a laptop that you could somehow upgrade with a full-sized SLI setup (using a dock or something) that might be interesting (RAM and processor last forever, mine are currently 4 years old and doing just fine even on games that recommend duel cores, while video cards need to be upgraded every couple of years to keep playing at max settings).

Re:Portable Furnace (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681931)

32 megs?

I take it you don't use Photoshop and don't commute to work on a train or bus which may require you to use said program or that you may want to play games on the way back to blow off a bit of steam and with trains having mains supplies batteries aren't an issue.

Re:Portable Furnace (4, Insightful)

jandrese (485) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682131)

You say nobody uses laptops for games, but you clearly have not been to any college lan parties lately. This is clearly a luggable designed for gaming, not a commuter laptop. The battery life probably sucks and it no doubt weighs a ton, but even so it's a lot easier to carry around than a full tower and the game performance should be more than adequate. Sure it'll be obsolete real fast, but these kinds of laptops aren't meant for the budget minded consumer.

Re:Portable Furnace (3, Insightful)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682617)

"obsolete" is a relative term, too. Some people who buy these realize that brand-new games might need some settings turned down, but they're still playable. Not everyone needs to run Crysis at 2560x1980 or whatever the hell it is as soon as it comes out. Two 9800's in SLI are pretty damn quick, and they'll still be pretty quick in 3 or 4 years, when laptops normally start dying. Game manufacturers make sure that people with older hardware can play their games because very, very few people actually buy new, top-of-the-line hardware to play ANY games.

Re:Portable Furnace (1)

Archades54 (925582) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682461)

My friend works on the mines and recently got himself a laptop to cure boredom. They fly out for 14days at a time and basically all you can do out there is work, sleep, eat and drink (many drink alot of alcohol). His laptop plays NFS Carbon quite nicely.

Re:Portable Furnace (2, Insightful)

Artuir (1226648) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682783)

"But who wants/needs the extra weight and expense and unupgradability of an SLI card you're almost never going to use?"

Uh, the people this laptop is obviously targeted to?

They don't make this kind of thing to sell it to everyone under the sun. That's like saying a Formula 1 race car is for everyone. (Gotta keep it car related for you folks, apparently.) It is very obviously a gamer's laptop and it is quite a smart design if you look at it from that standpoint. If you're using it to do office work all of the time you're obviously "doing it wrong", as the interweb sayeth.

Re:Portable Furnace (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25683039)

But who wants/needs the extra weight and expense and unupgradability of an SLI card you're almost never going to use?

Who would ever want more than ~32 megs of video memory in a laptop? No one in their right mind uses laptops for games, and you're just going to get burned in another year or two when the next generation of video cards comes out.

My old laptop had 32mb of ram. Half way through my thesis I had to leave it at home and VNC into my home computer from uni as the software I was using to design circuit boards became too slow to update the screen as the board neared completion.

Even if in your world laptops are never used for games, it's crazy to think that all people ever do on them is edit text files and watch movies during the morning commute.

Re:Portable Furnace (2, Informative)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#25683103)

Every academic and industrial research worker now uses laptops for presenting research papers at conferences, now that digital overhead projectors are now standard (just plug the external video cable into the laptop, set up dual display and everything is exactly the same when the presentation was prepared).

For those who are in the field of 3D visualisation/animation/rendering research, having a laptop that can do high-performance 3D graphics is a big gain. Instead of just presenting screenshots, pre-rendered movies, it is possible to have the actual application running in real-time.

You can get upgradeable graphics cards for laptops now (the MXM standard). [wikipedia.org] There are also mini-desktop units (Shuttle XPC [itechnews.net] ) which can be transported as carry-on luggage on an airplane.


ASUS offered an external PCI-Express card connected using a docking bay

MSI Luxium [gizmodo.com] also did the same.

For me, the ideal solution would be to have the docking bays on the underside of the laptop with additional power cables plugging into the main power brick for the laptop. It is a real pain having to go through airport security and take out the entire contents of your laptop bag (cables, PCI cards, DVD's, connectors, and USB dongles, power bricks) just to put them all back in again.

Re:Portable Furnace (1)

jimbudncl (1263912) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681697)

I like the pix... the red really accents its keys. Is it blushing because someone told it that it's "sooo fast", or is it about to blow its three Sony batteries?

Re:Portable Furnace (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681803)

Do they all crash like the hundreds of thousands of M cards they sold us?

Re:Portable Furnace (3, Funny)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681937)

A three GPU notebook is actually Toshiba's way of making triple damn sure that nerds don't reproduce.

Cool, but.. (1)

illumastorm (172101) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680745)

Can it run Crysis?

Hot, butt.... (2, Funny)

halsver (885120) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680843)

Yes it can run Crysis, but you shouldn't put anything flammable near it while you play.

Re:Hot, butt.... (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681401)

+1 ROFL

Re:Cool, but.. (4, Funny)

CaptainPatent (1087643) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681335)

Can it run Crysis?

run crysis?

With how hot that thing gets it is crysis!!

Re:Cool, but.. (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682003)

It's a cheap way to heat your house. You get to be green and have fun!

Re:Cool, but.. (0, Troll)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681477)

Can it run Crysis?

No, but I imagine a beowulf cluster of them would...

Only two processors? (3, Funny)

BrennanM3 (1397275) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680751)

Totally unacceptable, I wouldn't even recommend this for checking your email.

Re:Only two processors? (0)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680757)

Sharp knees, too.

Processors are like notarty. More the better. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25682587)

One processor to receive the mail and read it. One processor to compose the mail and confide it. One processor to bind them all down as it plays that goddamn embedded Adobe Flash applet.

Re:Only two processors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25680841)

it's got one processor, with two or four cores, depending on the model

Re:Only two processors? (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680935)

Two cores == two processors on the same piece of silicon

Re:Only two processors? (0)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681781)

Well, yes and no.

The whole shared cache thing kind of messes that up.

Either way, this is a retarded idea. If you want to game you want a gaming notebook, if you want energy efficiency, you get an ULV system.

Yes, I own 2 laptops (an EEE PC and a more gaming styled notebook), I'd never recommend a notebook with 3 GPUs to anyone. I can only imagine the compatibility issues that are going to arise from this.

Re:Only two processors? (1)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682167)

The whole shared cache thing kind of messes that up.

Not to mention the whole shared memory thing. For true multiprocessing you need something like NUMA ;)

The cache is arguably part of the memory subsystem, though for efficiency it's often placed on the same die with the CPUs. A processor is the thing that does processing. Besides, all multi-CPU chips that I know of have dedicated L1 caches for each CPU, and many even have dedicated L2 caches.

I like this portable-desktop approact to laptops (3, Interesting)

shinmai (632532) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680753)

At first the idea sounded idiotic, but I might actually replace my outdated desktop with something like this. I've now used laptop computers pretty much exclusively for about two years now. I do have two desktops at home, but I rarely use them, and they're more for quests who stay long enough to need a computer they can use. I do everything on my laptop, and if I need more uumpf, I use VNC to connect to our bedroom-server-thing or use one of the desktops remotely. I notice that whenever I actually sit down on a desktop computer for more than a few minutes, at some point I feel the need to pick the thing up and move somewhere to do other things while continuing to work with the machine. While there have been more and more powerful laptops in recent years, I've still been waiting for a real powerhouse of a machine to actually toss out my old desktop instead of just replacing my latest laptop. Something like this might be it.

The problem with desktop replacements (5, Informative)

Piata (927858) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680931)

As someone that is using a laptop as desktop replacement, I have to say it's great to be able to have so much portable power but it does have it's downsides:

1. They tend to weigh a lot, making travel with it a bit of a pain and an annoyance for daily use in multiple locations.
2. They tend to run extremely hot.
3. They cost a lot more for the equivalent desktop hardware.
4. Less upgradable.
5. Nvidia doesn't update their mobile chipset drivers.

My next computer will definitely be a desktop.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (1)

shinmai (632532) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681051)

My plan was to have one desktop-laptop, and a whole other more portable laptop for daily carrying-around and to be used in my actual lap.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681169)

If there was a netbook with a larger display, like the macbook pro's 17inch display, then remote desktop/vnc would be the perfect setup

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (1)

JJNess (1238668) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682657)

This has a 17" screen (only 1440x900) with HDMI outputs. The gateway p-7811fx has a 17" screen that is WUXGA+ (or something, correct me if I'm wrong on that name) that is full HD.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (1)

Sancho (17056) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681413)

I like sitting on my couch and using my laptop. It's way more comfortable than sitting at a desk, and I can interact with other people in the room, watch TV, etc, so when I want to get a powerful computer, I always look at laptops first. To this end, things like weight, size, and battery life are less of a concern. You do tend to pay for the convenience, as you note, both in the fact that you can't upgrade cheaply and in a high up-front cost.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (2, Informative)

scandalon (1021347) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681505)

I highly recommend checking out LaptopVideo2Go [laptopvideo2go.com] . You can install the desktop drivers on your laptop with a simple swap of an .inf file.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682157)

To be fair I use my laptop as my main computer with my desktop as a server. Yes it runs hotter when I do gaming and yes it's heavier than I'd like when I walk a mile to work every day but it's worth it.

I can run apache, tomcat, mysql, netbeans, Firefox, Windows media player amongst other things and it doesn't break a sweat. As far as the weight, it's probably making me healthier by lugging it around and the battery life lasts my bus journey so I can't really complain.

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25682739)

Had problems with the Toshiba and they were NO help, what will make this different? Any help to recover what I have lost would be GREAT! Even in a law suit that went no where....arggg

Any insight please e-mail me: tsdfitz@yahoo.com

Re:The problem with desktop replacements (1)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#25683213)

#2 Seems to be caused by lint buildup in the heatsink fan enclosure. It's not just lint on the outside grill but right inside the cavity space as well. For my old laptop, cleaning that out make the fans quieter, reduced the highest temperature down to 65C and extended the battery life.

The only things that cook my laptop now are 'npviewer.bin' and 'acroread', both of which seem to be sucking up virtual memory before eventually forcing the system into a permanently memory swapping state.

ewww (5, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680761)

My, that's an ugly looking laptop. Here's hoping Toshiba (or someone else) makes something similar in a nicer looking body.

Re:ewww (4, Funny)

ZenShadow (101870) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681213)

That's called the MacBook Pro.

Re:ewww (3, Informative)

Draek (916851) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681713)

Yeah, except that a 9400+9600 hybrid SLI setup isn't the same thing as a twin 9800 SLI one, sorry.

Re:ewww (1)

Paul Slocum (598127) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681757)

No shit, why can't anybody but Apple design a good looking computer? It's not rocket science, it requires only some basic understanding of art/design history to avoid the monstrosities that PC makers put out. Only nice thing about it is that my PC laptop is so ugly that I don't care, I spray paint it, duct tape the broken piece on the bottom, whatever. Some of my MacBook friends have actually said that they envy my ability to paint it and not care what it looks like, haha.

Re:ewww (1)

ChrisA90278 (905188) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681491)

Yes, Apple has already done it. Their new notebook, in stores now, has the integrated GPU with the bigger there if require too. Kind of the same thing but on a nicer aluminum uni-body and glass package.

Re:ewww (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681753)

Yeah! You could pay the same amount for a "prettier" one from Apple, even though its specs are shit compared to this one.

Viva la cute!

Re:ewww (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682233)

People can slag off Apple all they want (because it's true their hardware is way over priced) but PC manufactuers come off retarded when it comes to hardware design. Apple is king and their design is so simple. I can't believe no one in the PC side of things has the balls to rip them off and instead try to make PC look like a shipping container or a whore.

Re:ewww (1)

JJNess (1238668) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682601)

I have this laptop (well, the q701 model (9700GTS, 200gb HDD). The flames have kind of grown on me. But as a desktop replacement, I rarely close the thing (the heat comes up through the keyboard (nothing scorching, yet) and closing the lid while it's running will eventually melt or wear out your screen. Plus, the speakers are muffled, and this thing sounds GREAT with 4 harmon-kardon speakers and a subwoofer under it). I rarely see the design as it sits on my desk. A few cons to this particular model: the keyboard feels cheap, glossy, and flexes to the right towards the (not a con: full number pad). The screen is only 1440x900 (but it has HDMI for my (future purchase of a) 42+" 1080p tv). There's little else (so far) to complain about.

Cool, but: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25680779)

Does it run Linux?

Another meme... (0, Redundant)

repvik (96666) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681553)

Slightly paraphrased: Won't anyone think of the environment?!

power (0, Redundant)

xenolion (1371363) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680861)

Whats the battery life when all the GPUs kick in 5 minutes???

Re:power (1)

nitsnipe (1332543) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681269)

Who in the right mind would turn on SLI while on battery power? You would not even have enough time to save whatever game you're playing.
But if you need to run a dictionary attack in order to break into some access point it would be great ( if we had NVIDIA CUDA APPs that did that).

I see where this is going... (5, Funny)

Frizzle Fry (149026) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680869)

Re:I see where this is going... (1)

wjh31 (1372867) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681147)

id much rather have 5 blades in a laptop than in a razor

Re:I see where this is going... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681535)

I don't believe Id makes hardware.

Re:I see where this is going... (5, Interesting)

llamalicious (448215) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681569)

The funny thing about that Onion piece, is the a couple years later Gillette really went and made a five-blade razor.

Score one for the onion!

Re:I see where this is going... (1)

Loibisch (964797) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682099)

Score one for the onion!

...score 1712863 for the rest of the world.

Re:I see where this is going... (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682151)

The adage is: Life follows the Onion.

Re:I see where this is going... (2, Funny)

vux984 (928602) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682521)

The funny thing about that Onion piece, is the a couple years later Gillette really went and made a five-blade razor.

Even funnier, they then went on to one-upped themselves and released one with SIX.

Re:I see where this is going... (2, Informative)

vux984 (928602) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681625)

Fuck Everything, We're Doing Five Blades

Why stop there? The latest "Gillette Fusion Power Phenom" razor has SIX.

5 blades plus a 'precision trimmer' on back side.
Oh... and don't forget: it vibrates too!

http://www.gillette.com/en-US/#/products/phenom/en-US/index.shtml/ [gillette.com]

Re:I see where this is going... (1)

sohp (22984) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682009)

Oddly, at least in the non-vibrating version, the cartridges are cheaper per unit than Gillette's older 3-blade Sensor.

Re:I see where this is going... (1)

great om (18682) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682471)

the nonvibrating cartridges work fine in the vibrating razor, as well, even with the vibration turned on

I actually hadn't thought of it before.. (3, Interesting)

shinmai (632532) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680889)

..but Toshiba often seems to launch new and previously unheard of things in their computers. Still they're not very popular (at least with anyone I know) when compared to the more "mundane" manufacturers.

Re:I actually hadn't thought of it before.. (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681451)

Still they're not very popular (at least with anyone I know) when compared to the more "mundane" manufacturers.

Ask the folks you know if their laptop price was far more important to them than a robust feature-set...

Toshiba is the brand I usually recommend here at the shop if just FOR those "extras"...with Panasonic Toughbooks for hard-core field use as a second.

Why? (0)

taupin (1047372) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680927)

Why is this a laptop?

Re:Why? (1)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681039)

The same technology is available in newer desktops. It's a new feature in nVidia hardware so that you don't have to use your machine as a space heater when you're just surfing the web. They're actually also supposed to be doing some kind of SLI using the onboard GPU and any additional GPU you've got plugged in. (not on this laptop obviously because they've already got two separate GPUs, but in the case when you've got just one video card and onboard video you're supposed to be able to do it.)

Re:Why? (1)

nitsnipe (1332543) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681291)

It's called a luggable.

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

ZachPruckowski (918562) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681303)

LAN Parties. It's not so much a laptop as a portable computer.

Re:Why? (1)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681633)

You don't need that much power to play StarCraft.

What else can you play at a "LAN" party (no external servers) that needs the oomph?

Re:Why? (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682215)

You could play Red Alert 3. It would have to be less painful than trying to get it to work over the internet. Stupid Westwood still using network code from 1998...

Re:Why? (1)

dal20402 (895630) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682171)

Because laptops under ten pounds are for chicks and homosexuals.

Real men can carry the weight in their Ford F-450s.

</sarcasm>

Battery Life (4, Funny)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 5 years ago | (#25680993)

Battery life is an amazing 2.4 seconds, but you can buy an extended battery and extend the life to 1 minute 15 seconds. Or, almost long enough for it to boot up.

Weight (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681727)

It also weighs in at a svelt 11 kilos. Definitely the road warrior's first choice.

Like a portable rackmount server with UPS, (0)

NRAdude (166969) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682417)

That 2 seconds of battery-backup is a feature, not an impediment. With the performance of that wonderful RAMBUS rdram and SATA(n) hard-disk array should allow the system to preserve itself into hibernate-mode in just about 3 seconds. Maybe there is a Vista program like Weatherbug that will pop-up to give you notice that the power to the UPS has been lost, as well as the local system temperature or some crap like that.

Don't be with Apple's Think Different(tm) crowd, think of Microsoft' inspired Think Progress(tm) crowd: progress is a grizzly-bear stacking as much fat on him for the winter hibernation like a body-builder frantically burning fat for his summer competition.

In this case, Vista fails to hibernate, while Linux is such a cooler-running server that it surely would know to preserve the active useful database applications onto the hibernate partition and ignore everything else like the state of X, KDE/Gnome/XFCe, processor registers, Database maintenance, CGI stack, WAN and VPN sessions, and who knows else that Microsoft could care less about.

I hope I hit the funny sarcasm bone less than the Off-topic Insightful tag. Metamod is a Pokemon I hear, go CowboyNeal3Core I choose you!

Better hardware then the mac book pro at the same (1, Informative)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681119)

Better hardware then the mac book pro at the same price. why can't apple have at least one 9800m in the mac book pro? at $2000 9600m is a poor gpu for the price.

Re:Better hardware then the mac book pro at the sa (1, Informative)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681347)

IMO... because you are paying for two things - the Apple name and the lack of competition for Apple, since they have closed OS X to only Mac hardware.

Next Week... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681137)

Sure, we could go to four GPUs next, like the competition. That seems like the logical thing to do. After all, three worked out pretty well, and four is the next number after three. So let's play it safe. Why innovate when we can follow? Oh, I know why: Because we're a business, that's why!

You think it's crazy? It is crazy. But I don't give a shit. From now on, we're the ones who have the edge in the multi-GPU game. Are they the best a man can get? Fuck, no. Apple is the best a man can get.

Pricing? (4, Funny)

CaptainPatent (1087643) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681165)

The [Qosmio] X305-Q706 costs $1,999 US (£1,257) in the US, although we haven't seen any UK pricing on the laptops yet.

I think I saw UK pricing on that somewhere... oh yeah:

The [Qosmio] X305-Q706 costs $1,999 US (£1,257) in the US, although we haven't seen any UK pricing on the laptops yet.

Re:Pricing? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681329)

That's not the UK price, it's the US price converted to GBP. It's entirely conceivable - and, in fact, likely - that the laptop will retail for a different, higher price in the UK.

At least, that's the way it always goes.

Re:Pricing? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681759)

That's not a serious comment, it's a joke converted to a Slashdot post. It's entirely conceivable - and, in fact, likely - that the parent poster will need to obtain a different, better sense of humor.

I had to make a few substitutions but I fixed it.

Re:Pricing? (3, Insightful)

should_be_linear (779431) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681399)

Its more like:

The [Qosmio] X305-Q706 costs $1,999 US (£1,257) in the US, although we haven't seen any UK pricing on the laptops yet.

Re:Pricing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25682107)

That's the equivalent of the US price in GBP, the actual price here will be MUCH higher, even taking into account Value Added Tax (sales tax).

Implementation is key to this (4, Insightful)

GIL_Dude (850471) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681187)

After having fought with the Lenovo T400 (with the ATI graphics and the built in Intel graphics) in "switchable" mode, I can only hope that Toshiba was able to implement theirs in a way that works well even across the edge cases of configuration and usage.

For example on the T400, it switches (by default) to the Intel integrated when you go to battery. If you use the machine on a port replicator with dual monitors (like is common for us) you get the two screens identified as number 3 and 4 instead of 1 and 2. AND - when you redock, they switch back and forth (primary screen switches from one side to the other). It works so poorly in a docking scenario that we just disabled it in the BIOS (so it is always on the ATI or 'discrete' graphics).

This is one of those ideas that sounds great, but if implemented poorly leaves me scratching my head and wondering why someone designed something so stupid.

Here's hoping that Lenovo works this out and that this implementation from Toshiba works right out of the gate.

Does this mean death of The BOX? (2, Insightful)

nitsnipe (1332543) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681191)

I think there's quite a market for these types of laptops. While the the disadvantages are that they are huge, weight a ton and toast your lap, they pack quite a bit of portable power. But the battery life should be pretty good when you're running with just the integrated graphics.
First they would be ideal for people who go to LAN parties.
Second, if you are a serious designer working in 3D animation this may be the only PC you need.
Thirdly, NVIDIA CUDA has shown a lot of promise so far, with time we will have more applications that make heavy use of the GPU (hopefully a lot of cryptography applications).

And that quad-core cpu should also be really good for running several virtual machines in VMWare (or virtual box or qemu). This laptop can fulfill the heavy computer needs of most users. The only problem is whether you are ready to pay 3 times the price for a bit more portability.

Re:Does this mean death of The BOX? (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681591)

The dell precision line might be better for making 3D animation since they come with the quadro line of video cards. I am hoping this makes dell drop the price on their orange or M6400 one since when spec'd out it cost like $5000. For an all around kick butt portable desktop either of those look good on paper. I'd like to see how they hold up after 3-9 months of use. The dell interested me with the quad core cpu, up to 16GB of RAM, and the 1GB video card. It is not an extreme gamer machine, but it should do most things well. Now if I could only get it with 8GB of ram for $2300....

Who needs battery life... (5, Funny)

Wiarumas (919682) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681293)

Who needs battery life when you can play Fallout3 on the crapper!

Re:Who needs battery life... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681903)

Using the Qosmio X305-Q706 on the crapper? You do know what that means right?

Hot shit.

This laptop is hot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681337)

Yes, I mean literally hot!

Re:This laptop is hot! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681915)

Who let paris hilton in here?

bois not linux or vm friendly (5, Informative)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681583)

Every Toshiba I have looked at, after finding out mine had this issue, has hvm disabled. Not "they use a bios that is not "Intel Virtualization Technology-enabled". Flat out disabled with no way of turning it on. Add to this the fact that every bios update for my laptop has made it more and more difficult to get Linux running properly. No sound? hack bios rebuild kernel and init. No fan for GPU? hack bios - rebuild kernel and init... I'm waiting for the bios that looks to see if I have nothing vista'ish on the drive and disables me turning it on.

Re:bois not linux or vm friendly (1)

pdxp (1213906) | more than 5 years ago | (#25683109)

I think bois have a lot less experience than men, they will learn over time though and be more friendly to those technologies.

Biznat3h (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681809)

development moDels rival distribution, AAsholes, as they to get some eye

What's funny is (2, Interesting)

areusche (1297613) | more than 5 years ago | (#25681821)

I never see people actually use the batteries in their laptops. They're always tethered to some wall outlet. That's half the reason I own a laptop! I never carry my magsafe adapter and run all around town with my macbook pro and still can get home with enough charge to plop down on my sofa!

That's because... (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682353)

I never carry my magsafe adapter

I think about that, since unless I'm working somewhere I can plop the laptop down on the cable to hold it in place it invariably gets unplugged when a flea sneezes near the adapter and I end up running the battery down anyway.

They should call it "worksafe", because it keeps you safe from having to actually work.

Impressive Battery Life (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25681829)

...of one half of 10 minutes.

No worry about sterilization! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25682111)

With Toshiba's new laptop, now I'll know FOR SURE that I can't have children. Time to line my pants with those space shuttle tiles...

I read the name as "Quasimoto" (2, Funny)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682217)

Because that's who you're gonna look like after carrying this thing around for a couple of weeks.

Re:I read the name as "Quasimoto" (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682385)

? Bueno, la idea es eso

Does it run OS X? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#25682301)

This would make a great Macbook Pro!

oblig. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25682305)

Does this mean I can finally run vista?

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