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Bug In Android Passes Keystrokes To Root Shell

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the watch-what-you-type dept.

Bug 205

pasokon writes "ZDNet reports on an Android bug in T-Mobile G1s with early versions of the firmware: 'When the phone booted it started up a command shell as root and sent every keystroke you ever typed on the keyboard from then on to that shell. Thus every word you typed, in addition to going to the foreground application would be silently and invisibly interpreted as a command and executed with superuser privileges. ... open the keyboard tray on your G1, ignore anything you see on the screen, and type these 8 keystrokes: (enter)-r-e-b-o-o-t-(enter). Poof, your phone will reboot.'"

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205 comments

This is simply mind-boggling. (5, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688597)

I can't imagine how or why anyone could accidentally pipe all user input through a root shell. This is one for the WTF of the decade.

-jcr

Re:This is simply mind-boggling. (5, Informative)

Otto (17870) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688861)

Read this:
http://android.jim.sh/index.php/ConsoleShell [android.jim.sh]

Looks like debugging code left behind...

Re:This is simply mind-boggling. (4, Funny)

ultramk (470198) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688895)

This is obviously bad for Apple. I mean if the iPhone weren't all like, locked down, and, um....

Yeah, anyway, the iPhone is done for, no question. I mean you can't even GET to root shell on an iPhone, and here it is a standard feature on Android! Mind-boggling indeed!

Re:This is simply mind-boggling. (1)

hummassa (157160) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689647)


my_iPhone$ su -
Password:alpine
my_iPhone#

You are waaayyy late :-)

whereis google? (0)

junglee_iitk (651040) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688909)

no matches found: google?

Re:This is simply mind-boggling. (4, Insightful)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689177)

I can perfectly well imagine someone purposely piping all the user input to root shell for easy debug and development, then forgetting to disable it in the release version.

Re:This is simply mind-boggling. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689475)

A better way would be to require holding down e.g. "c" during boot to enable it. Automatically sending ALL keystrokes to the console is a bad idea, even for debugging.

telnetd (0)

ters a-zA-Z0-9$_.+!* (1177175) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688599)

much nicer than telnet

Uh oh (1, Interesting)

areusche (1297613) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688611)

So would typing:

Enter shred -vfz -n 100 /dev/hda

Do what I think it would do?

Re:Uh oh (3, Funny)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688647)

I am typing this from my Android. I have tried this and I don't have any pr
NO CARRIER

Surely you can't be serious... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688981)

I'm sending this from my Android right now... you're telling me that my phone is going to reset if I just type reboo

Re:Uh oh (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688659)

Maybe you should try this one:
enter rm -Rf / enter

Just to be sure.

Nah it'll never work (2, Insightful)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688717)

shred won't be installed.

cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda is far more likely to work.

HTH
 

Re:Nah it'll never work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689023)

cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda screw the fs as much but run much faster.

Re:Nah it'll never work (2, Funny)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689339)

~$ echo "candlejack" > /dev/hda
bash: /dev/hda: Permission den

Re:Nah it'll never work (2, Interesting)

Bottlemaster (449635) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689107)

cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda is far more likely to work.

While true, you're not raising the bar much. I don't think anyone has managed to fit an IDE drive into the phone yet.

Scary (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688617)

Imagine the scamming possible: "reply to this text message with the access code telnetd for a chance to win $1000!"

Confluence (5, Funny)

RomSteady (533144) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688621)

Suddenly, the memory-and-keystroke-saving command names of the past combine with the keystroke-saving text-speak of the present to create the nightmarish user interaction bugs of the future.

Re:Confluence (5, Funny)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688829)

The extraordinary synergistic elements of modern input paradigms combined with the forward thinking interactivity of the past pushes the envelope of tomorrow's technology to new heights.

Re:Confluence (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689047)

Fuck, that made my brain hurt. Watch it, along with /vertisements, they're seeding the comments section with marketroids.

Re:Confluence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689459)

My God... it's full of stars.

reboot (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688623)

doesn't wo

Easier than the iPhone (0, Redundant)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688641)

I guess it will be easier to jailbreak than the iPhone. It's not a bug, it's a feature! I wonder what happens when you type "(enter)rm /*.* -r(enter)", and is it warrantied?

Re:Easier than the iPhone (5, Funny)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688803)

In the name of all that is holy, who has a file matching *.* in their root?!

Re:Easier than the iPhone (1)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688915)

initrd.img
vmlinuz.old

Re:Easier than the iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689229)

Yeah, two useless links which will not be missed if you delete them.

Re:Easier than the iPhone (1)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689367)

I didn't suggest that they were in any way important - I was just being pedantic.

Re:Easier than the iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689819)

They aren't necessarily links. I remember a time when I had vmlinuz in / (because I had no /boot partition, because I had no use for it).

Don't forget that your Linux setup is not the only way things are done.

Re:Easier than the iPhone (1)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688933)

Really insane WINE users? :)

Re:Easier than the iPhone (4, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688945)

In the name of all that is holy, who has a file matching *.* in their root?!

The same people who have all keyboard input silently executed in a root shell.

Re:Easier than the iPhone (1)

fatphil (181876) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689521)

Me.

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Aug 22 16:48 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img

Re:Easier than the iPhone (1)

eggnet (75425) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688851)

it's

rm -rf /

Re:Easier than the iPhone (2, Interesting)

houstonbofh (602064) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688929)

Frankly, I wanted to make sure it would NOT work, but convey the idea. Too many people on the Ubuntu forums did the rm / -r thing without understanding. It is even sticky now...

Re:Easier than the iPhone (3, Funny)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689451)

Good. You should never enter a command you don't understand. I'm all for raising the bar above water level.

Simple fix (-1, Redundant)

xanxere (1402883) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688643)

rm -rf

Open source, remember? fix already out (4, Informative)

dnwq (910646) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688651)

From TFA:

If you see anything later than RC29 then you already have the fix.

Because Android is open source, the problem was quickly tracked down by users to a couple lines in the system file init.rc. My guess is that this was accidentally left in during device debugging.

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (5, Insightful)

Halborr (1373599) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688801)

Ah, the beauty of FOSS.

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (5, Interesting)

Khyber (864651) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688987)

Bingo - You won't see this sort of turnaround time for a fix for the iPhone.

and this is why FOSS is a champion to me - the community fixes the issue and everyone else can check the fix to make sure it's not malicious.

And this is why all gov't entities in the USA should use FOSS. The people/community as a whole can do a better job of keeping the government secure than corporations can.

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689811)

"And nothing of value was lost."

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (1)

git68 (957160) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689049)

I am not a programmer but debugging by piping all keyboard input to a root shell, wtf?!

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (2, Insightful)

topham (32406) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689543)

I am a programmer and I am entirely and absolutely dumb-struck by this revelation.

That is absolutely the most asinine debug method I have ever head and I am seriously wondering if it was an intentional backdoor.
Never, Ever send random commands to a shell. Hell, we are talking a unix base, there are hundreds, of not thousands of 2 and 3 letter functions which do 'something' and a significant number of them are not harmless. I realize the phone is not likely to have all of them, but it will have a number of them. 'rm' being a good example.

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (1)

rivetgeek (977479) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689595)

yes but typing 'rm' just prompts for an argument. what are the chances someone would accidentally type 'rm -rf *'

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (2, Insightful)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689611)

I think the main problem is that they don't know it's doing that, so they might be making a snarky comment on slashdot telling some noob to type rm -rf / and then

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (1)

rivetgeek (977479) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689633)

fair enough

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (1)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689669)

It's still not that likely to happen accidentally, but it's a huge gaping security hole. This kind of thing should really be tested more.

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (2, Interesting)

harry666t (1062422) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689627)

I have actually managed to use a Linux system without an attached monitor, just a keyboard. I've been writing commands blindly and using "foo && python -c 'print chr(7)'" and alike to get some feedback through PC speaker. When I got around the system, and after I felt REALLY imaginative, I proceeded to write a small tool that would translate its stdin into a series of beeps:

python -c 'sys,time=__import__("sys"),__import__("time"); time.sleep(3); beepn = lambda x: [(sys.stdout.write(chr(7)), sys.stdout.flush(), time.sleep(0.3)) for i in range(int(x))]; [(beepn(ord(ch)/16), time.sleep(1), beepn(ord(ch)%16), time.sleep(2)) for ch in raw_input()]'

Yeah, it would beep ASCII codes of each char in hex.

It was fun :)

Re:Open source, remember? fix already out (1)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689689)

I am not worthy.

Life under the thumb of cellular phone companies.. (5, Interesting)

Rahga (13479) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688653)

Are we really that messed up as a society?

If I type "Reboot" and the device actually reboots, doesn't that mean it's working?

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (5, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688691)

Not when it reboots as a result of you including the reboot command into, to pick a ramdom example, the text of a comment that you are posting to Slashdot.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (-1, Redundant)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688761)

Yeah sure, like my phone is just going to do that by itself because I type the word reboot*%$@#(NO CARRIER

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (5, Funny)

von_rick (944421) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688897)

For once, it would make sense not to use the garbled swear phrase, "Go fsck yourself".

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688765)

How often do you type (ENTER)reboot(ENTER) ?

Most likely your comment will have words in the line that proceed reboot.

Where you are in danger is sending someone a text message like "reboot it"

Or trying to send a text message with a unix command in it.

A workaround might be to type something like 'cat' (enter), or "PATH=/" (enter) into the KB, every time you turn your phone on, and refrain from hitting Ctrl-C

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

Pogue Mahone (265053) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688991)

Your "foom" message could be an email looking something like this:

--- cut here --- cut here ---

Dear Luser,

If you want to reboot your machine, just type

        reboot

into a root shell.

Love from Pogue

--- cut here --- cut here ---

(except you wouldn't get that far ;-)

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (5, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689197)

Dear Luser,

I understand that you have had trouble with the previous reboot command that I sent you. Please try this alternative method. Type:
rm -rf /
into a root shell. E-mail me if you have any further troubles.

Sincerely,
BOFH

Instant karma's a bitch.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689361)

Wait, a Unix command? Darn, I was thinking of getting an android phone because it was supposed to be open source. Now you are telling me that Darl McBride owns Android? That's just wrong.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (2, Insightful)

risinganger (586395) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689423)

You know that's not the point. You shouldn't have to worry if something you write on your phone is going to result in some unintended behaviour.

If that was the iPhone slashdot users would be going ballistic right now - and rightly so.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689489)

You know... I like this a lot better than _not being able_ to get any shell on my phone.

It may be a bug, but a side effect that is pleasant is the end user has more control over the device than they would have over most consumer electronics.

In most products, the manufacturer goes out of their way to make sure the end user can't gain access to such things as a shell, by using secret passwords, signed binaries, and such...

Yes, it's also risky.. if commands like "rm -rf ROOT_FILESYSTEM_PATH" actually do anything (other than result in a silent error due to say "read only filesystem")

But no well-experienced Unix admin dares type in the actual command to "rm -rf" the system root directory in any context whatsoever.

I suspect the fix will be more unfortunate than the bug... removing the ability to get any shell access to the phone at all.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

kcbanner (929309) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689263)

well the command "LOL COMMENT reboot" won't execute. The command "reboot isn't tickles lawl" might cause an unexpected reset.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

pablomme (1270790) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689551)

The command "reboot isn't tickles lawl" might cause an unexpected reset.

Not until you type another single quote and press enter, though.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

kcbanner (929309) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689585)

well played!

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

Evanisincontrol (830057) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688695)

Sort of. The problem is that it also means if you're texting a buddy of yours or writing a memo, and you just happen to type "reboot" and press enter in your message, then your phone restarts. You probably didn't want that to happen.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688743)

You'd have to press enter then reboot then enter again. Otherwise reboot will be at the end of a long string of crap that the shell won't understand anyway. How many times are these phones returning 'command not found' I wonder.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688971)

On the android enter sends a text.

So it is a real option to type it at the start of an SMS when trouble shooting with someone.

ME:What's hapening <hits enter>
Friend:random problem
Me:reboot <hits enter>

Still not likely.

I also find it interesting that just typing telnetd allows remote acces, without opening a shell.

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (1)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689255)

$ reboot
reboot: Need to be root

Re:Life under the thumb of cellular phone companie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689685)

Bah pansy! Real man run as root! [garyshood.com]

A Conversation (5, Funny)

atomicthumbs (824207) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688657)

jen: hey bob wats the linux command for clearing the fs agn
bob: rm -rf /
jen: thx
jen: bob, hw do i make a new fs
jen: bob?

Re:A Conversation (5, Funny)

BauerUK (1387393) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688813)

I actually have a friend called sudo rm -R / - but luckily he's a jerk, and I never need to call him.

Re:A Conversation (2, Funny)

eggnet (75425) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688885)

funny yes, but the shell is already root so there is no sudo necessary.

Seriously Google... (4, Interesting)

yttrstein (891553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688699)

That's some amateur shit to have made it beyond beta 1. What the hell are your programmers doing all day?

I'm starting to get a little suspicious, to be frank. You've existed for many, many moons, Google...you have over 20,000 employees. You have computing capacity that's normally limited to that of small countries. Shouldn't you be a little further along by now?

Re:Seriously Google... (-1, Flamebait)

yttrstein (891553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689007)

Once again modded down by children who don't read histories. Lets see, that's two points that I can now (according to my promise, see, poetically, my history) go and use to randomly mod down some randomly selected posts that probably deserve the opposite.

I suppose I could redeem myself in the eyes of these children and possibly reverse the above score by explaining (and giving three or four examples) of the kinds of things you hear from Google employees when you share a taste for coffee and when you happen to work across the street from their headquarters in Manhattan.

But why bother posting that kind of thing here, where it would be most assuredly lost in the effluvia of adolescent males?

Feel free to mod this down too. I've got five points left at the moment and so far only two have been accounted for.

Re:Seriously Google... (-1, Offtopic)

yttrstein (891553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689153)

Three points. Keep it up.

Re:Seriously Google... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689187)

Wait how do you know that this isn't happening to you because someone else already came up with your idea?

Regardless, I like it. Slashdot has been dead for years. I'm in. Make it 8 points.

Re:Seriously Google... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689637)

12 points!

Re:Seriously Google... (2, Interesting)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689161)

I have read the headline as "Android allows remote root access" and was like "Not a big surprise" immediately.

Ordinary people, not just techies got way paranoid about Google and such bugs only serves to validate them.

People modding you as troll should understand what Android is supposed to race with. Damn secure, stable, 200 million installed Symbian which is soon to be open source and Windows Mobile by the mafioso style company Microsoft which gets huge support from their Windows desktop dominance. Lets not forget actual J2ME which must be nearing a billion installed base too. People seems to forget that Google is the minority there, in smart phone business.

I still don't get why they didn't support Symbian foundation or Sun J2ME anyway.

Degradation (2, Informative)

Ashcrow (469400) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688709)

This coming from Google? That surprises (and scares) me. I don't know how something like that would get through a QA process unless the QA process was rushed ... oh no, please don't become like almost every other software company out there Google! :-/

Re:Degradation (1)

MaskedSlacker (911878) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688783)

Too late.

Re:Degradation (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689189)

What QA?

As if there were Google products that actually pass beta before DNF is out... lol. ;)

Re:Degradation (2, Interesting)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689221)

Their install process on OS X (Google Desktop) has horrified people so much that there is article about it on Daring Fireball, Gruber's blog.

http://daringfireball.net/2007/04/google_desktop_installer [daringfireball.net] , especially the part where it messes with /System (shouldn't even go there unless you code kernel extensions)

Their recent Chrome install process on Windows is also a horrible way of doing things,
http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2008/09/04/Dissecting-the-Google-Chrome-setup.aspx [robmensching.com]

If you notice, they are all paranoia triggering, needless amateur things. Of course, they are all easily fixed, tracked since it is a full feature desktop OS you run. The real issue is, every bit of data on users smart phone is highly critical and personal. The companies in mobile business are more paranoid than you can ever want. I can easily tell, such a bug can't exist on a Symbian running Nokia. Of course, bugs exist but not that level.

They can't be like other software companies since other companies have very strict requirements, tests. It is only Apple and Google safe from any criticism thanks to their fans (!).

False (2, Interesting)

cicatrix1 (123440) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688725)

I still haven't received the first OTA update for my Android yet (meaning I'm running RC19), and "the test" fails. My phone does not reboot.

Re:False (5, Informative)

cicatrix1 (123440) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688757)

Update: oops. it's real!

I restarted my phone manually, and tried this on a fresh boot. My phone did immediately restart. Yikes.

Re:False (2, Interesting)

kitgerrits (1034262) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688777)

Try this:
echo hello | passwd --stdin
Free root?

You might want to save passwd before doing this, though ;-)

Re:False (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688771)

Try it after a clean reboot. Restart your phone, and then type , r, e, b, o, o, t, .

Re:False (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688779)

Well maybe you typed something like "wc(enter)" beforehand, and from then on you're just typing to stdin of that command. To be sure try rebooting before you type "reboot(enter)"?

True (1)

Aerosiecki (147637) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688789)

I've got RC19 and this worked just fine, from the home screen, from an ssh app (where one might accidentally type the command intending it as genuine input), and even with the phone locked.

And honestly, this isn't that strange. Every phone I've owned has had some set of hidden commands that when keyed in will bring up debug info, reboot, etc. True, it's generally something much more obscure and less easy to accidentally trigger like a numeric sequence with octothorpes (#s) at either end.

I doubt this is a bug at all, just a poorly-chosen way to enact a standard system operation (that, I might add, if you use the browser a lot, you sorely need once a day or so).

Re:True (2, Insightful)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688905)

Nah, this was definitely a bug. A root terminal always capturing input? Definitely debugging code left behind. That would be so easy to exploit it's ridiculous.

Curious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25688729)

Delete *

Re:Curious (0, Offtopic)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688767)

AC? Are you still there?

Hello?

convenient problem (0, Flamebait)

hort_wort (1401963) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688835)

Hmm, what do you know... another obvious quirk to the Android that gets it on the frontpage of slashdot. I'm beginning to suspect it could be intentional for free advertising at this point. But then, who am I to question OS compilation? I couldn't even get Gentoo to run.

Re:convenient problem (2, Funny)

rugatero (1292060) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688959)

I'm beginning to suspect it could be intentional for free advertising at this point.

Only if they're advertising iPhones or BlackBerrys.

Re:convenient problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689591)

I couldn't even get Gentoo to run.

What a clumsy wuss you are.

Scary (4, Interesting)

flawd1 (1402891) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688853)

I'm on firmware 1.0 and TC4-RC29 and it works. That's kind of scary... Especially because I SSH'd into a friend's server and wrote out rm -rf / ... just to be funny ... I didn't hit enter of course but if I did...

Re:Scary (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689227)

rm -rf / would not work. The key binding to type / (alt-another key) on the G1 is not recognized by the console.

Re:Scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689253)

Then it's really funny.

Dang. My other slashdot username is "rm -rf /" (2, Funny)

thisisauniqueid (825395) | more than 5 years ago | (#25688893)

I wondered why I couldn't use my phone anymore. I thought Slashdot got pwned by some worm that infected my Android browser after the last time I logged in...

I must be tired (2, Funny)

Normal Dan (1053064) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689083)

Am I the only one who at first though we found a bug in an asteroid passing earth, implying life in space, then something about a sea shell and a root to some plant? And all of this being some key to something, not sure what... Hmmm... I think I need more sleep.

Re:I must be tired (1)

ijakings (982830) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689373)

Yes. Next question?

Customers leave through the back door (2, Funny)

^_^x (178540) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689259)

After hearing about the backdoor kill switch, the platform became irrelevant to me in the first place. :/
Sad because I was looking forward to it. I guess there must be a way to block that though, right? Unless software updates remove the remover remover?
*looks at last sentence*
Wow... it's just not worth the effort to even begin that fight...

Re:Customers leave through the back door (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689499)

I'm not defending Android but the killswitch is typical FUD. Get over it. It is only applicable to apps they sell. Find a better reason like all of these bugs that are being found.

And on another note First generation people enjoy :)

JasonDP (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25689553)

I have the Android build:
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC29 115247

And i just tried this and it rebooted my phone. Really WTF. I imagine this will be fixed soon, but i do know several people have not received the RC29 OTA updates. I never did i had to manually update the phone, and as far as i know i do not have the patch to fix 'jailbreaking' the phone as its called.

I almost see that as a feature (1)

electrogeist (1345919) | more than 5 years ago | (#25689679)

aside from the silently and invisibly part, a shell bing available on boot isn't that bad of an idea?
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