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China Hijacks Popular BitTorrent Sites

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the state-is-still-not-your-friend dept.

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frogger writes "China is not new to censoring the Internet, but up until now, BitTorrent sites have never been blocked. Recently, however, several reports came in from China indicating that popular BitTorrent sites such as Mininova, isoHunt and The Pirate Bay had been hijacked. The sites became inaccessible, instead redirecting to the leading Chinese search engine Baidu."

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So, what have they found? (4, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691695)

This seems to be SOP whenever the Chinese authorities find content they like accessable by a search engine, just redirect the entire search engine to Baidu until the site owners comply.

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691753)

Just wondering, does Baidu have government connections? I remember seeing that it is the top search engine in China, but is it because it is the government de facto (de jure?) or because it just has mass appeal in China?

Re:So, what have they found? (3, Interesting)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691857)

Just wondering, does Baidu have government connections?

All Chinese companies have government connections. Well, they do if they want to have the slightest chance of being successful. That's what operating in a fascist-capitalist state means.

Re:So, what have they found? (4, Interesting)

c_forq (924234) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691875)

Let me rephrase: Is the government connection overt or covert? I have spent time in communist companies, with ventures owned 51% by the government, and I am wondering if this is one of those, a bit shady, or just a local company that the government would like to encourage growth of (similar to how in France, while on business trips, you assume you are being bugged and information will go to your local competition).

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692159)

To be perfectly honest with everyone here, I tried the China Channel addon for firefox, which links me to a proxy right inside China, and I can access these sites without fault.

Re:So, what have they found? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692211)

To be perfectly honest with everyone here, I don't understand why Asian women are so desirable to non-Asians.

Yeah, we get that smaller bodies == tighter pussies but, using that logic, do all women with big lips give great head? It's like saying that Nigger women are the best at sucking dick. Probably because they wolf down whole watermelons at a time, but that's beside the point.

Most Asians in America choose to embrace only the worst aspects of both cultures. I'd kill myself if I were born an Asian man, as my dick would be embarassingly miniscule as compared to that of a caucasian, or especially that of a negro; I'd be frequently put to shame by the cat I'd be eating for dinner tonight with my 12 relatives sharing my 2-bedroom apartment with me.

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692289)

> similar to how in France, while on business trips, you assume you are being bugged and information will go to your local competition

Do you? That's pretty interesting! Do you have any links to support this idea? I mean, I'm not saying I don't believe it, I can believe it, just interested is all.

Re:So, what have they found? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692311)

France? Don't you mean the United States? Or is it that the US prefers surveillance of electronic communications rather than hardware bugs?

Re:So, what have they found? (3, Insightful)

CodeBuster (516420) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692399)

Sometimes it is overt, as you have said with 51% direct ownership by the government, while other times it is more covert, in the form of companies or businesses which are owned, wholly or partly, by the Chinese army or by a Chinese citizen who is politically well connected but otherwise doesn't contribute much to the venture, the proverbial son of the boss. This seems to be getting better with time as Chinese businessmen and entrepreneurs with greater business acumen displace less competent political favorites despite being handicapped by government corruption.

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

EveLibertine (847955) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692455)

Yeah, but what about Baidu specifically?

Re:So, what have they found? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691891)

You haven't really answered the question. Technically every successful business in the US has "government connections" too. You can't even start a small business without paying a bunch of fees and buying a bunch of permits.

Re:So, what have they found? (4, Informative)

pha3r0 (1210530) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692335)

I disagree AC. I have just recently established my own small business. $25 and a one page form filed with the Secretary of State and I am doing business. Now should I want to take it further and go LLC or incorporate or what have you there will be many thousands spent on lawyers, taxes, bribes etc. But, I have a small business and the only government connect I have is to my P.O.( think Probation not Post)

Re:So, what have they found? (4, Informative)

Apple Acolyte (517892) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692469)

Now should I want to take it further and go LLC or incorporate or what have you there will be many thousands spent on lawyers, taxes, bribes etc.

You really think an LLC or corporation requires thousands in fees, taxes and bribes? Have you ever heard of legalzoom.com or bizfilings.com? They'll get either one of those business entities established for you for under $500. No lawyers need be involved. Now, if you're in a state that punishes small businesses like California you pay a huge $800 per year fee for your corporation or LLC regardless of whether you make a single cent or not, but in most states there are no such mandatory fees.

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

purpleraison (1042004) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692765)

Didn't cost me any lawyer fees in the US to create a LLC, but I guess I was just smart enough not to use the douche-bag scum of the earth (ie. 'lawyer') to set everything up; I just bought a book for $12.00... ...and by the way, it works for other stuff too, things such as; wills, power of attorney, contracts (yeah, you think they actually review them?), and other stuff...

Re:So, what have they found? (3, Interesting)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692447)

You haven't really answered the question. Technically every successful business in the US has "government connections" too. You can't even start a small business without paying a bunch of fees and buying a bunch of permits.

You're being pedantic. I took the GP to mean: does this major Chinese corporation have government contacts that demonstrate blatant favoratism? The answer (as with most Chinese businesses relative to foreign competition) is "yes".

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

Hungus (585181) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692055)

Last time I checked the Peoples Republic of China was a communist / mixed economy country not capitalist.

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692085)

You're buying into the illusion if that's what you think. Look at their economic behaviour instead of their founding principles (which was over half a century ago, i should add) and you'll see the GP is correct, or at least more correct than you.

_AC

Re:So, what have they found? (4, Interesting)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692177)

Hahahahahahaha

China is communist in nothing but name. You really need to go there and check it out. China is a place for the rich, and the business men. The peasants have barely any rights at all, although this is changing, albiet, slowly.

You can see, from one of China's own newspapers, that social welfare only meets 5% of demand [peopledaily.com.cn] . And even that is probably pushing it.

Re:So, what have they found? (2, Interesting)

Hungus (585181) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692575)

I have gone there and have friends there. you and your co-poster are mistaking corruption for capitalism.

Re:So, what have they found? (5, Informative)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692699)

How long did you go for? 2 weeks? A month? You can't see a country in just that time.

You will have to support your claims for it being communist... Because I've never seen anything to support that. Corruption in China, though not good, is much better than a lot of other countries, including India, and great pains are being made to reduce it.

I never said that corruption was a capitalist thing - it's not a communist thing either. In fact, I don't know of any political ideology that supports corruption.

The capitalist sentiment in China is very strong, especially in places like Shanghai. In Beijing, although the Mao Zedong 'religion' is thriving, things are not much different. The rich drive around in their BMW's while the poor try to carve out their lives in the slums, which were conveniently fenced off for the Olympics.

I haven't met many people in China who were dumb enough to believe that it is anything other than Capitalist, not in the cities anyway. It is usually just uninformed foreigners who would deign to believe anything other than the blatantly obvious truth - which China goes through no lengths to hide.

A lot of people in China still believe it is Communist, but that is mainly because they don't know what Communism is. They haven't read Karl Marx, or any other important Communist literature, and I wouldn't believe you have either.

Communism requires Socialism. Almost none of that is present in China. Free education? Ha! For a poor person, they can never expect to get into a good school, unless they are absolutely BRILLIANT at their studies, while the rich mofos just pay a bit of cash, and so the best schools are filled with stupid, ignorant, rich kids. University is no better, except, the truly rich parents usually send their kids to study overseas, where results vary.

No - China is a place for the rich, even more so than the US of A. True Communism has no place for the rich, but China does.

One major tell-tale sign of the inherent capitalism is the fact that most Chinese students studying overseas are studying business. If you have access to a nearby University, a quick survey will show you what the majority of them study. At my University (Victoria University), there were hundreds of Chinese studying Bachelors of Commerce, while there were barely any studying anything else, a few, but not many. Why? Because their parents know, that to succeed in China, one has to do business.

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692735)

your comment is o full of holes it deserves no more of an answer than this.

Science? (3, Informative)

MasaMuneCyrus (779918) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692801)

Perhaps no Chinese study science in Canada (or wherever Victoria University is), but at Purdue (Indiana, USA), you'd have to be blind to miss the Chinese studying in all fields of science. There's nearly as many Chinese students as there are black students, and lots of Chinese professors, too.

Re:Science? (1)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692849)

Yes there are also many Chinese students studying Science, which is a much better endeavour (IMHO). They are outnumbered however. China certainly needs more Science graduates. Also, it does heavily depend on the University. Victoria (Wellington, NZ) is not a science University, it is more renown for politics, literature and arts.

And - seeing as you have the opportunity, why not go say "hi" to some of the Chinese/black students - you'll learn a lot from them. You certainly won't agree on a lot of issues though.

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692855)

You are mistaking corruption for bureaucracy...

oh, my bad, one and the same...

Unless they see for themselves how it is... (1)

Xenographic (557057) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692721)

They won't understand if you put things like that, because most of us have our own ideas about what China is like based on the news we see in our own newspapers. Most of us have never been and will never go to China, so I doubt people will understand how the Chinese see their country.

That said, I recently found a site called chinaSMACK [chinasmack.com] which has helped me better understand how things are over there. Apparently, someone has enough spare time to translate random, popular blog posts and the comments on them into English. Maybe that will provide some perspective. Assuming anyone reads the information there, that is. We all know how many people like to comment without RTFA...

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

wellingj (1030460) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692961)

You can see, from one of China's own newspapers, that social welfare only meets 5% of demand. And even that is probably pushing it.

That sounds about like full fledged communism to me...

Re:So, what have they found? (3, Interesting)

SnEptUne (1264814) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692237)

If China isn't capitalistic, no place on earth is. Money is everything in China, you can bribe and do almost anything things with money.

For example, with money, you can dig up all the earth around a household you don't like, force people to work in hazard environments, dump toxic waste to your neighbour, and have people cut off their arms and legs, etc... just because you have money!

Pure capitalism to its finest.

Re:So, what have they found? (1, Interesting)

Grant_Watson (312705) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692757)

If China isn't capitalistic, no place on earth is. Money is everything in China, you can bribe and do almost anything things with money.

I don't think that fits any reasonable definition of capitalism, unless there's actually a market in the amputation of other people's arms and legs. Capitalism is an economic system. That's just corruption.

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

XDirtypunkX (1290358) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692943)

There is a reason it's called the black *market*. Corruption exists when you can transfer capital for goods and services that aren't legal, i.e. it is an aspect of capitalism.

Given that the black market really is unregulated in the true sense, it really is unfettered capitalism. That's right, the black market is freer than the market of any Western Democracy.

Capitalism itself can exist inside pretty much any other economic or political system, even if it's not legal. It's a blind and amoral economic device.

 

Re:So, what have they found? (3, Informative)

compro01 (777531) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691873)

A little of each. Baidu is a publicly traded corp on NASDAQ and it also operates in Japan, though this is definitely a case of government connections.

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692529)

du jour (of the day)

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

narcberry (1328009) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691809)

In before the lame jo
CARRIER LOST

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

Laser_iCE (1125271) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692279)

CARRIER LOST? For a second there I thought you said candlejack. You know, the g-

Re:So, what have they found? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692881)

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Go back to Gaia.

Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

Re:So, what have they found? (2, Funny)

Toe, The (545098) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692049)

If they were more clever, they would still allow torrents to look like they are working... but they would always just result in a download of a two-hour Mao-Is-Cool propaganda movie.

Re:So, what have they found? (1)

SnEptUne (1264814) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692325)

Chinese nationism at works here.

When you go to China and yelled Mao is a murderer, you will most likely be killed by angry citizens, not China authorities.

This is all Barack Obama's doin'! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691703)

Dang Socialists!

Re:This is all Barack Obama's doin'! (1, Interesting)

name*censored* (884880) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691767)

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but anyway...

Surely even the most dim-witted super-conservative would realise that even under Obama, USA is still the most conservative nation outside of the middle east and Austria. Therefore, calling Obama socialist (as a pejorative) is calling the rest of the world socialists (or worse). Given the vast number of western countries that are "socialist" and have been for some time, (and are still going strong sans economic crisis) the next logical conclusion is "Well, maybe "socialism" works?" (not that what Obama is advocating is actual socialism by any accepted definition of the word).

Sorry for the offtopic.

Re:This is all Barack Obama's doin'! (3, Informative)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691871)

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but anyway...

Surely even the most dim-witted super-conservative would realise that even under Obama, USA is still the most conservative nation outside of the middle east and Austria. Therefore, calling Obama socialist (as a pejorative) is calling the rest of the world socialists (or worse). Given the vast number of western countries that are "socialist" and have been for some time, (and are still going strong sans economic crisis) the next logical conclusion is "Well, maybe "socialism" works?" (not that what Obama is advocating is actual socialism by any accepted definition of the word).

Sorry for the offtopic.

No, the real question is this: what does one mean by "works"? Europe's brand of socialism wouldn't work for the U.S. for a variety of reasons, and our style of capitalism would probably be a disaster over there. There is one thing that a "working" socialism generally requires: an effective and trustworthy bureaucracy (Germany is a good example of this, I think.) The U.S. has an ever-expanding, ever more powerful bureacracy that has its own agenda, which coincides less and less with the needs of the people.

Re:This is all Barack Obama's doin'! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691893)

Removing peoples rights is wrong and by rights I mean forcing citizens to support a collective system and not giving them the choice to opt-out. It's irrelevant whether or not it works.

Putting every single person in jail might "work" at stopping crime but it doesn't make it right.

Censorship? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691717)

Wow, 0 posts and this story is already tagged censorship. The US does the same thing or worse, and that's protecting business interests... but China? No that's censorship. Point out that it's censorship in the US and prepare to be modded troll.

Gotta love the blind nationalism on /.

Re:Censorship? (2, Funny)

Fourier404 (1129107) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691741)

Yeah, just the other day I tried to go to http://asdlfjkas/ [asdlfjkas] and got redirected to google. It's time for a revolution!

We are not amused. (1)

copponex (13876) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691851)

Che "Che Guavara" Guavara
Chief Council
Association of Socialists Defending Life, Freedom, Justice, Knowledge, Alcohol, and Saxophones

(We really like jazz)

Re:Censorship? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692099)

You gave Google permission to do that when you installed Google add-on software like Toolbar or Desktop.

Re:Censorship? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692315)

Or, you know, Firefox

But, more importantly: Woosh!

Re:Censorship? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692185)

that's funny, i wish i could get that instead of road runner's 'suggestions' site

Re:Censorship? (1)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692403)

Set your router up with OpenDNS.

Re:Censorship? (2, Informative)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692539)

Except OpenDNS does the exact same thing, to their own "whoops" page.

Re:Censorship? (2, Insightful)

totally bogus dude (1040246) | more than 5 years ago | (#25693129)

Apparently you can opt out of that if you have an account. Not sure on the details as I've never used it.

Re:Censorship? (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691769)

Since when has the U.S. directed thepiratebay.org (or suprnova, or mininova, or demonoid, etc.) to google.com?

Re:Censorship? (2, Interesting)

erikina (1112587) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691791)

Since when has the U.S. directed thepiratebay.org (or suprnova, or mininova, or demonoid, etc.) to google.com?

They send you to jail instead?

Re:Censorship? (2, Interesting)

c_forq (924234) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691835)

Well not if you don't live in the U.S. Even if you do live there, I don't remember any recent file sharing cases ending in jail time. Fees that turn your life into indentured servitude maybe, but not jail.

Re:Censorship? (2, Informative)

MacDork (560499) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691859)

I don't remember any recent file sharing cases ending in jail time.

Wow... really? Let me refresh your memory. [usdoj.gov]

Re:Censorship? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691923)

Well not if you don't live in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew_Raymond_Griffiths [wikipedia.org]

Re:Censorship? (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691883)

Since when has the U.S. directed thepiratebay.org (or suprnova, or mininova, or demonoid, etc.) to google.com?

They send you to jail instead?

No, I think China has us beat there as well.

Re:Censorship? (4, Informative)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691827)

How about when a Judge in KY orders the domain names of companies to be transferred to the State of Kentucky. I don't mean just redirection the DNS lookup, but changing the ownership?

http://techdirt.com/articles/20081020/0058002578.shtml [techdirt.com]

Or when a judge in CA blocked wikileaks?

http://techdirt.com/articles/20080218/115934282.shtml [techdirt.com]

Re:Censorship? (3, Informative)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692013)

Since when has the U.S. directed thepiratebay.org (or suprnova, or mininova, or demonoid, etc.) to google.com?

Last I checked, they hijack the DNS and redirect to a Dept of Justice page or FBI warning.

remember isonews? elitetorrents? etc..

Re:Censorship? (3, Insightful)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692039)

Some ISPs are hijacking DNS, granted not to torrenting sites. Closest thing I can think

In America, the line between business and government is very fuzzy, especially with Big Content, Big Corn, and Haliburton.

Re:Censorship? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692067)

What about when Wikileaks was black holed because they hosted the Palin email leak?

Isn't that the single biggest example of censorship in the US internet history?

Is the US government supposed to black hole websites instead of using the court system?

Re:Censorship? (1)

erikina (1112587) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691771)

Point out that it's censorship in the US and prepare to be modded troll.

Are we talking of the same slashdot? Never mind, the US has probably filtered /. for you guys. Figures. (Now watch this not get modded troll ;D)

Re:Censorship? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692499)

No, as you see, I was modded Troll exactly like I said I would be. I've posted this sort of thread before with the exact same results. On slashdot:

  1. Oppressive draconian copyright laws are generally regarded as bad. Enforcement of those laws are generally regarded as bad. Everyone loves to rip on the RIAA.
  2. China is bad. They censor the media and only allow you to see what they want you to see.
  3. Point out that American copyright law is censorship, just achieved by different means but with the same end result, and YOU are bad. Mod -1 Troll.

Different means, same result. Point out the uncomfortable truth and you are a troll. That's blind nationalism plain and simple.

  • China made tankman disappear [pbs.org] by removing him from all distributed media. Kids in China today have never even heard of tank man.
  • "Eyes on the Prize" was buried for more than a decade [downhillbattle.org] by the American government. For every documentary like EOTP you hear about there are hundereds that were never made and thousands of reels of footage that are inaccessible because of copyright law.

Blind nationalism. Blind nationalism. Blind nationalism. The Germans were blind nationalists too. They sat back as their government abused, tortured, raped, murdered, and locked people up in concentration camps. They sat there like sheep and did nothing. They sat by passively and allowed the slaughter millions of people. [accuracy.org] The evidence was staring them right in the face, they watched their neighbors hauled off on cattle cars. They did nothing. They were despicable. Americans are despicable.

Re:Censorship? (1)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692767)

What you don't seem to understand is two basic mechanisms of Slashdot, so let me give you a refresher:

1. It takes one guy to mod you a troll and it takes either a careful meta moderation or another guy with mod points to think what you say has value in order to change that. Considering what you've said so far, I figure you adding something interesting to a conversation to be a rare event.

2. It only takes a few people to tag an article, which is why we often get tags that make no sense.

I'd like to also point out that most people see censorship as censorship, no matter what entity commits it.

By looking over what you've said, I've concluded that you're either an idiot or a troll. I think calling you a troll is being over optimistic, however.

Hijacked? (4, Insightful)

toxygen01 (901511) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691721)

Doesn't word hijack imply something else? More like hacked, took over, infiltrated? But use word like hijack for redirect is pretty ridiculous.

Re:Hijacked? (3, Interesting)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691739)

DRTFA, but I'm guessing that they are doing this at the DNS level. So yeah, they're not getting the use of their domain name within China back unless the PRC says so. If that is the case, I would call that a hijack.

Re:Hijacked? (1)

Merls the Sneaky (1031058) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691763)

To a non technical end user a browser hijack and a DNS redirect is essentially the same result.

Re:Hijacked? (5, Informative)

lysergic.acid (845423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691829)

in a word, no [wikipedia.org] . they're committing DNS hijacking on file sharing sites. instead of domain names resolving to the correct IP address, the DNS resolution is being hijacked to send users to a different host to whom the requested domain does not belong. that's why the articles call it "hijacking."

Re:Hijacked? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692707)

The US has been pressuring China about pirated software. Rather than crack down locally, they decide to "help out" by trying to shut down pirate sites. Gee, aren't they the good guys? ;-)

Re:Hijacked? (2, Insightful)

erikina (1112587) | more than 5 years ago | (#25693085)

..the DNS resolution is being hijacked to .."

They're hijacking the DNS, to redirect from the sites. "China hijacks site" deliberately leads people to believe that they've taken it over..

Re:Hijacked? Either way, they can say, (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692115)

"We Baid You, Fare Well"

Re:Hijacked? (1)

Matt Perry (793115) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692889)

But use word like hijack for redirect is pretty ridiculous.

Oh noes! China is gonna brick the intarwebs!

Has never worked for me.. (5, Informative)

SpineZ (84378) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691839)

I'm pretty sure that I've never been able to access piratebay from China. Even now, I don't even get redirected to Baidu. Nothing comes up in the browser at all. The "to"s below are timeouts *s that slashdot said I had too many junk characters ;)

tracert -d thepiratebay.org

Tracing route to thepiratebay.org [83.140.65.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 2 ms 1 ms 3 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 to to to Request timed out.
    3 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 221.224.243.169
    4 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 222.92.175.74
    5 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 202.97.27.110
    6 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 202.97.39.165
    7 9 ms 9 ms 14 ms 202.97.44.58
    8 to to to Request timed out.
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Bad Article (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692059)

In Beijing right now
The pirate bay hasn't worked from here for at least a year. Mininova and ISO hunt are still accessable. This would be roughly the tenth bogus article about China in the past few months. Why does slashdot bother posting rubish without checking their facts?

Flame bait
I am happy to see that the sheer number of bogus articles posted weekly about China has declined post olympics, Shock Horror!

Re:Bad Article (1)

magores (208594) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692391)

Also in Beijing right now.

I experience the same thing as parent.

Re:Has never worked for me.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25693093)

minor aside, some networks will block UDP/ICMP tracert, you can use hping [hping.org] instead, to trace via TCP (say, port 80)

similar was happening in 2007 (2, Informative)

itsthebin (725864) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691863)

I was in China for a while in 2007 and while I could search TPB I could not download the .torrent as it would just time out - similar to normal golden shield blocking

this was simply solved by putting the D/L url into my overseas proxy and from there the torrent client worked normally.

Funny.... (-1, Flamebait)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691869)

What would be really funny would be if some guys in China tried to do a DoS attack to TPB... and it would DoS the government's (in essence) servers.

Re:Funny.... (4, Insightful)

Duncan Blackthorne (1095849) | more than 5 years ago | (#25691919)

What would be really funny would be if some guys in China tried to do a DoS attack to TPB... and it would DoS the government's (in essence) servers.

Yeah, that would be really funny, how the Chinese government would come in the middle of the night, take them, their family, and likely anyone else that knew or cared about them, and drop them in a hole somewhere, never to be heard from again. Yeah, that's fucking hilarious.

Re:Funny.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692439)

It's not like they're actually REAL PEOPLE or anything. Tell me you've never crushed ant. Well, Chinese are pretty much like ants. Feel free to crush away!

Re:Funny.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692495)

Well, I'm kinda chuckling at that. This is the internet, what did you expect?

Re:Funny.... (1)

Duncan Blackthorne (1095849) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692607)

Well, I'm kinda chuckling at that. This is the internet, what did you expect?

I still keep holding on to the hope that there is actual intelligence out here in the wilds, but I'm continually disappointed. Guess that makes me a masochist..

Re:Funny.... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692631)

Okay, do you have any evidence, beyond hearsay, that this actually happens?

I hear about this kind of shit all the time (mostly in comments on Slashdot), but here I am in China, and I've never heard of anything like this happening.

Frankly, I think it's mostly hyperbolic bullshit. And it's increasing. Is it time for another red scare?

Re:Funny.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692885)

hahaha at all the pacificst around here

Re:Funny.... (1)

cavver (454509) | more than 5 years ago | (#25693005)

Your post is typical of the slashdot couch potato.
China is not like this - take it from a guy which was there.

Re:Funny.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25693023)

So all of a sudden we're supposed to feel bad for script kiddies?

Hijacked is such a strong word... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691889)

... but I think corruption, hostility, and theft are stronger words. I've heard time and time again that it's in "Chinese culture to copy" and that copyright and patent law is foreign to not only the country, but their ethics.

While we certainly don't lead a prime example of IP law, I believe China is simply trying to cheat their way to becoming a super power. When their actions do not coincide with what they claim, it is clear they cannot and SHOULD NOT be trusted.

If it's in Chinese Culture to copy, why take down BitTorrent websites? If this was a disciplinary action, how can we trust them when attempting to visit the blocked websites leads to a Chinese company? This is just another play at "cheating the system." It isn't a perfect system by any means, but it is the one the Western world has established and all successful countries adhere to.

Re:Hijacked is such a strong word... (1)

SnEptUne (1264814) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692299)

Well, what can you expect in a pure capitalistic country with little to no regulation? Social good be damned, as long as some rich folks can enjoy luxury without ever working.

Of course, you know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25691937)

THIS MEANS WAR!

Relax. It is a quote from Bugs Bunny. Still, rather appropriate, I think.

Attention Yankee Dogs! (1, Funny)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692025)

All your Bittorrent Base are belong to us!

You are on your way to Communism, take your time.

You have no choice, but to join us, hahahahahaahah!

We own your national debt, USA, 100 Trillion Dollars, now pay up or we won't give you back your BT sites. Your search engines Google and Yahoo and then megacorprations like Microsoft and IBM are next, muahahahaahahh!

Your Karate is no match for our Kung-Fu!

Attention Commie Bastards! (1)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692269)

Thank for helping us destroy those commie institutions.

You are on your way to a Capitalist Democracy, take your time.

You have no choice, but to join us, hahahahahahah!

Thanks for all the money which we used to buy all your plastic crap to make all our children happy. We have no intention of ever giving it back. Your financial institutions, China Contruction Bank, and Hangseng then mega-government institutions like the People's Liberation Army and the PRC itself are next, muahahahahahahh!

Your Shaolin Monks are no match for our Alabama rednecks!

Re:Attention Yankee Dogs! (1)

iNaya (1049686) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692857)

Why is this marked troll? Has humour no longer a place in our society?

Nope. It works now. (1)

oblivinated (1001921) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692077)

As of 12:16 PM, 11/09/2008, the sites are still working. Yes, in China. Shanghai specifically.

Has anyone noticed? (1)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692091)

Baidu is an anagram for I bad U

Translated to English vernacular, this roughly translates to I fuck you. Chinese is notoriously difficult to translate on the computer, so I hear.

Baidu has a nasty habit of being at the center of redirection issues. I wonder. Just wondering, mind you. Just how hard would it be to release a bit of a bot that spammed those bit torrent sites from inside the great firewall?

Yes, I understand the ramifications of such an activity, but I'm laughing so hard I can't stop thinking of how to accomplish it....

Anyone up for a bit of weekend fun?

=Ep?! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692113)

were nullified by for t4e record, I revel in our gay Playing so it's

Mininova, isoHunt and The Pirate Bay (0, Redundant)

cloneofsnake (821828) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692149)

Mininova, isoHunt and The Pirate Bay...

Now I know the 3 popular BitTorrent sites! Mwahahaha! L337!!

Baidu provider of copyrighted contents ? (1)

ProfMobius (1313701) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692307)

Isn't Baidu the search engine which was at the center of the polemic about directly linking to copyrighted contents ? If so, this is nice from the China gouvernement to directly give a great search engine to find illegal stuffs. Another thought is that, if you are looking for some 'illegal' stuffs on Baidu, you end up with results linked inside Baidu, resulting in an infinite loop of results, bringing down the whole China innertube. Hum ?

They're just starting a new film distribution sys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692365)

Any film ever made for a dollar including ones that haven't been released yet. All films with heads in the foreground and audience talking $0.50.

Is there a difference? This could just save time! (1)

vampire_baozi (1270720) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692377)

This is a blessing! The Chinese authorities have realized that Baidu and Gougou index torrents and pirated material for more effectively than TPB & co., and seek to save Chinese users the trouble of having to use them! Why bother going to TPB when Baidu has it earlier, faster, and in Chinese? Props to the firewall for this one!

Move along, nothing to see here.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25692489)

Please verify stuff before posting it.

- Pirate Bay has been blocked for over 6 months now, nothing new.
- Mininova works as usual, using it right now!
- isoHunt also works, just checked it for you.

Better check if you made some typo, in which case you'll indeed end up on Baidu and the likes.

Cue the portal sites in 3..2..1.. (1)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 5 years ago | (#25692939)

I remember there being a story about a site simply loading up wikipedia within its own little border.

Cue offshore domains which do exactly this in 3..2..1.

Isohunt HUH? (1)

NeuroManson (214835) | more than 5 years ago | (#25693079)

I've been able to access it just fine literally minutes ago. I keep my scripting off though, because a couple of months ago, a tainted ad server tossed a trojan into my stytem. It's been purged, and since I remembered to turn scripting off, it hasn't happened since.

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