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Good Deep-Knowledge Analog Design Books?

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the ice-blocks-the-cave-door dept.

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NorthNitro writes "I live in a part of the world where quality technical books are not accessible from local distributors. When I order, from international distributors, I have to keep exchange rate and shipping costs in mind; so I really need to be careful with my choices when purchasing books. I am a graduate engineer (5 years experience) that focuses on analog and digital hardware design. Next year I will be starting a complicated analog design project. This design will include circuits that integrating Pico amp currents, a lot of discrete transistor circuits and high precision op-amp circuits. I don't want a cookbook; I rather want something that can provide me with solid theoretical descriptions/models of circuits. The kind of knowledge that gives you deep understanding of analog circuits design. Can anyone suggest good books and maybe where to order them from?"

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65 comments

DOES NOT COMPUTE! (2, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#25822777)

Good Deep-Knowledge Analog Design Books?

I'm sorry, please ask your question in the form of: "(Useful) Stupid <topic> Tricks?"

Until then, I can't help you. Didn't you get the memo [google.com] ?

Sounds like system design (1)

DrLang21 (900992) | more than 5 years ago | (#25822951)

I think what you are looking for does not exist. You obviously already know a fair amount about analog circuit design if you have been in the field for 5 years dealing with them. It sounds to me more like you need something about system design. If you do not already have intimate knowledge with op amps, discrete transistor circuits, and problems associated with extremely low currents, then you will need to learn about each of these individually. The ability to develop a large and complex system is the mark of a very experienced, and knowledgeable engineer. Chances are that you will need to rely on the expertise of others to design the various sub-systems.

I know a great place for ordering things: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25822953)

The Internet.

Not a book, but hey... (-1, Flamebait)

djupedal (584558) | more than 5 years ago | (#25822973)

Rocky's Boots [wikipedia.org] comes to mind...

a couple of suggestions (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823077)

If you don't have Horowitz and Hill (The Art Of Electronics), you need it. It's surprisingly in depth for something that is ostensibly a primer, and covers useful techniques in many areas of the field, including micropower circuitry.

Other than that, I'm afraid that much of the information you want lies on the cutting edge of the field, and therefore industry is the best resource: datasheets, white papers, etc. You might also browse Artech House, which has a well-deserved reputation for publishing useful, if esoteric, technical books.

Re:a couple of suggestions (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823893)

Seconded.
My first thought was that it may be below him, but I've 9 years in the industry and still peek at it time to time.
He can have my copy 50% off (all pages present, very *very* warn) and I'll go pick up a new one...
-nB

A bit general (1)

shaka999 (335100) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823079)

Without more info its hard to give a good pointer. If you know the basics getting an IEEE account and searching for papers there is really the best approach. If your looking for a good general text I don't think you can go wrong with

CMOS Circuit Design, Layout, and Simulation, Second Edition (Hardcover)
by R. Jacob Baker (Author)

Best general Analog text book I've read.

University Library Access for Alumni (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25825021)

Without more info its hard to give a good pointer. If you know the basics getting an IEEE account and searching for papers there is really the best approach.

University libraries generally have subscriptions to IEEE journals and many others. Some of these libraries offer alumni yearly subscription access to library resources including all their journals for a nominal fee (for me it's $55). Bang-for-buck that's a much better option than joining the IEEE.

This is also a fairly good option if you have other problems with the IEEE. Despite being ostensibly international, the organisation still restricts membership rights to engineers in countries the US doesn't play nice with. Supporting the IEEE is supporting some of the worst parts of US foreign policy, including denying basic academic freedoms in countries that need them more than most to drag themselves out of the problems they have.

Re:A bit general (1)

HardCase (14757) | more than 5 years ago | (#25833325)

I'll second that. I graduated from Boise State University, where Jake Baker teaches. I was lucky enough to take a few classes from him before he became chair of the EE department. He's a hell of a professor and wrote some very good books. Appropo to nothing, he was in the Marines - the GI bill paid for his undergrad degree. You can definitely tell when you're around him.

The Art of Electronics (3, Informative)

Xolotl (675282) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823095)

With 5 years of experience you may well be familiar with it, but if not (and for anyone else)

The Art of Electronics [amazon.com]

by Horowitz and Hill was always the classic practical analog electronics text.

Re:The Art of Electronics (3, Funny)

bperkins (12056) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823675)

"I don't want a cookbook" is a code phrase that means, "I don't want to buy _The Art of Electronics_".

Re:The Art of Electronics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823821)

The Art of Electronics is not a deep knowledge book. It barely covers topics in an introductory circuits class. Good for the layman to learn though.

ARRL Handbook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25824179)

Try the ARRL Handbook too. The signal-to-noise ratio is off the scale! (Very condensed knowledge -- good for review.) Though it's more of a reference manual and focuses a lot on radio electronics.

http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?item=NO-HB2009#top
http://www.amazon.com/ARRL-Handbook-Radio-Communications-2009/dp/0872591395/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/178-4944870-1002452

Re:The Art of Electronics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25827327)

In the theme of "the art of...", I've found "The Art of Linear Electronics" by John Linsley Hood to be a wonderfully deep introduction to, well, linear electronics. It covers pretty much everything from high-level design considerations down to the low-level quantum mechanics of how tubes, transistors and other components work.

It's sadly out of print, but used copies aren't hard to find. ISBN 0 7506 0868 4.

Gray and Meyer, Razavi (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823121)

The standard texts in analog design are:

* Gray, Hurst, Lewis, and Meyer - Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits (http://tinyurl.com/6pk45f)
* Razavi - Design of Analog CMOS Integrated Circuits (http://tinyurl.com/66wzgt)

If you know more specifics about what you'll be designing (e.g., RF, very low power, ADC, filters, etc.) you can find more specific references for each area I'm sure. As for where to buy them, half.com is a great place to buy cheap books (e.g., international edition of Razavi will run around $30).

Re:Gray and Meyer, Razavi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25824849)

GHLM - this is a solid text.

A bit offtopic, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823227)

I cant help you with a book about what you need, but I can help you get cheaper books. Look at http://www.newagepublishers.com/ [newagepublishers.com] . They have a lot of good books about electronic engineering. They are VERY cheap. Just have caution with the delivery time (took 2 months to arrive from India to Brazil) and with the paper quallity (not very good, but usable).

You probably need to specify a bit... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823367)

I do not think you will find usefull infos in generic books.

You already know Maxwell, Ohms and all the other's laws (well, you should!), and probably have all kind of well-written references in class notes and books from you grad years.

Now, you need to specialize a bit.. "Analog" design is just "the non-binary part of a design". Even digital design needs to take analog effects in account (remember the eye diagram?).

So, what is your analog topic of interest? Closed-loop retroaction and characterisation?
RadioFrequencies amplifier and design?
Parasitics on PCB design?
Audio design?
Shielding and active counter-action?

Books, when at this level often tend to either have the name of your project on it, or will only give small introductory tips on your particular project.

Power Systems (1)

Ideally Nowhere (1384225) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823391)

I can't direct you to a particular book, but a good deal of analog circuit literature revolves around power systems so you may want to start your search there.

Here is one (1)

krog (25663) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823427)

I found Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits [amazon.com] (Gray/Hurst/Lewis/Meyer) to be a good book on deep-down transistor electronics. It is very theoretical, as you are looking for, and will support a strong understanding of analog transistor circuits.

I bought the "developing country" paperback edition for a lot less than $115 or whatever Amazon wants for the hardcover. Not a word is different.

Re:Here is one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25824939)

I used Gray/Hurst/Lewis/Meyer in my grad work also- as you said, its great for deeper transistor level stuff. It happily resides on my bookshelf at work, though I rarely grab it anymore.

I think he wants something inbetween Gray/Hurst/Lewis/Meyer and the Art of Electronics. H/H is not deep enough- every time I pull it open, it just barely scratches the surface, whereas G/H/L/M is deeper than snot. It goes through all kinds of basic amplifier blocks (FET and BJT), and the building blocks of op-amps and comparators.

I have another book I used in an analog circuit design class (EE433, University of Washington), that might be right in the middle- sadly, the book is at work and I can't remember the name- I don't do this crap at home anymore. Anyway, the text is perhaps the best example of real world meets theoretical. I love the book.

Good luck!

Analog Integrated Circuits (3, Informative)

Komi (89040) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823519)

Design of Analog CMOS Integrated Circuits
by Behzad Razavi
http://www.amazon.com/Design-Analog-CMOS-Integrated-Circuits/dp/0072380322 [amazon.com]

Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits
by by Paul R. Gray, Paul J. Hurst, Stephen H. Lewis, Robert G. Meyer
http://www.amazon.com/Analysis-Design-Analog-Integrated-Circuits/dp/0471321680 [amazon.com]

Analog Integrated Circuit Design
by David Johns, Ken Martin
http://www.amazon.com/Analog-Integrated-Circuit-Design-David/dp/0471144487 [amazon.com]

I have these three books. They're all for integrated circuit design, but they definitely give an in-depth coverage of analog design. They're pretty heavy in terms of material. You might be looking for something a bit broader in scope.

Re:Analog Integrated Circuits (1)

PsiCTO (442262) | more than 5 years ago | (#25832037)

Definitely 3 of the books I'd recommend. As per another poster, if you don't have a solid base book like Sedra and Smith, look for it. Millman and Halkias is dated, but still relevant IMHO. The new edition is probably what you want, but I've not yet seen it.

http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/0070634556/information_center_view0/ [mcgraw-hill.com]

Don't overlook noise. I started with Howard Johnson's "Black Magic" book, but there are definitely better books out there. For exampele,

http://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Circuit-Integrity-Microwave-Library/dp/1580531318/ref=pd_sim_b_4 [amazon.com]

My take on this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823585)

No such one book. I have a collection of old and new books. The MIT Rad Lab series is invaluable, if you can find the entire series it's worth it. But even one or two volumes of interest are good.
Then there's the entire set of design app notes from Linear Tech.

To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (5, Informative)

stewbee (1019450) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823631)

I am not trying to troll here, but Horowitz and Hill does not sound like what he is looking for. This is circuit design light. It vaguely describes circuits, however I will admit there are a bunch of circuit ideas with cook book solutions (or circuit ideas, as the book puts it) but I found them never to be described enough to my liking. Even more of a pet peeve of mine about this book is that it gives drawings of 'bad' circuit ideas. In most cases it is obvious why one of these circuits won't work, but others are not as obvious. The thing is, it never explains why they are bad. If you are trying to learn analog circuitry, it is almost as important to know why something won't work as to why it will. I almost feel people suggest this book if they are not EE's but it makes you sound knowledgeable. (full disclaimer: I am an RF design EE ) </rant>

I will agree with one poster who suggested Grey, Hurst, Meyer, and Lewis called "Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits" (and I own), with the disclaimer that it is geared for IC design. With that said, it does a good job of teaching analog circuits.

Re:To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (1)

Xolotl (675282) | more than 5 years ago | (#25824095)

As one of the people who suggested H&H, I didn't do it 'to sound knowledgeable', but because I do consider it a useful book for practical analog design. Also I don't think of it as a cookbook, I always thought it too vague for what I would consider 'a cookbook' (i.e. a book of recipes to follow), but that is perhaps a matter of taste.

Still, you may be right that it is not an EE book, I'm a physicist and admittedly haven't had to do electronics design for years now. I'm sure Grey et al. is also a good book.

Re:To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 5 years ago | (#25824621)

I think that, while you are right in your criticisms, it is still a useful book to have on the shelf. I still refer to mine now and then, though admittedly less so each passing year.
-nB

Re:To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (1)

backwardMechanic (959818) | more than 5 years ago | (#25826059)

Your comments are interesting. I too am a physicist, and have made good use of H&H. I think the style of H&H is much more 'read the chapter, understand the basic ideas, go out and design stuff' and less 'here is a design model, plug in your parameters'. We don't suggest it just to sound knowledgable, but because it fits well with a physics style of thinking. Apparently it jars with an engineers thought patterns.

But I'd agree, it sounds like the original questioner knows about H&H (whether he likes it or not) and is looking for something with a bit more depth - I hard question to answer without a bit more information. Where are we going? High/low frequency? Low noise? Low power? ...

Re:To everyone who thinks H & H is a good book (1)

PersonOfInterest (874701) | more than 5 years ago | (#25834565)

As soon as I read the question I knew that H&H would be quickly recommended. There is nothing wrong with H&H as an introductory text but the OP identified himself as a degreed engineer with 5 years experience. He is well beyond H&H and "The ARRL Handbook." As other engineers have, I recommend: "Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits" Gray, Hurst I also learned a lot from: "High Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic" Johnson, Graham Although it says "Digital" in the title, at high speeds everything is analog design.

Some favorites on my shelf (4, Informative)

John Miles (108215) | more than 5 years ago | (#25823717)

Jim Williams' first book [amazon.com]
Jim Williams' second book [amazon.com]
Bob Pease's book [amazon.com]
Hans Camenzind's book [amazon.com] (an especially-cool book by the designer of the original 555)

Re:Some favorites on my shelf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25826241)

FYI: Hans Camenzind's book is free to download from his webpage

http://www.designinganalogchips.com/_count/designinganalogchips.pdf

Re:Some favorites on my shelf (1)

Swan1 (1386663) | more than 5 years ago | (#25826273)

I second the books John suggests, and would add: High Speed Digital Design: A handbook of Black magic by Howard Johnson and Martin Graham.

Re:Some favorites on my shelf (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25828145)

Hans Camenzind has made his book available for download: http://www.designinganalogchips.com/ [designinganalogchips.com] . I'm at best a novice when it comes to analog circuits, but the book was fascinating. This was the guy who gave us the 555 -- a design masterpiece according to 9 out of 10 chip nerds.

Analog Circuit Design - Williams, 1991 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25823755)

Analog Circuit Design - Art, Science and Personalities (Williams, 1991)
http://www.amazon.com/Analog-Circuit-Design-Personalities-Engineers/dp/0750696400/

A great book for getting more insight on designing real systems - light on analysis (Amazon lists a companion book with more technical stuff - haven't read that one) but shows some of the real-world problems faced by designers. The chapter on Digiphase may be particularly interesting, as it is a high-precision system (in frequency, rather than current) with lots of trade-offs.

More detail would be useful (3, Interesting)

hardie (716254) | more than 5 years ago | (#25824229)

I think more detail would help recommendations. I don't have a copy of H&H, but a good number of folk I know like it. I have a copy of Gray and Meyer, which I use a lot (but my copy is 30 years old, I imagine it has had a lot added to it). I'm very fond of Operational Amplifiers by J.K. Roberge. It is not in print, but there are used copies out there. I'm not aware of any really excellent books on discrete transistor level analog design.

You didn't mention this, but there is a really good (i.e. practical) book on grounding and shielding:
Grounding and Shielding Techniques in Instrumentation by Ralph Morrison

I strongly recommend spending as much time at the bench as you can, building and measuring your circuits. If you want to get good at it, hands-on experience is crucial.

Steve

Essential digital book that covers analog effects. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25824551)

High Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic (Hardcover) by Howard Johnson, Martin Graham

Check Analog Devices literature (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25824765)

Analog Devices has compendiums of appnotes and tutorials. I'm looking at the following on my shelf:
Systems Application Guide
OpAmp Applications Seminar
Power and Thermal Management
The Best of Analog Dialog 67' to 91'
Ask The Apllications Engineer

Natsemi's Analog Signal Path Design Seminar

GHLM is a good textbook but contains nothing on actual implementation.

Microelectronic Circuit Design (1)

Nashirak (533418) | more than 5 years ago | (#25825013)

This was the book that we used @ Auburn for our Analog design courses. Its a good book with a LOT of theory: Microelectronic Circuit Design [google.com]

Here's my suggestion (3, Informative)

dpaton.net (199423) | more than 5 years ago | (#25825155)

Analog Integrated Circuit Applications [amazon.com]

Prof. Jacob is wonderfully knowledgeable on the subject, and his teaching style is easy to follow. Additionally, his book covers a lot more than just the ICs in the title.

Sergio Franco's op-amp book is great (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25825191)

"Design with Operational Amplifiers and Analog Integrated Circuits"

There's a preview on his site:

http://online.sfsu.edu/~sfranco/Books.html

Book I use (3, Informative)

usul294 (1163169) | more than 5 years ago | (#25825229)

I'm an undergraduate electrical engineer here in the states, I'm on my 2nd analog design course at this point, and both times we have used Microelectronic Circuits by Sedra/Smith. The book covers op-amps, diodes,MOSFET's, BJT's, JFET's, amplifier designs, feedback control, ADC/DAC and CMOS as its basic topics. Some final sections on Memory and fancy digital circuits, filters and tuned amplifiers, signal generators and waveform shaping circuits, and finally output stages and amplifiers. There is, however, nothing on phase-locked loops but a quick google search on those has some very useful material. If you are looking for something more signal processing oriented, Lathi's Signal Processing and Linear Systems is a great book that covers the basics of everything I've ever heard of in analog signal processing. If I knew more of what your project was I could suggest something more specific to that field, but those two books cover the core analog electrical engineering concepts except for the very introductory circuit theory (Kirchoff, Ohm's Law, phasors)

Re:Book I use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25828655)

Sedra and Smith is still being used today, well I'll be darned. Way back in the mid 1980's I used will taking my undergraduate degree in electrical engineering as well. I still have a copy, though I haven't looked at it years.

Re:Book I use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25831471)

I agree with usul294 Microelectronic Circuits is quite good. I use it as well. But being an anonymous coward who cares what i think

It's all approximations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25825269)

As has been noted you've been a bit too vague.

I've got most of the books suggested and for a variety of reasons like them all. H & H is good for helping you figure out how to get out when you find yourself in a hole.

To properly answer your question you need to specify the following:

signal level and spectrum

noise level and spectrum

accuracy and S/(S+N) requirement

Everything is just an approximation to reality and there are lots of approximations. The real key is choosing the appropriate approximation.

rhb

From Montana State: (1)

movercast (1037472) | more than 5 years ago | (#25825431)

I used Sedra and Smith's Microelectronic Circuits text [barnesandnoble.com] during my undergrad and found it to be an excellent reference. It has a good balance of theory and real circuits.

Answer from Analog Engineeer (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25825501)

Most of the books mentioned so far are better for HAM radio fanatics. As an Analog Engineer, here are my favorite books:

'Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits' Gray, Hurst
This is one of the best well-rounded books and is a must-have for any analog engineer.

Based on the description, I assume you're not working in CMOS, but if you are: 'CMOS Analog Circuit Design' Allen, Holberg

Another book I use on occasion is 'Analog Integrated Circuit Design' Johns, Martin
This is an OK book, but I prefer Gray, Hurst.

You may be interested in learning about device physics for your project. In this case, Streetman is a good author.

Books previously listed are rather elementary (e.g. Jaeger / Sedra Smith) and will not help with such an advanced design project. The Art of Electronics is a terrible book for what you are trying to do. It is elementary, written by a physicist, and extremely old. I recommend The Art of Electronics to scientists who only need a good background in the subject.

 

Re:Answer from Analog Engineeer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25828069)

Based on his description - "This design will include circuits that integrating Pico amp currents, a lot of discrete transistor circuits and high precision op-amp circuits" - he isn't interested in IC design at all!

(but those are all good books)

This is the book you need sir... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25825511)

Analysis and Design of Analog Integrated Circuits 4th edition.
Gray, Hurst, Lewis Meyer

Tieze and Schenk (1)

gweihir (88907) | more than 5 years ago | (#25826409)

"Electronic Circuits: Handbook for Design and Application". The original is german and very good. It does not cover really, really exotic things, but for basic and deeper concepts it is the reference. It has a strong focus of telling you what is important and what not, providind theoretical models for everything and even listing sample ICs and commenting on them. It is possible that it is still to basic for your needs, but there may not be a book that really covers what you need.

femto amperes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25827785)

I just showed our analog engineer this message, he laughed and said, "There are no good books, it all comes from experience". He currently designs analog circuits that integrate femto amperes with a voltage to frequency circuit branched off of a current mirror. He does not need to buy $75 dollar op-amps, just inexpensive analog components.

App notes and IC vendor texts... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25827995)

Since your focus seems to be on discrete stuff rather than IC design, and since you've probably already got a load of text books from college, I'd suggest including books and application notes published by IC vendors in your search. Analog devices has quite a few of these titles, many freely available in electronic format:

Analog Dialogue is great:
http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/

Some ADI books:
http://www.analog.com/en/content/cu_td_technical_bookstore/fca.html

A good online op-amp book:
http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/39-05/op_amp_applications_handbook.html

Don't miss the Potpourri (lots of online texts and great classic app notes):
http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/pot/potpourri.html

Especially articles like this one:
http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/application_notes/500824934643930414583807523874018494695982855668424783486554001060AN348.pdf

Good luck!

Anonymous Coward. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25828137)

Some more: Mix of circuit design and device info.

1.CMOS Analog Circuit Design
by Phillip E. Allen , Douglas R. Holberg (Author), Allen . Esp. good for CMOS.

2.Analog MOS Integrated Circuits, I,II (Ieee Press Selected Reprint Series) (Paperback)
by Paul R. Gray (Editor), Bruce A. Wooley (Editor), Robert W. Brodersen (Editor)

3.Analog MOS Integrated Circuits for Signal Processing (Hardcover)
by Roubik Gregorian (Author), Gabor C. Temes (Author)

4.Operation and Modeling of the MOS Transistor
by Yannis Tsividis (Author)

5.Fundamentals of Modern VLSI Devices
by Yuan Taur (Author), Tak H. Ning (Author)

Others: look thru ADI/National/Intersil data sheets for ckt configurations used.

Data Books. (1)

myspace-cn (1094627) | more than 5 years ago | (#25828579)

Head on over to Motorola, and get a set of databooks. Head on over to Analog Devices pick up a set of databooks. Head on over to (insert your favorite company) pick up a set of databooks. Head on down to your local sunday market, hang around the electronics types, look through their boxes, and buy up all their databooks. Head on down to used bookstores, buy up their used databooks.

Repeat.
Repeat.

Before you know it you'll not only know Analog, you'll know digital, power, discrete, mosfet, thermisters, instrumentation, audio, dsp, uP's, more truth tables than you can shake a stick at.

But then you'll be needing parts..

Head on down to the local flee markets again, buy up all the electronics, buy up the best soldering gun you can afford, buy a few propane torches, and then get to desoldering. You can do some boards all at once, heat one side and bang it on the floor the chips will drop off. If you smoke, quit, if you do drugs quit, also try to do this desoldering outside not inside. You'll learn you need chip pullers and other small tools. Many tools you will make yourself.

Styrofoam pads can be used to store your chip sets when they are not on breadboard.

You'll eventually get to the point where your whole home is nothing but electronics. And you rarely need to by parts except weird analog shit.

Also some of these manufactures put out publications in addition to their data books, grab those up too.

The good news is you will be able to fix anything after all this. The bad news is if you smoked you won't feel well.

Re:Data Books. (1)

myspace-cn (1094627) | more than 5 years ago | (#25828627)

I also forgot ya need some fundamentals.

Grob
Malvino
Floyd

Bob Pease (2, Informative)

ka9dgx (72702) | more than 5 years ago | (#25828661)

Find and read everything you can written by Bob Pease. You'll be entertained and enlightened.

Re:Bob Pease (1)

Almost-Retired (637760) | more than 5 years ago | (#25828809)

I was wondering when someone would get around to mentioning Bob Pease. He used to do a column in the old McGraw-Hill 'Electronics' IIRC. This man understand analog better than almost anyone on the planet. If his columns have ever been compiled into a book, or he has written a book on Analog, that would be easily the most worn book on my shelves here. He was for many years, THE analog guru at National Semi. Hit your bookstore and have them do a search for his name. Something useful and entertaining has got to fall out.

--
Cheers, Gene

Re:Bob Pease (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25831833)

What's all this Pease Stuff, anyway? :-)

Re:Bob Pease (2, Funny)

HardCase (14757) | more than 5 years ago | (#25833273)

All we are saying is give Pease a chance.

The Art of Electronics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25829151)

Well, from what you are telling you will build measurement instrumentation (photodiodes? quantum dots? sensitive CCDs?). I am a physicist and have designed some comparatatively low-precision ciruits (10s to 1000s of nA, 100s to 10000s of nV, 10s to 10000s of kHz). If you can afford the comfort to use integrated components, i found for this usually the application notes of the manufacturer a good starting point, especially the footnotes (like: use teflon, dont touch with your fingers, wash the board after soldering etc in xzy...). I remember there was a good guide from Keithley to low noise measurements in general. Since you seem to be advanced i probably dont need to tell you about "The Art of Electronics", which was written also by a physicist AFAIR, the chapter on low noise measurements is short, but concise and, as usual does not propagate "laboratory noise superstition".

some suggestions (1)

scatterbrained (144748) | more than 5 years ago | (#25829247)

"Noise Reduction Techniques in Electronic Systems" by Henry Ott.

I've heard "Transistor Circuit Approximations" by Malvino is good. I don't have it, but I liked his style in some other books.

I've also heard the "GE transistor handbook" from days of yore has good stuff in it.

(Searching on that gave a link to an e-bay auction of 8 dvds of scanned old books, which looked like a treasure trove of good stuff. not my auction, no connection to it)

I would second a thumbs up for "Handbook of Digital Black Magic" by Johnson and Graham. Not exactly what you wanted, but a good book.

"Art of Electronics" is an OK book, but very broad, and doesn't seem to fit with your request.

Some Good PDF Op-Amp References (1)

arkarumba (763047) | more than 5 years ago | (#25831311)

Last year I did a course "Electronic Measurement" at USQ which dealt a lot with EMC compatability, PCB layout, noise resistance, etc - a lot of really non-obvious stuff until you read it.

From this I've ended up with bundle of very enlightning PDFs, some of which I'll list below. I'm not sure if these are what you are looking for, but they certainly match your price range. I recommend anyone every using an op-amp read at least the first one, which I found quite amazing - for illustrating the different return paths AC and DC take across a PCB. In general, search the application notes of the device maufacturers - particular Analog Devices.

+ AN-345 Grounding for Low-and-High-Frequency Circuits.pdf
+ EMI and Layout Fundamentals for Switched-Mode Circuits R.W. Erickson.pdf
+ AN202 An IC Amplifier Userâ(TM)s Guide to Decoupling, Grounding, and Making Things Go Right for a Change.pdf
+ A Designer's Guide to Instrumentation Amplifiers 3rd Edition (Kitchin & Counts, Analog Devices 2006).pdf
+ Reducing RFI Rectification Errors in In-Amp Circuits (Analog Devices AN-671).pdf
+ Op Amps For Everyone - Design Reference (Ron Mancini, Texas Instruments 2002).pdf
+ Analog Dialogue vol39n3.pdf
+ The Instrumentation Amplifier Handbook (Neil Albaugh, Burr Brown Corporation).pdf
+ Shielding and Guarding (Alan Rich, The Best of Analog Dialogue 1983).pdf
+ Errors and Error Budget Analysis in Instrumentation Amplifier Applications (Analog Devices AN-539).pdf
+ PCB Design Tutorial RevA (David L. Jones, 2004).pdf

If you can't find them yourself, I could upload them (if someone could provide a simple service to deposit them at.)

Re:Some Good PDF Op-Amp References (1)

John Miles (108215) | more than 5 years ago | (#25854721)

I agree, it'd be a good idea to have all of those app notes in one place. You might zip them up into one archive file and upload it to the "Manuals" link at http://www.ko4bb.com/ [ko4bb.com] . (Various people have been stashing EPROM images, useful emails, spreadsheets, and other resources in that directory, not just manuals.)

ARRL Handbook (1)

Cableless (83023) | more than 5 years ago | (#25834007)

I always found the ARRL Handbooks to be great refreshers for electronic theory. Although the intended audience is obviously the amateur radio community, these books are a great resource for anyone interested in electronics. Save some money and don't buy the latest greatest edition.

ARRL Handbook [amazon.com]

Courses? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25834273)

I'd recommend starting off by going through a couple of online courses for a start. Here's one:
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978189

Also, a lot of online courses by Philip Allen (co-author of CMOS Analog Circuit Design - an excellent book) is available at www.aicdesign.org. A huge amount of slides containing a lot of material from the book can be found there and is a great resource.

Perhaps Check Online College Course Materials (1)

kuma (98937) | more than 5 years ago | (#25835107)

Cookbooks can be trouble because without insight into the advantages and vulnerabilities of a circuit, it might simply fail.

In radio frequency work, we often added variable attenuators in the signal path, to allow tuning. To know the attenuator range though, required creating a spreadsheet to track worst case signal levels forward and backward to the attenuators.

"The kind of knowledge that gives you deep understanding of analog circuits design. Can anyone suggest good books and maybe where to order them from?"

Many of these sources are going to be focused on integrated circuit design, but they are still great sources when combined with course notes.

You should be able to find course notes online from MIT or other universities. Universities have been videotaping professors for more than 20 years. Textbooks are terse. It is amazing to watch someone like Anton Mavretic casually calculate impedance and gain for various circuits.

Aside from the text suggestions here, you might find good references in online course descriptions and class notes.

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