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On the other hand... (-1, Offtopic)

wild_quinine (998562) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900627)

...so is suicide.

Re:On the other hand... (5, Informative)

unixcrab (1080985) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900799)

An urban legend my good man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate [wikipedia.org]

Re:On the other hand... (1, Funny)

Loibisch (964797) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900865)

Thank god...at first I thought those values in those columns were percent. double-digits suicide rates would be sick...

Re:On the other hand... (1)

joshtheitguy (1205998) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901315)

What surprises me is with the whole Emo pop culture trend of this decade the US isn't at the top of the list.

Re:On the other hand... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900953)

Odd how China is the only country with a higher female suicide rate.

Re:On the other hand... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901413)

Odd how China is the only country with a higher female suicide rate.

Perhaps they really don't see "little, yellow, different" as being worth living for?

(/tongue in cheek reference to chinese male genitalia)

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Which one though? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900637)

I just don't understand, which one, EA Sports or Pro Evolution Soccer?

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If you mod me as off topic you just didn't get it

Seen it coming (1)

tripdizzle (1386273) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900645)

Cant get to the article from work, but is there anyone out there that has not seen this coming?? Anyone can pick up a controller and play a game, where it actually takes some time and effort to learn to skate.

Re:Seen it coming (1, Flamebait)

tripdizzle (1386273) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900683)

And for the football reference, are they referring to actual football, or soccer??

Re:Seen it coming (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900765)

They are referring to actual football a.k.a. soccer.

There is also a wimpy other side of the atlantic "sport" called "american football" which just is a bad copy of rugby (which is much more brutal than american football since you dont wear any wimpy padding). Though, you are not actually kicking on the ball with your feet in american football, so why it is called football no one actually knows.

Re:Seen it coming (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900805)

each half and after each touchdown starts with a kick-off, being kicked with a foot, hence the name football. Soccer is called soccer because they all just stand around socking the ball with their foot back an forth. Rugby gets its name because it is as entertaining as receiving a rugburn.

Re:Seen it coming (3, Funny)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901205)

Rugby gets its name because it is as entertaining as receiving a rugburn.

Well, you know, a lot of the common ways one might receive a rug burn are well worth it...

Re:Seen it coming (2, Insightful)

Hardhead_7 (987030) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900911)

I know it's popular to hate on American football because it's American, but the types of hits and tackles legal in the NFL would mean half a rugby team would be paralyzed by the end of the season.

Add to that, the plays of the NFL are much more intricate... the NFL is more of a tactical contest between coaches than probably any other professional sport.

Re:Seen it coming (4, Insightful)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901053)

I know it's popular to hate on American football because it's American

I don't hate it because it's American, I hate it because it's boring. I actually tried watching it for a while and I found that it consists mostly of commercials, with short bursts of football in between. If they would just get on with playing instead of having constant advertisement filled breaks it might be more interesting.

Re:Seen it coming (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901085)

Watch a college game sometime (Penn State!).

They move along quite rapidly.

Re:Seen it coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901147)

Especially if they're playing Iowa...

Oh snap *

Re:Seen it coming (1)

polar red (215081) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901093)

they tried(when the world cup was in the us) to cripple soccer in the same way : 4 quarters in stead of 2 halves.

Re:Seen it coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901115)

So your problem is more with American tv than football.

Re:Seen it coming (1)

guga31bb (841932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901125)

Oops I misclicked so I'm replying to clear my Redundant mod. I am American and couldn't agree more - the ratio of action to commercials is disturbingly low. It becomes even more apparent when going to a game - every few plays all the players go head to the sidelines and stand around, waiting for commercials to end. If I were a player, that would drive me crazy!

Re:Seen it coming (4, Interesting)

DeadManCoding (961283) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901083)

One answer... Bwahahahah!!! Half a rugby team paralyzed? That's seriously a joke. NFL players are over-pampered, overpaid wimps compared to the rest of the world. It's one of the few sports that somehow manages to encourage overweight athletes. Take a look at those guts and tell me again that they're in shape.

And yes, I am American, I played actual football, aka soccer. It has just as much physical contact, significantly more demanding on the body, and requires a huge amount of stamina. Do me a favor, go run for 45 minutes, take a 10 minute, and run for another 45 minutes. I'd love to see those NFL athletes have heart attacks over that one...

Re:Seen it coming (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901113)

I'd love to see any soccer player (even in pads) take a hit from an NFL player and get up.

Oh, wait... he'd fall over if someone even ran close to him.

Different skill sets, bud. NFL players are built for power and quick speed, soccer players are built for stamina. You take either out of their element, and they'll falter.

Re:Seen it coming (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901207)

Don't mix football with the american version of football that's more a sub-division of rugby.

Re:Seen it coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901415)

I'd love to see any soccer player (even in pads) take a hit from an NFL player and get up.

Oh, wait... he'd fall over if someone even ran close to him.

Different skill sets, bud. NFL players are built for power and quick speed, soccer players are built for stamina. You take either out of their element, and they'll falter.

"NFL players are built for power and quick speed,"
that's because 90% of them have spent their whole life running from the police.
National Felons League...

Re:Seen it coming (1)

sqldr (838964) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901155)

Do me a favor, go run for 45 minutes, take a 10 minute, and run for another 45 minutes. I'd love to see those NFL athletes have heart attacks over that one...

Plus diving legs-first (rather than shoulders/padding) into a high-speed tackle whilst actually trying to get a ball... cause, you know, sometimes this happens: ouch

Re:Seen it coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901383)

NFL players are over-pampered, overpaid wimps...

just the quarterbacks. cant take a hit without someone getting fined for it.

...compared to the rest of the world

i agree, nfl players are pretty wimpy compared to some starving children in some 3rd world country. miss a meal everyone once in a while you wimps

Re:Seen it coming (2, Interesting)

fastest fascist (1086001) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901405)

Having high bodyfat does not necessarily translate to being out of shape. In most cases "fat" people are also in poor physical condition, but not always. I do crossfit-like training, and there's a guy at the training house I go to who has a distinct pot belly and will regularly outperform about 80% of the people who go there at just about any kind of exercise, whether it's heavy lifting or the brutal anaerobic endurance workouts we do. And it's not because the rest of the folks are all in crappy shape, either.

Re:Seen it coming (4, Insightful)

Cornflake917 (515940) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901227)

I know it's popular to hate on American football because it's American, but the types of hits and tackles legal in the NFL would mean half a rugby team would be paralyzed by the end of the season

I'm gonna have to call bull shit on that one. I have sneaking suspicion you never actually watched a professional rugby game before. There is little difference between the severity of the hits and tackles. In fact, I definitely see more blood and injuries with rugby. Also, the play doesn't always end when you get hit/tackled and rugby. American football players generally get a good 20 second rest. American football is pretty much rugby with much more resting.

Re:Seen it coming (2, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901435)

American football is pretty much rugby with much more resting

Watching American football and baseball always leaves me with the feeling that popular American sports are designed around frequent advert breaks.

Re:Seen it coming (4, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901285)

IAAARP (I am a American Rugby Player)

Rugby tackles can be just as hard however they typically aren't, why?
1) After a rugby tackle there isn't a whistle. There isn't a TV Time Out or a play clock. You either have to pick, ruck, or roll
2) There is no padding. NFL Players constantly use their padding as armor or a weapon. It's like saying I can hit people harder with a baseball bat than with my fist. No shit, there's less possibility of self damage with the baseball bat.

And your argument of "tactical contest between coaches" makes it sound more like a mindless game of chess. (Which I'm not arguing that it's not). Every single rugby player has to be able to make split second decisions and see the entire field.

Third, the type of game that Rugby is would leave most NFL players on the sidelines gasping for air.
1) NFL games are split up between 2 teams (Offense and Defense) that rotate out roughly every 4 plays. Rugby usually has 1-2 subs at most. Meaning all 15 players per team are on the field during the entire match.
2) NFL regulation matches are 4 quarters-15 minutes long. However this is usually spread out over 3ish hours. Rugby is 80 minutes spread out over roughly 90 minutes. (10 minute halftime).

Finally, I suggest you watch some stuff on youtube. There are plays and combinations that make the NFL look like tic-tac-toe.

You'll teach a bunch of Rugby players to play American Football much easier than vice versa.

Re:Seen it coming (3, Interesting)

sa1lnr (669048) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901481)

How many American Football players would be in the same position without their armour?

Re:Seen it coming (5, Insightful)

Endo13 (1000782) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900925)

If you actually knew any history about football, you would know that the "foot" in "football" has absolutely zero to do with kicking. It has to do with the fact that it's played on foot, as opposed to other historical games that were played on horseback. Football's origins go back much further than any other modern sport (possibly as far as the last century BC), hence why the term "football" still applies, even though under the original broad definition, basketball and baseball would also qualify. Neither Soccer nor American Football is close to how "real" football was originally played in most places, that honor goes to Rugby. (Although both Soccer and American Football do have roots going back for enough, it's impossible to say *for sure* that there weren't certain places that played with similar rules. Rugby just most closely resembles the most popular form of the game.) The only significant thing American Football added that wasn't there since the beginning is downs, and a turnover or punt due to not being able to gain a certain amount of yards in a certain amount of downs (first put into place in 1882). Soccer changed the game altogether. Yes, American Football is just as close or closer to how the game was originally played than Soccer is.

Re:Seen it coming (1)

viper34j (1401493) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901307)

If you actually knew any history about football, you would know that the "foot" in "football" has absolutely zero to do with kicking. It has to do with the fact that it's played on foot, as opposed to other historical games that were played on horseback. Football's origins go back much further than any other modern sport (possibly as far as the last century BC), hence why the term "football" still applies, even though under the original broad definition, basketball and baseball would also qualify. Neither Soccer nor American Football is close to how "real" football was originally played in most places, that honor goes to Rugby. (Although both Soccer and American Football do have roots going back for enough, it's impossible to say *for sure* that there weren't certain places that played with similar rules. Rugby just most closely resembles the most popular form of the game.) The only significant thing American Football added that wasn't there since the beginning is downs, and a turnover or punt due to not being able to gain a certain amount of yards in a certain amount of downs (first put into place in 1882). Soccer changed the game altogether. Yes, American Football is just as close or closer to how the game was originally played than Soccer is.

How does Australian Rules Football play into this? I've seen a few games and it just looks like a 36-man version of smear-the-queer...

Re:Seen it coming (1)

Endo13 (1000782) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901441)

Reading up on it just now, Australian Rules Football also has its roots in the same big hodgepodge that comprised "football" before various regions started making official rule-sets. (Or in other words, it doesn't come from Soccer, American Football, Rugby, etc.) It's also probably closer to how football was originally played in most places than Soccer and American Football.

Re:Seen it coming (2, Informative)

xorsyst (1279232) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901149)

Try playing both Rugby and American football and then comment. They are both physically tough, but in different ways. As for the padding, that is mostly aggressive. It allows you to hit (and be hit) harder. To say one is a wimpy form of the other is, well, flamebait.

Re:Seen it coming (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900815)

Any mention of 'football' outside the US means proper football i.e. soccer. Noticing the report came from Sweden should have indicated which to most people i.e. not Americans who probably think Sweden is where re-made home videos come from.

Ironically most people think that soccer is an American term to refer to football, whereas it actually comes from the phrase 'association football'.

Re:Seen it coming (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900941)

In what way does it come from the phrase 'association football'?!

Re:Seen it coming (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901117)

I thought Sweden was where all the cute blondes come from.

Re:Seen it coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901257)

Where did you come from where did you go
Where did you come from Cotton-Eye Joe

They're catching up. (4, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900663)

Nice to see we have some friendly competition for the coveted "Most Hours Spent Sitting on Our Arse" award. *looks around* Hmm. Why are all these people looking at me like I just ran over their dog? And at least four of them have pitchforks.

Well, I'm going for a walk!

*backs away slowly*

Re:They're catching up. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900779)

Lol dyke

Re:They're catching up. (4, Interesting)

postbigbang (761081) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901079)

Computer games are an indoor sport. That it would be popular in areas that get mightily cold in winter is no surprise.

By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (1)

stardaemon (834177) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900693)

Still, not to surprising, since it's a lot easier to sit down in front of the pc or the console of you're choice and just play a game.

Re:By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (1)

Lord Lode (1290856) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900827)

No, it's really football. You play the ball with the foot, all the time. Unlike American football, where they rarely ever touch it with the foot.

Re:By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (0, Flamebait)

Hardhead_7 (987030) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900959)

This is an American site. It uses American English. It's called consistency.

Re:By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (2, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900961)

You should watch the Lions. The ball gets touched by a foot approximately every 3 plays.

Working out why this is so requires only a rudimentary knowledge of the rules of American football and the Lions record: 0-11.

Re:By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (2, Informative)

Endo13 (1000782) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900977)

You play the ball with the foot, all the time.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with why it's called football.

Re:By football here, the ofc mean soccer;) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901165)

Reference being:
'...there is a rival explanation, which has it that football originally referred to a variety of games in medieval Europe, which were played on foot.[1] These games were usually played by peasants...'

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football

The idea being that the reference to foot is not that the game is played via foot contact with the ball but that it revolves around movement in the field via foot (rather than hoofing it on horseback, for instance).

Mod up Anon!
Maybe one day I'll get a /. account ;)

It's easy to understand why (5, Funny)

MaxwellEdison (1368785) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900713)

...bigger than football and hockey combined.

It's easy to understand why. Have you ever tried kicking a football on skates?

Re:It's easy to understand why (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900867)

Yes, but that doesn't explain why lacrosse isn't more popular.

Re:It's easy to understand why (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900875)

NSFW TGP:

http://mrfriendly.110mb.com/

Nerdcore uprising (4, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900721)

Is the day far when nerds and geeks will rule the high schools, bullying and terrorizing the jocks and athletes?

Re:Nerdcore uprising (5, Insightful)

Tanktalus (794810) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900777)

Um, no.

Jocks and athletes have power in secondary schools simply because their ego is fed by the swooning girls who are hardwired to look for guys who can protect them. In secondary school, girls think that big, strong guys provide the daddy-style protection that they covet. It's not until later (20 to 30) that most women figure out it's the nerds that will provide the economic protection that they really want. Of course, by that time, the nerds will have picked up zero in the socialisation department and not know what to do to pick up the chicks.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900883)

Um, no.

Not so, my good man, the large, tall, "hench" nerds overrule your statement

Re:Nerdcore uprising (2, Interesting)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901203)

Naah. Hench nerds still don't have the social skills, but they aren't beat up on as much by the jock types.

It's still a broad generalization... I'm very much a nerd, but still have decent social skills. I can pretend to be mostly normal if I have to ;) But many nerds don't realize that social skills are still a skill that requires effort and time and practice to develop, just like athleticism, or video game playing, chess club, whatever.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (4, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900947)

It's funny how so many people seem to have gone to school on a different planet than I did ...

I guess maybe it's how you look at things. Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission." I'd put it differently: whether you are an insider and outsider is a matter of perspective. If you aspire to be something you aren't cut out to be, then you're an outsider.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (4, Interesting)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901189)

Sorry but I'm fairly certain I didn't imagine getting my glasses stolen (hidden in the teachers' desk). Or sand dumped on my head. Or my gymbag thrown into the girls' locker room.

This isn't just a matter of "attitude" but repeated hazing. If American teachers were doing a proper job, they wouldn't turn a blind eye to this stuff, but instead intercede and punish the instigators. But because the instigators are usually "cool" jocks, they don't do a thing.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (1)

Ogive17 (691899) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901475)

Stories like this make me wonder if I ended up going to one of the most progressive high schools in the nation... Nothing special about my school, 1500-1600 students in a town around 22k people in Ohio... I was in some geeky clubs (math, chess, french) but also lettered in soccer and baseball. Not once was I ever picked on or made fun of for my hobbies or academic success. I also never heard about anyone getting picked on because they were geeks or nerds. Of course, looking back, it seems that a good portion of the smart kids in my school also were athletic.. maybe it's something in the water to produce a breed of smart jocks (I'd guess that 15 of the top 20 in my class academically played at least 1 varsity sport)...

I'm not doubting your story... just trying to figure out what the norm is.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (1)

HertzaHaeon (1164143) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900975)

As young women become more independent and less restrained by traditional gender roles, this will change. In fact, it's already changing. When I went to school, there hardly any female nerds at all, and I had very litle in common with most girls. Now they seem to be everywhere and growing in numbers. While nerds always will be nerds, what was once nerdy has become mainstream and thus more accepted and understood.

So while I don't doubt certain people work just like you say, I think far from all do. With less strict gender roles it would be even better.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900995)

Of course, by that time, the nerds will have picked up zero in the socialisation department and not know what to do to pick up the chicks.

Nonsense... I pickup plenty of women once I tell them about my epiced out NE Druid with full T6!

Re:Nerdcore uprising (2, Insightful)

Prien715 (251944) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901081)

In my experience, there's different types of girls, just like there are guys. If you want cheerleaders, then yes, you probably want to be a jock. But there's more girls in music, dance, political groups, and theater than there ever were in cheerleading (at least in both my HS and college) and they tend to look for different qualities: ability to intelligently carry on a conversation not related to D&D, emotional support, and well, being interesting.

It's unfortunate that so many nerds tend to take the approach that just because you're good at math, you can't play violin (Einstein) or jazz saxophone (Alan Greenspan's went to Julliard for jazz sax before giving it up and going into economics). Randall Munroe is a good contemporary example.

I'd venture if more nerds dropped the attitude of being into technology at the expense of all other interests, they'd probably have an easier time socially.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901309)

You can kind of be into tech while also being interesting - posting my digital photos on deviantArt was how I met my first gf (though I wish I hadn't - turns out she was a sucky girlfriend, and not in a good way)

Re:Nerdcore uprising (4, Insightful)

bitrex (859228) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901373)

they tend to look for different qualities: ability to intelligently carry on a conversation not related to D&D, emotional support, and well, being interesting.

Don't confuse traits girls may look for in a friend with traits they look for in someone they actually want to have sex with.

The difficulty is that human beings are fantastic at self-deception, and often the qualities that a person tells you they're looking for in a mate are not really the qualities they're looking for, but are whatever allows them to think of themselves in a positive light and avoid too much cognitive dissonance. In practice, if the reality of their behavior doesn't fit with their image of themselves, it can always be rationalized later.

In light of the constant state of self-deception that people live in (it's a fantastic evolutionarily strategy), taking advice from a woman on what she wants in someone to actually have sex with is like asking the Devil for advice on avoiding sin - it will always lead you wrong. If you want to learn, pay attention to the behavior, not the words.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901159)

>>>nerds will have picked up zero in the socialisation department and not know what to do to pick up the chicks

"Hi. My name is ______. I couldn't help noticing your beautiful smile. :-) What's your name?"

Re:Nerdcore uprising (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901281)

Thanks a lot, buddy.

You should have seen her face when I tried to introduce myself by saying "Hi. My name is underscore-underscore-underscore-underscore-underscore-underscore. I couldn't help noticing your beautiful smile. :-) What's your name?"

Re:Nerdcore uprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901401)

Did you say "colon-hyphen-right parenthesis" or "colon-dash-right bracket" there?

Re:Nerdcore uprising (4, Interesting)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900881)

Maybe it was just my school, but the line between "jock" and "nerd" blurred a lot. At least so much as "nerd" is defined as the smarter kids who typically do well as far as grades. Most of the top athletes at my school were actually in the top of their class (and that wasn't any fudging going on - most of them I'd known since grade school and they'd always made good grades even before athletics came into play). I myself played offensive line (Guard, though I'll admit despite being 1st string I wasn't really considered a "star player") and graduated second in my class. At least one of the guys who was a few years ahead of me graduated with honors AND had the unique distinction of never missing a single day of school from grade K through 12. Absolutely perfect attendance. He later played for both the Cleavland Browns and the Denver Broncos.

We just didn't have that TV drama "guys with letterman jackets picking on the smart kids" thing going on. I've often wondered if that we were just an exception or if that situation plays out less often in real life than on TV.

There was CERTAINLY a division between the athletes and the "kinda goth" (I say kinda goth because these guys were not quite as white makeup and weird as TV goths - rather some Southern goth variant), but that was pretty much separate from grades. It also was mostly just a situation where the two groups didn't associate rather than actively persecuting each other. Both groups had their smart and dumb people with about equal frequency.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (2, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901045)

This was true in my high school as well. A large portion of the football team went to ivy leauge schools (we're in Texas). The ones that didn't however either made it into 2nd or 3rd tier state colleges in a highschool with an 80% "goes on to college" rate, where most of the students head off to 1st or 2nd tier state colleges.

Re:Nerdcore uprising (4, Interesting)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901105)

Most of the top athletes at my school were actually in the top of their class (and that wasn't any fudging going on - most of them I'd known since grade school and they'd always made good grades even before athletics came into play). I myself played offensive line

Many people on the football team thought the same thing about the team captains. I heard people saying that one of the captains should have been valedictorian because he was the smartest person they knew.

In actuality, they didn't know the smartest kids in the school because they didn't take the same classes as those kids (myself included). If they had paid attention, they would have known that the valedictorian had done research that was being published in journals and that there were more than a dozen students (out of 200 or so) who were ahead of him academically. He obviously wasn't dumb, and he did well in school and will likely do well in life, but he wasn't at the top of the class. Like your school, there wasn't any animosity, just a lack of socialization between the groups.

It's too cold (2, Funny)

Ced_Ex (789138) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900743)

Who wants to be outside in cold wet weather physically exerting themselves when you can be toasty and lazy sitting on the couch?

Surveys, surveys, surveys (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900755)

I am starting to think these surveys are worthless. For example, couldn't you also infer:

Gamers more likely to answer surverys than sports aficionados.

On some of these (yes, I get telephone surveys about once a month that I HANG UP ON) I have to think the results would be:

x% of people stupid enough to answer a survey think y.

F(f)ootball?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900775)

I don't care how popular Football is over there, but if they're talking about football, now THAT is impressive.

25% of my society is sweedish (3, Interesting)

dalewj (187278) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900791)

About 25% of my online society (Hunters-unlimited.com) is sweedish and uses those funny little dots in their words. Plus one or the games we play (entropiauniverse.com) is also sweedish, They are a pleasure to play with, speaking multiple languages (for the most part). With all that extra night time in the winter they keep our soc warm.

Good (2, Informative)

BigJClark (1226554) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900831)


Maybe in 10 years the game of hockey will return to normal, and we won't have to worry about the prancing-through-the-daffodil-swedes wrecking our game with their pseudo-soccer-take-the-fall style of game.

I kid, I kid ;)

The Temperature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25900851)

Why do you suppose Linus was coding all winter instead of out playing golf, tennis, or basketball.
It wasn't yet too cold to type. This could be the end of open source. Unless all the CS people in the frozen north get bored with gaming.

Be more specific (1)

johnkzin (917611) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900869)

When reading this article via RSS, I couldn't tell if you meant Computer Gaming (or even pen and paper gaming), or Gambling ("The Gaming Industry" usually refers to gambling), or based upon the writing skills of some contributors, maybe even hunting (game == animals).

I had to actually open the article on /. to see that it has a "pcgames" tag to know that it's about computer games. I shouldn't have to do that.

Try to be nice to the RSS subscribers. Be a little more specific in your article summaries.

Where do Swedish dudes find the time... (1)

Ender Wiggin 77 (865636) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900871)

with all those uber-hot Swedish women around?

Re:Where do Swedish dudes find the time... (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900987)

Having had the pleasure of working in Stockholm I refer to Sweeden as Walk into Lamppost country because of all the head turning women.

More than - played - football and hockey (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900955)

Sure, almost anyone can play a round of knock-about pond hockey as a kid.

.
But fundamentally, organized league play is a physically demanding - potentially very dangerous sport - at every level. Typically kids begin training no later than nine or ten and it's a big investment in time and money.

You can be a Wii Bowler and call yourself physically active. But that isn't going to be good enough to keep you competitive on the rink with a talented seventh grader.

What about the asians? (2, Informative)

Zathain Sicarius (1398033) | more than 5 years ago | (#25900991)

Haven't they been following this same trend for a while? Heck, Star Craft is essentially a sport over in Korea.

borkborkbork (5, Funny)

yours truly zerocool (1409875) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901013)

Does this mean when Starcraft 2 comes out I will start seeing borkborkborks instead of just kekekes?

Re:borkborkbork (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901167)

Thanks for giving me my first lol of the day, that is fantastic

Can't say that here! (-1, Offtopic)

alta (1263) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901071)

Alabama vs Auburn 2:30 on CBS.

Yeah, we may be #1 in the AP, BCS, USA and EPSN polls. And yeah, we're 11 and 0...

But none of that matters to us. Beating Auburn is all that matters. We've lost the last 6, it's time to fix that. And sure, you may say Auburn is only 5-6, and Alabama is favored to win by 14pts. But none of that matters in this game.

Roll Tide

Since when do swedes play football? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901075)

I just don't see them playing football. Maybe norway, because they got lots of bigs guys that could easily play the line, but swedes? Maybe flag football.

Why is this surprising? (5, Interesting)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901119)

Museums, it turns out, have much higher attendance in aggregate than professional sports. They have a much greater net economic impact than professional sports as well. A single headliner museum in a city can bring in a quarter of a billion dollars annually; the Boston Museum of Fine Arts (an absolutely amazing place) was shown to bring in 369 million annually to the Boston area in a recent study. This is actually comparable to the annual revenue of the Red Sox; the net impact of the Red Sox on regional economy might be somewhat more, but there are a lot more comparable cultural institutions in Boston than there are comparable sports teams. You can walk across the street from the MFA to the Gardner, a smaller but equally culturally significant art museum. Boston is a famous sports town, but it is stuffed to the gills with cultural institutions that have heavy attendance every day (except possibly Mondays) year round.

I think one of the reasons for the outsize impact of cultural institutions is that they have a mission to have an impact. They're supposed to maximize bodies in the doors, eyeballs on the exhibits. Sports franchises aren't run that way. They're run to maximize profit.

Gaming's higher impact is likewise related to the fact you can do it every day. However it isn't going to have the same economic impact as having strong cultural institutions.

Is this surprising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901239)

More people play video games than engage in organized physical activity? I'm shocked, SHOCKED! I always thought it was a minority of people that engaged in organized sports...

OF COURSE it is 1 (1, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 5 years ago | (#25901241)

what is football and hockey after all ?

you just sit in front of a tv, and passively watch OTHER people playing a game.

with computer games, at least YOU get to play the game.

No Suprise Here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25901305)

Sweden is also the host of the oldest running LPMUD, NannyMUD (http://www.nannymud.com/ [nannymud.com] ). Sweden was doing multiplayer gaming before most of us had the internets!
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