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Battlestar Galactica Gets Spinoff Prequel Series

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the frak-here-comes-more-fraking dept.

Sci-Fi 297

It was recently announced that sci-fi remake series Battlestar Galactica is getting a whole new spinoff prequel series called "Caprica." Signed on for twenty hours worth of finished product, including a two-hour pilot, the new series is to be set 50 years prior to Battlestar Galactica, and will focus on two rival families, the Graystones and the Adamas. "Enmeshed in the burgeoning technology of artificial intelligence and robotics that will eventually lead to the creation of the Cylons, the two houses go toe-to-toe blending action with corporate conspiracy and sexual politics. 'Caprica' will deliver all of the passion, intrigue, political backbiting and family conflict in television's first science fiction family saga."

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297 comments

So... (4, Funny)

wtansill (576643) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976899)

It'll be like "Dallas" or "Knot's Landing", but with spaceships? Wow!

Re:So... (3, Insightful)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977041)

It'll be like "Dallas" or "Knot's Landing", but with spaceships? Wow!

No, that was V [wikipedia.org]

WOW!!! First science fiction family saga!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977829)

I am so excited I could hardly care less!!!!

Re:So... (2, Informative)

Bazzargh (39195) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977129)

It'll be like "Dallas" or "Knot's Landing", but with spaceships? Wow!

You mean exactly [youtube.com] like The Colbys [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:So... (2, Interesting)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977149)

or worse... Like Galactica 1980.

They already said there will be less spaceships -- thus, motorcycles is the way to go!

Seriously though, hopefully the writing quality of this is superior to the remake of Battlestar. In that it has far fewer gaping plotholes and some sense of forward momentum. I gave up with this show during the hendrix jumping the shark moment. The scripts had poor dramatic tension up to that point, but hendrix was the final straw.

Tag this one Flying Motorcycles. (2, Funny)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977935)

next up buck rodgers. bee dee bee dee bee dee

Re:So... (2, Informative)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977169)

And, if The Register [theregister.co.uk] and its headline on this story can be believed, without spaceships either.

And no hawt skinjob Cylons either. Why, exactly, would I watch this?

Re:So... (2, Funny)

eos3fan (1309791) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977471)

Overheard in the green room: "When you go to shoot J.R., make sure the laser's set to stun, not kill..."

Re:So... (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977675)

"It'll be like "Dallas" or "Knot's Landing", but with spaceships? Wow!"

I was thinking more like "Dynasty" for this decade (the 00's?). I can see them using Joan Collins as a proto Cylon...

Re:So... (2, Funny)

Windows_NT (1353809) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977717)

Darn .. for a second i was thinking spaceballs ...

Re:So... (1)

Ender Wiggin 77 (865636) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977783)

Why don't they just do another 2 seasons of BSG? It probably costs more per episode versus this family drama but will do much better in re-runs/syndication and Bluray sales.

Re:So... (4, Funny)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978105)

It'll be like "Dallas" or "Knot's Landing", but with spaceships?

Exactly! Except, without the spaceships.

Recently announced? (2, Interesting)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976907)

They've been talking about Caprice since season 2 or 3. I suppose this is more a case of 'it's now got budget/go ahead' than anything that's going to surprise any fan that's been paying attention.

Re:Recently announced? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977859)

This was actually confirmed and budgeted about a year ago. I'm not sure why this is news.

Re:Recently announced? (2, Interesting)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977895)

Yeah, I even thought I saw a trailer for the series as much as a year ago.

As I recall, it was entirely impossible to tell from watching the trailer that it was in any way related to BSG, aside from the title. Looked boring.

then what happens? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25976917)

...and will focus on two rival families, the Graystones and the Adamas.

Hmm. I wonder if one of them survives the Cylon attack.

Re:then what happens? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977315)

One from each family dies at some point the an Adama & a Graystone build the first cylons.

Not good... (3, Insightful)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976919)

This probably should wait until George Lucas is dead, just to be safe.

Re:Not good... (5, Funny)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976987)

>This probably should wait until George Lucas is dead, just to be safe.
1. GreyStones Wars
2. Revenge of the Adamas
3. The Greystones Strike Back
4. Profit!
Shudder.....

Re:Not good... (4, Funny)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977097)

If this new series involves a dagget with big, floppy ears, that talks like a Jamaican, I can no longer be a BSG fan. See ya!

Re:Not good... (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977801)

All the proto Cylons will talk like Twiki from Buck Rogers in the 25th Century:
"biddi-biddi-biddi"

Re:Not good... (1)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977361)

Everybody knows that "bears beats battlestar galactica" anyway. They should just skip straight to a show about bears.

Re:Not good... (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978067)

He'd rework it so the Cylons shot first.

Re:Not good... (4, Funny)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978095)

This probably should wait until George Lucas is dead, just to be safe.

Good, idea......I'll be right back.

Really? (3, Insightful)

Wolfmandan72 (1395113) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976977)

FRACK!

Remember 1980 (4, Interesting)

Templar (14386) | more than 5 years ago | (#25976983)

Presumably they're doing this because the last Galactica spinoff [wikipedia.org] went so well? Invisible ships and flying motorcycles. How ever can they top that?

Re:Remember 1980 (3, Interesting)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977085)

Both have something already in common. They're both being sold to their networks as cheaper-to-produce versions of their predecessors. SciFi is probably thinking "If we set it on a planet and forgo all the FX, it will attract the same old Galactica audience but be a lot cheaper to make." Unfortunately for them, that is exactly what NBC execs told themselves about Galactica 1980. The audience won't follow over if the material is crap, Galactica name or not.

Re:Remember 1980 (2, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977139)

How do you explain season 3?

Bender: WhooooOOOOOooooooo!

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977255)

Morbid curiosity and obsessive-compulsive need for closure.

At least, that explains it in my case. I'll probably ride the "BSG re-imagined" train to its final bitter end.

Did I ever mention that I'm the kind of guy who won't drop quests in MMORPGs, even after they're worthless for experience or faction reputation or anything, because I hate to be a quitter? Thank God I never took up any destructive habits; if, for instance, I started smoking I'd probably drop dead with a cig in my lips rather than be a quitter.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977579)

The only thing that I see as being up in the air is whether Starbuck dies, ascends and comes back to life once more, or twice more.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977303)

No shit. Season 1 & 2 -- Capital. Glorious. Tight. Everything fit. Then the rescue off new caprica where I think the most awesome cut scene in the bloody history of scifi/drama has ever happened, and then...

The suck monsters descended. The series didn't just jump the shark right then and there, it jumped over the shark and into an anime-styled suck hole, to the screams of Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhn!

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977779)

we'reeeeee goiiiiiinnnnng the [youtube.com] wrong waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!

Re:Remember 1980 (3, Insightful)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978109)

Simple. Season 3 was good, and people are just whiners.

The show has, imnsho, been extremely high quality from start to finish. I never have understood, and probably never will understand, where people get this idea that the show has gone downhill.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977117)

I never knew about this series... I may actually have to get it (or atleast rent it).. I am curious now.. I imagine it will be horrendous... but hey its just TV.. maybe a bad TV series night and make a drinking game out of it...

Re:Remember 1980 (2, Insightful)

vidarh (309115) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977289)

You might find yourself drinking profusely for weeks to forget all about it.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

RESPAWN (153636) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977607)

You might find yourself drinking profusely for weeks to forget all about it.

If not a full frontal lobotomy. Seriously, GP, forget about it and simply consider yourself lucky that you never saw it. It's easily one of the worst sci-fi shows I've ever the displeasure of watching.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

pluther (647209) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977777)

Is it just me, or does that seem more like a challenge than anything else?

If I hadn't watched it when it first came out, I'd be running out to get it now based on that description.

But, I have already watched it. Yeah, it's bad. Really, really, bad. Especially so if you liked the original.

But, that said, definitely worth watching. But make sure you do so with a group of friends who like the whole making snarky comments at bad TV thing.

And definitely liquor. Lots of liquor.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

Samus (1382) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977919)

There is one episode that is worth something. It was an episode where Starbuck is stranded on a desolate planet with a Cylon. It is a total rip off of Enemy Mine but it is worth watching. Note that this is Starbuck's only appearance in the new series. Most of the original cast did not appear in the second series.

Re:Remember 1980 (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977201)

The First Rule of BSG Fan Club Is You Don't Talk about 1980. The second rule is WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT 1980! It never happened. That series doesn't exist. It vanished into a black hole like disco okay? Eye bleach, neeeeeeed! It's the BSG fan equivalent of Nemesis. It didn't happen, okay? Did. Not. Happen.

Re:Remember 1980 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977237)

Real dedication means claiming you are a year younger than you actually are. Well, probably not for you, I'm guessing you were born after THE YEAR THAT MUST NOT BE MENTIONED. But for us old guys.

Re:Remember 1980 (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977349)

Nah, but I have a friend who's dad is a BSG fan too; Has all the DVDs, so we went over and I found 1980. So I borrowed it. I'm soooo sorry. It was worse than eating three chili cheese burritoes and a Vault while on the rag. It just... omg.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977323)

It's the BSG fan equivalent of Nemesis. It didn't happen, okay? Did. Not. Happen.

You mean it's the BSG equivalent of Highlander 2:The Quickening?

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977391)

You mean it's the BSG equivalent of Highlander 2:The Quickening?

Worse. The plot actually makes sense for that movie, even if the acting is so horrible that it would drive you to an evening with Jack and the boys. u_u

Re:Remember 1980 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977477)

Disco's not dead - it just got too cool for you!

Re:Remember 1980 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977839)

The original was better. The clear feminist agenda in the new series is deplorable.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

Tyr_7BE (461429) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977865)

It's stored in a vault next to the Star Wars Christmas Special.

Re:Remember 1980 (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978025)

I'd rate it more like Star Trek V: The Final Frontier or Jaws III. So bad that it causes mental blocks, and makes you wish you hadn't seen it. Eye bleach definitely required. The only way Galactica 1980 should be seen is if you have an iron will and never seen any of the Battlestar Galactica shows, being fully aware that it gets WAY, WAY better.

Happened it did, yeeesss... (1)

ElboRuum (946542) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978039)

Happened it did, embarrassing it was. Search your feelings, young Skywalker... you know it to be true.

*self realization hits*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Hey, does anyone know if they dismantled the flight-capable motorcycles that they borrowed out of the CHiPs prop room?

How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (1)

Ex-Linux-Fanboy (1311235) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977031)

I understand the new Battlestar Galactica series is a reboot of the original series. That said, as I understand it, the new series has shown critters that look like the original 1970s series Cylons, saying they were an "older model" of the Cylons.

Now that we are in the past of the series, I wonder if we will get to see more of these Cylons that are faithful to the original series, and whether scenes like the destruction of the planet will be like the pilot to the original series.

Re:How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (4, Informative)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977053)

watch the pilot again- first minute.

The colonial officer is perusing plans of the original cylon model-- that looks like the original series model.

Re:How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977185)

There's also a shot of one in a display case in the "gift shop" before the attacks.

Re:How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (2, Informative)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977481)

Obvious "hark-backs":

  • Older-model Centurions in older-model Raiders ("manned", not cyborg) guarding the "First Hybrid" in Razor
  • Mark II Viper is a visual dead-on clone of the original series one (although, not fitted with those nifty laser weapons)
  • Pegasus and other later-model battlestars are styled more like original series ones than Galactica (see http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:Pegasus-Comparison.png [battlestarwiki.org] )

That's just off the top of my head.

Re:How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (1)

Sancho (17056) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977567)

Probably not.

Ever notice how the Enterprise in Enterprise looked way more advanced that the Enterprise in Star Trek (I'm not enough of a fanboy to remember the ship model numbers.)

You can tell the story, and even pay a small homage to the old designs, without being stuck to 1970s special effects and set design. A few die-hard fans might bitch, but you'll be way more likely to attract new viewers by making things more modern.

Also, it's not completely clear that BSG2003 was a reboot. Lots of fans postulate that the show is set either long before or long after the original series, and that the time line is cyclical with lots of the same characters and events replaying over and over. This has all happened before; it will happen again.

Re:How faithful to the 1970s series will it be? (2, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977769)

Ever notice how the Enterprise in Enterprise looked way more advanced that the Enterprise in Star Trek.

It got to be embarrassing. The original Star Trek bridge now looks like an outdated comm center for mall security.

The original Battlestar Galactica bridge from the 1970s was powered by Tektronix, and many of the controls actually did something visible. This was a real problem for the actors, who had to learn how to operate the systems.

"2001" was more futuristic. An AI took care of the details, and the crew just chatted with the AI.

Spinoff + Prequel (3, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977059)

Spinoff + Prequel all we need is an alien life form or a ghost that only the main character can see and talk to who only heckles the main character to make it a truly horrible idea.

Re:Spinoff + Prequel (1)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977165)

Mr. Snuffleupagus and an Adama grand-pere would indeed make quite a team.

Re:Spinoff + Prequel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977501)

"It's the Love-Matic Cylon..."

Great, now you've given them ideas...

Late in the game (5, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977069)

Honestly, it's hard for me to drum up any interest in this at this point. The new BSG was one of my favorite TV shows of all time. It was truly amazing and I have loved it. HOWEVER, the Sci-fi channel has done almost everything in their power to crush my interest in the show. The between season and mid-season breaks since season 2 ended have just been utterly ridiculous. It's an exaggeration, but I swear it feels like I'm watching the last 2 seasons of this show at a rate of 3-4 episodes per year. I'll finish out what's left of the show at this point because I'm already embroiled. I'm not sure I want to endure getting involved in another series that Sci-fi controls though.

Personally, I'm far more interested in sticking with Terminator: TSCC so long as it maintains sufficient ratings to avoid cancellation. I only have room in my schedule to keep up with a few shows at a time anyways.

Re:Late in the game (4, Insightful)

budcub (92165) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977205)

I agree. Too bad they can't turn over the show to HBO or Showtime and have them do it right.

Re:Late in the game (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977713)

I agree. Too bad they can't turn over the show to HBO or Showtime and have them do it right.

I agree. I tried to get my wife interested in the show, but after the third or fourth "Frak You!", she said, "That's it, I'm out."

Re:Late in the game (1)

NDPTAL85 (260093) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977989)

Why'd you marry a non-geek?

Life's too short.

Re:Late in the game (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977281)

I only have room in my schedule to keep up with a few shows at a time anyways.

I can keep up with about 20 different shows. I use mythtv and export a lot to my ipod itunes auto-magically picks up the episodes from my server and all is well. nothing like watching Colbert report on the way in to work...

Plus I watch everything on my terms. It's a refreshing change to TV.

Re:Late in the game (1)

Xenophon Fenderson, (1469) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978019)

nothing like watching Colbert report on the way in to work

And to think people complain about just texting while driving! Thank ${DEITY} I work from home and don't have to share the road with the likes of you.

Re:Late in the game (1)

greg_barton (5551) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977825)

I disagree with that sentiment. I'd rather have quality than speed. If it takes them a long time to finish, then so be it. If I want to watch them back to back then that's what DVD/iTunes is for.

BSG doesn't air in "Seasons." (3, Informative)

solios (53048) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977897)

Sure, they CALL them seasons, but if you think about it what we're really getting are UK-length series* of the show, mislabeled.

Think about it.

Series 1 : 13 episodes, Jan-April 2005

Series 2 : 10 episodes, July-September 2005

Series 3 : 10 episodes, Jan-March 2006 # called "season 2.5" for the DVDs and considered to be "second half" of season 2.

Series 4 : 20 episodes, October 2006 - January 2007 # called "season 3," the only time the new BSG has run in anything approximating a traditional TV "season" form.

Series 5 : 10 episodes, April-June 2008 # called "the first half of season 4"

Series 6 : 10 episodes, January-?? 2009 # called "the second half of season 4"

* UK TV shows don't run in seasons, they run in "series" (eg series 1, series 2, etc. as listed above), typically of 1-10 episodes... though for British comedies, 4-6 episodes is considered a "series" - compare to the US "season," which typically consists of 18-22 episodes. Imagine waiting 46 weeks to get your weekly dose of Red Dwarf (or No Heroics or The IT Crowd or whatever).... it kinda makes the several-month gap between BSG series look positively brief.

Re:Late in the game (2, Interesting)

Xelios (822510) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977921)

It seems like sci-fi shows get mishandled by their networks more often than not, then they blame the show when it gets mediocre ratings. The few episodes of BSG in season 3 that seemed like one-offs came about because the network decided the long story arc made it too hard for people to get into the show. The producers were pressured to create one-off episodes (like Star Trek used to be) and look what happened. Those episodes were by far the worst episodes in BSG (The Woman King?).

Lets not even get into what FOX did to Firefly...

oh hell. (5, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977133)

It's reality TV from the fuuuuuuture. I can haaardly wait.

Episode 1: It begins with a street fight between the Adamas and the Capule--I mean Capricas. They try to marry off the young future commander adama but is turned down for not being gay enough for Baltar's grandfather.

Episode 2: Adama is asked to wait a few years and then go to a bar, where he'll meet his future lover, Tye, who unfortunately is also a Caprican. Angst results.

Episode 3: Adama professes his love while standing on a balcony having a conversation with his mother about toaster studels. Tye overhears this, and they agree to a civil union. The rest of the Adama family hears of this and declare war on the Capricas. They're so distracted that they fail to realize the toasters have become sentient. A trail of burnt strudel leads to the outskirts of town.

*six month break due to writer strike -- online commentary -- this plotline SUCKS!!! It has a political agenda! Doom upon the soothsayers* ...
Yeah, I can see it now. Now watch me get modded "-6000, damn slash fan"

Re:oh hell. (1)

Krondor (306666) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977605)

I'm in agreement, but not for your reasons.

To me this sounds uninteresting. Caprica is toast, and any kind of day to day drama will always have this overtone of futility. How much of the day to day drama and plot points will be completely irrelevant given how the future plays out in BSG proper.

I mean the show kind of set itself up as a, oh crap starting over, thing. Do the day to day trials and tribulations of the show's Montague and Capulet equivalents even matter to fans?

Re:oh hell. (2, Funny)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978021)

It's reality TV from the fuuuuuuture. I can haaardly wait.

Episode 1: It begins with a street fight between the Adamas and the Capule--I mean Capricas. They try to marry off the young future commander adama but is turned down for not being gay enough for Baltar's grandfather.

Yes yes, it's the Jets versus the Sharks-with-lasers. And a cylon officer Krupke tries to keep the peace.

Jebeezus, how many people know what the hell we're talking about! Funny thing is, it's 90% of all TV.

your sly post cracked me up,

Ummm, Soooooooo . . . (1)

turbopunk (806995) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977197)

Romeo and Juliet . . . ? Seriously, I mean, it's a spin off of a remake of an old show, but due they have to use a description that makes it sound like there is NOTHING original about it?

"recently"?! (1)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977273)

This is old, old news... 3.5 years old, [google.ca] in fact.

Re:"recently"?! Sure is. (2, Insightful)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977633)

Apparently, Slash articles need to have pre-posting supplemental research/vetting/URL-add-ons before going into the wild:

http://www.galacticawatercooler.com/ [galacticawatercooler.com]

Then, it might have read:

"Previously-announced BSG-Prequel 'Caprica'green-lighted"

Actual editorial activity? (1)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977857)

Apparently, Slash articles need to have pre-posting supplemental research/vetting/URL-add-ons before going into the wild:

Then it just wouldn't be Slashdot ...

Whose sponsoring this crap, KY? (0, Flamebait)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977277)

This thing sounds so gay it makes my rear hurt. Whatever happened to the simple concept of a bunch of people in space and scantily clad women blowing up a bunch of fracking toasters. Give me some liberal preaching and moralizing every now and then, that's cool over a drink, but at the end, I don't want to watch a tv show about someone else's mental problems. I vote for Bush twice and I have enough of my own!

Creativity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977311)

The ultimate anti-thesis to creativity. A prequel to a remake of an existing IP.

It happens way too often for my tastes. Watered down entertainment from chicken writers not willing to go out on a limb.

Re:Creativity? (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977731)

Actually, the ultimate antithesis to creativity is the standard television series. The theory is if you like a show, you tune in week after week to see more of the same thing. Do something different, and you piss the fans off.

Faced with the challenge of adapting each and every episode to the fans' expectations, the creative challenges of adapting an entire series isn't so daunting. It's like getting the regular customer who always buys the curry to try the saag paneer; that's much less risky than tweaking your curry recipe.

I've seen this before... (2, Interesting)

yttrstein (891553) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977335)

"the two houses go toe-to-toe blending action with corporate conspiracy and sexual politics"

I wonder if it's going to be as good as when it was the Harkonnens and the Atreideses.

Re:I've seen this before... (1)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978005)

If only the people in BSG had learned the lessons of the Butlerian Jihad...

And In Today's News... (2, Insightful)

BigBlueOx (1201587) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977343)

Another brain-damaged gaggle of entertainment industry parasites have rehashed an old idea in the hopes of inflicting it on a witless populace.

The Day The Earth Stood Still?
King Kong?
Star Wars XI:A New Source Of Revenue?

No, Battlestar Galactica: The Prequel.

pfft.

Parallels (1)

Mad-Bassist (944409) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977399)

From Battlestar Galactica to the new series and Caprica...

This reminds me of the transition from Star Trek to Next Generation to Deep Space Nine.

when now? (1)

revxul (463513) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977405)

Define "recently." We've been hearing about Caprica for a year now. Anywho, it should be interesting.

The squish bits and only the squishy bits (0, Troll)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977415)

The single most boring thing about the new Battlestart Galactica series were all the philosophical / internal-conflict / interpersonal-power-play scenes which were used as cheap filler (no FX = cheap) in between the action scenes.

Now they want to do a series which consists almost entirely of cheap filler scenes???

The 1980s are calling and they want their Dallas clone back ...

Re:The squish bits and only the squishy bits (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977593)

The single most boring thing about the new Battlestart Galactica series were all the philosophical / internal-conflict / interpersonal-power-play scenes which were used as cheap filler (no FX = cheap) in between the action scenes.

Not necessarily. It simply that Moore and the show's directors know how to choreograph and direct action. Zoic's excellent FX help enormously. However, Moore has no idea how to use drama and discovery over a long arc. Hence much of the show is tedious, disoriented and lacking drive. Which is a shame because the camerawork and effects are very good, some of the acting is also very good, and some individual scenes are well written. The lack of vision and control of the whole story deeply lets the show down.

It is -- for someone who has better skills working with arc storylines -- very possible to create drama and excitement in dialogue-based scenes. However, that person is not Moore.

Re:The squish bits and only the squishy bits (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977597)

The whole "new BG" series is just a damn soap opera INNNN SPAAAAAAACCCEEE. The original actually was interesting and resembled sci-fi a bit, even if it was cheesy as hell. The new series seems ready-made for women and other teen-to-young-adult demographics.

Just like pretty much every other "sci-fi" show made these days. It's more drama and/or soap opera than scifi. Putting your drama/soap series INNNNN SPAAAAAACCCCEEE doesn't make it sci-fi.

Posting anonymous coward because I don't want to incur the wrath of the BG-loving mods that can't take a little simple truth that their series isn't as great as they think it is.

Re:The squish bits and only the squishy bits (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977685)

Maybe it was boring to *you*, but all that power-/interpersonal play is what garnered it many awards for sci-fi with brains. And, it strongly commented on the "war" (parenthetically, i write it) without necessarily taking sides. It did so MUCH better than even the original Star Trek. BSG is a lot more visceral, kills off liked or likeable characters...

Debate (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977575)

Once the last cylon is revealed, the first season of the new spinoff will be a lengthy debate about what the definition of "Not in your fleet" means.

Yes! (1)

lewp (95638) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977589)

... with sexy results.

Sounds like... (5, Funny)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977601)

Sounds like a cross between Dune and Star Wars Episode 1.

With all the fast-moving action of the former and all the rich storytelling of the latter.

Only 50 years (1)

fracai (796392) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977691)

Anyone else think the whole BSG storyline would have been a lot more interesting if the time between the 1st Cylon war and the current series had been something like a few hundred years? Maybe even a few thousand?

Re:Only 50 years (1)

robertjw (728654) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978009)

I was thinking about that, but I do think it is fairly reasonable for a sentient cybernetic race to evolve and an extremely fast rate. Look how far we've come in the last 50 years.

Do they have a plan? (1)

transami (202700) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977735)

Yea right.

They still can't make sense of the last series b/c they messed it up so bad -- they kept telling us they had a plan, oh really? what "plan"? it was a random mess.

And Boomer and clones got so "fraked-up" I don't think it's even possible to square it with any logical consistency.

BSG no longer falls under SciFi, it's FrakedFi.

Old, Old news. (1)

solios (53048) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977745)

io9 has been reporting on Caprica since at least January [io9.com] , if not earlier. The real news here is that SciFi's ordered up a full season, even though it hasn't aired the pilot yet.

This could be a rash decision on their part - the series pitch is loudly devoid of anything that's made the rebooted series interesting (namely, spaceships and explosions), instead loudly billing itself as Dynasty in spaaaaaace.

I don't know about you, but my gut reaction to this is a bored "next!"

If the story gets over its pretentious pretext and goes somewhere interesting - like, say... the first Human/Cylon war, then I'm in. Otherwise... what's to distinguish it from the umpty other dramas out there, aside from (one would hope) an sfx budget?

Re:Old, Old news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977891)

The first Human/Cylon war?

Wasn't that over in like, 7 minutes?

I suppose they could make _maybe_ one episode about it, but tit would have to be so incredibly chock full of pointless filler as to make it unbearable to watch...

Re:Old, Old news. (1)

solios (53048) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977923)

It would, but for me, "family drama" is just a shorter way of saying "42 minutes of filler."

Re:Old, Old news. (1)

thermian (1267986) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977977)

I suspect they are going for the daytime soap watching audience, including, yes, the kind of people who watched Dallas. That is a pretty hefty and reliable market, there are millions of people with time to watch these things, so if they could get it, the advertising space revenue would be good.

However, without a helluva loads of advertising, they just won't reach their target audience, since last I checked, people who don't normally watch SF don't even look at the SciFi channel.

It sounds pretty boring to me too.

FRIST STOP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25977797)

television's first science fiction family saga (2, Insightful)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977849)

What about Thunderbirds (1965)? Jeff Tracy and his five sons...

Lost in Space (also 1965) -- John Robinson, his wife and three kids.

Plenty of "families" in SF, depends how you define "saga", which on TV usually means "multi-generational soap opera". If so, not really a drawcard, I think.

In other news... (1)

ElboRuum (946542) | more than 5 years ago | (#25977975)

The Harkonnens still hate the Atreides, Reverend Mother Gaius (Gaius? Hmm...) Helen Mohiam keeps her gom jabbar close and her pain box closer, CHOAM controls a whole lotta shit, the Spacing Guild refuses rides to people who aren't freer with their spice, and they still make many machines on Ix.

Maybe THIS is the way they intend to bring a passable Dune movie to the screen when everything that has come before is stunningly and embarrassingly opus fail. Call it BSG and get rid of all the internal monologues and the sandworms.

Clueless Network (3, Interesting)

StormReaver (59959) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978091)

"One of the network's frustrations with [Battlestar Galactica] has been its dark and increasingly complex mythology."

If *that's* why the network was frustrated by the show, then the network is run by morons. The dark, complicated mythology is part of what made the show so good. Multidimensional characters with complex motivations were a great added bonus to high quality, space-based visual effects.

The frustrations that *should* have been keeping network executives up at night involved huge downtime between seasons. That, above all else, is what caused viewership to decline. People simply lost interest in a show that appeared, for all intents and purposes, to be canceled every year. People were actually surprised when the next season began, and had already decided to watch something else.

Granted, season 3 lost a lot of credibility when the space opera turned soap opera (that season sucked really bad), but the main problems came from scheduling mismanagement by the network.

But... (1)

Burnhard (1031106) | more than 5 years ago | (#25978097)

But no occassionally naked Trisha Helfer, so I won't be watching.
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