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Nintendo To Start Publishing Ebooks On the DS

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the my-eyes-are-burning dept.

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Miracle Jones writes "Nintendo is going to start publishing ebooks for the DS in conjunction with HarperCollins. The first cartridge will go on sale December 26th in the UK, will cost around 30 dollars, and will feature 100 classic books — stuff like Charles Dickens and Jane Austen."

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DRM? (5, Funny)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061673)

Dickens and Austen, eh? So what sort of DRM is Nintendo going to use to "protect" this "IP"?

Re:DRM? (4, Funny)

Justin Hopewell (1260242) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061693)

A 48 character "Friend Code".

Re:DRM? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061781)

who modded this insightful it's a joke the copyrights on those works are expired

Re:DRM? (2, Informative)

spazdor (902907) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061793)

Um, basically none. Have you ever tried using pirated content on a DS?

It's easier than easy.

Re:DRM? (3, Interesting)

TheSambassador (1134253) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062945)

I don't know, I tried to jam a CD with a bunch of PS3 roms on it into my DS and the damn thing broke!

Re:DRM? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061857)

No need. They'll just get Fagin to "send the boys round" if they catch you doing anything untoward.

Re:DRM? (2, Funny)

Teilo (91279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062915)

To whomever modded this "Offtopic": What the Dickens is the matter with you?

Yet another illiterate modder who can't even be bothered to use google.

Re:DRM? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061969)

Dickens and Austen, eh? So what sort of DRM is Nintendo going to use to "protect" this "IP"?

All texts have been adapted to Pig Latin so they can't be translated to other languages through translation software. Open Source fans are countering back with "Pigease" translation software so the advantage should be short lived.

Re:DRM? (4, Funny)

NuclearError (1256172) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061997)

Wouldn't the fact that the material is by Dickens and Austen be enough to stop copying? I, for one, wouldn't pirate it if you paid me.

Re:DRM? (4, Interesting)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062167)

Wouldn't the fact that the material is by Dickens and Austen be enough to stop copying? I, for one, wouldn't pirate it if you paid me.

As a matter of fact Dickens faced enormous problems with piracy at the time. It seems that certain rogue countries in that pre-Berne Convention era saw fit to disregard Dickens's copyrights and allowed pirate printers to profit by his works without paying the author so much as a penny.

Re:DRM? (4, Funny)

kanweg (771128) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062439)

But it gave him new inspiration to think up stories about Scrooge. He didn't pay for the inspiration that the pirates gave him, so they called it even.

Bert

Re:DRM? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26063093)

Most of these pirates were in the US. Now, if you're a proud, patriotic American, reading Charles Dickens' Martin Chuzzlewit may come as something of a shock. The section of that book which is set in the United States reads something like recent years' news stories about Zimbabwe, but with a lot more crooks and hypocrites on the loose.

Re:DRM? (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063037)

>>>certain rogue countries

United States..... they steal the works of good British men and don't have the decency to protect his copyright..... those damn colonials!

Re:DRM? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062497)

It's better than 99% of the shit that's written today.

Re:DRM? (4, Funny)

Omestes (471991) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063181)

Dickens maybe, Austen though? Turn on your TV, change channel to Lifetime, watch it for whatever the equivalent of 50000000 pages is, replacing cars with chariots, and everything else with tea, poof instant Jane Austen.

I personally can't stand either of them. Dickens basically wrote the same book 40 times, while Austen is about as readable as Danielle Steele, but gets credit for being a woman writing books when women didn't right books, which is quite an accomplishment even if said books are about banal people being banal (with tea).

Re:DRM? (1)

interploy (1387145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062893)

I wholeheartedly agree. Who is the demographic for this? Well-intentioned-but-tragically-misguided mothers? For a kid, the only thing worse than reading Dickens is trying to read it on a 3-inch screen.

Re:DRM? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26063271)

Yeah! Charles Dickens and Jane Austen wrote such shitty books! I can't believe they are trying to foist this low-brow garbage unto the gaming community! No one is going to buy it!

Thanks but no thanks, Nintendo. I'll stick with Final Fantasy DS. Now theres a REAL storyline!

Re:DRM? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062027)

Their IP in this case is the reader software itself. If somebody knocked that off (God knows why they would, look at the awful 6-line-per-screen font) then they'd be in bother. As for "what sort of DRM" I believe the DS cartridge had some sort of DRM baked into it by design, but it was trivially cracked a long time ago, and essentially doesn't exist as far as the end user is concerned these days.

Re:DRM? (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062731)

Nobody will be able to stay awake long enough to figure out how to pirate it...

Re:DRM? (3, Funny)

geoffrobinson (109879) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062827)

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right

Re:DRM? (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063257)

You've been playing too much Space Channel 5.

"chu"

Re:DRM? (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062937)

Realistically, probably no DRM. It uses a cartridge and that alone makes it difficult to copy.

I wonder how "readable" a book is on the DS? I may have to buy a DS and this cart for my niece, assuming she can actually read it.

frist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061679)

scuse me

finally! (1)

CheshireFerk-o (412142) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061681)

ds homebrew has always stated to support ebook but i have yet to get one readable. i hope this is well recieved by the public.

Re:finally! (4, Funny)

megamerican (1073936) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061739)

Yes, I can see it now:

Call me Ishmael

*Turn Page*

Re:finally! (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062169)

Oh, so it's like tomshardware.

First ebooks (4, Interesting)

Smelly Jeffrey (583520) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061691)

The first ebooks should be should be of old Nintendo Power [wikipedia.org] magazines!

Re:First ebooks (3, Interesting)

Beyond Opinion (959609) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062059)

I agree. I might even buy it if they did that.

Re:First ebooks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062223)

Nintendo Fun Club News? anyone? still have my ratty issue #2 which announced the upcoming game Legend of Zelda. They knew it was going to change everything before it was released.

Re:First ebooks (1)

colmore (56499) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062769)

Are you sure it wasn't Zelda 2? The first issue of NP was a preview of Mario 2, which came out after the original Legend of Zelda (which was released in Japan for a system that preceded the NES).

I could check all this, but I'm at work and researching old issues of Nintendo Power could easily destroy my day.

Oh and remember how they previewed Final Fantasy every issue for like six months before it came out? I have never anticipated a game so much since.

Re:First ebooks (2, Informative)

Ishin (671694) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062821)

He is speaking of the Nintendo Fun Club Newsletter (a free precursor to the subscription magazine Nintendo Power) which was a very small (40-50 pages if I remember correctly)magazine that featured fan letters, short previews for upcoming games, and a few advertisements for varied nintendo games.

Re:First ebooks (1)

Stolovaya (1019922) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063333)

It was probably Zelda 2. I know the first NP had Mario 2 and maps for the second quest in Zelda.

Re:First ebooks (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062279)

Excellent idea. I recently got my first house and my parents finally found a reason to dump all the old magazines I had been collecting over the years on me. Hundreds of issues of Nintendo Power, EGM, Game Players, Incite, Ultra Game Players, Game Pro, Computer Gaming World, PC Gamer, strategy guides (from SMB3 to Chrono Trigger), etc.

They're awesome to flip through but they take up so much space. I'd really like to keep them but shove them away somewhere but still have easy access to them. Ugh...

Re:First ebooks (1)

theaveng (1243528) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063309)

My old copies of Atari Age are scanned online for quick and easy perusal; no need to keep the old yellow copies. Hasn't somebody somewhere done the same for Nintendo Power, et cetera?

$30? Seriously? (4, Insightful)

mweather (1089505) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061695)

So I get to pay $30 for books I can legally download for free?

Re:$30? Seriously? (4, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061725)

No actually you pay $19.95 for a R4 and then $11.95 for a 2gig miniSD card then download everything you can from project Gutenberg.

If you own a DS, you NEED to own a R4.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061849)

Is there a good ebook reader software already available for the DS? Then one could load it on the R4 with whatever. I googled and didnt' find anything.

Re:$30? Seriously? (2, Interesting)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062237)

You could write one. I would have written one if I knew there was any demand for ebooks on DS. Didn't realize that gamers were into Dickens.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062289)

Didn't realize that gamers were into Dickens.

Why? "Gamers" encompasses more than frat boys playing Call of Duty 4.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

colmore (56499) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062785)

Yeah, but it's still a lot of adults who have "being entertained by toys" as a top hobby.

*ducks and runs*

Re:$30? Seriously? (5, Insightful)

d'fim (132296) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062607)

I think the intended market is guilty parents trying to pretend that their kids will get some educational benefit from the $200 Pokemon game system they bought for their kids last Christmas.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

Ravon Rodriguez (1074038) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062451)

I use DSReader. It only reads text files, but converting most ebooks to txt is trivial.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062977)

Is there a good ebook reader software already available for the DS?

Between rounds of Lockjaw, you can read plain-ASCII or HTML ebooks in DSOrganize 3.1129, or you can read XHTML ebooks in DSLibris.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062143)

R4 is outdated and not supported. You want the AK2 now.

Re:$30? Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062241)

AK2 is outdated. You want the CycloDS now.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062389)

AK2 is still supported, and where Cyclo is better, it also costs four times as much.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062315)

Well, I own an R4 but it's not supported anymore. No more official firmware updates and unofficial ones are sketchy... A sibling suggested the AK2 which I'm not familiar with, but I'm sure the best replacement will rise to the top.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062859)

Not supported anymore means nothing. I have yet to find a rom that does not work in it. Also the homebres DS comic reader works incredibly well.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

Jorophose (1062218) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062669)

Isn't the R4 out of production now?

I'd buy a DSTT or Acekard2.1

And don't these things some how suck up more battery life? (but how much are we talking, and what about things like the M3 Perfect?)

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

tommituura (1346233) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062929)

Isn't the R4 out of production now?

I'd buy a DSTT or Acekard2.1

And don't these things some how suck up more battery life? (but how much are we talking, and what about things like the M3 Perfect?)

As an AK2.1 owner, I have found it somewhat does. OTOH, I also found that remembering to set the light into dimmer in AK menu helps quite a bit. I felt little dumbfounded when I realized AK menu always defaults the background light into max regardless of what was set up in the DS main menu. I haven't even searched, really, for a way to set it to default at other settings. Anyway, since I always remember to set the light to lowest or second-to-lowest setting, I have not had any real problems with battery life. Of course, I'm not that mobile a person so YMMV. I also live in Finland and it's dark here now in winter so it's easy for me to use low light levels. Come summer and sunshine, and this might be a problem.

Re:$30? Seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062845)

You think $30 dollars is expensive for 1000 books? Yes they are in the creative commons and you can download them for free, but you could also go buy them in paperback for 5-10 dollars each brand new. What you are paying for is printing and production costs. The same could be said for the Nintendo DS cart. I doubt that putting the 1000 books on the cart cost them anything but development of the ebook reader for the DS probably cost something as well as the production of the actual cart. I'm sure they would like to make a little money off of their effort as well. There are a lot of people I know that don't have an R4 or m3 simply for their DS that would probably like something like this.

I just find it funny that people complain about something for electronics being not free but if it's a physical thing they have no problem spending money on it. Personally if I was going to spend money on a book I would buy the paper back, but really you don't have to be a jerk bout it.

Re:$30? Seriously? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063013)

The content is free; you're paying for the convenience.

Really, how little do you value your time?

Those are two things that go together naturally... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061705)

... Nintendo and literacy. What's next, Smith & Wesson diet supplements?

Re:Those are two things that go together naturally (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061903)

Granny Smith Wesson Oil Recipes

Re:Those are two things that go together naturally (1)

Flopy (926705) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062209)

Smith & Wesson diet supplements?

I just thought of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" as a good slogan for them.

Re:Those are two things that go together naturally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062665)

Yeah, what next, a Microsoft game console?

about time, but... (3, Interesting)

jaymz2k4 (790806) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061737)

I'd prefer a PDF reader for homebrew. ComicBookDS [gnese.free.fr] is quite a cool little application that will let you read CBR files, you'll need to convert them first but its essentially just scaling & rar'ing them in a particular way.

Re:about time, but... (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062327)

I've used that extensively and really liked it. I never really thought that reading a book on the DS would be worth it though, but maybe this from Nintendo will change my mind.

Nintendo DS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061747)

Is for infantile faggot Nips. I'll bet these so-called "books" involve lots of coloring and perhaps a pop-up or two.

Nintendo used to be a powerful system for real men. Now Nintentoys are just cutesy widdle Pokemon devices. For Shame, what a waste etc.: think of all the lost potential of fucking games the Wii could host! Shit, they wouldn't even allow beer fuckin' pong on it.

Worst Christmas Present Ever.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061787)

"Eh, little Bobby has one of those darn new fangled nintenders? And there's books for it? I'll buy him that!"

In other news (1)

Tragedy4u (690579) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061797)

Average population's vision deteriates due to reading smaller text on smaller electronic screens.

Of Course UK Only (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061819)

If anyone thinks it will succeed in the US should take a look at the fact the USians are the biggest group of sheeple around. They will not care about anything else other than South Fucking Park, Spongebob Shitpants, or any other show on the brain-rotting device called the television. Not many even like reading let alone sitting down to read the classics and expand their imagination.

This is why the USians are the easiest to control.

choices, choices (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26061823)

Hmm, action packed gaming or reading Dickens ? Hmm, let me think.. how will I spend my $30.

I'm studying - I swear! (3, Insightful)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061835)

This sounds like the ultimate excuse for playing your DS during class / at home when you're supposed to be doing homework. Now there just needs to be an alt-tab equivalent so you can flip over to the ebook and pause playing tetris long enough to convince them that you're reading.

Selection (5, Funny)

gehrehmee (16338) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061843)

I know I was just clamoring to get my my hands on the Jane Austin books when I was a kid. If only there was a way to get it digitally, and in a form where I could read it while making people think I was playing video games! Oh, that would have been too much to ask.

Ah My Eyes! (4, Insightful)

necro81 (917438) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061881)

The DS has a decent screen, but I think I (and most everyone else) would start getting a headache in about five minutes if they tried to read lots of text on it. After five weeks, I'd be lucky to see anything at all!

Re: Ah My Eyes! (1)

ODiV (51631) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062067)

Yeah, atually trying it out would be too hard. Let's just guess at the results.

Re: Ah My Eyes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062535)

Yeah, let's spend $30 to get freely available material just to prove what common sense already tells us. In fact, let's apply for a government grant. I mean, there's no way past experience would offer us any indication as to whether this would be something we would actually want to purchase or not.

Re:Ah My Eyes! (2, Informative)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062091)

I was thinking the same thing. For those unfamiliar with the specs, the DS has 2 256x192 pixel (62mmx 46mm) screens, giving it a dot pitch of .24mm. In terms of resolution this puts it above most 320x240 PocketPCs, but well below newer devices such as an iPhone/iPod Touch at 320x480. The bigger issue is that a .24mm dot pitch is extremely coarse for a mobile device (.24 would be around that of a desktop monitor) - compared again to the iPhone at .16 or so, it doesn't give much room for font anti-aliasing.

You won't quite go blind like the OP is exaggerating about, but as a DS owner I can't say I find reading text particularly comfortable on the device. I'll take an iPhone, a Kindle, a PSP, etc any day of the week over a DS.

ClearType (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063129)

The bigger issue is that [the DS Lite screens'] .24mm dot pitch is extremely coarse for a mobile device (.24 would be around that of a desktop monitor) - compared again to the iPhone at .16 or so, it doesn't give much room for font anti-aliasing.

But each pixel has blue, green, and red components side-by-side, so you can get closer to .08 if your reader software uses subpixel [wikipedia.org] antialiasing.

Re:Ah My Eyes! (1)

Ravon Rodriguez (1074038) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062481)

It's not that bad; with the right software you can adjust the font. I rarely read books that aren't on my DS anymore. It's more convenient to download and upload to the DS than go to the bookstore.

Re:Ah My Eyes! (1)

prelelat (201821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062923)

Are there no RPG's that have a lot of text for he DS?

The 26th is days too late (1, Funny)

georgeha (43752) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061937)

to buy a most hated Christmas Present. Can you imagine a kid getting this, "Yay, a new DS game" "Boo, it's just books."

Re:The 26th is days too late (1)

Justin Hopewell (1260242) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062653)

I imagine this is Nintendo reaching out to the adult/casual demographic, but I'd be pretty disappointed whether it was my eighth Christmas or this year's.

all they need is some pretty artwork (5, Funny)

tuffy (10202) | more than 5 years ago | (#26061975)

and it'll be like a DS RPG, but with better stories and fewer boss battles.

Re:all they need is some pretty artwork (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062219)

Aww come on this is funny :) mod it up

Good luck. (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062081)

It's already exhausting staring at that thing for hours, especially with Japanese RPGs which already feature a novel's worth of writing to begin with. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it will be trying to read a book with that thing.

In the very least, I think the DS needs a much higher resolution screen before they start considering anything like this.

UK? Text in English? (3, Funny)

objekt (232270) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062157)

Damn! Sure I can buy it on Ebay, but I speak American.

Re:UK? Text in English? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062541)

the sad part is im not sure if you being sarcastic or not.

Re:UK? Text in English? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062655)

but I speak American.

You're not supposed to speak to it, or listen to it, you are supposed to *read* it.

Hell, some folks read Hieroglyphics, Sumerian and Mayan, without being able to speak it.

Just look at English as a challenge for you to learn how to read another ancient language.

I don't think that last sentence came out quite right.

Did they forget about the DSi? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062187)

You have to wonder whether Nintendo's all one company or a fragmentary band communicating by carrier pigeon. The DSi is about to come out and NoE decide to publish a collection of public domain books on cartridge? Wouldn't it be more sensible to charge some nominal fee for an ebook reader program on the DSi store and then let people "beam" books from the intertrons? Come to think of it, the DSi has a browser built in which will merrily read the contents of Project Gutenberg.

You're All Missing The Point (2, Insightful)

Chabil Ha' (875116) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062189)

I imagine that this product is not geared to twitchy eight year old kids, but a bid to capture older generations (35+). First they came out with their memory enhancement games that had broader appeal to non-gamers. This is just another step in that direction.

Re:You're All Missing The Point (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062307)

Exactly, the DS ads in the UK all feature famous middle-aged-ish celebrities, and programs like the Jamie Oliver cooking one are aimed squarely at non games players.

Re:You're All Missing The Point (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062405)

It certainly fits in with Nintendo's marketing philosophy, which is to broaden the appeal of its platforms beyond traditional gamers.

Economy of scale in tech hardware ultimately trumps everything. It doesn't matter how far "behind" you are on tech specs, if you sell enough units eventually you can challenge your competitors in any market segment by any metric they choose.

Re:You're All Missing The Point (1)

Jorophose (1062218) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062767)

I'd rather have battery life and novel controls that everyone is going to copy next generation than "better graphics".

How many people were actively looking for touchscreens on things like netbooks before the DS? Motion control before "Revolution" was said to have it?

Aren't they all in the commons? (1)

Hellcom (1041714) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062251)

Who would buy this when every one of those books is in the public domain. It's cheaper and better to use a homebrew app like Moonshell http://www.ds-xtra.com/MoonShell [ds-xtra.com] and download as many public domain works as you want from the Gutenberg project http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page [gutenberg.org] .

My own thoughts on the matter... (1)

Miracle Jones (976646) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062281)

The DS is a horrible, clunky interim device, but it is definitely closer to what I'd like to see than the Kindle or the Sony Ereader. I've penned a lengthy essay on the matter over at The Fiction Circus [fictioncircus.com] : The Dream You Hold: Four Metaphors for Books, Offered as Aid to the New Electronic Bookbinders [fictioncircus.com] You guys should read it and tell me what you think. What I am missing and what I've got right.

Re:My own thoughts on the matter... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26062789)

Yeah, fuck off.

More details... (2, Insightful)

kev-san (66245) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062305)

The article submitter (Miracle Jones) just posted a good article on this here [fictioncircus.com] .

Nintendo's New Business Model (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062391)

Before they kept selling the same titles over and over again (buy the classic NES games for the SNES, and then again for the GB, and now again on the Virtual Console!) and now they're selling public domain works.

In all fairness, I guess reissuing old games is better than letting them fade away into obscurity when most people don't have the old systems to legally play old games anymore.

I just wish Nintendo would focus more on new products. My N64 and Gamecube both gathered dust from not enough quality releases, and my Wii is likely to do the same.

Ugh, more propietary formats (2, Informative)

Thaelon (250687) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062525)

Is anyone else sick of proprietary ebook formats?

I have an N810 that I bought primarily for an ebook reader since it runs it runs Linux, the theory behind my purchase was someone out there had or would probably would create something that could read most formats, or I could find converters that could convert many things to some format it could read.

And then Amazon released the kindle with it's ultra-proprietary ultra-PITA format. There's mobi, Microsoft's format, and I'm sure Sony has something since they have a reader, and Sony is the biggest proponent of proprietary formats ever.

My personally preferred format is OEB [openebook.org] which is really just html with an xml document specifying book information. That FB reader that my N810 uses renders beautifully and pre-populates author/title information for me.

Does anyone know of a converter for some of the DRMed proprietary formats that convert to OEB? I have Linux (Ubuntu) and windows available to run things on.

Re:Ugh, more propietary formats (1)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062911)

According to wikipedia, the Kindle supports a variety of non-DRMed formats. [wikipedia.org] Wikipedia doesn't have any info on the N810. Going off only my memory (and gut), most of the ebook readers I've seen do support non-DRMed formats. I think that the problem is with publishers.

Re:Ugh, more propietary formats (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063025)

Baen books offers non-DRM sci-fi e-books (including many free ones). I've been reading the 1632 series on my Nokia 770 tablet. Michael McCollum offers his books (Gibralter Earth, etc.) at his site (http://www.scifi-az.com/) without DRM.

Objection! (2, Informative)

arugulatarsus (1167251) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062585)

I thought the DS had a lot of interactive books already available. Namely all of the Phoenix Wright series.

How to get & convert AZWs (1)

Thaelon (250687) | more than 5 years ago | (#26062699)

I would purchase virtually every book I read from Amazon if I could get it in a format my Nokia N810 can read, but they're determined to lock you into their Kindle, it's pay to play service, and it's proprietary AZW format.

Does anyone know how to get your purchased kindle books other than wireless delivery, and also, how to convert them (preferably to OEB)?

I haven't tried yet, but I'm not even sure they'll let me buy an ebook if I don't have a kindle I can tie to my Amazon account for them to send it to.

Re:How to get & convert AZWs (1)

susan16321 (999562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063295)

Kindle books are only readable on a Kindle. There is no legal way to convert them. You can buy books from other places, like Fictionwise.com and Baen Books (www.webscription.net) in an open Mobipocket format that is usable on a lot of smartphones. Don't get the Secure Mobipocket ones unless you're sure your phone can read them; they have DRM specific to a device.

mixed message (1)

Dzimas (547818) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063005)

Selling an RSA encrypted cart containing a collection of books in the public domain is hypocrisy at its best. I concur with some of the others in this thread who recommend loading ebooks onto flash cards; I actually bought a handful of DSTT cards from DealExtreme for under $7 each, shipped. I loaded 'em up with a couple of dozen homebrew titles - including the moonshell video player (with an assortment of PD cartoons and short films) and an ebook app. My friends and family will be getting one, as an example of how the DS is a great homebrew platform. Much more fun than a gift card or dvd.

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Tag "dumbestfuckingidea" (1)

RockMFR (1022315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063097)

The DS is awkward to hold, even more so when it's on its side. The screens hold only a small amount of text. Books are FREE to read at a library, and they don't require electricity!

Will they have "David Coperfield?" (1)

kiddailey (165202) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063335)

Will they have "David Coperfield?"

That's "David Coperfield" with one P, by Edmund Wells.

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