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An Open Source Coffee Machine

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the quite-entirely-unlike-tea dept.

Hardware Hacking 99

An anonymous reader writes "The Open Source Coffee Machine [video link] is a recycled coffee machine, controlled by a PC running Beremiz, and using some MicroMod CANopen I/O nodes from Peak-System. This machine have been prepared by Peak-System and Lolitech for SCS-Paris-08 exhibition. It served free coffee during four days at Peak-System's booth, and has been donated to IUT of Saint-Dié-des-Vosges, France, so that students can have fun practicing automation."

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Gratis (5, Funny)

rlp (11898) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063929)

Free as in coffee?

Repruhsent the Coffee Drinkin Players (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26063947)

Tweeked out Clique

You know how we do.

Huh (5, Funny)

illumastorm (172101) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063975)

I thought a open source coffee maker would be running on Java

Re:Huh (4, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064011)

Yeah, and imagine a beowulf cluster of those! I'd be up for months!

Re:Huh (2, Funny)

dubbreak (623656) | more than 5 years ago | (#26068195)

Imagine Natalie Portman on a beowulf cluster of those.

She'd be naked, petrified and trembling!

Now all they need to do is design an open source hot grits machine to compliment it.

Re:Huh (1)

Talderas (1212466) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064215)

Did anyone else read the message and think "Open Source Coffin Machine"?

Re:Huh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064703)

no

Re:Huh (0)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065911)

No..but, I did notice that those were awfully small cups of coffee...small cups that weren't even very full.

Re:Huh (3, Funny)

nospam007 (722110) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066893)

"No..but, I did notice that those were awfully small cups of coffee...small cups that weren't even very full."

It's open source, you can change that.;-)

Re:Huh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064713)

Did anyone else read the message and think "Open Source Coffin Machine"?

And why not? We're going to need quite a few of these to clean up the mess the Kill Bots are making.

Re:Huh (2, Informative)

zeromorph (1009305) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065069)

I thought a open source coffee maker would be running on Java

NetBSD, NetBSD - like your toaster [slashdot.org] ...

Redundant (1)

philspear (1142299) | more than 5 years ago | (#26063997)

I'm pretty sure "push button on Mr. Coffee" is open source already.

Re:Redundant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064103)

It isn't even a "coffee machine" it is a drink dispenser. Leave it to the French to build something this complicated that really only takes on chip.

Re:Redundant (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064301)

It isn't even a "coffee machine" it is a drink dispenser. Leave it to the French to build something this complicated

You've clearly never seen one of these [myflavia.com] .

We got them in our office this year. When one broke down (after two days) they had two technicians in working on it for half a day until they just replaced it. When it was open, it had a ridiculous amount of stuff which looks more like it belongs inside of a computer than a coffee maker. It really is a ridiculously over-engineered thing, and it uses coffee in single-pack mylar bags with lots of plastic and other junk.

Never underestimate how much complexity and cost people will put into the pursuit of coffee.

Heck, go price a good quality espresso machine -- it'll set you back more than a big screen TV!!

Cheers

Re:Redundant (1)

interploy (1387145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065313)

Never underestimate how much complexity and cost people will put into the pursuit of coffee.

Which I find very strange, since some of the best coffee comes out of one of the simplest devices, a coffee percolator [wikipedia.org] . Or for you espresso lovers, the Moka Pot [wikipedia.org] .

There's some engineering axiom about this which I can't think of now, but it basically boils down to Occam's Razor: All things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the best.

Re:Redundant (1)

freemywrld (821105) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065743)

I believe you are looking for KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid.

Re:Redundant (1)

fugue (4373) | more than 5 years ago | (#26067437)

I like how the first five bullet points are about the styling.

Re:Redundant (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071393)

It really is a ridiculously over-engineered thing, and it uses coffee in single-pack mylar bags with lots of plastic and other junk.

Those types of coffee machine are much more profitable than ones that take coffee beans and grind them because the supplies are single source.

Re:Redundant (1)

Meski (774546) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071553)

Automatic coffee machines produce quite bad coffee[1]. If you're prepared to do a bit of work getting grind/dose/tamp set up, you'll get a much better cup. Also, eschew any espresso maker that says it uses a thermoblock. Rancilio Silvia is a good machine.
[1] they get temperature, shot size, dose grind and tamp wrong. And they are extremely hard to clean.

LoLi (3, Funny)

AkaKaryuu (1062882) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064007)

I think editing the name of LoLiTech would be beneficial for such people who read that as "Loli-tech".

I for one was extremely confused.

Re:LoLi (0)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064029)

I can haz free koffi?

Re:LoLi (1, Informative)

Warll (1211492) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064069)

Um, no thats lol-cat, loli, well thats differnt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon [wikipedia.org]

Re:LoLi (5, Informative)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064199)

Thanks for the NSFW tag there. Much appreciated. Now when I'm asked why I was checking out that page on wikipedia, I'll have to explain what slashdot is, what an open source coffee maker is, what a lolcat is, and what icanhascheezburger.com is to justify why I went there on company time. Should be fun.

Re:LoLi (4, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064541)

Thanks for the NSFW tag there. Much appreciated. Now when I'm asked why I was checking out that page on wikipedia, I'll have to explain what slashdot is, what an open source coffee maker is, what a lolcat is, and what icanhascheezburger.com is to justify why I went there on company time. Should be fun.

Oodaloop's boss: I am interested in your newsletter concerning those topics and would like to learn more.

Re:LoLi (4, Funny)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064693)

Oodaloop's boss's boss [icanhascheezburger.com] : This is relevant to my interests.

Re:LoLi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064601)

Are you saying that you only have to justify wasting company time by clicking on a NSFW link? What about the company time spent just reading and posting on slashdot? There's a less of a legal liability, but it's just as much wasted as looking at porn, isn't it?

Re:LoLi (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064635)

What are you talking about?

Nothing NSFW in that link. Unless Wikipedia has a rotating image in the upper right corner, all I saw was a bunch of kids in poofy "granny" undies. Looked like late 19th, early 20th century bathing suits. About as UNsexy as you can get. What in the world was NSFW about that?

Re:LoLi (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064757)

What in the world was NSFW about that?

You might not have a problem with it, but many others may. Especially in the overly-sensitive corporate world.

Re:LoLi (1)

Ragzouken (943900) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065353)

You're trying to browse the internet without seeing something that might offend someone? You must be new here.

Re:LoLi (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065345)

Boss may think you are now a pedo. Not safe for your life position more than anything.

Re:LoLi (0, Offtopic)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066737)

Well, I took the safe bet and browsed the article using an encrypted Tor connection.

Boss ain't gonna know JACK about that article.

Re:LoLi (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064785)

That's simple..

A popup appeared and I clicked on it. Then I started clicking on everything I could see. That's what you are supposed to do right? Click on everything?

Oh and what did it mean when It asked to install SmitFraud and Weatherbug?

Re:LoLi (1)

i7dude (473077) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066885)

why would you click on a link you know nothing about at work? doubly so when you know your workplace monitors your internet usage?

making the excuse that you "assumed" the link was safe because they didn't explicitly say NSFW is also incorrect so please do not include that in your answer.

dude.

Re:LoLi (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26075501)

I wouldn't get very far on the internet if I only clicked on links marked SFW, would I? Pretty much rules out every link on every page I would ever go to.

Re:LoLi (1)

i7dude (473077) | more than 5 years ago | (#26077039)

ok. that didn't address my question. i'll try again posing it in a different way.

1. you know that your employer monitors your internet usage.
2. you saw a link on slashdot; wanted to click on said link but were not sure of its contents.
3. you chose to click on the link anyway.
4. the contents of the page were questionable in your eyes.
5. you posted on slashdot sarcastically thanking the parent (ie. bitching) that you'd have to answer to your employer as to the contents of the link in question.

given these events. why is it the fault of somebody else that you will have to answer for your actions?

dude.

Re:LoLi (1)

ion.simon.c (1183967) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066965)

*snerk*

This is the best thing that I've read all day! Thanks for the laughs!

Re:LoLi (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071409)

Well if you get fired, at least you'll have more time to spend on /b/

Re:LoLi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064521)

demands at least one of the tags: dfc, deliciousloli, deliciousflatloli, lolihaetcoffee, freeasinloli

Re:LoLi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064779)

dfc

delicious free coffee?

Re:LoLi (1)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 5 years ago | (#26068633)

Coffee and some Delicious cake? Sure sign me up.

Firewalled (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064125)

I'm at work and can't access the site, and TFA is mighty short on details. Coffee makers are pretty generic for the most part, and have been around long enough that any patents on their tech would have long ago run out.

And coffee makers are decidedly low tech, even moreso than the old fashioned percolators that you can brew coffee on a stovetop or camp fire with. It's simply a heating element that heats the water which runs through the coffee.

So would someone with access to the site please tell me what I'm missing? Thanks.

Re:Firewalled (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064201)

This isn't a coffee pot, it's a bit machine with a touch-screen LCD (with only 1 button on the screen, apparently) that has tubes and containers and fills a single cup half full at a time.

What you're missing here is that this is just some geeky project that nobody cares about except the creators.

Re:Firewalled (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064365)

What you're missing here is that this is just some geeky project that nobody cares about except the creators.

Gee, geeks put ridiculous amount of technology into the problem of making a cup of coffee. Film at 11.

I mean, when web cams first came out, people were putting them next to coffee machines [cam.ac.uk] to be able to know if there's a pot on.

This isn't exactly a new phenomenon. :-P

Cheers

Re:Firewalled (1)

Meski (774546) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071581)

Could be that the person wanted a shot of espresso. 25ml will look half full for must cups.

Re:Firewalled (2, Interesting)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064257)

You are missing me trying to figure out what is open about it. I get Beremiz but the software on the Peak-System doesn't appear to be, at least not all of it. I think maybe the firmware for the IO modules is but I'm not positive.

As for the machine itself, it is more along the lines of a commercial coffee vending machine. Touch a screeen to, I assume, pick the drink you want, and a PC, via IO boards, starts and stops the appropriate field devices to fill the cup.

It would be nice to see some openness come to industrial level automation. Allen Bradley needs to be punished for charging people $200 for a null modem cable.

Re:Firewalled (1)

johnjaydk (584895) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065615)

Easy there. A good deal of the fieldbuses in use these days are actually open standards. Especially the successful ones. Ethernet/IP and BACnet are good examples. I have participated in some of this standards work myself and You don't even need an invite! That's fairly open IMNSHO.

I do find it puzzling why You would want a null modem cable for CANopen since it runs on EIA-485 (also know as RS-485).

Re:Firewalled (1)

Hijacked Public (999535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065811)

Many of them are, I'll add Profibus, but Allen Bradley is very popular in the US and they are still selling a lot of proprietary IO.

I don't want a null modem cable at the moment, but if it was 1998 and I wanted to connect my PC's serial port to a SLC5/03 I'd need a null modem cable, only Allen Bradley didn't call it a null modem cable they called it a 1747-CP3 and they wanted something like $200 for it.

I recall carrying around pinout diagrams for half the cables in their catalog just in case I ever ran into something new.

Re:Firewalled (5, Funny)

shivamib (1034310) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064279)

So would someone with access to the site please tell me what I'm missing? Thanks.

TFA is a video showing an attempt at building a Nutrimatic dispenser to produce a cup of coffea. Instead, it invariably produces a concotion that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike coffee.

Not really my cup of tea.

Re:Firewalled (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065051)

Maybe if you took the time to explain how coffee is grown, how it is hand picked and roasted, etc. you would get the perfect cup of coffee from it.

Why? (5, Funny)

Jabbrwokk (1015725) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064171)

Really, why? It's simple. Open machine. Put in coffee and water. Flip switch. Wait. Enjoy. Why build a convoluted contraption to do something so simple? I know that's not the slashdot way, but c'mon. What's next? An open-source potato peeler that allows you root access to your root vegetables?

Re:Why? (1)

slashdotmsiriv (922939) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064255)

"why build a convoluted contraption to do something so simple?"

Cause you can!

Re:Why? (2, Funny)

jpyeck (1368075) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064655)

This is the Killer-App we've been waiting for to justify IPv6!

Re:Why? (2, Insightful)

ChrisA90278 (905188) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065213)

It's not the home type machine. This looks more like the vending machine that you see in a public place where you put in money and select the type of coffee. the machine dispences a paper cup and then makes one cup of coffee, trea, hot chocolate or whatver.

The real purpose of the machine is to reach people how to write software that controls machines. it purposly uses some interface that are used on factory floors

They could have used as a teaching device a machine that bends tubing to make automotive or aircraft parts but then you have to teach the students not only how to program but about tube bending machines. Coffee they already understand so you can get right into teaching programming.

Re:Why? (1)

david duncan scott (206421) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071341)

Well, that, and Bender would have told them to "bite his shiny metal ass" and they wouldn't have learned much of anything.

Re:Why? (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065727)

An open source potato peeler would be awesome if I could just pull some potatoes out of a bag and put them in a chute and forget about it. No sense getting your hands dirty peeling taters.

Also, the coffee machine should be piped into the water system so all I need to do is add coffee. If I can somehow skip the shopping for coffee, putting it in the chute part and actually having to press a button, then I'd be even more pleased. I just want to wake up and drink my coffee. The same applies to cereal (or oatmeal), my glass of milk and the TV.

Then again, I'm a geek because it feeds and supports my inner laziness.

Re:Why? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065881)

An open source potato peeler would be awesome if I could just pull some potatoes out of a bag and put them in a chute and forget about it. No sense getting your hands dirty peeling taters.

Why peel potatos? The peels are delicious, and that's where most of the vitamins are. Just pop out the eyes, chop, and cook.

Re:Why? (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#26067467)

I never said anything about throwing them out. ;) In fact, I used to steal the peels out of my Mom's strainer when she would peel the potatoes for mashing.

Re:Why? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 5 years ago | (#26096953)

that's where most of the vitamins are

And pesticides. Potatoes are cleverly disguised (and delicious) junk food anyway (they turn to sugar in your stomach), no need to eat them for vitamins.

Sweet potatoes, though. Those are good eats.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26066803)

Indeed. This just looks like any coffee machine, but with its guts on the outside and probably custom "open" interfacing. Why do this? "Because I can" is not a good reason to build this, imho, because you know you can. It's just an interfacing exercise with little added value, imho.

Re:Why? (1)

MadMidnightBomber (894759) | more than 5 years ago | (#26072969)

Look, along with porn, coffee machines have been driving our network tech for some time: Trojan Room Coffee Pot [cam.ac.uk] .

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26076301)

My grandfather was Rube Goldberg you insensitive clod!

Caffine-Related Tech (2, Interesting)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064183)

Reminds me of the world's first webcam [cam.ac.uk] at Cambridge University.

Is it BSD or GPL? (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064185)

If GPL, I'm not sure they want the modified source my body expels after drinking...

Finally... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064253)

Open Source will take over the business Desktop..

Well... (2, Interesting)

Timosch (1212482) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064261)

...does it support HTCPCP [wikipedia.org] ?

That's one heck of a feedback loop... (3, Funny)

gillbates (106458) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064291)

A machine which automatically makes coffee, which powers the programmers who write the code for a machine which automatically makes coffee...

Re:That's one heck of a feedback loop... (1)

shivamib (1034310) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064395)

A machine which automatically makes coffee, which powers the programmers who write the code for a machine which automatically makes coffee...

Now, if only the programmer could automatically generate coffee for the machine... I'm sure it would involve cats and toasts.

Re:That's one heck of a feedback loop... (1)

Maajid (922035) | more than 5 years ago | (#26067675)

I can see someone finding a causal link to free energy in this.

Not truly open source (2, Funny)

sunderland56 (621843) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064373)

Cue the FSF complaining about the beans being proprietary in 3... 2... 1...

Re:Not truly open source (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064555)

Coffee beans aren't proprietary. Unless, of course, they've bben genetically engineered by Monsanto. AFAIK all coffee beans are free (as in speech).

Maybe not proprietary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26066015)

We have the source for water. That is no problem. The beans though, while not proprietary are more like a poorly documented perl script all written on one line. Would be tough to recreate them in the lab from freely available molecules.

Magic Steps (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064443)

1) Make Automatic Coffee Maker
2) Push Button
3) Drink Coffee
4) ????
5) HYPER!!!!!!

Can it run on HTCPCP/1.0? (1)

sexybomber (740588) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064457)

In other words, the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol [ietf.org] ?

Re:Can it run on HTCPCP/1.0? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064603)

Yes. But for some reason it intermittently throws "ERROR: 418 I'm a teapot."

Re:Can it run on HTCPCP/1.0? (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065793)

"RFC 2324 HTCPCP/1.0 1 April 1998

      Putting coffee grounds into Internet plumbing may result in clogged
      plumbing, which would entail the services of an Internet Plumber
      [PLUMB], who would, in turn, require an Internet Plumber's Helper."

I KNEW it! The Internet Is a bunch of tubes! He was right!

OMG! WFT! The bastards!

Recycled coffee (1)

drgould (24404) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064461)

Yum.

Re:Recycled coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26064857)

Best space station technology can produce....

Will it be compliant to the rfc? (4, Funny)

bigredradio (631970) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064571)

Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0)
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt [ietf.org]

Re:Will it be compliant to the rfc? (3, Informative)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065135)

Wow, I haven't read this thing in ages, but this protocol is HORRIBLY restrictive. No thought was given to extensibility at all. The coffee pot should really respond to an incoming request responding with a freeform list of supported modifiers, so the client can have processing to resolve compatibility issues. No worry about being restricted a mere 4 types of alcohol or any such silliness. IETF usually comes up with better designed protocols than this...I guess they didn't have enough coffee or something.

Re:Will it be compliant to the rfc? (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065361)

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

That's the sound of a freight train of a joke.

RFC 2324 (1)

russlar (1122455) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064589)

RFC 2324 [faqs.org] dealt with just this sort of thing.

For Some Reason... (2, Funny)

jlf278 (1022347) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064631)

my mod for brewing better hot coffee has already been downloaded over 1 million times

Recycled coffee? (3, Funny)

operagost (62405) | more than 5 years ago | (#26064969)

"Recycled coffee?" Where I come from, that's called "pee pee."

Oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26065171)

Lolitech != Logitech, my bad.

You missed the point (1)

luca (6883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065221)

This isn't about coffee.
It's about industrial automation, specifically replacing PLCs (programmable logic controllers), programmed with horrible languages (think assembler but more cumbersome and interpreted), with PCs running an open source version of those same horrible languages.
Since, among other things, I program PLCs for a living, I'd love replacing them altogether with PC based controls (the customers don't usually want to, due to the perceived reliability of PLCs), though I don't see the point of using the same shitty languages.
Heck, 20 years ago I programmed machines in pascal, and it was a lot more convenient (think maintainability and code reuse) than lad/cfs/stl.

Translucent? (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065257)

Seeing this makes me want a coffee machine which has translucent or transparent sides so that you can see what it is doing inside. That would be a step closer to the Geek's dream coffee maker.

Coffee??? TEA!! (1)

coolate (1173457) | more than 5 years ago | (#26065379)

Forget an open source coffee maker, I want an open source tea maker!!

Nutri-Matic anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26066405)

Just don't ask it to make tea.

What about Open Standards? (1)

Bazman (4849) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066531)

Does it use the ESE Open Standard Coffee Pods though?

http://www.1stincoffee.com/illy-pods.htm [1stincoffee.com]

ho hum (1)

MooseTick (895855) | more than 5 years ago | (#26066723)

Call me when they open source a milkshake machine.

Coffee HOWTO @ tldp.org (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26066897)

Open source and coffee making have been around for years...just check out the HOWTO over at the Linux Documentation Project:

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html [tldp.org]

Beremiz (1)

edbob (960004) | more than 5 years ago | (#26067027)

I have been looking for something like Beremiz for some time. I work with PLC's and vendor lock-in is a huge problem (IMO much greater than Windows on the PC). Although a standard (IEC 61131) exists, each vendor has its own extensions and interpretations that make it impossible to port code between products. My hat's off to these guys!

Re:Beremiz (1)

ahfoo (223186) | more than 5 years ago | (#26074095)

Yeah, I was impressed as well. I don't work in PLC, but I sure hope to design some low cost and open automated hardware at some point. I do hang out in some related forums.

For anybody interested in learning more about programmable logic controllers you might want to try

http://www.control.com/ [control.com]

Which looks like it uses an older version of Slashcode.

or

http://www.plctalk.net/ [plctalk.net]

There is also a nice intro tutorial on ladder logic and PLCs in general under the "PLC Basics" sidebar at

http://www.plcdev.com/ [plcdev.com]

So while I've got no hands-on experience, I've lurked around those sites for a few years and I have to echo what EdBob is saying. PLCs are hurtin for some open solutions and this project looks awesome because it integrates CAN Bus as well and that's going in widespread in the automotive sector which means economies of scale.

Very interesting story indeed. Glad I got away from Reddit for a minute to check on ol' Slashdot.

What I Want to Know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26067247)

... is can I finally use Emacs for making coffee?

It ONLY makes coffee? (1)

JakartaDean (834076) | more than 5 years ago | (#26068045)

Check out the Pomegranate [www.pomegranatephone] , which can also be used as a cell phone.

I can't wait to get me one of those.

I've seen this before... (1)

acb (2797) | more than 5 years ago | (#26068433)

This looks like a modern version of the Commocoffee 64 [null.org] .

Open Source Java! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26068939)

See, all of those years of whining, we now all get an open source Java!

Taking technology serious (1)

jandersen (462034) | more than 5 years ago | (#26071547)

A computerised coffeemaker? I know there is a trend to put computers into everything from toilet paper to toothpaste, but just how far will it be pushed before somebody spots the utter idiocy of it?

I suppose it is harmless enough as such, but I can't help thinking that we should try taking the whole issue of technology and what we use it for just a little bit more serious. Then again, this kind of thing will probably die out in todays economical conditions, leaving the world slightly better.

I am not attacking the idea that somebody takes an existing gadget with a computer in it and gets it to run Linux - playing is a healthy thing and the best way to learn. It is the use of technology to solve non-existing problems and making complicated gadgets to perform trivial tasks; what could possibly be the purpose of it? Other than the entirely unworthy one of making people feel helpless in the face of simple, everyday tasks, such as cooking food or turning on your windscreen wipers (now, apparently, some cars detect the rain for you so you don't have to move your finger and flip a switch). It is the kind of thing that doesn't do the least bit to help people's lives, but which means that people will feel compelled to buy ready-made meals or little capsules of crappy coffee for their coffee maker at massively greater expense. Just another way of cheating you out of your hard earned cash.

Re: (1)

clint999 (1277046) | more than 5 years ago | (#26074419)

I'm at work and can't access the site, and TFA is mighty short on details. Coffee makers are pretty generic for the most part, and have been around long enough that any patents on their tech would have long ago run out.And coffee makers are decidedly low tech, even moreso than the old fashioned percolators that you can brew coffee on a stovetop or camp fire with. It's simply a heating element that heats the water which runs through the coffee.So would someone with access to the site please tell me what I'm

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