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Data Recovered From DVD Leads To Conviction, 24-Year Sentence

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the put-that-in-a-safe-place dept.

Data Storage 231

Lucas123 writes "The Santa Cruz, Calif. DA's office had been counting on a DVD with the recorded testimony of a victim in case against a serial rapist, but when they popped the video into the player, nothing came up — the disc was blank. To make matters worse, the cop who performed the original interview with the victim told the DA she never said she was 'forced,' so the judge wasn't going to allow the witness to testify in a case where her original statement to police was in conflict with her current testimony. After two local data recovery firms said there was no way to restore the data, a third was able to recover the police interview from two years earlier, which led the defendant to plead guilty earlier this month. Close call."

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eep (5, Insightful)

dissy (172727) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099619)

Hardware: Recovered Data From a Corrupt DVD Leads To Conviction, 24-Year Sentence

Why did my mind instantly jump to the conclusion that some data recovery tech worker did someone a favor, got sued by the MPAA, and got a 24-year sentence...

Re:eep (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099741)

Maybe it's because you are a fucktard who should go and slit your fucking wrists.

GO AHEAD FUCKING FLAME AWAY!!!

Re:eep (4, Interesting)

lysergic.acid (845423) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099751)

i was thinking in the same direction too. but when i read this part of the summary:

but when they popped the video into the player, nothing came up -- the disc was blank.

my immediate question was, "did they try a PAL player?"

what's interesting to me is that two "data recovery firms" told them that the data was unrecoverable, but Seagate Recovery Service was able to recover the data without a problem. that makes me wonder if the earlier data recovery firms even tried to diagnose the problem or if they even knew anything about digital media & data storage. perhaps they thought that just by buying some digital forensics or data recovery software that automatically qualifies them to run a data recovery service. though i'm guessing that's what most police departments do as well.

i guess that's the problem with buying off the shelf software to do your job rather than learning how things work for yourself.

Re:eep (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099847)

my immediate question was, "did they try a PAL player?"

I seriously doubt that a police department in Santa Cruz would have recorded it on a PAL device or have a PAL DVD player available.

Re:eep (1)

frieko (855745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100147)

A PAL disc and a NTSC disc are identical, except for minor differences such as frame rate and resolution. A computer can play either format.

It sounds like the TOC was corrupted, in which case you could still get the data pretty easy by doing something along the lines of cat /dev/dvd | mplayer -

Re:eep (3, Informative)

gregbot9000 (1293772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100689)

Or they could stick to the analog media that is near failure proof. They probably knew how it worked, it just probably didn't. Write error that wasn't detected, minor corruption in the disk, things that can't be planned for. After having lost 2 years worth of photos to two minor technical issues I'm starting to doubt this whole digital thing. A box of analog photos, while harder to share, is a lot less likely to fail then a hard drive.

Re:eep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099899)

Hardware: Recovered Data From a Corrupt DVD Leads To Conviction, 24-Year Sentence

Why did my mind instantly jump to the conclusion that some data recovery tech worker did someone a favor, got sued by the MPAA, and got a 24-year sentence...

Thats exactly what I thought from the Topic.

Re:eep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100131)

Hardware: Recovered Data From a Corrupt DVD Leads To Conviction, 24-Year Sentence

Why did my mind instantly jump to the conclusion that some data recovery tech worker did someone a favor, got sued by the MPAA, and got a 24-year sentence...

that's exactly what my mind did!

Re:eep (1, Flamebait)

Xanj (975765) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100373)

Hardware: Recovered Data From a Corrupt DVD Leads To Conviction, 24-Year Sentence

Why did my mind instantly jump to the conclusion that some data recovery tech worker did someone a favor, got sued by the MPAA, and got a 24-year sentence...

maybe cuz 99.9% of computer evidence is total bull

Only Meta-Data was damaged (5, Interesting)

imaginaryelf (862886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099627)

"Our analysis showed there to be damage to the lead-in section of the data," Keith Gnagey, vice president of professional services for i365, said in an e-mail statement about the recovery effort. That meant any attempt "with normal playing software would not be able to get past the beginning of the data."

That's like the directory tree being messed up but the data being intact.

I can't believe the other "two local data recovery firms" got stumped by this simple problem.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099665)

Maybe they are more into "recovery" than "troubleshooting."

Which just confirms my fear that they can't recovery shit in serious situation but just the normal stuff. I've been thinking if there was any idea to turn in my sisters laptop HDD (crash after laptop drop onto table) or not, but I guess not in most cases. Also it cost a fortune anyway.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099957)

Years ago I sent a hard drive into OnTrack that had been soaked in coffee by the owner of a company (spilled coffee in a Thinkpad laptop, the Thinkpad kept running like a champ, the drive died shortly thereafter). $1500 and 2 days later, we had DVDs with the content of the drive.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100003)

I suspect the replaced the logic board / moved the plates to another drive?

The problem is that I have no idea if the heads has slapped into the discs or something such, damage on the electronics would seem salvageable, damage on the actual disks less so =P

Also while she would probably want them back $1500 for 2 weeks of New Zeeland photos of which she still have some on a cd and some on paper + various other images for a half years worth or something such may be to much.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100053)

For personal stuff like that, I'd write it off and tell her to make backups in the future. MozyHome is $4.95/month for unlimited backups. A small price to pay.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (4, Insightful)

RiffRafff (234408) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099677)

I can't believe the other "two local data recovery firms" got stumped by this simple problem.

Really. I wonder what the names of those two firms are, so we'll know who NOT to go to.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1, Interesting)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100207)

I wonder if there's any people out there who intentionally corrupt an ISO image in a controlled way that is known to be recoverable by someone who knows what they are doing (but not perhaps by automated tools) and then sending out burns of the DVD to different companies to see what they can do.

Might be expensive though.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (5, Insightful)

the_womble (580291) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100329)

Maybe the headline should read "incompetent data recovery nearly lets rapist get away"

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (4, Insightful)

sith (15384) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099693)

Almost sounds like a DVD that wasn't finalized in a direct-to-dvd camcorder.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (4, Interesting)

Compholio (770966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099735)

Almost sounds like a DVD that wasn't finalized in a direct-to-dvd camcorder.

I don't know about that, but I've run into this problem when there's dust on the disk when it's recorded. The laser etches the dust rather than the media, resulting in a disk that's got a small blank section.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (5, Funny)

bigjarom (950328) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100019)

I'm interested to know how you came to this conclusion. Did you find the laser-etched dust particle on the finished disk?

Maybe you could send the dust to Seagate Recovery Service to get that blank section back.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (4, Informative)

Compholio (770966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100133)

I noticed after burning the disk that there was dust on the bottom (a lot of it concentrated in one spot). So, I blew it off and the part where the dust used to be was distinctly the "not burned" color. For shits and giggles I tried the disk anyway and there were a bunch of inaccessible files. Since I noticed it right away I just chucked the disk and made a new one (I was working with data on a PC). This happened quite a while ago, but if you're curious I could attempt to intentionally reproduce it.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

tylernt (581794) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100519)

I don't know if it was foreign matter or a manufacturing defect in the disc, but I had recorded DVD hanging on my wall at work that had a fuzzy blob of "not burned" on it too. So it's not a farfetched idea.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (2, Funny)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100059)

Maybe we should start recording DVDs at 16x. That amount of centrifugal force should fling any lose debris off. So I would think anyways...

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (3, Interesting)

noidentity (188756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100157)

I've run into this problem when there's dust on the disk when it's recorded. The laser etches the dust rather than the media, resulting in a disk that's got a small blank section.

You may have had that problem with dusty media, but the explanation sounds suspect. The laser beam is focused to a point inside the disc, not at the surface; at the surface, it's wide and dust simply reduces its intensity at the focused point (diagram [geekspeak.org]). Looks like BD discs have much less tolerance of dust, due to the data layer being so close to the surface.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

Compholio (770966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100569)

You may have had that problem with dusty media, but the explanation sounds suspect. The laser beam is focused to a point inside the disc, not at the surface; at the surface, it's wide and dust simply reduces its intensity at the focused point (diagram [geekspeak.org]). Looks like BD discs have much less tolerance of dust, due to the data layer being so close to the surface.

I'll grant that "etches" is an inappropriate description, "blocks the beam, slightly toasts the dust, and prevents data from being written to the disk" would be more accurate but is also much more verbose. "Wide" is relative, the dust on the disk was much larger than the beam waist. I'm not saying this happened with a tiny speck of dust - more like a big fat sharpie-stroke of dust.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

danamania (540950) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100633)

And it's not a problem when that happens. The blank section is error-corrected around, and the disc works fine.

Here's one I did [danamania.com], with a huge oily fingerprint purposely put on a DVD before recording, it was burned, and the 'shadow' of the fingerprint shows up as a huge unburnt patch after the original print has been wiped off.

The disc worked fine afterwards, and worked fine for quite a while until I lost it.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

Compholio (770966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100849)

I was transferring large data sets to the disk, not making a video DVD. I would expect the MPEG-2 error-correction to take care of a minor blemish, raw data files not so much. I bet if you made a mark with a sharpie about half the length of that fingerprint, cleaned it off after recording the disk, and then tried to play it then your player would get completely stuck when it got to that point on the disk.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

danamania (540950) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100983)

Same - recording data-only to the disk, and the error correction worked OK there.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (4, Interesting)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26101057)

Actually that makes me think of a hair brained scheme. The finger print is essentially a mask applied to the data. Your eyes can see it but the DVD drive error corrects it away because there are enough gaps in the mask where the original data 'shows through' for the error correction to correct away the errors.

Now it seems like if you could record raw data you could make a DVD with a pattern visible to the naked eye but invisible to the DVD reader. So rather than waiting ages and buying expensive media for things like Lightscribe or Labelflash you could burn both the data and the label at the same time and on any media. Unlike DiscT@2 which burned logos on the data side of the disk, the space can be used for both logo and data at the same time.

You could do it with arbitrary bitmaps too - take the bitmap and make holes in it through which enough data shows through to make the disk readable. The burning software could do this with a mask cunningly constructed to make enough holes even in a solid bitmap to make the disk readable. Hell you could let the user select the tradeoff between image quality and error margin.

There's a a downside of course, the more solid the image the more the error correction will be stressed even for a disc which can be read perfectly. It seems like a disc burned with this technology would be less resistant to scratches and fingerprints.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100183)

that happened to me once, I run sound at my church and record sermons on cd. forgot to finalize one. The next week the secretary was confused why it appeared to be blank on her pc. I slapped it in the cd recording deck, which recognized it as an unfinalized cd. I finalized it and it worked fine then.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

blue l0g1c (1007517) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099793)

I bet they still got paid for their efforts, which is probably enough for them.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099843)

I bet they still got paid for their efforts, which is probably enough for them.

I doubt it. The two times my company needed to use a data service to recover data from dead hard disks, it was pay for play. If they didn't get any data back, they didn't get paid.

It cost about $1000 each time.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (2, Informative)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100923)

I know with Drivesavers you pay an analysis fee upfront, if they can't recover anything they refund it, if they can they will apply it to your recovery bill, if you choose not to pay for recovery they keep the fee to pay for the techs time. This is completely fair in my eyes as just getting to that stage may have involved swapping controllers or moving platters to a new enclosure.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (5, Interesting)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099857)

When my father owned a computer shop, he would regularly get people trying to sell him software that would let him do "data recovery". There was no way my father was qualified to do data recovery. He eventually focused only on printer repair because he found he wasn't really qualified to even do most PC work. That didn't stop the sales guys from trying to convince him that if he bought their software, he would do fine in the "data recovery" field.

So, it doesn't surprise me that two local data recovery firms got stumped. They probably ran the software they bought against the DVD and when nothing came up, they said it was unrecoverable.

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100219)

he found he wasn't really qualified to even do most PC work

Sorry to sound spiteful, but your father is clearly retarded.
Any moron can do PC repair work.
Posting anonymously because... well just how low should we let the barrier slip?

HOW was Only Meta-Data was damaged? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100089)

And, if the DVD was written correctly to begin with, how did JUST the "Directory tree" lead-in get messed up on the DVD?

The real (and more likely) reason?

Maybe someone forgot to hit Finalize after the dvdcam was done recording! The lead-in was never there!

"But it played fine when we watched it back in the camera... I don't know WHY it won't play in the player! It must be corrupted!"

Re:HOW was Only Meta-Data was damaged? (2, Insightful)

gregbot9000 (1293772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100725)

You know, I've recorded 100's of hours of material and I never had that problem. Maybe when peoples lives are on the line they should stick to more proven analog technology and let it be the family that loses their trip to Disneyland to test the waters of the new tech?

Re:HOW was Only Meta-Data was damaged? (4, Informative)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100759)

Probably, yeah. In the worst case, though, the disc might have gotten finalized incorrectly (e.g. using a bad optical drive), in which case even the original DVD burner might not play it....

The lead-in area (at least for the first session) is the innermost recordable portion of the media. If something went wrong in media fabrication, I'd expect that to be the second-most likely part to have problems, second only to the outer edge (which fails verification frequently in cheap media). So this could have been a media defect as well.

I'm not surprised the Seagate folks were able to recover the data. This pales compared with what the Seagate recovery folks deal with every day--head crashes, surface mount desoldering and replacing defective head preamps, maybe even electron microscope recovery of shattered platters.... Compared with that, a few bad blocks in the lead-in of a DVD is downright trivial and might even be recoverable without hacking the drive firmware....

That said, I sure would like to know who the two companies are that couldn't figure this out so I can never send anything to them.... :-)

Re:Only Meta-Data was damaged (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100889)

I can't believe the other "two local data recovery firms" got stumped by this simple problem.

Your average el-cheapo "data recovery" firm is stumped by anything their point-and-click canned software can't deal with.

optical media may not have been their specialty.

That third house wasn't ILM was it? (not a joke) (-1)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099661)

After two local data recovery firms said there was no way to restore the data, a third was able to recover the police interview from two years earlier, which led the defendant to plead guilty earlier this month. Close call.

in a day where a few people in their basement can render decent cgi, I'm wondering if this "third firm" was not hired to do a little "extraordinary rendering"

butcher of bakersfield anyone?

Re:That third house wasn't ILM was it? (not a joke (5, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099797)

in a day where a few people in their basement can render decent cgi, I'm wondering if this "third firm" was not hired to do a little "extraordinary rendering"

For best results, one should loosen their tin-foil hat occasionally.

Just sayin'.

Tinfoil hat eh? (3, Interesting)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099921)

in a day where a few people in their basement can render decent cgi, I'm wondering if this "third firm" was not hired to do a little "extraordinary rendering"

For best results, one should loosen their tin-foil hat occasionally.

Just sayin'.

Funny how everyone here is fully aware of the capabilities of our current state of technology in the hands of people with enough resources, yet when someone suggests an actual, real-world possibility for misuse, or the possibility of despotism it's "tinfoil hat" time.

I'm not saying they're doing it to me, or that they're in the walls, but seriously, have those lessons of the mccarthy and now bush eras gone straight out the other ear? I suppose GITMO doesn't exist? I suppose every single protestor is an "anarchist" just like the news says?

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (3, Insightful)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099963)

I think you overestimate the resources of the Santa Cruz police.
McCarthy? Bush? GITMO?? Seriously, Santa Cruz isn't exactly playing in that world.

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (2, Insightful)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100013)

I think you overestimate the resources of the Santa Cruz police.
McCarthy? Bush? GITMO?? Seriously, Santa Cruz isn't exactly playing in that world.

yes, because if such a job were to be done, it would be a federal prosecution and not delgated to a smaller, less significant branch.

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (4, Insightful)

jackbird (721605) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100161)

I think the GP overestimates the state of the art in 3D rendering and animation. I don't think any team anywhere could fake a video like that to the satisfaction of the people who were actually there. Much less do it in secret on a DA's budget.

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100491)

That does seem unlikely. Of course, the witness recorded on the DVD was the victim, so I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to re-enact testimony to suit purposes of conviction and then announce you'd recovered the data.

Of course, the odds of that having happened are negligible. Much more likely this is on the up and up.

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100531)

I think the GP overestimates the state of the art in 3D rendering and animation. I don't think any team anywhere could fake a video like that to the satisfaction of the people who were actually there. Much less do it in secret on a DA's budget.

They don't ave to convince the alleged rapist, just the jury. The suspect already has 2 strikes in the mind of the jury:
1) He's "the defendant"
2) He need s defense lawyer, clearly he's guilty.

You think the cops who get bonus points for the "collar" are going to worry about whether that's the real tape/recording/disk?

Some cops do bad shit. Let's say just 3% like the rest of the population. ~97% of the cops who see the other 3% breaking the law don't say anything.

The 97% that keep their mouths shut are the problem and they are the reason many of "we the people" don't trust cops. And I'm an upper middle class white guy. I'd hate to be a poor black guy near the scene of a crime...

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (1)

Dhalka226 (559740) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100897)

The man plead out after seeing the video. There was no jury, no trial, and the only ones convinced of anything was the criminal and perhaps his attorney -- convinced enough that they wouldn't be able to beat the charges based on this tape, if nothing else.

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (1)

gregbot9000 (1293772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100749)

OH MY GOD! That explains why the cops in the background were the same three guys just repeated! And why the interviewing officer wasn't looking at the suspect but a few feet over. That also explains why they were tolerating that annoying officer with the Jamaican accent!

Re:Tinfoil hat eh? (2, Funny)

Darth (29071) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100935)

Officer Binks was present in the courtroom. I assure you, he's real.

Why the hell is this in red? (-1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099675)

I did not find it either very interesting or very educational. Or very important.

I have no doubt 100 similar cases have happened, about which we never heard.

Re:Why the hell is this in red? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099785)

Fortunately you are not the one to decide these things. Your personal opinion counts for nothing.

He should have hid it in my COPIOUS TESTES!! (-1, Troll)

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Some of the saline is going to migrate into your cock. Your cock girth is going to become much larger than you have ever experienced.

AFTER YOU DISCONNECT FROM THE SALINE BAG, SIT AND WITH "SUPER GLUE", YES SUPER GLUE ON HAND, WITHDRAW THE CATHETER SHEATH.
AND WITH A TOWEL, PLACE SOME PRESSURE OVER THE HOLE THE NEEDLE CREATED......YOU MAY HAVE SOME BLOOD OR BLOOD MIXED WITH SALINE TRYING TO EXIT YOUR SAC! THEREFORE THE TOWELS

DON'T WORRY KEEP PRESSURE OVER AND DOWN ONTO THE HOLE FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO LET THINGS REST AND ANY BLOOD COAGULATE.

REMOVE THE "PRESSURE" TOWEL AND WITH SUPER GLUE, PLACE A FEW DROPS ON THE HOLE TO HOPEFULLY SEAL IT UP QUICKLY. KEEP THE COCK RING OR EQUIVALENT ON DURING THIS AND CONTINE TO LUBE YOUR SAC.

IF ALL IS GOING VERY WELL, IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES, YOUR SAC AND THE HOLE IS SEALED AND YOU ARE DONE.

IF ALL THINGS ARE NOT GOING WELL, YOU MIGHT NOT GET A GOOD SEAL THE FIRST TIME JUST PEAL OFF THE SUPER GLUE RESIDUE AND START OVER.

At first your sac will be very tight,but over the next few hours or over night, keeping the cock ring on less tightly or without a cock ring your sac will relax and begin to stretch.

The saline will take a couple of days or more to absorb into you body. That is okay,Saline is sterile water adjusted to normal body PH.

Enjoy it, flaunt it if you are inclined, watch the perm stretch and sac tissue growth that happens over time.

You will need to p a little more often than regular as the saline absorbs into your body, but just enjoy the weight and feel of what is between your legs.

I hope this helps....If your nuts and sac are normally pretty big or even small and you want more, this will blow you away with the results.

Take care

how much did that cost? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099715)

That's great and all but I kinda wonder how much taxpayer money it took to recover the thing when an old school magnetic tape would've done the job with a lot less fuss.

The data isn't gone until.... (-1, Offtopic)

banbeans (122547) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099739)

ontrack says it is gone

http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/

They only failed me once and that was because a head crash took out the part of the physical disk the file was on that my client needed recovered most.

protecting your data (2, Interesting)

sakura the mc (795726) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099809)

a couple questions spring to mind.

what is the best way to "erase" your data on optical media?

toss em into a fire and let them melt? lets see them recover that smoldering mess.

then, what to replace your optical media with?

i can only carry so many usb sticks. isnt data recovery from formatted solid state drives extremely time-consuming, if not difficult?

with the advent of cheap and high capacity hard drives, i have not burnt anything to an optical medium in maybe 2 - 3 years? there is simply no need. i would like to continue this pattern, but i want my data to be quickly and easily disposed of if need be.

Re:protecting your data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099885)

Shredder. They are cheap and make sharp bits of confetti. Noisy though.

Re:protecting your data (2, Funny)

gnick (1211984) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100421)

For residential destruction, most people already have a microwave and don't feel like sinking $$ into a CD-capable shredder.

Plus, it looks cool and only takes ~3 seconds.

Re:protecting your data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100793)

Microwaving them stinks though, and can be messy. Paper shredder is useful for paper, credit cards, and optical disks, so it's not a bad investment for getting rid of stuff. Decent ones are kind of pricey though.

Re:protecting your data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099923)

1. Shred them.
2. Burn them.
3. Mix them with concrete.
4. Blow up the concrete.
5. ???
6. Profit!

I'm pretty sure 5 is "nuke the debris from orbit" but someone more versed than I should probably clarify.

Re:protecting your data (3, Informative)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100011)

We shred DVDs. It's a consumer-level shredder. It cuts the disc all to hell and is even pretty thorough at removing the medium from the substrate, or whatever the nomenclature is.
There are consumer shredders that will do discs, but ours was definitely not cheap. A GBC Shredmaster "DOD" model. (We're not a defense shop, we're a research hospital/medical college, among other things.)

Re:protecting your data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100977)

Spin the disc at a high rate of rotation inside a shielded area.

Simple...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26099869)

Just upload them all to Youtube and it'll never happen again.

So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (0, Troll)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099969)

...After two local data recovery firms said there was no way to restore the data, a third was able to recover the police interview from two years earlier, which led the defendant to plead guilty earlier this month. Close call..."

So this stuff happens in the first world? While I am shocked, I am not that surprised at all. We as a nation have been "sinking" fast.

From our auto industry's junk products, to corruption (Haliburton), nepotism and incompetence (Katrina), among our elected officials, it's been downhill for a long time.

So just tell me...how is different would this story be if it happened in the 3rd world?

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (2)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100069)

I'm curious, but are you insane?

Is the answer to your question: They wouldn't use DVDs?

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (3, Insightful)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100139)

And you think DVDs are a big deal? Think again. On healthcare for example, we are beaten by Cuba!

I guess you are among those who do not believe that some of these so called 3rd world countries are *slightly* ahead of us especially in what a cellphone can be used for. Now, that's a fact.

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100295)

I guess you are among those who do not believe that some of these so called 3rd world countries are *slightly* ahead of us especially in what a cellphone can be used for.

Call me crazy... I typically use it for telephone calls. If there's some hidden Goatse use that I'm unaware of, then ignorance is bliss!

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100547)

Maybe he's just fishing for a Soviet Russia joke? I'm sure someone will come along shortly and chime in...

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (1)

gregbot9000 (1293772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100825)

I guess you are among those who do not believe that some of these so called 3rd world countries are *slightly* ahead of us especially in what a cellphone can be used for.

You mean like in bombs as the trigger device? I know they do that a lot in some third world countries.

BTW adding more features to a cellphone could actually be a further sign of poverty. In a developed country people buy a PDA and a cell phone, they don't need to save money by getting a super cell. Though they do that now with the Smart phones, which are as good, and available in the US, as any cell phones in the world.

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (0, Troll)

Faylone (880739) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100173)

In the 3rd world, they would have just had an execution, no interrogation.

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (1)

scottblascocomposer (697248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100185)

While I am shocked, I am not that surprised at all.

...and I am puzzled as to how that works out!

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (4, Funny)

gnick (1211984) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100445)

While I am shocked, I am not that surprised at all.

...and I am puzzled as to how that works out!

It's easy:
1) Turn on a lamp.
2) Remove the light bulb.
3) With your left-hand forefinger, touch the silver-colored outer shielding where the light bulb screws in.
4) With your right-hand forefinger, touch the contact at the bottom of the receptacle.

Sorry, no "???" nor "profit", but you'll be shocked without being surprised. Hope that helps.

=)

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100335)

...After two local data recovery firms said there was no way to restore the data, a third was able to recover the police interview from two years earlier, which led the defendant to plead guilty earlier this month. Close call..."

So this stuff happens in the first world? While I am shocked, I am not that surprised at all. We as a nation have been "sinking" fast.

From our auto industry's junk products, to corruption (Haliburton), nepotism and incompetence (Katrina), among our elected officials, it's been downhill for a long time.

So just tell me...how is different would this story be if it happened in the 3rd world?

How is our auto industry producing junk products? Have you even taken a look at Ford/Mercury since the 90s? The Fusion and Milan have better ratings than Toyota and Honda. Not including equal or better gas mileage.

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (2, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100495)

Haha, you make me laugh. Ask yourself...Who is doing the rating? With this corruption, I can trust nobody except the average American who has proven that the Japanese build better cars and have been doing this for decades.

In case you did not know, the American car giants have lost market share...have a look http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/06/A01-50668.htm [detnews.com].

Those Japanese cars are simply better built, have a good resale value and do not give a lot of headache. Aren't these the folks who endorsed the Malibu as the car of the year until it was tested on the road? It was, you guessed it, almost junk. Some folks will not touch it with a 10 foot pole. In the mean time, the Camry and Accord are doing fine.

Have you driven a Lexus lately? Sit in one...just sit in one and have a look...then compare it with any garbage from Detroit...then you return to educate me.

What else do you need? I doubt these 3 car giants will be around in the next 3 years. And I am not a lone. By the way, I drive a 2007 Lexus GS 450. I cannot ask for a better machine.

Re:So it's not only the the 3rd world after all! (1)

aXi (6533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100397)

...After two local data recovery firms said there was no way to restore the data, a third was able to recover the police interview from two years earlier, which led the defendant to plead guilty earlier this month. Close call..."

Please learn proper English. They mean the third company, not the third world.

hmmm (3, Insightful)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 5 years ago | (#26099979)

Couldn't they just have their local forensics lab run FTK on it? I mean, it has saved me and those I work for tons of frustration thanks to stuff like this.

Re:hmmm (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100477)

I don't think the problem was decryption, but more of data recovery.

Re:hmmm (1)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100949)

That's exactly what I use it for. Data recovery is what FTK does best. I have other things to defeat encryption. I don't know why I was tagged flamebait for that.

forced or not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26100061)

So did the video confirm that her original testimony was that she was forced? If so, that cop should be on permanent traffic duty.

One backup copy is never enough (2, Insightful)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100175)

You need more than one copy of your data. At least one of the copies needs to be off site. If this is not the case, it is not backed up.

Re:One backup copy is never enough (1)

gregbot9000 (1293772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100841)

More then one copy? How about someone writing what she said, or at least the key points like whether or not she used the word forced.

Disc wasn't finalized (5, Informative)

CyberZCat (821635) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100211)

This is a very common problem that happens when a disc isn't finalized on both audio CDs and video DVDs that are recorded on direct to disc consumer recording systems. After a the actual data is written what is a essentially a "table of contents" has to be written at the beginning of the disc, otherwise you get the "blank disc" effect as describe here. That two separate data specialists couldn't figure this out is rather concerning...

I'm surprised. (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100525)

Santa Cruz is 25-30 minutes from Silicon Valley, I'm really surprised there was seemingly only one competent data recovery firm nearby. Chances are there was more, but the D.A. just didn't find them. Still, i'm surprised that it took two years to find one.
-Taylor

Help! (2)

Ecuador (740021) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100545)

...As a result, Barnes' lawyers claimed that the victim's original police interview, as police remembered it, would have been inconsistent with her trial testimony and therefore would be exculpatory evidence...

Ok, enough with the data recovery stuff. Can someone please explain to me why the victim was not allowed to testify? I tried to understand but it really is beyond me. Maybe someone can help out with a simple car analogy etc.
Obviously this is THE LAST time I RTFA. As a /.er I should have known better...

try the disk first (2, Interesting)

amclay (1356377) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100573)

I'm still trying to figure out if they tested the disk in a player BEFORE the court room.

Title and Summary completely wrong (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 5 years ago | (#26100967)

It's not at all true that the DA was depending on the DVD... In fact the defense just made an issue that the DA had evidence on the DVD that might point to a key witness changing her story. Since they couldn't turn over a copy of the evidence in a usable form, it became a real problem.

If the DVD didn't exist in the first place, the DA would have been better off.

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