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Abit To Close Its Doors Forever On Dec. 31, 2008

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the then-there-were-fewer dept.

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ki1obyte writes "Earlier this year the Taiwanese firm Abit, once a leading-edge maker of computer mainboards and other components, was slated to shut down motherboard production by the end of 2008 and focus on consumer electronics devices. Now X-bit labs reports that Abit will cease to exist entirely after midnight on the last day of 2008 because the owner of the brand, Universal Scientific Industrial, is in the process of restructuring and cutting their costs."

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Sad News (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190005)

Sad to read this. Have had several Abit mobos in the past, always good quality reliable boards.

Re:Sad News (5, Interesting)

jamesh (87723) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190279)

good quality reliable boards

I bought an Abit BP6 about 8 years ago, and it served me well up until about a year ago, but I wouldn't call it reliable or good quality. Abit had heaps of trouble with crappy firmware releases for it, and the onboard ATA-100 controller was known to be crap. It caused massive corruption under Linux, which could have been a driver bug but I more suspect it was hardware related.

A later version than mine was released with bad capacitors. Apparently replacing those improved reliability in that model.

Still, it was a dirt cheap dual celeron board that did the job (I wanted to experiment with SMP coding). It's sitting on the floor next to me right now, but only because I haven't gotten around to turfing it yet.

Re:Sad News (2, Informative)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190717)

Ah yes, the (in)famous BP6, an excellent cheap SMP motherboard if you had the time and knowhow to replace potential broken components, re-imaging the firmware and all that. But it did run Windows 2000 perfectly for me, and as long as you didn't try to use the damn onboard HPT366 controller then it ran GNU/Linux and FreeBSD just fine as well.

/Mikael

Re:Sad News (4, Insightful)

eebra82 (907996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190885)

I too had a BP6 and was very satisfied with it. Having said that, I challenge you to name a single motherboard maker without any faulty motherboards. If I had to, I could list two-digit numbers of corrupted motherboards from Asus, MSI, Foxconn, Chieftec, AOpen and Intel.

Re:Sad News (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191395)

Tyan. You get what you pay for.

Re:Sad News (1)

Fireshadow (632041) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191777)

No personal experience with Abit. To your statement, all the motherboard manufacturers have been affected by bad capacitors. See http://www.badcaps.net/ [badcaps.net] . In the bad caps dot net forums, you can read about the details of the class action lawsuit against Abit.

Heck, Wiki calls it a "plague" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Sad News (1)

Ucklak (755284) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191861)

I'm still running an Abit MB with a P3 for the past 9 years.

Re:Sad News (4, Insightful)

0xygen (595606) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190613)

I'm gutted too, I currently have an Abit IP35 Pro, which is the only P35 chipset based board I could get to work with the Dominator DDR2-1066 I use!

I will be sad to see them go, I really like their recent parts. My motherboard overclocks fantastically, taking an E6750 from 2.66 GHz to 3.3 GHz with rock solid stability without having to shell out crazy money for the X38, X48 etc.

Re:Sad News (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190851)

And that's a problem with the motherboard or the RAM? ;)

Re:Sad News (1)

mako1138 (837520) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190673)

I had a KT7A back in the day, and now I'm running an IP-35 Pro. Good boards, and it's sad to see the company go.

It would be nice if they could release BIOS documentation, but I guess that's highly unlikely.

Re:Sad News (1)

segagman (1234136) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190725)

agreed that head line made me sad i been a nerd for alog time and its another sad day in tech...what ever happened to aopen..cause i still use there cases lol...

Re:Sad News (1)

SkyDude (919251) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191307)

Ditto

Re:Sad News (4, Insightful)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191911)

Agreed. I have always put Abit mobos in my computers, and they've always been rock-solid, and priced reasonably to boot. It really saddens me to see them go.

Abit? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190039)

Hopefully nobody ever bought their crap. I've always gone with ASUS or Gigabyte. Good motherboards.

Re:Abit? (4, Insightful)

HTRednek (793937) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190345)

I hope you bit your tounge a bit after a croc statement like that! To this day, I think my favorite Abit board was their BP6... Ahh, remembering when I had dual celerys when it wasn't supposed to be possible. And 400Mhz O/C'd to 600Mhz at that! Of course I don't miss that tower that sounded like a 747 taxiing for takeoff...

Re:Abit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190439)

true, true.

Re:Abit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191891)

What's a "tounge"?

Re:Abit? (1)

anss123 (985305) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191279)

Hopefully nobody ever bought their crap. I've always gone with ASUS or Gigabyte. Good motherboards.

Of those three brands I know that ABIT has the best fan speed controller. I got my PC making less noise than the Wii, and faaar less than the Xbox360, simply by adjusting the fan speeds in the BIOS.

With Asus you have to use "Speedfan", giving you another annoying tray icon, and if you're not running Windows... too bad.

Drats.

so long (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190059)

Their timings and voltages were always off a bit So I will miss them, but only a bit

Urgh (1)

icsx (1107185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190061)

Too bad. I even have Abit mobo on my desktop even now. I got atleast 1 year to find a replacement before this PC goes past it's time.

Why? (1)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190453)

Why one year in particular? It seems to me that mother boards are not like milk which goes off when they past it's best before date. Surely it either breaks (in which case you need a replacement now) or it works. If it works, why do you need to replace it? Are you using Windows and they stop delivering drivers or something? I thought Microsoft policy was to include support for most popular hardware by default? If not, maybe you should just convert it to a Linux computer in which case support seems to continue indefinitely.

Re:Why? (3, Funny)

machine321 (458769) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190975)

No, Abit used raw meat in their system boards, so you really want to replace them before they go bad.

Re:Why? (1)

uglyduckling (103926) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190991)

If it works, why do you need to replace it?

Uh... well, I'm guessing he's meaning that newer processors will come out with features not supported by the current motherboard, so he would want to upgrade.

Re:Why? (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191159)

Because he will want newer parts and they don't fit longer?

He I've had this gigabyte Re:Urgh (1)

mrmeval (662166) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191179)

Through three capacitor changes so far. It's a 2004 board.

Well it's about time (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190065)

I've been reading of Abit's death for years and years. I won't believe it until I read its Abituary, and even then not fully.

Not surprising... (4, Interesting)

kklein (900361) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190069)

I started out on Abit boards and loved them, but after a few years I started having more and more problems with them. I switched to Asus and the problems went away. I was surprised they were still around.

Re:Not surprising... (4, Interesting)

sa1lnr (669048) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190449)

Since 2000 I have had seven motherboards fail within warranty period.

1 MSI
1 ECS
1 Abit
4 Asus (All in the last 3 years)

I'm Gigabyte all the way now and won't touch Asus with a bargepole.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

0xygen (595606) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190623)

Yeah, the last Asus that worked well for me was an A7N8X Deluxe and even that had BIOS troubles in the early versions.

I had TWO Asus P35 based boards since then and both were returned as their DDR2 interfaces were not happy with Corsair Dominator XMS2 @ 1066. Admittedly, the Gigabyte board has the same issue - the Abit on the same chipset does not.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191217)

I friend bought Corsair 4GB (KIT) DDR2 1066MHz, XMS2-8500 or something such with a P5Q E (I think, some P5Q atleast) and an E 8500. He run Vista.

I once tried to lower the multiplier to raise memory and CPU FSB to a similar clock but probably messed up / BIOS settings looked weird (probably because something was doubled / quadubled up from the numbers seen in the BIOS menus.)

Anyway, his machine often halts for like a second he tell me, and it sounds like fans lock up while doing so (may be whatever.)

I've told him to set the rams back to 333 MHz instead of 533 MHz and lower voltage from 2.1 to 1.8 or 1.9 volt and see if it remains more stable, and eventually get cheap Kingston ram and try with those to figure out if it's a RAM or CPU issue (or motherboard or Vista.)

What do you think it may be? Just stupid that we got PC8500 for him, but I thought it would be possible to match all the bus speeds somehow =P

I've talked to him about testing the memory modules with software and such but he's not much of a nerd so it's very hard to explain anything for him.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

mrbcs (737902) | more than 5 years ago | (#26192159)

I guess you just can't ever tell. I've run Asus boards exclusively for about 8 years now and have never had any issues personally. I had to replace one on warranty years ago after the user did something dumb.
Mine have been flawless and am still using 4 or 5 now. I'm starting to think that the hardware can sense whether a person likes the product or not, kinda like a self-fulfilling prophesy.. hate the boards and they crap out on ya. hehe

Re:Not surprising... (1)

Firehawke (50498) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190669)

Exact opposite here. I've had no less than EIGHT of one Gigabyte board model die across four people-- we'd all bought the boards at the same time, online purchase from different places. I wouldn't touch a Gigabyte board if you PAID me to use one now.

  MSI, on the other hand, was always rock solid. It took UPS literally shredding the case, board, and components to take that machine down. I've had four MSI boards, and none failed under normal operating circumstances. UPS destroyed the one, the others were just outgrown.

Re:Not surprising... (5, Insightful)

mpeskett (1221084) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191037)

So to summarise...

Abit suck, but Asus are good
Asus suck, but Gigabyte are good
Giagabyte suck but MSI are good

Maybe the lesson here is that every company is capable of producing both shit and gold, and having a run of good/bad luck from the same manufacturer is down to just that, luck.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191233)

Maybe the lesson here is that every company is capable of producing both shit and gold, and having a run of good/bad luck from the same manufacturer is down to just that, luck.

That about sums it up for me. I now get a dead black chicken and a voodoo doll with each new motherboard, whatever the brand.

In my experience they can all fail in equally spectacular ways. And you never know beforehand because it might come down to some bizarre interaction with some hardware you've already got and some reviewer hasn't. In the end it's sheer luck (although stuff *mostly* works nowadays).

Re:Not surprising... (3, Insightful)

TheLink (130905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191645)

A lot of the taiwanese motherboards (and video cards) and a bad capacitor problem a few years ago. One story was someone tried to steal the formula from the japanese, and the japanese figured it out so they planted an incomplete recipe... One that resulted in the capacitors going bust much faster (e.g. within 1 year warranty).

This affected a lot of companies, and they all made crap stuff for a while.

To me it's more of a batch thing. They'll have bad and good batches. You buy stuff from a bad batch, a lot of them will be bad.

So when you say an Asus motherboard sucks/rocks, to be useful you'd have to provide model and year.

Once you have enough data points then you can figure out which manufacturer has a better track record, is improving or getting worse.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

popeye44 (929152) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191781)

I read a few years back that Asus had 1 per 10 boards fail, Abit 4 in 10 and MSI was 3... this has been a long time ago but a lot of boards do fail.

Of all of them I've had more Asus in 12 years than anything else and I've had 2 failures.

I've had abits that were just too much work to keep running. However I once gave an Abit to my sister that was overclocked 300mhz and it ran a long while and probably would still be running today. I finally changed it out after 4 years.

I'm currently running a rock solid gigabyte 945 ds3 with a 1.86ghz oc'd to 3ghz. Solid caps good bios options. However the last gigabyte before it I wouldn't have used for an anchor. It was horrid. "so much for being a contest winner meh"

Of all the boards I've used I've tried MSI 2 times and I may use them again since it's been 5 years. But previous ones never worked right for me. I do demand a lot from a board and overclocking is the norm for me. I'm not extreme but I do like a good boost.

Re:Not surprising... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191831)

MSI suck, but Abit are good?

Re:Not surprising... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191909)

MSI? You gotta be kidding! I'll buy ECS or Foxconn before that junk! MSI makes the absolute worst garbage!

Re:Not surprising... (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191185)

I've had one Gigabyte and had to run the FSB at 2/3 or 3/4 of original speed to get it stable after a while for whatever reason (northbridge fan had died), and later on one of the capacitors around the processor started to burn.

But neither of our comments mean anything since we would have to have a much bigger "sample size."

What about Asrock? =P

Re:Not surprising... (0)

slaker (53818) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191403)

ASRock is the budget sub-brand of Asus.

Re:Not surprising... (2, Insightful)

gzunk (242371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191603)

ASRock is the budget sub-brand of Asus.

Not any more. It was floated on the Taiwan stock exchange in 2007.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

Fweeky (41046) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191243)

I became suspicious of Gigabyte when they did a board where half the power phases were on an "optional" daughterboard.

Of course the ad copy wibbled about how it improved reliability, but what I read was "We don't have the engineering talent to fit everything on the board". With my experience, the power board was anything but optional, and even with it the board didn't really enjoy having a beefy graphics card plugged into it. Funnily enough, when I replaced it with a practically identical Tyan board, my stability issues vanished.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

Reziac (43301) | more than 5 years ago | (#26192221)

For test rigs, I run mainly salvaged whatever-comes-along, so I've seen lots of Abit boards. While I haven't had notable problems with early deaths, they do seem to be quirky and buggy beyond the norm, and often have rather outdated BIOS limits (they were probably the last mobo to leave the 8GB HD limit era, and I've seen more of that type bug on Abits than on anything else, which probably explains why so many wind up junked before they've actually died).

Pre-Gateway eMachines were Asus seconds. Every Gateway I've had apart proved to have an Intel second. I've seen lots of premature deaths in both, and the Intel seconds are very poor performers, sometimes with strange bugs.

Haven't had a Gigabyte myself, but our local (late and much lamented) PC Club pushed them because they had less trouble with 'em than the others.

MSI used to suck dreadfully (quirky, buggy, slow, and weird old-fashioned limits on every board!), improved a lot and were fine in the early P4 era, no idea what they're doing now.

And this message is brought to you by a 10 year old Tyan S1830S, IMO one of the best motherboards ever built. :) I've had a few other Tyans, including this one's twin, and they've been the soul of reliability. No deaders yet.

The only reason to miss Abit is because diverse options and major competition are always good, and I fear the industry being reduced to just 2 or 3 big players, our options shrinking right along with it.

Re:Not surprising... (3, Interesting)

trum4n (982031) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191371)

Every EVGA board made will fail in the warranty period. the LIFETIME WARRANTY. Personally i can't believe none of you mentioned EVGA. Great boards, low cost. BTW, i also have a BP6. Got it 2nd hard at a yard sale, took it home and popped the side off the case, and was baffled that it had 2 cellerys in it. I did some research, and took 2x400Mhz to 2x825Mhz. Took a week to get that grin off. It's a file server now.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

Darkk (1296127) | more than 5 years ago | (#26192241)

I am too a 100% GigaByte user. I've had a high end ASUS go bad on me due to bad flash. I never had a problem with flashing their BIOS before until one day after I did a successful flash without errors the damn thing won't boot up anymore. I tried the normal troubleshooting steps and even removed the battery with no avail.

Then I went out and bought a fairly decent GigaByte board and transplanted the parts over. Volia, no problems. It even sports the Dual BIOS in case this ever happens but after owning over 15 GigaByte boards over the years I never had a bad BIOS flash. So it tells me they spent alot of time in quality control and it shows.

They may not be the cheapest around but I am willing to pay extra for good quality product that will run for years without a problem.

I seem to remember seeing somewhere (2, Interesting)

goldcd (587052) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191569)

that when 'DFI LanParty' (I think that's their stupid name) started up, they took most of the Abit board designers. Hence last few years the Abit boards were very average, despite still being sold at a premium.

Hot tubes no more! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190071)

Sad; abit made some innovative - if admittedly fanciful - products. The hot tube based motherboard comes to mind immediatly, & it's a shame there's one less mobo maker to push the rather stale market.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190075)

Uh oh, good luck getting the latest drivers now

Re:Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190253)

Getting the latest drivers is useless if the only purpose is to increment the version number displayed in the peripherial's properties dialog box. Updating drivers make sense if you face an issue with the ones you currently use. If you don't, then updating can at best provide no change...

High-end isn't in demand anymore. (4, Interesting)

mind21_98 (18647) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190103)

Abit specialized in high-end motherboards back in the day. I'm not too surprised that they're closing now; most people are going with laptops now, and the people who get desktops get sub-$1k machines, anyway. Hell, most desktops seem to be less than $500 now.

Oh well, at least Gigabyte's still around. *hugs his mobo*

Re:High-end isn't in demand anymore. (4, Insightful)

Penguin Follower (576525) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190143)

The high-end market has shrunk for sure, but it's still fairly strong. It's just that there wasn't enough room for all the brands anymore. Asus and Gigabyte both still make some high dollar feature rich motherboards, and the folks buying those are gamers & people who build their own HD video editing workstations (or people who just have money burning a hole in their pocket...). A couple examples: Here's an Asus board, [newegg.com] and also a Gigabyte board. [newegg.com]

Re:High-end isn't in demand anymore. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190351)

Well, I beg to differ. More and more people are starting to switch to PC gaming. Im resident on a number of forums and there seems to be more people every month asking things like "what graphics card for my new gaming PC?" and so on. However these are not the kind of people I mean. The people who buy the sort of motherboards you linked are the idiots who obcesse over a difference of 10 in their ping and buy the most expensive processor coolers.

I personally have a gigabyte motherboard, about a year old now (got it january 08) and its been running solidly even with a massive Overclock.

This really is a bit of a shame. Abit had lost alot of market share recently but their newer 775 motherboards and the ones they had planned for nehalem looked very good, had them set for a very big comeback.

Re:High-end isn't in demand anymore. (1)

DigitalisAkujin (846133) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190437)

The first Maximus Formula serves me well. I 3 it.

Re:High-end isn't in demand anymore. (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191245)

And MSI and DFI?

Re:High-end isn't in demand anymore. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191845)

The high-end market has shrunk for sure, but it's still fairly strong. It's just that there wasn't enough room for all the brands anymore. Asus and Gigabyte both still make some high dollar feature rich motherboards, and the folks buying those are gamers & people who build their own HD video editing workstations (or people who just have money burning a hole in their pocket...). A couple examples: Here's an Asus board, [newegg.com] and also a Gigabyte board. [newegg.com]

ASSUS boards are super hackable and i built a desktop out of one, it beeped fifteen times and the hard drive sparked out. Anonymous lololoid

Anonymous Coward

Or people who's time is valuable (4, Insightful)

HornWumpus (783565) | more than 5 years ago | (#26192035)

You would be amazed how many hours you waste in a year of using a flaky computer. Even more if you are a developer and flaky hardware could possibly be mistaken for a bug.

Dollars and time spent on researching parts then building a computer have a reasonably short payback. (I can only recommend one MB brand: Asus. Even there search Toms and Anantech prior to buying.)

I do wish there was a source of reliable and high performing ready made computers. I know of no such brand or local store. The brands are jokes and the local stores will all sell you out in a heartbeat if they think they can make a buck selling you junk ('DFI is top quality hardware! Why are you walking away?'). I had one store trained while I was running a corporate network. Long sense lapsed to their old habits. Only the owner remembers me (as a profitable pain in his ass).

You don't have to have money burning a hole in your pocket to buy top quality parts. You need money burning a hole in your pocket to buy the neon glow of 'Alienware' etal.

Non-event? (3, Informative)

OpenSourced (323149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190105)

As far as I can tell, there will be no closing of any door. We have this Universal Scientific Industrial (what a name!) that has a brand called Abit, and puts stickers with that name on some products. Now it finds the value of the brand diminished, and will put other stickers on the products, perhaps change the product line, etc. But for all we know, the total production of the company can be growing apace. In short, the only real material change to be reported by this story, is probably the value of some computer records. But well, this is Slashdot after all, and we are interested in that kind of thing, aren't we?

Missing the point (4, Informative)

YuppieScum (1096) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190153)

"... the process of restructuring and cutting their costs."

Which means that while there may well be new stickers and boxes for any existing inventory, USI get to kill Abit completely and no longer support anything with that name on it.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that in 6 months time there's a big furore about Abit boards having leaking capacitors or some such - and the consumers will be out in the cold with no-one to sue.

Re:Missing the point (1)

tabrisnet (722816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190645)

I fail to see why there would be no one to sue... as the company still exists.

I don't think that if P&G dropped Tide next year that I can't still sue P&G if I find out that Tide put holes in my clothes.

Re:Missing the point (1)

Jay L (74152) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191741)

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that in 6 months time there's a big furore about Abit boards having leaking capacitors or some such

I fail to see why that should take six months.

Re:Missing the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191811)

If my current Abit motherboard with all solid capacitors finds a way to have leaking capacitors, I'll be more surprised than incensed to legal action.

Re:Non-event? (1)

atraintocry (1183485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190163)

Yes, we are. Are you sure you're in the right place?

Re:Non-event? (1)

OpenSourced (323149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190217)

Yes, we are. Are you sure you're in the right place?

Uhm, not sure. Isn't this "Argument"?

Re:Non-event? (3, Insightful)

Gandalf_Greyhame (44144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190297)

Oh, oh, I'm sorry but this is abuse. You want room 12A just along the corridor

Stupid git

Re:Non-event? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190581)

Bad grammer, I can use as well

From Leader to Out of Business overnight. (5, Insightful)

upuv (1201447) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190183)

I have to say a name like Abit to go under. That was a bit of a shock.

I've personally probably built / owned / used a couple of hundred systems based on Abit MB's over the years. However I can't remember actually building or owning an Abit based system in the last 1.5 years.

True enough the last couple of years the company literally had nothing that competed on the MB front. ( Flame away ).

The cash burn must have been something beyond my comprehension.

I truly morn the loss. Less competition is bad. I really don't want to see the price of a main board hit $300. And still suck. If Lenova ends up making the best board on the market I'm going to retire and hide in the bush. ( Personally I don't much care for anything IBM or IBM tainted. )

Re:From Leader to Out of Business overnight. (3, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190229)

The cash burn must have been something beyond my comprehension.

Yeah, the only ones that can comprehend such cash burn, are running companies in Detroit.

Abit executives in Washington, in front of a Senate panel, looking for a bailout? You heard it here first.

competition? (1)

Mgccl (1380697) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190187)

So Abit going to compete with TWOBITS [twobits.com] ?

My favorite MB company (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190189)

I loved their product line. If I am not mistaken they were one of the first to have a "jumperless" design/setup. I remember when I was running dual 1GHZ processors long before it was the norm.

Under Linux their dual processor motherboards were fast and problem free...under windows well that's another story...blue screen of death would make an appearance every now and then.

For the custom builder these were the best MBs by far. I tested them against gigabyte, asus, etc., but nobody offered the ports and options that ABIT had.

They were pricey, but you definitely got what you paid for. Markets change...Abit to me now is kind of like Austin Healey. Really cool for it's day, but time and economic conditions make it a thing of the past.

Re:My favorite MB company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191611)

I knew a guy once who had a Jensen-Healey. A mechanical neanderthal, but it got him sooo much pie...

Re:My favorite MB company (1)

yanyan (302849) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191687)

Under Linux their dual processor motherboards were fast and problem free...under windows well that's another story...blue screen of death would make an appearance every now and then.

It's possible the blue screens were indicative of problems or quirks in the motherboard that Linux had workarounds for and that Windows did not.

Haaa.. (0, Offtopic)

JackassJedi (1263412) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190191)

Abit will cease to exist entirely after midnight on the last day of 2008 because the owner of the brand, Universal Scientific Industrial, is in the process of restructuring and cutting their costs.

Ow, and i thought that was Massive Dynamic [massivedynamic.com] .. seems like even they need to cut costs these days. Do they still make those USB-attachable drug submersion brain interconnection tanks?

Ironic product names (2, Funny)

SwabTheDeck (1030520) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190211)

FATAL1TY [ixbtlabs.com]

Ahhhh - the BP6 (1)

mav[LAG] (31387) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190225)

The Abit BP6 kicked butt for the time - 1999 or so. It was an SMP board that used Celerons on top of a 440BX Intel chipset and you could overclock them from here to next week. It was the first time I saw an overclocking menu built in to a BIOS. I'm sure I got a dual-500Mhz configuration after enough fiddling and pointing fans at the case.

Windows 98 only saw the one CPU of course but LFS saw both and was responsive in a way I haven't really experienced since.

Sad news.

Holy shit! *THUD* (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190373)

Wow. I haven't actually wanted an ABit board since the BX/P/E-6 era (mostly because a lot of their newer boards didn't deliver in a format I liked, of if they did, they had reputations for being squirelly. Still, to see the brand just up and "go away" so suddenly, with no real indicators that there were problems, is still shocking.

Bummer... what about? (1)

NinthAgendaDotCom (1401899) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190389)

BIOS updates? I'd hate to have bought a board and then not be able to patch a bug in it.

Re:Bummer... what about? (1)

Lonewolf666 (259450) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191619)

Well, get them now. While the website is still up (haven't checked).

And with Abit, an upgrade can be helpful even years after you bought it. I have an Abit IC 7 here (maybe 4 years old) and a recent BIOS and chipset driver update finally brought acceptable USB2 performance.

Apart from that, I won't miss Abit due to the lousy quality. This board has shown various problems over the years that cost some time and money to fix:
-lousy onboard sound => bought a plug-in sound card
-bad northbridge cooler fan => had to replace it
-a loose heatsink holder => fixed by re-soldering

Overall, I suspect paying 50 euros more for an ASUS board would have given me better value for money.
 

ABit has been gone for a while now (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190535)

I got stung by the bad caps problem back in 2003. (Pic [sanslogic.co.uk] ). I never trusted them after that, and I've used Asus boards since. They're good boards but a recent encounter with Asus UK support has changed that. It was just awful. Never again will I buy Asus.

So which brand to go for next time .. that's the question? Who to trust?

Re:ABit has been gone for a while now (1)

Hecatonchires (231908) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190671)

Gigabyte seems like the volvo of the motherboard world - kinda boring but safe.

After returning an Abit board twice back in the late 90's, I stayed away. Asus, then gigabyte. I've also always had a softspot for Aopen. They seemed to offer something a little different. I don't even know if they're still around either.

Re:ABit has been gone for a while now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191201)

Gigabyte, like many other companies, exclusively use a single brand of NIC/PHY on their motherboards: Realtek -- which is complete and utter garbage.

This fellow [wordpress.com] seems to understand the absurdity of the situation quite well.

Re:ABit has been gone for a while now (1)

neumayr (819083) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191429)

My ASUS board has an Atheros L1 network interface, and believe me, once you get to experience that piece of crap Realtek doesn't look that bad anymore.

Re:ABit has been gone for a while now (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191487)

Regarding capacitors that's just how they are so I doubt switching brands help.. I think ASUS sell motherboards with three different kinds of capacitors but if you want a cheap motherboard that's what you get. Probably cheaper to get a new one than buying a premium board though :D

Re:ABit has been gone for a while now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191501)

After a while, it's more like who do you distrust the least, who has fucked you the most, and what is commonly reviled.

I don't think you can go by brand at all. I look for few month old boards that get good reviews. Then I check to see what kind of complaints they were getting. I look to see if they had to release bios updates to "fix" serious problems.

Try to avoid sub$100 motherboards, is about the only rule of thumb I go by.

Bfa'ilzors!? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26190657)

and executes a ultimately, we BUWLA, 0r BSD end, we need you

King of the 440bx chipset (1)

Krneki (1192201) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190667)

Sad News.

Proud owner of an Abit BH6 + Celeron 300 @450MHz.

Not surprised this is happening. (1)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190691)

I'm not surprised this is happening. If you look at a computer you buy at retail now, most of them are manufactured by ASUS, Intel, or the more viable manufacturers that use the latest Intel, nVidia or ATI chipsets and are highly integrated in function. My HP Pavilion a6400f uses the ASUS Benicia motherboard, which integrates everything I need (graphics, Ethernet, and REALtek sound control) all on the same motherboard.

figured as much (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26190839)

It was inevitable since their support had become useless over the whole IN9-32X Max fiasco. I and hundreds of others had multiple boards fail on me. I was promised by their director of sales a replacement for the $330 motherboard after 4 of them failed on me in less than 5 months. Their then director of sales, Daniel, told me, "I wouldn't recommend [The IN9-32X Max] to anyone." He stopped taking my calls and emails when I came around to collect on his promise.

Motherboard works a bit (1)

revengance (132255) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191039)

How can they expect to survive when their motherboards only works a bit. There was this model where there are known problems. Instead of fixing the problem when I go in, they gave me an old motherboard with different problems. After 3 times of getting motherboard with worse and worse quality, I gave up.

Too Bad... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191041)

I'm reading this on our 2nd computer. A venerable BH6 1.01 (1.4GHz Celeron/slot T, GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, Ubuntu 8.04/Win 98). This is the very same MB that was my very first gaming rig (w/ Celeron 300A) over 10 years ago.

It's too bad. Back in the day, Abit were on the cutting edge of MB innovation. Today we take things like softmenu BIOS settings for granted.

Re:Too Bad... (1)

Nimey (114278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191675)

Wow. How do you get an old BX-chipset motherboard to support 1.4 GHz? I had a BH6 back in '99.

Dangit (1)

Sam36 (1065410) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191073)

Aw this really sucks. I had an nf7s-v2 that was my only desktop for about 6 years. It was the first computer that I ever built too. It worked fine in linux too. Looks like alot of people here have had trouble with their products. I would have never known, I guess I got lucky. I replaced my nf7s this year with an asus ma79-t deluxe. I looked at abits stuff and it just seemed like they were not up with the times yet. Sad

they were good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191189)

I had 5 abit boards starting with the Bp6 (celeron 400@600 mhz) and ending with the IX38 Quad GT. Out of these only the last one gave me trouble and had to be replaced. I always find their boards ahead of their time a little, in term of bios settings, overclocking abilities, cooling, and they prices were always decent compared to Asus. Also they had great engineers back in the day from what I heard, that migrated later to other brands after they were hit by that huge scandal some years ago. Remember this was maybe the only brand that somehow encouraged overclocking in the late 90s.

They died a long time ago (4, Informative)

billcopc (196330) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191263)

Abit has been suffering because their most popular boards are from the late 90's. They had some very serious quality control issues a few years back with the NForce3/4 and Intel 8xx boards, I personally witnessed a 30% defect rate when most manufacturers were below 5%. As a result, many distributors stopped selling Abit products and they became very difficult to source.

Perhaps the reason why they are "known" as good overclockers is because of the kind of people buying them: cheapskates and suckers who believe online reviews. There was nothing spectacular about the performance, you could achieve the same results on an MSI or Asus board, and I've seen a zillion folks do pretty damned well on garbage boards like Asrock and GigaByte. Abit just made it a bit easier to overclock with gimmicky little things like "uGuru", which is little more than a rudimentary stress tester with clock control.

Abit tried to position their products as high-end while sticking the price somewhere in the upper-mid-range. As a dealer this made them hard to sell, as most people either want the cheapest board available, or a true top-end "Deluxe/Premium/Platinum" kit, and Abit was neither.

I really won't miss them. I haven't sold an Abit product in nearly 5 years, they are already dead to me.

*BSD is dying too (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191513)

It is now official. Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

Download your mobo drivers now! (1)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191819)

Before you can't get them again without using drivers-r-us.com (now with 50% more spyware!)

I had 1 Abit Board (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 5 years ago | (#26191899)

I don't remember the model number, but it had a 1.2Ghz Athlon T-bird on it and I had nothing but problems. Bought it to replace an intel PII mother board and nothing ever quite worked. The chipset on board hated my video card and the entire system ran hot. I had to run the machine with the side off. I think the machine lasted only two years and was the primary reason I said screw it, nothing works, and bought a mac.

Tyan mobo's ftw. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191907)

you all are forgetting the mother of motherboard brands... TYAN!

Seriously they make very high end, and reliable workstation, and server boards.

fDagorz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26191935)

Those were the days... (1)

Multiproximus (624754) | more than 5 years ago | (#26192073)

I remember that Abit gave people without much money to spend (me) the power to live the life of workstation users.

I will never forget the feeling of POSTing 450MHz on my overclocked Celeron 300A processor with an Abit BH6. I saved a ton of money versus buying a 450MHz P-III, yet had pretty much the same performance. (This setup, plus a 3dFX Voodoo card rocked my gaming world at the time.) My parents still use that overclocked machine, reliably, to this day.

Then the Abit BP6 came out, which allowed anyone to buy two cheap Celeron's and have a dual CPU machine. I had two Celeron 500's running at 550MHz, with BeOS as my operating system. It was computing nirvana that I haven't experienced since.

Sure, Abit did produce a few flaky motherboard models, just like every other mobo company. However, they released some very unique boards for enthusiasts that no other company had balls to produce.

RIP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26192111)

Rest In Peace, Good Buddy...

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