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Anyone Besides Zune Owners With New Year's Crashes?

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the coincidences-abound dept.

Software 480

aputerguy writes "My Fedora 8 Linux server crashed sometime between 18:59:40 EST (GMT -5:00) and 19:00:00 EST (GMT -5:00) on Dec 31, 2008 which remarkably corresponds to within at most 20 seconds of the New Year in GMT. I have been running this same hardware non-stop for more than six years and other than the occasional reboot for kernel (or distro) upgrades, it has not crashed more than 1 or 2 times in 2237 days of cumulative uptime. Nothing other than background processes were running at the time of the crash. Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here? Has anyone (other than Zune 30GB owners) noticed similar year-end issues with their computers or electronic devices?"

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Catastrophe (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292645)

I crashed into this [goatse.fr] .

Yes, Christine Maggiore (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292705)

Some kind of bug, not HIV though.

Re:Yes, Christine Maggiore (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293103)

That woman was evil. Can't say I am glad when anyone dies, but she pisses me off. She should have died in prison.

Well (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292647)

Well, you know what they say, this wouldn't have happened with Red Hat.

Re:Well (4, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293049)

Nobody got fired for going with Redhat?

Re:Well (3, Funny)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293061)

You're fired.

Re:Well (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293093)

Shazbot!

SKY TV set top box (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292655)

Here in the UK, our skytv settop box crashed (lost all tv channels but not the menus precisley at 00:00 1/1/2009 needed a cold boot to get the channels back.

Re:SKY TV set top box (4, Interesting)

Thanster (669304) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292799)

Replying to myself, as I forgot my login details briefly. Sky tv set top box crashed precisely at midnight (was sadly watching the newyears TV stuff. Had to switch over to the old fashioned arial to watch the london fireworks. Did this happen to anyone else (thinking unlikely to find many people willing to admit watching the newyear on tv!) (personal excuse is having a young child!)

Re:SKY TV set top box (5, Funny)

sentientbeing (688713) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293063)

A similar thing, though probably unrelated to the leap second - my parents VHS clock has been flashing 12:00 since 1986.
It would probably bring bad luck for the new year to set it correctly for 2009, so I think ill leave it.

Re:SKY TV set top box (4, Informative)

inKubus (199753) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293137)

That's because typically Cable (or Sat) channels are contracted to carriers over a calendar year. So, at midnight on Jan 1st, some channels are added and some dropped. You probably will notice new channels and a few missing ones if you look close.

Well, after drinking a couple of beers (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292665)

I let a bottle fall and it broke. Does it count?

Re:Well, after drinking a couple of beers (5, Funny)

rishistar (662278) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293111)

Being more refined, I spilt a Gin & Tonic all over my keyboard. The keyboard doesn't work now - maybe it was the drink, but as it was an MS jobby I'm willing to bet it was a Zune like crash. Crappy Microsoft products.

nope... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292669)

debian etch, RHEL, centos, all 300 odd servers stayed up. so did irix and solaris boxen from ancient times of the roman empire..

driver (5, Insightful)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292809)

The Zune crash was due to a specific hardware driver. Perhaps you also have an unusual hardware driver on your setup that was affected?

Re:nope... (4, Interesting)

bluelip (123578) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292925)

why doesn't he just set the time back and let the new year happen all over again?

Re:nope... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292953)

I have a Debian box that crashed at 12 GMT. It's running ntpd and was not able to access the Internet or NTP servers during that time(possibly significant?).

Re:boxen! (5, Funny)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293091)

On Debian, RHEL, Centos & Boxen! On Irix, Solaris, Ibex & Vixen!

No. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292675)

No.

You are alone. Very, very alone.

Yes... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292677)

I crashed my friend's car on the way home from a party last night. Thankfully, I was able to run before the cops caught me.

Well this is obvious... (5, Funny)

oskard (715652) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292679)

My Microsoft Windows desktop crashed sometime between 18:59:40 EST (GMT -5:00) and 19:00:00 EST (GMT -5:00) on Dec 31, 2008 which remarkably corresponds to within at most 20 seconds of the New Year in GMT. I have been running this same hardware non-stop for more than 5 hours and other than the occasional BSOD and Windows updates, it has not crashed more than 1 or 2 times in 174,237 seconds of cumulative uptime. Nothing other than spyware, malware, and System Idle Process were running at the time of the crash.

Re:Well this is obvious... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292737)

What a pathetic little troll you are, even /b/ would shit on you.

Re:Well this is obvious... (5, Funny)

oskard (715652) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292859)

It was just a joke, sorry, I don't want anyone's shit on me :(

Re:Well this is obvious... (0, Troll)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292915)

You don't enjoy it when a hot girl ties you down, injects a pint of saline into your nutsack, shoves a glass rod up your urethra, and shits on your chest? To each his own, pervert.

Re:Well this is obvious... (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292863)

So says the person posting an exceptionally lame response as an anonymous coward.

Re:Well this is obvious... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292909)

yea, well, we are anonymous, tripfag

Re:Well this is obvious... (1)

Donut Zeke (1085279) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292951)

Fuck, we are anonymous and tripfag don't apply to a site when posting with a name is preferred. Why the hell would you bring shit like /b/ into Slashdot?

Re:Well this is obvious... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292933)

What's with all the 4chan idiocy on Slashdot recently?
4chan is funny when you're a teenage boy, but for those of us that aren't...

Re:Well this is obvious... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293071)

I was wondering the same thing... Slashdot recently has a noticeable influx of childish posts that aren't funny, shocking or anything outside of juvenile. They get moderated into oblivion, so nobody really sees them... so what's the point?

Time Mathematics and Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292691)

Time mathematics are well known and extensively published. How come Microsoft cannot get it right? Every time something out of the usual happens (leapyears, daylight saving time changes, etc), Microsoft products crap out.

What tards.

No problems (5, Funny)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292699)

Nope. Everything's fine here in New Ampst

<carrier lost>

Adding some data (1)

sjames (1099) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292703)

Not really enough data to tell yet, but my Fedora 8 system had no issues at all. I'm also in GMT-5. Dual Xeon 32 bit system. E7520 chipset (Intel).

What sort of crash, just froze? Kernel OOPS, spontaneous reset?

Re:Adding some data (5, Informative)

aputerguy (692233) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293015)

Froze - couldn't ping or ssh or get console response. I know the time cuz last maillog entry was 18:59:40 and the clock (on my emacs session) said 18:59 at time of crash. Hardware is: ASUS P4P Rebooted without ever but required me to manually poweroff

Errrrrrr (5, Insightful)

segedunum (883035) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292707)

Why don't you actually boot it, or failing that, take the hard drive out, perhaps look at some logs and actually find out rather than aligning it with a certain set of mystical circumstances?

Re:Errrrrrr (5, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292745)

Because thinking rationally is hard.

Re:Errrrrrr (2, Insightful)

LunarCrisis (966179) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293179)

Especially today.

Re:Errrrrrr (5, Informative)

aputerguy (692233) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293023)

I rebooted it and it went just fine. I looked at the logs and saw now errors. Last entry was in /var/log/maillog at 18:59:40 (not an error). So, not sure how to figure it out - tempted to try to replicate though by setting time back to 18:59 on 12/31/08 (and shutting off ntpd)

nope (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292711)

Fedora 8 is rather old at this point, and there have been a number of important timezone data [nih.gov] updates since then. It's not inconceivable that something went wrong.

Re:nope (3, Informative)

ArcticFlood (863255) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292993)

Fedora 8's end of life doesn't occur until January 7th, so it would still get timezone updates.

Just because its old (1)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293065)

I am running Redhat 7.2 on one of my servers w/o a problem. On one of my desktops, I am running IBM OS/2 (Ecs 2.0RC5) and there was no problem overnight.

Just because something is old does not mean it won't work. I have old pencils that have not crashed. My PC Lint 7.0 t-shirt from 1992 still works without a crash.

My phone did it (3, Interesting)

cr_nucleus (518205) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292713)

My phone froze right after midnight and i had to remove the battery to make it work again.
It's a SE w810i.

Probably coincidence. (5, Insightful)

Thiez (1281866) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292715)

> Could this be a coincidence

Yes. People are wired to see causality everywhere, even where there is none. Had your server crashed a week ago you wouldn't think anything of it (maybe 5% of all servers mysteriously crashed exactly one week ago, but because it was an 'ordinary' day nobody noticed). Anyway, since you noticed your server crashed at new year and reported it on /., and with 6 billion people on this planet we will soon hear stories about other computers that mysteriously crashed around midnight. Not because there has to be anything special, but because computers are crashing all the time and new year (and your post) made it appear special.

I doubt it has anything to do with leap seconds, if your computer ran for 6 years it survived the leap second of 2005.

Re:Probably coincidence. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292883)

Actually, a week ago it would have been the mysterious Christmas bug. At least, for western christian leaning users.

Re:Probably coincidence. (5, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292899)

Yes. People are wired to see causality everywhere, even where there is none.

So you see a pattern in people's behavior? ;)

Re:Probably coincidence. (1)

aputerguy (692233) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293057)

I agree - but seems like an awfully unlikely coincidence. By my math, chance of a crash in any given 20 second period is just under 1 in 5 million: (2 crashes in 2237 days)/(2237*24*60*60 seconds) * (20 second interval). Seems suspicious to me...

Re:Probably coincidence. (5, Informative)

Snowblindeye (1085701) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293183)

People are wired to see causality everywhere, even where there is none.

Very true. There is an interesting book by Leonard Mlodinow called "The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives" which is all about the way humans misinterpret random events to see patterns that are not there.

http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780375424045 [randomhouse.com]

http://www.amazon.com/Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules-Lives/dp/0375424040 [amazon.com]

In other news... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292717)

Not-so-subtle advertisement for Linux server software posted on Slashdot! Come on...

Another anecdote (3, Interesting)

CustomDesigned (250089) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292991)

I switched from Windows 95 to RedHat 6.2 many years ago, and except for reboots to upgrade the hardware (started with 200Mhz Pentium I w/ 384M and now have Dual Core w/ 2G) or OS (now on CentOS 5.2), it has crashed only twice - due to a defective USB2.0 card which I replaced.

We run LTSP so that the single server runs the entire family, using old '90s hardware for thin clients. We simply could not afford to run Windows (or Mac).

Re:In other news... (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293077)

Maybe I've missed something, but pointing out that some Linux-based servers crashed at midnight on New Years hardly seems like an advertisement to run Linux to me.

Google searching (1)

frinkster (149158) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292721)

As of this morning, Google thinks I have a spyware problem and every time I've tried to do a search I get the sorry page with a captcha to complete the search.

It sure scared me - how does a Linux box and a Macbook get infected while they're both asleep? I've done all the checking I can and I'm pretty sure my network is clean.

Re:Google searching (3, Interesting)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292783)

As far as I've been able to tell, this means that there have been a lot of requests from your subnet, enough that it looks like some sort of bot.

Re:Google searching (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292819)

It's been doing it to me too today while using the define: query. But it does it quite often with that query or the calculator, which makes it sound like they don't want to let you use these. That's annoying.

Proximity card system (1)

eli pabst (948845) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292723)

We had our proximity card access system completely shit the bed on the 31st. Don't know if it was a leap year issue or if it was just coincidence, but it caused widespread outages and was a major PITA.

Re:Proximity card system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292835)

We had our proximity card access system completely shit the bed on the 31st. Don't know if it was a leap year issue or if it was just coincidence, but it caused widespread outages and was a major PITA.

Same problem here, my card is not working and supposedly it failed dec. 31st around noon GMT

Given an infinite number of server monkeys... (4, Insightful)

melonman (608440) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292733)

How many servers in total are watched over by people posting on Slashdot? I suspect that the answer is high enough that it would be amazing if at least one of them didn't crash within 20 seconds of the New Year.

I Second That (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292741)

My parents are using a MythTV box on Fedora 8 (Athlon XP1700+) and it also froze up last night at the same time (right in the middle of a recording :-( ). That was my first thought, too, because that would have been midnight UTC. However, after restarting it today, is has frozen again.

I can't see anything in the logs, but the recording ended at 19:59 AST. It should have kept going for another hour.

I have a second MythTV/Fedora 8 box (P3, 1GHz) that I use and never had any trouble with it last night.

Re:I Second That (3, Informative)

aputerguy (692233) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293079)

Interesting, I run mythtv too but wasn't recording at the time of the crash. Has been stable since I rebooted a couple of hours ago.

Re:I Second That (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293087)

I did some comparisons between these 2 boxes and found the following. We were both recording the same program.

messages - both had entries from the channel change script at about 19:29:50 AST.

The next message on the good box was "Dec 31 19:59:59 localhost kernel: Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC." This message was not on the box that froze.

When I stat'ed the recording, it was last modified at 19:59:59.431 -0400.

No, but you've got 6 days to upgrade that machine! (1)

ZG-Rules (661531) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292753)

Fedora 8 EOL is 7th January, you should think about upgrading it to something newer...

Fedora 8 EOL Announcement [lwn.net]

And FWIW, I've got a couple of hundred machines running varieties of Linux (but no Fedora 8) and I haven't seen any silly reboots. I think you might be making mountains out of a coincidental mole hill.

test (5, Insightful)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292765)

Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here?

set the system time back a few mins before the crash occured and see if your server crashes again... otherwise it's idle speculation

Re:test (5, Insightful)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292885)

First good idea in this whole discussion. Don't forget the hardware clock as well.

Re:test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292939)

Also, set up your own NTP server and wind the clock of THAT back, too. Oh, dont forget to convince that NTP server that its stratum 0 :)

Re:test (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292893)

Amen brother.

  5 of about 70 of our production servers died at exactly midnight GMT. No point in speculation until some testing is done.

leap second (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293133)

Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here?

set the system time back a few mins before the crash occured and see if your server crashes again... otherwise it's idle speculation

Remember to recreate the leap second that occurred just before midnight UTC (2008-12-31 18:59:60 EST).

It's 11:11 and 11 seconds just now... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292777)

does this mean I should spam^H^H^H^Hsubmit this noteworthy fact to slashdot
for others to notice my awesomeness ?

No problems here (1)

unix_geek_512 (810627) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292807)

I haven't had a single Linux, BSD or *nix server crash like that and all Fedora 8 systems survived last night out of a pool of a several hundred servers ( all Linux, BSD and *nix ).

It sounds like unstable hardware.

Semper Fi

Ubuntu 8.10 - MythTV Crash (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292833)

I was watching the new years London celebrations on my Ubuntu 8.10 MythTV box. With 10 seconds to go to midnight, it crashed. Missed the start of the fireworks.

I think it may have happened around midnight before, so not necessarily an New Year problem.

No issues here. (1)

ckdake (577698) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292877)

Bunches of Linux servers (200+) running CentoOS, RHEL, CentOS, Gentoo, and a few others, all with recent versions of NTP, and all said something like:

Dec 31 18:59:59 aurora Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC

when GMT rolled over.

RiteAid pharmacy y2k09 bug (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292879)

On 12/30/08, I submitted a request with my pharmacy to refill a prescription to pick up on 12/31/08, and received the following email, verbatim:
 

Your Rite Aid prescription confirmation
Greetings from the riteaidonlinestore.com pharmacy,

Thank you for choosing to refill your Rite Aid prescription(s) online at the riteaidonlinestore.com pharmacy.
The following refills have been sent to the Rite Aid store that you selected, along with your preferred pick-up date and time:

Patient Name: ********
    Rx ******** ********
    Rx ******** ********

Rite Aid Store Location:
    ********
    ********, ********
    ********
    ********

Pick-up Date and Time:
    Thursday December 31, 2009 at 3:00 pm

If you have any questions regarding your prescription, please contact your local Rite Aid directly at ********. Please note that you will need to pay for this prescription when you pick it up. If you have selected to self-pay for this medication, you will pay Rite Aid's price.

Thank you for visiting the riteaidonlinestore.com pharmacy. We invite you to visit us for your other prescription needs and great deals on nonprescription items. We look forward to assisting you!

Some things to note: I've got to wait until next christmas to pick up my drugs, and they were so concerned about patient privacy, they obscured all my contact information, prescription numbers and the pharmacy's phone numbers with asterisks. (I didn't do that myself!)

So, I wonder if their log files are full of java.lang.Exception logs today...

--ob

Mysteriously coincidental with this event.. (5, Funny)

vorlich (972710) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292891)

my cat hid under the bed at almost 25 seconds into the New Year. Right after he heard the first of the fireworks. However he did restart normally about 22 minutes later after a soothing saucer of milk. I wonder if ...

It would be fair... (1)

Chysn (898420) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292897)

...to at least tell us why it crashed. Hard drive failure? Your fan gave out? Some sort of kernel panic or MCE? Was there a black cat in the server room? Maybe there's more Zune in it than you think.

Re:It would be fair... (1)

aputerguy (692233) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293105)

Sorry - I was trying to keep the post short. Not a hardware failure in that it booted right up when I noticed it the next morning. No kernel panics or any other evidence of why it crashed.

Somebody stole my money from the bank. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292903)

No PC crash at midnight, but I found missing over 480'000 from my bank account, all what's left is barely 16'000. Previously I have there almost 500'000. I dunno where is the problem. By the way I'm from Slovakia.

Re:Somebody stole my money from the bank. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292941)

You must be new at this. You forgot to include a modest request for assistance, maybe 20'000 for hiring a lawyer, and an offer to split the 480'000...

Debian (1)

SanjuroE (131728) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292913)

Actually my server crashed between 00:59:52 and 01:03:53 CET so that is also very close to midnight GMT.

Like aputerguy it has been running continously for several years now, although unlike him the server was pretty busy running backups at the time of the crash.

It is running Debian testing and at that time Debian kernel 2.6.26-11.

Re:Debian (1)

lukas84 (912874) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292949)

An internal testing machine that's still on 2.6.21 crashed this night at around 01:00:00 CET.

Production machines with newer kernels didn't have any issues.

Re:Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293033)

I didn't think much of it when it happened, but my Debian testing box crashed last night. Interestingly, I have another (older Debian) box monitoring it and apparently the crash happened within one minute of midnight (GMT). Kernel 2.6.26 here as well.

Re:Debian (1)

legojenn (462946) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293085)

awww nothing eventful happened to my old PIII mini-Optiplex 110 running CentOS that I use as a home router/file server.

[jsd@www ~]$ uptime
  15:36:53 up 64 days, 9:16, 1 user, load average: 2.47, 1.86, 1.57
[jsd@www ~]$

The only weird thing that happens is that Apache stops for no good reason every once in a while.

I'm jealous that I don't get to participate in the conspiracy theory. If my system did go down, I'd use the time offline to put Slackware back on the server. CentOS keeps working so I let it go. Oh well!

leap second? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292919)

I doubt this was the issue but this year there was a leap second added? something like that. Exactly 1 second before midnight they added a second... I think that's what I heard/read.. might have even been on slashdot.

billing software (1)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292929)

A billing program I maintain failed to run today, I won't figure out why until tomorrow when I go back to work. Its no big deal but probably not a coinky-dink that it failed on new years day.

UK ISP crashed at 2356 on 31 Dec! (1)

rapiddescent (572442) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292969)

one of the larger UK ISPs Nildram.net [nildram.net] had a massive problem with its Radius authentication servers at 2356Hrs GMT on Hogmany. Total pain in the arse because we were about to VOIP friends etc. We tried to switch to our backup 3G net connection but the phone networks were totally flooded with all those "happy new year" txt messages, vidcalls and so on.

anyone know if it was Z2K-like?

Sandisk Sansa e260 4GB Media Player (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292973)

I had purchased a Sandisk Sansa e260 4GB Media Player for my father-in-law for x-mas and it worked on thru the 30th, but it wouldn't turn-on on the 31st all day. We finally managed to turn it on today. Interesting...

Crashy box crashes, you say? (4, Funny)

Yath (6378) | more than 4 years ago | (#26292975)

it has not crashed more than 1 or 2 times in 2237 days of cumulative uptime

Apparently, you have pre-existing stability problems with this box. The fact that it crashed yet again yesterday should come as no great surprise.

Linux 2.6.21 hangs on leap seconds (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26292981)

You didn't specify your kernel version, but if it was 2.6.21, you may have hit this:

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux2.6.gita=commitdiffh=746976a301ac9c9aa10d7d42454f8d6cdad8ff2b

Thankfully this was a short-lived bug which only affected 2.6.21.

My laptop had a kernel panic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293003)

I just closed the screen before 11, and opened it again after midnight. Not saying its related to the time though.

Something to do with Y2K38 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293011)

In 2038, the UNIX time (the one most 32-bit operating systems use) will roll over back to 0. We must all get 64-bit at least before then.

If your computer was programmed to calculate time to something... .or something like that, for 30 years.... chances are it will crash while calculating it. But why, in Y2k9, might it do it?

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y2K38 for a full explanation.

Cheers
Dan

PS. Hey it could be leap seconds, if you're synced to an NTP server, it might get confused when it's "not 2009 yet".

duh...computers crash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293035)

"Has anyone (other than Zune 30GB owners) noticed similar year-end issues with their computers or electronic devices?"

Of course they have. I didn't, but by following basic statistics (and without assuming a relation with the new year), you should expect that some of the readers here did.

Fedora 8 locked up here (5, Interesting)

AZPolarBear (661815) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293037)

My Fedora 8 system locked up after the leap second update was logged at 00:00 UT. I was my DHCP server, so the network went down.

Anyone With New Year's Toast Accidents (4, Funny)

david_craig (892495) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293045)

My toast got burnt sometime between 9:59:40 EST (Eastern Standard Time in New South Wales, GMT +10:00) and 10:00:00 EST (GMT +10:00) on Jan 1, 2008 which remarkably corresponds to within at most 20 seconds of the New Year in GMT. I have been making toast with this same wetware non-stop for more than twenty six years and other than the occasional lapse in concentration while speaking on the phone, I have not burnt toast more than 1 or 2 times in 2237 days of cumulative toasting. Nothing other than background processes were running through my mind at the time of the burning. Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here? Has anyone (other than Zune 30GB owners) noticed similar year-end issues while operating toasters or electronic devices?

Not here, just a coincidence (2)

macemoneta (154740) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293059)

My Fedora 8 and Fedora 10 machines did not experience any problems. Maybe you had a power glitch, if there's nothing in the logs.

Leap Year (1)

waynegoode (758645) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293095)

The only special thing about 2008 I know of is that it is a leap year. That was the cause of the Zune problem. Could be the cause of other problems also.

Speaking of coincidences, many people said of the Z2K9 problem that it was a merely a coincidence that it happened on New Years and on a leap year--but they were wrong. One of an item (Zune, server, etc.) crashing at New Years is probably coincidence. Several probably is systemic.

Nothing crashed on me -- madplayer hicked however (3, Insightful)

billsf (34378) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293117)

Madplayer hicked three times at about 0100 CET. I thought it might have been my RAID system I had just repaired. (There was a bad sas/sata controller.) This happened over about 20 seconds. I only use Unix/Unix-like systems and to the best of my knowledge there are no embedded MS devices in this house.

Unix/Linux, etc. handles things like this well. All time sync services like NTP, DCF-77, MSF, WWVB, GPS and the rest give fair warning. I personally are in favour of ditching 'leap seconds'. Time corrections would best be made day to day, the length of today being based on yesterday. That's better, but surely someone can think up the real solution?

BillSF

PS: Frequent updates to Java caused by US daylight saving time are pathetic.

     

Our UK production DNS systems crashed (1)

zerosumgame (1429741) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293129)

Definitely saw some funky behaviour last night...wonderful way to start the new year... Both of our UK-based DNS servers crashed about 2-3 seconds prior to midnight GMT time. Both of these systems are running Linux kernel 2.6.21 on older Dell 1850's. Our other DNS servers (US and Australia) all run 2.6.21 on newer Dell equipment (1950/2950), but none of them crashed. Both UK systems had to be power cycled, but afterwards they came up OK.

Media Player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293135)

Apparently my post is being censored.... lets try this again with a different subject line...
I had purchased a Sandisk Sansa e260 4GB Media Player for my father-in-law for x-mas and it worked on thru the 30th, but it wouldn't turn-on on the 31st all day. We finally managed to turn it on today. Interesting...

If The NES has taught us anything. (1)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293139)

Take out the hard drive, blow on it and then reinsert it.

Ubuntu 8.04 on AMD64 crashed overnight: BlackSOD (1)

Maow (620678) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293157)

It didn't crash at the rollover time, GMT or PST, but sometime between 3am and 11am new year's day.

When I turned on the monitor this morning, a black screen with cursor flashing at top left position.

First time I've ever seen this crash, a B[lack]ScreenOfDeath on Linux.

You're certainly not entirely alone. I expect more reports to appear.

why? (1)

arctan1701 (635900) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293159)

why is this front page?

Well, I didn't get called (1)

sabernet (751826) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293171)

Didn't yet get a call from a panic stricken rep wondering why they can't access their webapp. So I'm assuming that either the voip system is also dead or everything's going grea [...Connection Reset by Peer]

Phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26293185)

My Sony-Ericsson W910i crashed at midnight.

My Debian box (1)

Goodgerster (904325) | more than 4 years ago | (#26293201)

The X window system on my Debian box crashed at 23:59:59 UTC --- when I returned from watching the fireworks on TV, the clock was stuck at this time. As usual it wouldn't kill, so I have just finished repairing my Firefox profile due to the ensuing hard reset.
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