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More Evidence For a Clovis-Killer Comet

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the speak-nanodiamonds dept.

Earth 210

fortapocalypse sends word that a new paper was published today in the journal Science on the hypothesis that a comet impact wiped out the Clovis people 12,900 years ago. (We discussed this hypothesis last year when it was put forth.) The new evidence is a layer of nanodiamonds at locations all across North America, at a depth corresponding to 12,900 years ago, none earlier or later. The researchers hypothesize that the comet that initiated the Younger Dryas, reversing the warming from the previous ice age, fragmented and exploded in a continent-wide conflagration that produced a layer of diamond from carbon on the surface. While disputing the current hypothesis, NASA's David Morrison allows, "They may have discovered something absolutely marvelous and unexplained."

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12,900 years ago? (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299677)


12,900 years ago? That's over twice the age of the Earth, you heathens!

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299729)

My bible is better than your bible.

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299751)


If your bible doesn't accept JESUS H. CHRIST as your LORD and SAVIOR then it's just another FALSE RELIGION which DOOMS you to ETERNAL DAMNATION in HELL.

Re:12,900 years ago? (3, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299851)

didn't you get the memo? Barack H. Obama is the new messiah. HE has brought forth HOPE. HE will pay for our cars and houses. HE will create 3 million new jobs. And HE has totally ripped abs.

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Troll)

bigblacknigger (1440657) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299933)

But John McCain won the election. Sucks to be you, dumbocrats!

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

pdabbadabba (720526) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300043)

I'm genuinely confused. Is this a joke, or do you really think John McCain won the election. And, if so, why?

Re:12,900 years ago? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300159)

He won both the popular and electoral votes sir! Our next preisedent is a WHITE MAN !!! ;D congratulatens to president elect McCian

Re:12,900 years ago? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300347)

I would guess that the gp means that John McCain "won" in the sense that he now doesn't have to deal with all the troubles of the country.

Re:12,900 years ago? (2, Funny)

anethema (99553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301601)

You're replying to a guy named "bigblacknigger". I wouldnt get too worked up.

Re:12,900 years ago? (3, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301097)

didn't you get the memo? Barack H. Obama is the new messiah. HE has brought forth HOPE. HE will pay for our cars and houses. HE will create 3 million new jobs. And HE has totally ripped abs.

I used to think this was a joke, but a journalist on NPR recently stated: "[description of economic woes ...] Is there any light at the end of this darkening tunnel? Where is what the Greeks called the deus ex machina -- the god who descends at the critical moment to sweep all our troubles away?
That could be President-elect Barack Obama [...]"

NPR says he's a god now, not just Limbaugh.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98912392 [npr.org]

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

slugtastic (1437569) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299899)

In my bible jesus is a carpenter.

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300321)

You know, the more I think about it, I can't remember anywhere in the NT where Jesus was said to be a carpenter. My impression is that we generally assume he's a carpenter, because Joseph was one. But if he was, shall we say, "awakened" at age 12 per the Bible, and there is circumstantial evidence that he was an Essene monk before age 30, I wonder if it's not possible that he didn't skip the carpentry apprenticeship.

Re:12,900 years ago? (3, Informative)

leoaloha (90485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300727)

Mark 6:3 "This is the carpenter the son of Mary and the brother of James and Joseph and Judas and Simon, is it not? "

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301245)

In my bible jesus is a carpenter.

In the bible Jesus is a Jewish carpenter.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300185)

Off topic, but I really did sit in a (baptist) church in WV one time, and had a preacher hold up a bible, and tell us that if we ever looked on the back of a bible that wasn't a King James version, we'd find a little 666 stamped there.

I was like "forgive me, God, I'm one of these morons".

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299765)

You need to get newer revision from repo

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299771)

My bible is better than your bible.

You mean it's plastified and thus waterproof?
Mine has an invisibility cloak!

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299831)

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those...

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Flamebait)

emasson (581924) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299871)

The Earth is about 4.54 billion years old! Please google your statement or go back to school!

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299943)

GP is a (funny) hardcore atheist and trolls religious people. Check his past posts.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300995)

You must be new here.

Re:12,900 years ago? (1, Interesting)

DaveV1.0 (203135) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299901)

I would laugh, but I live around too many people who would say exactly that.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0, Offtopic)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299969)

You can't just leave it alone can you. You need to retake you statistics class again. And for religious zealotry it usually falls along the normal distribution curve. There is a small vocal minority who takes everything in the bible word for word, Then it gradually with many many gray lines, goes up to people to take the bible as mostly written abstractly to explain the concepts. Then it goes to a book maintained over hundreds of years to explain morality, then goes to something that has corrupted the world for hundreds of years. You wonder why the radical evangelics fights so hard against science. Because the scientist want to mock them and prove them wrong.
Lets put aside your Religious/Anti-Religious beliefs and focus on the Real Science. If someone goes up to you and tries to open a religious flame war, just respect their beliefs, I tend to like "Your beliefs may be correct, however my job as a scientist is to go with the evidence that is given to me with the data I have. My Data can possible be incorrect or falsified however my job is to follow what I currently have." , This doesn't cause the conflict that other methods have. And if you do come with a conclusion that isn't against their religious concepts they will accept it better knowing that you respect their beliefs. Also it forces the other person to really think about their actions, of having taking the higher moral ground you are in a better position. Just because you wildly disagree with a person and you have the rights to do so. It doesn't mean it is always a good idea to do so. You may say they are living a lie, but to their Point of View so are you, thus a situation where you cannot resolve a conflict.

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300169)


just respect their beliefs

Why should people respect stupid beliefs? Do you respect a belief in Scientology? UFO cults? ESP? Psychics? Respect must be earned and stupid things haven't earned it.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300275)

Wow. I believe that the original post was a joke. Didn't need explanation or elaboration. Just chuckle and go on with your life....

Re:12,900 years ago? (1, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300339)

You need to retake you statistics class again. And for religious zealotry it usually falls along the normal distribution curve.

Interesting. What's the SI unit of religious zealotry, and what type of apparatus is used to measure it?

Re:12,900 years ago? (3, Funny)

_ivy_ivy_ (1081273) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300839)

Interesting. What's the SI unit of religious zealotry, and what type of apparatus is used to measure it?

The Jihadi. It is nominally defined as the rate at which the zealot can destroy knowledge.

1 Jihadi = 1 Burning Library of Congress (BLoC) per fortnight.

Re:12,900 years ago? (4, Insightful)

Roxton (73137) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300607)

I heartily disapprove of this "play nice" rhetoric.

A few points:
1) Apologists like you prefer to think that the literalists are a small minority. A third of the people I know are young earth creationists, and I live in Massachusetts. 48% of the US public are young earth creationists. 16% of high school BIOLOGY teachers [plosjournals.org] are young earth creationists. If you only get one thing out of this, let it be this: have some fucking intellectual integrity and stop understating the issue. Please.

2) You're right to suggest that an argument can't be productive if there's no common ground from which to argue. It is, however, insulting to assume that there is no such common ground. To suggest that the concepts of Bayesian inference, justifiability, history and psychology are not inaccessible to a deeply religious person is condescending to the extreme -- certainly far more condescending than the comments of the GP.

3) Your comment implies that there is no merit to demonstrating intolerance to bad ideas. That's a very popular conception, and I think that, as a liberal policy, it's been utterly disastrous. Now, clearly, it can be effective in a discussion or argument to assume that the other person is capable of meaningfully participating in that discussion or argument, but that's not the same as tolerating bad ideas. Cultural pressure is one of the great factors in meme progression and suppression, and it needs to be used.

When you don't believe in apodictic truth, it's easy to have reservations about sharing your ideas, because they aren't so much correct as "merely" good. Secularists need to sack up and realize that good is good enough to be loud. Timidity is not a good policy.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0, Offtopic)

Roxton (73137) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300765)

To suggest that the concepts of Bayesian inference, justifiability, history and psychology are not inaccessible to a deeply religious person is condescending to the extreme[...]

s/are not inaccessible/are inaccessible/

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300813)

To suggest that the concepts of Bayesian inference, justifiability, history and psychology are not inaccessible to a deeply religious person is condescending to the extreme...

Please clarify this. I know deeply religious people who are highly intelligent, well educated, and were likely advancing their non-religious, technical fields back when you still thought binary referred to your daily routine of 'Whack off. Go to sleep. Whack off. Go to sleep.'

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

Roxton (73137) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300967)

Please clarify this. I know deeply religious people who are highly intelligent, well educated, and were likely advancing their non-religious, technical fields back when you still thought binary referred to your daily routine of 'Whack off. Go to sleep. Whack off. Go to sleep.'

In all fairness, I think that made me a better lover.

I was trying to make the opposite point, and I accidentally double-negated. Oops. My point was that deeply religious people are *more* than capable of finding common ground. The most devout fundamentalist Christians, I find, are deeply studious.

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

CosmeticLobotamy (155360) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300945)

People are much more likely to take friendly constructive criticism than change their mind because someone explains why they're morons.

That said, the original joke was funny, and funny things are always okay.

Re:12,900 years ago? (2, Interesting)

Joseph Hayes (982018) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301285)

You could also throw some cynical imagination in there, humility that we could all be completely wrong, and the Pagans had it right the whole time. Perhaps the Earth is a "living" entity in ways we don't yet recognize. And all the flora and fauna are just parasites, including us. There are an aweful lot of galaxies out there, and they all have planets. Can a flea comprehend that a dog, or human is what it is? I doubt it, it's just food, shelter, and a body to colonize and breed on. They inhabit the parts that are good for them, and avoid the places that they are likely to die. Much like us on earth. They suck blood, while we mine and farm. So while we see Earth as a beautiful place full of life. Other planets may see her as the filthy whore of the region, and use their gravity to throw rocks at her.... hehe Okay, that's a little dumb, but I think I've conveyed my message. Just wanted to put a spin on things for you all. I wonder what religion that makes me?

Re:12,900 years ago? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301507)

Funny. People with the same value systems tend to flock together, so no surprise 33% of your peeps are creationists. The scientific way of things and the religious way of looking at things have their own advantages and disadvantages, and I believe it's human nature to yearn toward the system with the most advantage. To me, this requires losing science and religion. Science, with all it's rules on what constitutes evidence, would like you to believe in the God of Unpredictability and Random Chance - not many advantages there. Religion would like you to believe in a God that gets mad and destroys people at a whim - and God's response to Job on this matter was just weak.

But there is a belief in "All That Is" that combines the known and unknown, that purports the basic unit of all reality is consciousness. The advantages are incredible, and it exposes the weaknesses associated with the scientific and religious way of understanding reality.

To each their own, but the debate should focus on advantages and disadvantages of theory.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0, Flamebait)

ultranova (717540) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301529)

Your comment implies that there is no merit to demonstrating intolerance to bad ideas. That's a very popular conception, and I think that, as a liberal policy, it's been utterly disastrous. Now, clearly, it can be effective in a discussion or argument to assume that the other person is capable of meaningfully participating in that discussion or argument, but that's not the same as tolerating bad ideas. Cultural pressure is one of the great factors in meme progression and suppression, and it needs to be used.

Saying that an idea is good is the same as saying that you think it's correct. Consequently, tolerating only good ideas is equivalent to tolerating only ideas you agree with. That has been shown to result in disaster, time and again. That's why we have freedom of religion nowadays: the alternative is constant religious warfare. Similarly, not tolerating bad ideas will eventually lead to a fight.

Liberal policy of live and let live is really all about the first part. You will never be left to live in peace unless you're willing to do the same to others; and that means tolerating their ideas, no matter how imbecilic they might be. Your only alternatives are to use force or to pick on your neighbours until they snap and use it on you.

Finally... Meme suppression ? You do realize that suppressing a meme requires oppressing the people who would pick it up or keep it ? I believe Stalin did something like that - for the benefit of society, of course - and is forever afterwards remembered as a brutal, murderous tyrant for it; I really don't think that it would be a good idea to try it here.

Re:12,900 years ago? (4, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301065)

You can't just leave it alone can you. You need to retake you statistics class again. And for religious zealotry it usually falls along the normal distribution curve. (...) You wonder why the radical evangelics fights so hard against science. Because the scientist want to mock them and prove them wrong.

Funny, I thought it was because when you do prove them wrong time and time again, people might start to question the rest too including the belief parts. That people have an incredible capability of cognitive dissonance and explaining away anything the parts that lead to conflict is fairly well known though. It's not just to mock, but it's to point out that it's sort of a package deal - you can't believe in half the commandments, the odd pages of the Bible or whatever. Far too many people simply cherry pick the parts they want, so that they don't have to deal with all the things that are flat out wrong and still believe that everything else is accurate. There's always a good excuse for why some parts shouldn't be taken literally or seriously which happens to fit your own opinion.

Re:12,900 years ago? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301651)

If someone goes up to you and tries to open a religious flame war, just respect their beliefs

You know, I'm sick and tired of being told I have to play nice with religious people.

Why? Why do I have to respect their beliefs? Why do I have to pussy-foot around the fact that they're choosing to believe in an imaginary friend with absolutely no empirical evidence?

Sure, that's your choice... But why do I have to respect you for it?

If you tell me that you can fly, do I have to respect that belief too? What if you tell me that paper isn't flamable? What if you tell me that cyanide is a healthy supplement to have with breakfast? At what point does it become acceptable for me to call you a flaming idiot?

People kind of grin and chuckle at the Invisible Pink Unicorn and Flying Spaghetti Monster... But religions like Christianity are just as ridiculous. The only reason Christianity gets any kind of respect is because it has been around longer. So, in a couple thousand years, are people going to have to respect the beliefs of a Pastafarian? Or will they still be allowed to grin and chuckle?

And, of course, this respect only goes one way. We're all supposed to respect the beliefs of the religious folks... But they don't have to respect ours.

Religions are constantly trying to impose their beliefs on anyone and everyone around them. I'm not just talking about evangelists who just won't take no for an answer... Take a look at the big battle of Proposition 8 in California.

It doesn't matter whether I believe that you should be able to marry whoever you want...the religious folks think it should just be between a man and a woman. Are they willing to respect my beliefs? Are they willing to let atheists and agnostics and whoever else go around marrying who they want to, and just worry about keeping their own flock on the straight-and-narrow? Nope! No same-sex marriages for anyone!

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

leoaloha (90485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300333)

If you are trying to use the bible as a foundation for your joke, you forgot to calculate correctly. Using chronology from the bible the existence of "man" is a little over 6000 years. The bible use of "DAY" for creative process can mean thousands of years. Ezekiel 4:6 shows one translation of day as a year "A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you". Even in our time we say things such as "back in my dads day". - That thought can represent 60-90 years or so.

Re:12,900 years ago? (1)

Slur (61510) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301433)

Whether the Bible might sometimes mean 'fortnight,' 'year,' or 'kalpa' when it says 'day' is pointless to debate. The parable of the creation of man in Genesis is not an historical account, nor is it meant to be taken literally at all. It's a simple analogy about what prevents people from realizing their unity with creation, specifically that our conventional means of 'knowing' the world blinds us to our innate natural being. The result, that we no longer see the world as a garden of creation of which we are a part, but as an adversary. (As for the part where God gives the world to mankind to capitalize on, well that's a purely human conceit.)

I highly doubt dividing the age of the observable universe or the generations of mankind by 7 will yield any special insight into the nature of the universe, the nature of the number 7, or the nature of 'God's mind.' However it might tell you a little something about the writer's culture.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301605)

That's a neat idea, but I've never heard of a generic period of time having a morning and an evening, as in "and the evening and the morning were the nth day."

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300611)

You idiot the dinosaurs were wiped out 65 MYA (million years ago) and you think the earth is less than 6,450 years old. If that were true,the earth would still be a seething hot ball of magma with no water or oxygen and no moon!

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300859)

12,900 years ago? That's over twice the age of the Earth, you heathens!

I don't see how you can claim to derive the age of the earth from the bible,since the bible does not tell how long ADAM and EVE lived in the garden before they were kicked out. very important bit of information

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301377)

If you're talking about religious beliefs this is another disaster.

What did that comet impact basically do ? Well it stopped a streak of global warming that lasted thousands of years. That global warming allowed for a constant expansion of agricultural produce.

And then *boom*. The shock itself was not fatal for all but a few hundred of the clovis people. What got them was simply the loss of agricultural land and the changes in the animals around them.

They stopped global warming !

Then they died.

Re:12,900 years ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301545)

Actually that's only half of a mayan cycle...

Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299803)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.

INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.
You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.

CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER
Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat

HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.

FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.
Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.

MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.
Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 75 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.

ENTERTAINING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include: 1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing. 2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one). 3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit. 4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood. 5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.

DISPOSAL OF DEAD NIGGERS.
Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.

COMMON PROBLEMS WITH NIGGERS - MY NIGGER IS VERY AGGRESIVE
Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?

MY NIGGER KEEPS RAPING WHITE WOMEN
They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.

WILL MY NIGGER ATTACK ME?
Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).

MY NIGGER BITCHES ABOUT ITS "RIGHTS" AND "RACISM".
Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.

MY NIGGER'S HIDE IS A FUNNY COLOR. - WHAT IS THE CORRECT SHADE FOR A NIGGER?
A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".

MY NIGGER ACTS LIKE A NIGGER, BUT IS WHITE.
What you have there is a "wigger". Rough crowd. WOW!

IS THAT LIKE AN ALBINO? ARE THEY RARE?
They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it. The best thing for any wigger is a dose of TNB.

MY NIGGER SMELLS REALLY BAD
And you were expecting what?

SHOULD I STORE MY DEAD NIGGER?
When you came in here, did you see a sign that said "Dead nigger storage"? .That's because there ain't no goddamn sign.

creators' newclear power useful in difficult times (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299845)

it's all in the manual. better days ahead.

Lonsdaleite (5, Informative)

mdsolar (1045926) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299861)

The NYT article mentioned some of the diamond is hexagonal: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/02/science/02impact.html [nytimes.com]

This is a type of diamond that seems to form when meteors enter the atmosphere and it a called Lonsdaleite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonsdaleite [wikipedia.org]

This material is of interest as a replacement for structural steel since it can be formed in a simple manner using chemistry. http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2008/01/anaximenes-way.html [blogspot.com]

Re:Lonsdaleite (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300545)

Yea thats all well and good but does it come in 2 carret, D color, SI1 clarity? My g/f is demanding.

Re:Lonsdaleite (1)

mdsolar (1045926) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301181)

No, it is yellowish. It is just easier to make than regular diamond and also much stronger than steel.

Tunguska event had no crater (5, Informative)

Jason Quinn (1281884) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299887)

It's worth pointing out that the Tunguska event left no crater. Lack of a crater is not a major problem with this hypothesis.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (5, Interesting)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299953)

They're actually investigating Lake Cheko as a possible impact site for a fragment of the Tunguska body. 8 km away, conical, pointed straight away from the blast center, seems (magnetically) to have a metal rock about a meter wide at the bottom (which the University of Bologna intends to dig up some time this year).

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (2, Interesting)

oldwarrior (463580) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300405)

Maybe something similar is at the bottom of one of the great lakes?

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (1)

cabjf (710106) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301769)

Not likely, as the Great Lakes origin had more to do with plate tectonics and glaciers than comet impacts.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (0)

drolli (522659) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300007)

Everybody knopws Tunguska was an emergency landing of an alien spaceship.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (1)

C_L_Lk (1049846) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300205)

I thought it was the biggest inter-dimensional cross rip of its time?

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300239)

You're both wrong. everyone knows now that it was the first test of Tesla's secret earthquake producing technology. Every earthquake since then has also been caused by this same technology, used by the USA.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300495)

Bullshit. It's because by the times the Vogons started digging, it was time for their coffee break. Never trust unionized aliens.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301113)

STFU, it's because your mom dropped there.

Re:Tunguska event had no crater (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300537)

It actually corresponds with the Carolina Bay [wikipedia.org] phenomenon, where small elliptical impact craters appeared 14000 years BP all over the eastern US.

oldest event preserved in history? (3, Interesting)

peter303 (12292) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299893)

Whats the oldest verifiable event or person preserve in human oral or written history? I think we get barely half-way to this meteor.

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (2, Informative)

u38cg (607297) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299955)

Sumerian cuneiform (sp?!) dates to something like 3500BC, IIRC a few centuried before the Egyptians really got going. So yep, roughly halfway.

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300289)

Gilgamesh is older than that. It was handed down from before the pictograms that preceded cuneiform.

does Gilgamesh remember big flood? (3, Interesting)

peter303 (12292) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300415)

Soem people postulate the filling of the Black Sea 7150 years ago. Or the filling of the Mediteranean about 15000 years ago. Thirdly, the end of the last ice was so quick that shorelines retracted miles in a person's lifetime then. There are some "100 year loads" in Mesopotamia that are pretty nasty and Giglamesh could remember some of those. Flood legends are common around the world along with floods.

Re:does Gilgamesh remember big flood? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300845)

There are some "100 year loads" in Mesopotamia that are pretty nasty and Giglamesh could remember some of those. Loads vary. What might be a 100-year load for me, Peter North can toss off every day. I agree with the "pretty nasty" comment, however. "Giglamesh" would be a pretty good name for a Beowulf cluster.

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (4, Informative)

Guido von Guido (548827) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300887)

Gilgamesh is older than that. It was handed down from before the pictograms that preceded cuneiform.

First, that 3500 BC date includes the pictogram phase. The characteristic cuneiform wedges didn't come until later.

Second, there's not any evidence that the Gilgamesh epic was handed down from earlier. The earliest versions of the Gilgamesh legend date from the third dynasty of Ur, beginning roughly 2150 BC. There is some historical evidence for an actual Gilgamesh, who is mentioned in the Sumerian king list. There's also some contemporary evidence for some of the other kings mentioned in the epic. If he did exist, he probably dates to around 2700 BC.

To be fair, the epic of Gilgamesh could certainly be based on older legends. There's just no evidence for it.

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26299961)

What do you think cave paintings represent? The local news, or latest epic from Rockywood?

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300441)

What do you think cave paintings represent?

Need new club? Go to Ug! Only one bearskin. Bad credit no problem, one egg now, one each moon change one hand fingers times.

(YMMV, Where taboo, no go)

Re:oldest event preserved in history? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301387)

Whats the oldest verifiable event or person preserve in human oral or written history? I think we get barely half-way to this meteor.

Historical records don't go back 12,900 years, but archaeologically-speaking, that timeframe isn't unusual or unbelievable. Human Remains and/or human-made tools have been found dating that early in several places on the American continents: Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Oregon, and California, to name a few.

Very true (2, Interesting)

emasson (581924) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299935)

I saw something on Discovery or National Geographic about a few days back.... The scary part is that they speculate on the size of that killer rock. Scientists believe now that its size was much smaller than expected. Meaning smaller asteroid/comet that was previously though trivial are now possible humanity killer!

Re:Very true (2, Insightful)

foniksonik (573572) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300151)

An event that could create a lethal environment for early civilization won't necessarily have the same 'impact' on modern civilization. The scenario described here is that the impact caused weather patterns to change dramatically which lead to widespread famine. These people relied upon natural weather for their survival (rainfall for irrigation, etc.) and while this would cause huge issues for any society today it's not likely that it would be nearly as widespread or as long lasting.

Re:Very true (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300907)

An event that could create a lethal environment for early civilization won't necessarily have the same 'impact' on modern civilization.

True, because they had to hunt and gather whereas we get our food from supermarkets.

Re:Very true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301523)

Right, apparently we with our modern civilization are perfectly OK with temperatures rising a few degrees and some islands and coasts being flooded. So what "impact" could a meteorite have on us?

Hmm... diamonds! (1)

neonux (1000992) | more than 5 years ago | (#26299989)

The new evidence is a layer of nanodiamonds at locations all across North America

We are rich! RICH!!!
Can't wait the next killer comet!

So I can tell the girlfriend... (5, Funny)

kaizendojo (956951) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300045)

"Those aren't diamond chips, Baby...they're NANODIAMONDS!" Makes me sound less cheap.

Re:So I can tell the girlfriend... (1)

Manfre (631065) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301229)

It would be cheaper to buy her a real diamond instead of the microscope to see the nano diamonds.

Re:So I can tell the girlfriend... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301375)

This still is slashdot.

You can tell your imaginary girlfriend whatever you like.

Sure... (1)

danwesnor (896499) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300099)

Everybody blames the comets. And the Republicans.

Clovis people didn't produce enough CO2 (1)

dtjohnson (102237) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300117)

More CO2 would have enveloped them in a cloud of heat-trapping gas that would have prevented them from freezing to death in the younger dryas ice age. Time to throw another log on the fire and look at all of that DAMN SNOW!

Re:Clovis people didn't produce enough CO2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26301697)

Fart, fart! And prevent the coming of the next ice age!

The solutrean hypothesis (4, Interesting)

Nicolas MONNET (4727) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300137)

Just to point this interesting, if far fetched, hypothesis [wikipedia.org] about the origin of Clovis people, based on the striking resemblance of their stone tools and that of those found from the Solutrean [wikipedia.org].
A friend who's studying archaeology told me about this. He's learned to make stone tools, and that made the connection quite appealing. The particularities that both techniques are not found in any other stone using culture.
Again, it's far fetched, probably not true but makes for a captivating story to get started in studying the paleolithic.

Re:The solutrean hypothesis (1)

IvyKing (732111) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300459)

Maybe no too far fetched. ISTR that the Kennewick man had more causacoid features than modern day native Americans. Wouldn't surprise me that the current hypothesis for human migration to the Americas is missing a few pieces.

Re:The solutrean hypothesis (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26300743)

Goddamnit, not that hypothesis again. The paper in question that proposes the connection was authored by Bradley & Stanford, published in World Archaeology 36(4), and is titled "The north Atlantic ice edge corridor: a possible Palaeolithic route to the new World.". They propose a north Atlantic warm water current that would push solutrean tech users from the spanish peninsula to the new world. They base this on a hypothetical similarity between the clovis and solutrean points. There is no such thing. The best thing to come out of that paper is the monster put-down by Strauss, Meltzer & Goebel, published in the same journal a year later and titled "Ice Age Atlantis? Exploring the Solutrean- Clovis "connection"". Man, that read is amusing, and i heartily recommend it to anyone who wants to see the way to kick ass in academia.

Re:The solutrean hypothesis (3, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301003)

You know, I first read that as based on the striking resemblance of their stone tools and that of those found from the Soul Train [wikipedia.org]. and went WTF is he talking about? Picks and platform shoes?

Nanodiamond layer left by Ancient Poki-Man Battle (1)

PYRILAMPES (609544) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300585)

In truth, the Nanodiamond layer was left behind when the ancient Poki-Man ancestors clashed in their Final Battle. Ancient Poki-Man powers came from red egg shaped diamonds that exploded when its owner was killed creating the nanodiamond layer....

slashdot top story for this at news.google.com (1)

mrflash818 (226638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26300871)

'news.google dot com' listed slashdot as the top provider for this story.

Kinda cool.

Please be careful when taking excerpts (5, Informative)

DiegoBravo (324012) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301175)

From the slashdot heading:

>> While disputing the current hypothesis, NASA's David Morrison allows, "They may have discovered something absolutely marvelous and unexplained."

From the article:

>> he said: "They may have discovered something absolutely marvelous and unexplained. But the impact hypothesis just doesn't make sense."

(bolds mine)

Crater (1)

Gaby777 (1443459) | more than 5 years ago | (#26301203)

You will probably not find the crater in the current territory of US. The impact was in a huge piece of land that was between US and Europe which sanked into the ocean due to the impact. You have to search in the deep of the atlantic ocean that derives its name from the land.
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