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Forget twitter... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331085)

But this ghastly RED BACKGROUND on the post has initiated a slow death sequence for /. for sure.

Innocence? (5, Funny)

TurboNed (1370389) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331087)

this is the end Twitter's innocence.

Isn't this the internet? What's innocent?

Re:Innocence? (3, Funny)

Xtense (1075847) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331151)

For a truly internet-friendly explanation:

Innocence is like loli before your ingame avatar gets his hands on her.

*a loud "oooooooh, i get it!" runs through the audience*

There you go! :)

Re:Innocence? (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331515)

For a truly internet-friendly explanation:

Innocence is like loli before your ingame avatar gets his hands on her.

*a loud "oooooooh, i get it!" runs through the audience*

There you go! :)

I'm new here. I don't get it.

Not news. (4, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331207)

The exact same crap has been going on with MySpace and other viral sites for years. This ain't news. The funny thing is that the idiots who eat that shit up like to say that their profile was "hacked" when they were really just too lazy to look at the damn address bar.

Re:Innocence? (3, Informative)

hannson (1369413) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331391)

Reported Web Forgery!

This web site at twitter.access-logins.com has been reported as a web forgery and has been blocked based on your security preferences.

Web forgeries are designed to trick you into revealing personal or financial information by imitating sources you may trust.

Entering any information on this web page may result in identity theft or other fraud.

Seems like Firefox already has this under control

Re:Innocence? (2, Informative)

hannson (1369413) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331417)

Oh and when I ignore it I get:

Trend Micro Internet Security has identified this Web page as undesirable.

Re:Innocence? (4, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331449)

I'm not sure if you're referring to twitter or the twitter phishing site :/

Re:Innocence? (3, Funny)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331623)

I'm referring to Twitter. Whose marketing dept should probably be the first against the wall in any revolution.

Re:Innocence? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26332245)

"Isn't this the internet? What's innocent?"

Don't worry, China is here to help! [bbc.co.uk] . Finally they can get rid of smut like "Google" and such...

No, end of services (4, Insightful)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331113)

If Twitter is smart, it will end its auth api or modify it so that folks have to go to twitter to authorize an application. This is the way that Facebook, Yahoo, and OpenID do it, as well.

Re:No, end of services (4, Interesting)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331135)

Domain phishing like the access-urls thing in the article picture could be best fixed by ssl logins...

Re:No, end of services (2, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332275)

And what does that have to do with this scam?

I assume you mean it's because they use the API to send the messages, but they could easily have just scraped the website to send them anyhow. The only way to prevent twitter-spam (and any other service) is to only allow messages from friends. Since that is really, really restrictive, you won't get many services to do that.

It's not that I don't agree that they should require authorization for apps on twitter, it's that it has nothing to do with this story.

Let's hope so (5, Insightful)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331137)

terms like "twitterverse" and "microblog" are heralding the end of the sane Internet, so lets hope they get consumed by the vermin of the Internet.

Re:Let's hope so (4, Funny)

Xtense (1075847) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331205)

Somehow my mind refuses to acknowledge that "w" in "Twitterverse".

And thus my imagination brewed a beautiful image...

Re:Let's hope so (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331409)

A joke involving the world "tit" was uttered and thus was the titterverse created as prepubescent boys across slashdot laughed nervously.

Re:Let's hope so (3, Insightful)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331547)

The sane internet died a decade ago. We're in the death throws of the internet-of-the-corporate-hack. Likely our next stop will be the reincarnation of an AOL like atmosphere where a central application or website insulates you from the internet, and provides you with a limited array of things to do.

Re:Let's hope so (5, Insightful)

_ivy_ivy_ (1081273) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331781)

The sane internet died a decade ago. We're in the death throws of the internet-of-the-corporate-hack. Likely our next stop will be the reincarnation of an AOL like atmosphere where a central application or website insulates you from the internet, and provides you with a limited array of things to do.

Ironically, it was the connection of AOL to the internet that marked the end of sanity in my book.

Re:Let's hope so (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26332079)

I can't take your opinion seriously when you use "death throws". Sorry.

("throes", btw)

Re:Let's hope so (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26332367)

This is the most insightful post I've seen all day.

The internet of the future will look a lot like Cable TV, where you buy a package of certain websites you want to visit and must pay extra to access anything off of that package.

fixed it for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331139)

Will tweets become like email, with two out of every three just worthless? Amazing how removing one word suddenly makes it already accurate.

That would imply that non spam tweets were useful (5, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331147)

Thus far Twitter seems like a totally useless idea to me. No, you are not so important that everyone cares what you are doing when you are going shopping.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1, Insightful)

rwven (663186) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331213)

While in your example that's probably true, I personally like it because it's a quick and brainless way to communicate with friends. It's just fun. Organizations find it's useful as a good way to update people, but past that it's not a serious experience, and shouldn't be treated as one.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1)

nathan.fulton (1160807) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331633)

"it's a...brainless way to communicate.... Organizations find it's useful as a good way to update people" Surprises, surprises.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (3, Interesting)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331713)

That's what ICQ (or more recently Jabber/XMPP) is for! You can send one-to-many messages there too.

Maybe Twitter is the webmailer of the messenger systems. Just as stupid. Also a step in the wrong direction.
I bet this will all continue, as soon as someone writes an OS in "AJAX / Web 2.0", then a "Browser". Then "web"sites for it.... until someone comes up with an "interactive" way of writing "applications" for those "sites".

It's called "the inner platform anti-pattern". Avoid it! ;)

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (2, Insightful)

billyt007 (126527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331249)

Thus far Twitter seems like a totally useless idea to me. No, you are not so important that everyone cares what you are doing when you are going shopping.

I suppose if you don't have any friends that like to keep up with what's going on in your life and vice versa.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331537)

I suppose if you don't have any friends that like to keep up with what's going on in your life and vice versa.

That's what conversations are for. You know, real physical human interaction. Remember that?

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (3, Interesting)

billyt007 (126527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332341)

I suppose if you don't have any friends that like to keep up with what's going on in your life and vice versa.

That's what conversations are for. You know, real physical human interaction. Remember that?

Just so I have this straight, phone conversations are real physical human interactions? Are text messages? And how is reading another's twitter feed, and responding to, different then a phone conversation? Twitter isn't meant to replace physical meetings or hanging out with friends, it's for seeing what people are up without having to directly interfere with what they're currently doing. At least until we master the whole being everywhere at once thing. Then Twitter will become outdated.

Funny about that (1)

GuloGulo (959533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331693)

I suppose if you don't have any friends that like to keep up with what's going on in your life and vice versa.

Well, we have a slightly different protocol, rather than send each other mindless little blips of info, we HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER.

Then we TALK TO EACH OTHER, sometimes while DRINKING A BEER AND HAVING FUN.

But hey, a few characters on a screen are clearly better...

Re:Funny about that (1)

GlennC (96879) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332105)

rather than send each other mindless little blips of info, we HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER...we TALK TO EACH OTHER

The problem is, that requires effort and thoughtfulness. Sending "tweets" is obviously better.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (5, Insightful)

solios (53048) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331311)

Agreed. Much like the "blogosphere," twitter is the kind of thing that is OMFG WORLD CHANGING.... but only to its users.

It's great that the service is there and all, but like facebook, myspace, et al, I really wish people would stop blithering about how INSANELY GREAT it is.

A web gui for the equivalent of an IRC or AIM /away message is about as world-changing as a gui for a MUD. Sure, at least one [worldofwarcraft.com] is successful... but I don't do MUDs or MMOs, so how has it changed my life, aside from a few of my friends disappearing for months whenever a new expansion is released?

That said, a pointless-to-me-anyway service that people I otherwise respect can't shut up about is being crapflooded? Awesome!

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (5, Insightful)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331557)

I'm kind of with you on this one. I remember back in the day, if you spent more than an hour on the phone people thought there was something wrong with you. Back then I thought they were right. If some galactic disaster wiped out electronics on Earth, there would be a lot of people who suddenly lose it because they have nobody to blab to. Twitter gives them this outlet even when they are surrounded by people that really don't want to hear their crap. It's really no different than thinking outloud or talking to walls; an umbilical cord to keep them from having to be alone. They talk about how great it is because they are addicted and cannot function without someone listening to them blabber on about nothing all day. As long as they are talking, they feel somehow important. - Yes, I get the irony

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331323)

Most people I know use it like IRC; a really big IRC channel with every twitter user, people are default muted and friends are un-muted (followed). Some forget that their tweets go to the _whole_ "IRC" channel though. I'm ignoring twitter since I've only had two people tell me I _need_ to be using it, and the constant server troubles in the geek-news doesn't impress me either.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (5, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331329)

2008-1-5 11:53AM - just took a dump.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331461)

Celebrating the one year anniversary?

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331529)

Let's just say he ate a LOT of bran that day.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26332137)

You're supposed to use your phone to tweet that you are "taking a dump". No one cares when you finish.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (3, Interesting)

mclearn (86140) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331411)

Then you haven't used it to track EVENTS (that affect more than one person) of personal importance to you: the first snippets of information to come out of Mumbai were via Twitter. Last night I used it to track snowfall (and traffic conditions) in Vancouver, BC. Coupled with instant upload of phone cam pictures, it was an amazingly realtime view of my personal geographic area.

So what? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331927)

There's nothing novel there, and certainly nothing groundbreaking.

I know you hate it little guy, but Twitter is stupid and people who use it, like you, are also stupid.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331473)

No, you are not so important that everyone cares what you are doing when you are going shopping.

If that's all your friend posts, then don't follow that friend. Problem solved.

Oh yeah, that also solves the spam problem too. Or prevents the one that doesn't yet exist. If someone is spamming you, unfollow. It's like email whitelisting.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331681)

I like Twitter precisely for bloggish status updates like Facebook's "status" option (and have my Facebook status auto-updated from Twitter).

I can easily text message Twitter that I'm heading over to a different town for work and wouldn't mind getting together for coffee with friends and leave it open for people to give me a call.

Its a useful service, but some people have hacked it into a large never-ending chat room which it isn't.

Re:That would imply that non spam tweets were usef (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332349)

Ah, not so!

There are 3 reasons why this is not 'useless'.

1) Entertainment is not useless. That is -all- this was made for. Entertainment.

2) My friend uses this to put up a 'going to X tonight' so that all his friends can tag along like the sheeple they are. (Honestly, he really is the life of any party, so I can't really blame them.)

3) Language learning! It's a great tool to help learn another language. Nowhere else on the internet exists so much mindless chatter as on twitter. You'd think forums had it, but nooooo... Twitter has this area squarely under its thumb.

Let me rephrase that question... (1, Redundant)

iamhigh (1252742) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331159)

Aren't tweets already like email, with two out of every three just worthless?

That seems appropriate.

Re:Let me rephrase that question... (1)

ACMENEWSLLC (940904) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331343)

I like the concept of Tweeter. A way to communicate without having to direct the message to someone specific. And so far this doesn't fall under ediscovery.

I can send a tweet from my cell phone that I completed a project which has "this" impact on the network. Anyone who cares can see what I've done. If they didn't care before but something is broke then they can subscribe.

It's good for team communications when you don't have a real project management system.

Of course, you want to not use the public Tweeter to do this, but an internal one or one designed for privacy.

Re:Let me rephrase that question... (4, Funny)

xstonedogx (814876) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331583)

You are implying one in three has value. I beg to differ.

xstonedogx is reading slashdot.
xstonedogx is scratching his crotch.
xstonedogx alsj;dfl;kj;
xstonedogx Sorry everybody, that was my cat.
xstonedogx is reading slashdot.
xstonedogx got up to get a Mountain Dew and some Cheetos.
xstonedogx is reading slashdot.
xstonedogx discovered the Higgs Boson.
xstonedogx False alarm.
xstonedogx HANNAH MONTANA RULES.
xstonedogx is punching his sister.
xstonedogx is cleverer than you.
xstonedogx is cleverer a word? is it more clever?

Re:Let me rephrase that question... (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331595)

Aren't tweets already like email, with two out of every three just worthless?

Don't be ridiculous. Email's nowhere near that good.

Re:Let me rephrase that question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331617)

If two out of three twitter posts become worthless, that means that one out of three are worth something.

Isn't that an improvement?

Re:Let me rephrase that question... (1)

anothy (83176) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331945)

wait, they consider that a bug? i always assumed it was one of their primary design goals.

TwiPhi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331169)

I welcome our new TwiPhi overlords!

This is why (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331193)

we can never have nice things!

This is the END OF THE INNOCENCE! (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331243)

Queue up the Don Henley, Twitter's lost his innocence! But it can never lose its reason to exist, because it never had one in the first place!

Please say yes (4, Funny)

Hoplite3 (671379) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331265)

"Do Twitter Phishing Scams Herald the End of Microblogs?"

*Crosses fingers*

A man can dream...

Re:Please say yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331345)

What the hell do you care? Does Twitter come to your house every night and hold you down while Tumblr gives your ass a going over, sans lube? Did Pownce touch you in a no-no place?

I mean, seriously dude...what difference does it make to you what other people do on the Internet?

Re:Please say yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331855)

Does Twitter come to your house every night and hold you down while Tumblr gives your ass a going over, sans lube? Did Pownce touch you in a no-no place?

No, but a guy can dream, eh?

twitter example: I"M FARTING NOW CAN YOU SMELL IT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331393)

twitter is a solution to a problem that never existed... no one wants to know what your doing every five minutes...

Q: Will tweets become like email...spam...? (1)

SrWebDeveloper (1419361) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331423)

A: YES.

Did you expect a long diatribe or discussion on this one? Doesn't take a mental giant to ponder this one nor a Nostradamus to look ahead into Twitter's obvious future. This is how the Internet works and they had it coming. Classic Slashdot "Derrrrrrr!" and that's that.

Re:Q: Will tweets become like email...spam...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331593)

Did you expect a long diatribe or discussion on this one?

No, I think we expected a 120-character-or-less blurb.

"@slashdot: tweets bcome like email. hate life. shopping now. buying male enhancement."

OK, new rule for 2009 (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331431)

No more "X has lost its innocence". Retire it already. It's sappy and a relic of the previous century.

Re:OK, new rule for 2009 (1)

slightlyspacey (799665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331651)

New rule: No more new rules. It is so last year :). Seriously, though, there is nothing scarier than the uttered phrase "There ought to be a law ...".

innocence? (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331441)

Innocence? Since when was Twitter innocent. They've been guilty of insidious viral marketing for about a year. They've basically been spamming everything and anything they can to get the Twitter name out there.

So, this is poetic justice. Probably it was some forum user who had simply had enough of their sock puppetry that hacked them. The fact that their infrastucture has never been up to the task they needed it for, probably only made it easier to hack.

It is just another overvalued site that is most likely never to survive the current recession anyway.

Irc...Usenet...now Twitter (2, Interesting)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331443)

This is like saying that spammers spell the death of IRC. Or spammers spell the death of Usenet. In the case of both, moderators were the answer.

In the case of Twitter, trust lists and a trust rating system would solve all the issues within a few weeks.

Also, wouldn't the phish have triggered most new browsers anti-phish code? Twitter could probably expand it's use of SSL, that would take care of several problems as well.

Re:Irc...Usenet...now Twitter (1)

Nethead (1563) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332281)

Actually DDOS spelled the death of my IRC server (irc.nethead.com for those that may recall.)

Large User Base and an Open Pipe (4, Interesting)

Ohio Calvinist (895750) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331451)

I think we'll see spammers start to attack social networks as vastly improving spam filters make e-mail less and less viable. If a social networking site sends all "messages" on the site as e-mail or texts to the user and the user whitelists *.myspace.com or *.twitter.com (or whatever domain it sends as) all they need is to get an open pipe on that service and they've blasted both their screen, inbox and mobile.

Networks are huge blocks of users often with similar, or easily deturmined interests making the marketing more effective and development to exploit their native openness or a security flaw more profitable than spamming huge blocks of @yahoo.com addresses via e-mail only as many have good spam filters, are spam-only accounts or have gone fallow when XX69sExYbUnNiE69XXHOLLA realizes that might not be the best addy for her college admission papers or her resume.

IANAL but it would be interesting to see if using a social network as a proxy would give one any sheilding from CAN-SPAM or other state statutes since their is no protection on social networking sites, and users did opt-in to reiceve emails from the social network site.

Spam (1)

nbates (1049990) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331477)

If you get 2/3 of spam then you should first learn how to use your email account before you jump to a new technology.

I don't usually see any spam in my account, all spam is automatically placed in a spam folder.

The problem is not the technology, it is people that doesn't know how to use it correctly.

Re:Spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331805)

The 2/3 ratio was probably referring to emails before being parsed by filters.

Then it really matters where your account is at as domains known by the public will get a lot more to parse than say a small company.

Do idiotic summaries herald the end for /.? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331491)

Yes. Not sure why I even have the RSS feed anymore. Everything is 2 days late and sensationalized beyond belief.

The Reason It's Called Twiiter (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331499)

Because only twits use it.

Seriously, go join the Peace Corps and dig wells in Africa you self-indulgent f*cksticks.

And no, we won't read your blog to learn how you heroically overcome your run-in with dysentery.

Oh god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331553)

says this is the end Twitter's innocence

Must... not... make... joke... about... sockpuppets... oh god please god...

What I don't get... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331579)

Just wtf is the point in Facebook/MyWaste/Bebo/Twatter phishing?

What on Earth does a scammer have to gain from access to a single, random account?

Re:What I don't get... (1)

thrillseeker (518224) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331849)

a password that is probably the same as all the user's other password accounts

Re:What I don't get... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26332077)

you say that like it is a bad idea...

This is a letdown. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26331581)

What, you mean Doug doesn't really wanna be my friend?

Don't think this is a big deal (1)

Demiansmark (927787) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331653)

I use twitter regularly and haven't seen this much.

Regardless, this is similar to stolen accounts being used to spam the message board on Myspace. Slightly annoying yes, but not a big deal because the user generally quickly reclaims their account.

Myspace also took a number of steps to cut down on this and warn users about links to outside domains and significantly reduced the problem.

I don't think this is that big of a deal on Twitter now and if it becomes one I believe it can be effectively combated.

On a side note, it'd be nice that when you notice that you are not logged in to Slashdot after writing a comment and click the 'log in' button on the comment box that it allowed you to log in without losing your comment

Re:Don't think this is a big deal (1)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332131)

On a side note, it'd be nice that when you notice that you are not logged in to Slashdot after writing a comment and click the 'log in' button on the comment box that it allowed you to log in without losing your comment
Yeah, that can be pretty annoying, lukilly (at least for firefox users) there is an easy workaround. Middle click the login button and login in the new tab. You can then return to the original tab (closing the new one if you wish) and finish posting your comment.

the nature of communication (4, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331687)

Every method of human communication brings with it the reasons we communicate. Spam, reduced to its essential quality, is broadcasting greed. And that emotion has been around since the dawn of civilization. Every "new" communications medium will have it, and in western civilization with its emphasis on individuality, materialism, and consumerism, it will be all the more prominent. So is it really news that another medium (in this case, twitter) has started to reflect this? Not really.

Concurrently, we've been evolving ways of blocking out this trash -- ad filtering, blocking software, downloading our TV episodes online, etc. There is a real grassroots effort underway to fight back against advertising and an emphasis on "real" communication -- that is, honest opinions by people we trust. In this disconnected world, networks of trust have become more important than ever as a way of not drowning in the sea of greed, self-indulgence, and attention-grabbing behavior. I know people that use gmail for one reason alone: The spam filtering is just that damn good. I have seen people breathe a sigh of relief and leap to hug me after setting up firefox with ad blocking software -- they are geniunely happy.

The real story here isn't twitter turning to a sea of suck, it's that our culture is changing on a fundamental level. And it is doing this without any real organization, without any center. It doesn't seem necessary for a person to be part of a certain subculture or have exposure to a certain trigger to start it; It's a stand alone complex. That is, for those who haven't seen Ghost in the Shell, a phenomenon where unrelated, yet very similar actions of individuals create a seemingly concerted effort.

We're going to see more of this in the years to come.

Web site/forum hacking is a problem (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331739)

It is beginning to approach the levels we see of more conventional email spam and related hacking... and in many cases, they are simply an extension or growth of the original set of problems.

Recently, a compromised machine led to the inclusion of my company's mail server in some RBLs. It was annoying, but I do not disapprove of RBLs as a means of ranking trust when processing incoming emails.

I think the same sort of system should be developed for Web server applications and should be built as a security module for Apache and other web servers out there. As hacking and other crap on forum web sites are recorded, there should be some means by which an operator can report incidents to a central authority where it accumulates scores which could then be used to serve as a trust level. So sure, CAPTCHA gets cracked... but by whom or what? Meanwhile other sources may show up as very trusted and clean and may not even require a CAPTCHA at all making the life of some users who keep their machines and networks clean a lot easier.

In the end, if my network were to end up on an RBL again, it just means I am not keeping my network clean and it is my fault. If my users cannot use a web forum here or there, the same should apply -- I am not keeping my machines clean. Now a problem occurs when I am a home user and my neighbor's IP address is ranked badly and I happen to be in that range. I hope those details get worked out, but ultimately, the web world is deserving of similar protective ranking methods that we enjoy with spam protections and it would seem it is all the more critical.

Dummest Phishers ever? (2, Interesting)

Al Al Cool J (234559) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331783)

I don't get this scam at all. They use email disguised as a Twitter DM to drive people to a phishing site to steal Twitter logins, so they can do what exactly? The article says they they can then use Twitter to send messages to drive people to websites. Umm, aren't they already doing that with the email?

Twitter is a free service and holds no personal info that doesn't appear on your public profile, other than an email address. People routinely hand over their Twitter logins to third party sites so they can find out their twitter rankings and other such things.

I can understand phishing for bank and paypal logins, but this seems like a lot of effort to achieve very little.

Twitter spam easy to stop (5, Informative)

Jason Levine (196982) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331817)

Many people who are replying don't seem to use Twitter or even understand really what is going on with the phishing. Since I use Twitter, I'll explain:

With Twitter, you set up lists of people that you follow. When you follow someone, you can then see their Twitter messages on your main screen (or in your client application if you use one). Everyone else following that person can see the person's messages. People you follow can also send you Direct Messages. These messages aren't seen by anyone but the sender and recipient. In this respect, it is sort of like e-mail only it requires a "trusted relationship" to have been formed first i.e. No spamming from joe_random@somesite.com to everyone_else@somewhere-else.org.

What the Phishers are doing are sending DMs from compromised accounts telling the recipients about some blog post that they should check out. The recipients (assuming they fall for the phish), see a page that looks like the Twitter login page (but is really on access-logins.com). They enter their username and password and now the Phishers have another account to send DMs from. Rinse and repeat. I strongly suspect that there's a Phase Two in there that involves more than just collecting Twitter account information but so far they are just collecting accounts.

Stopping it is easy. If you change your password, they no longer have access. People have been outing people who "sent" them DMs (and thus were compromised). If a person doesn't fix their situation, you could unfollow them. This would mean they could no longer send you Direct Messages. As people stop following compromised people, they will either fix the problem or will dwindle to zero followers. Spam stopped. (If only e-mail spam were so easy to stop.)

And to address the "Twitter is useless" commentary, yes there are a lot of people on Twitter who post inane things. Then again, there are some good posters. (For example, I follow Greg Grunberg from Heroes and love reading his tweets.) I think you'll find that in any online medium. Blogs are like this, web sites are like this, even comments on Slashdot are like this. Choose a random Slashdot article and browse at -1. You're sure to find many worthless comments for every worthwhile comment. As for Twitter, I tend not to follow the inane Twitter posters, so I don't see those posts in my Twitter-feed. Like any online tool, Twitter is only what you make of it.

You mean like address mining? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332355)

Address mining using malware (viruses, botnets) has been a regular part of email spam for years. It comes in and out of fashion, but it's been over a decade since it's been possible to treat unsolicited links and attachments even from people you know as "safe".

The article (1)

Raenex (947668) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331843)

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The MySQL error was: Too many connections.

Currently, the username is cw_blogs and the database server is 10.10.10.93.

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For more help, see the Installation and upgrading handbook [drupal.org] . If you are unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your hosting provider.

I don't understand the premise... (4, Insightful)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331859)

You can no longer innocently follow a link because some quasi-stranger tweeted it to you without being wary

Let me fix that for you:

You can't innocently follow a link because some quasi-stranger tweeted it to you without being wary

Why would you, or anyone, have ever assumed otherwise?

has been worthless for a long time already ... (1)

frogzilla (1229188) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331865)

As far as I can tell the ratio of useless to useful "tweets" on twitter has been much higher than two out of every three for a long time already. This is a novelty site with no long term value.

Two out of three?!? (1)

Skim123 (3322) | more than 5 years ago | (#26331963)

Will tweets become like email, with two out of every three just worthless spam?

What I wouldn't give for one out of three e-mails not being spam. The ratio for me is more 97 out of every 100 e-mails are spam.

Re:Two out of three?!? (1)

Nathrael (1251426) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332223)

In this case, you probably need a (better) spam filter...

Spam filters are part of the problem. (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332307)

I've at times had to block entire countries from my SMTP server at the IP level because just handling the first level filtering for spam was costing me as much as $750 a month in traffic surcharges.

People don't see the amount of spam out there, but it still has a cost... not only in direct costs (bandwidth, servers, man-hours) but also in things like lost and ignored mail.

I love twitter but... (1)

kkiller (945601) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332165)

I quite enjoy using twitter as an easy way to keeping in touch with people and making contacts, but they need to develop a trust and rating system of some kind. Trying to follow a busy "channel" is impossible when it's being bombarded with crap. Because channels are effectively filtered tweets grepped via a search engine, there's no uniform way of rating down a user who insists on trolling or spamming. Have a look at #gaza - i bet about 3 out of 10 tweets are worth reading.

Can you convince people there is money in it? (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332173)

Then yes, it will be spammed to oblivion. Any method of transmitting information is a potential source of spam and becomes an actual one as soon as the potential ROI nears the cost of abusing it.

Counter-attack (1)

Bazman (4849) | more than 5 years ago | (#26332265)

Can we not now flood the collector site with endless bogus twitter auths? I imagine it's probably already slashdotted anyway...

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