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Using Your BlackBerry As a Modem On Linux

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the repurposing-for-the-win dept.

Wireless Networking 135

ruphus13 writes "Now, the suits and the geeks can unite — Barry allows BlackBerrys to serve as modems for Linux machines. From the news post, 'Barry, created by open source software vendor Net Direct, lets you not only sync your contacts and calendar but also use your smartphone as a computer modem. Sure, it's not as fast as T1 or cable, but you can't beat it if you're stuck somewhere with no Internet access. Currently, there are packages available for Ubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, and Fedora (although syncing is not supported on Fedora 9). Most older BlackBerrys work just fine with Barry, but the newest generation of devices — the Storm and Bold — are not yet fully supported.'"

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Word. (0, Offtopic)

Golliwogg (1444293) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343457)

Dat shit be crazy, dawg. Fo sho.

Is this really news. (2, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343463)

I have done this with Mac OS X and a little Samsung Sync. Years ago, for phones that allow you to put software on it. There really isn't much stopping you from doing this.

Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for years (3, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343539)

My first experience was using a normal, run of the mill cell phone that had an IR port as a modem -- back in high school. That was beyond annoying, because the alignment had to be withing about 5 degrees, but it worked, and back then 9.6kbps was not unbearable even for the web. These days I do it with Bluetooth when I am traveling, and I can really only check my email via POP3.

Linux? How about CBM Basic! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343951)

I plugged a rectangular modulator/demodulator thingy into my Commodore 64, then attached that to the telephone jack in the wall! We didn't HAVE a cell phone in those days!

Now get off my lawn!

Re:Linux? How about CBM Basic! (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346913)

    Yours had a phone jack?

    I had to dial the number, and then set the handset into the acoustic coupler. I still don't believe in all this wireless stuff. If I can't see the wire, I don't believe it's connected! How do I know I'm talking to the other person on the end of the wire, and not an impersonator. If my wife were to call me and ask for a gallon of milk, who's to say it's not a KGB agent trying to lure me to kill me and destroy our American way of life. You know those damned reds are out to take over the world.

    Excuse me while I tighten my tin foil hat, and check the seals on my backyard fallout shelter. You can never be too prepared.

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (4, Informative)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344211)

Bluetooth to my cell is a saviour in low-service areas where I can't find a quick access point.

I've been doing this for quite some time as well, although some of the new usb-attached modems from local cell service providers are very nice (and work with Linux).

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (2, Insightful)

Thalagyrt (851883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345219)

I used to do that with my old T-Mobile phone, but now I just have a Sprint PCI-E mini card built in. It's a hell of a lot more convenient than using a tethered phone.

I wrote up a script that uses traceroute to determine whether or not I have Internet connectivity via 802.11 or my wired Ethernet jack, and if not, it automatically connects the Sprint card. When I have 802.11 connectivity it traceroutes to the nearest Google box every 30 seconds or so and if it notices that I'm not going out through Sprint (yay interface priority) it disconnects the Sprint card. My laptop's WiFi switch turns the entire shebang off, so it's kind of like a "I can has interwebs?" switch. :)

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (1)

Windows_NT (1353809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346019)

I found a module for the linux kernel amr-modem, which alows you to send modem commands to your phone. I have my Motorola Razr hooked up via USB, and linxu automagically loaded the module, and then i could talk to my phone via Terminal. Although im not sure if you could use this as internet access (thats what i was trying to do, but never succeeded), but basically being able to use my phone as a modem for my laptop. Great idea, except AT&T is kind of expensive to do that.

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345781)

They SHOULD work with any OS, in order to make the install under Windows easy all of the cell modems I've seen in the last 5 years or so show up as a comm port USB adapter, then it's generally as simple as finding the dial string for your provider.

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (1)

Eponymous Bastard (1143615) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348345)

Try it on Linux. They probably show up as /dev/devttyACM# . Or I think that's what it showed for the last time I tried it with a USB phone. You could use it as an EVDO modem, and even send/receive SMS directly with it.

Of course, blackberrys aren't recognized automatically.

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26348513)

They SHOULD work with any OS, in order to make the install under Windows easy all of the cell modems I've seen in the last 5 years or so show up as a comm port USB adapter, then it's generally as simple as finding the dial string for your provider.

AFAIK it's #777 on all the sprint modems, I know it is on mine. Most of them work using the usbserial module in the linux kernel and don't require any extra drivers/setup, If you're lucky enough to have one of the novatel wireless ones like I do, you can use the option module (also in the main kernel tree) to get the modem working at full speed, which is actually faster than the local DSL in my area.

Re:Mac OS X? I've been doing this in Linux for yea (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348875)

Some providers require a username/password where username is generally 10-digit# and password is always the same.

Re:Is this really news. (4, Informative)

conlaw (983784) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344417)

I agree that this isn't news. Five years ago, I could do this from my Blacberry using software from RIM and T-Mobile. The great part was that the Blackberry kept on recharging while I using it as a modem.

Re:Is this really news. (2, Insightful)

Lord Jester (88423) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345489)

You did it on Linux five years ago?

Re:Is this really news. Yes -- Old News. (1)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345623)

This is really old news, you've been able to do this in Linux by abstracting the BB through bluetooth for quite some time. Here [blackberryforums.com] is a guide I wrote last January (when I had a BB Pearl for 2 weeks), and I've been doing the same process with my Moto Q smartphone for about a year prior to that.

Re:Is this really news. Yes -- Old News. (1, Offtopic)

Windows_NT (1353809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346051)

kind of off topic, but go through every post, and read BlackBerry or BB as Butt buddy ;)

Re:Is this really news. (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346543)

I've had a 3g phone connected to my laptop via Bluetooth for a year and a half now. I've since then enjoyed unlimited 384kbps net connection wherever I go, except non-3g areas, where I get EDGE.

So, this wasn't news over an year ago, why would it be now?

Re:Is this really news. (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346573)

Additional note: Nokia phone, a Nokia cellphone modem driver on Windows, and a special ppp script on Linux, creating the device with inbuilt Ubuntu bluetooth. Both work fine. I've clocked in over 700 hours connected after I bought the system.

Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1, Informative)

fruey (563914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343477)

Most corporate comms policies I have seen where Blackberries are given strictly forbid the use of work mobile phones as modems for their laptops, because data charges are so high.

One of the reasons RIM carved such a niche in corporate phones/PDAs is the "eat as much as you want" (more or less) email access; surfing the net via GSM/TDMA/3G/UMTS is not part of the deal, and billed by your provider as data by the Kb or minute.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343569)

What corporations are getting Blackberries w/out unlimited data plans?

Anyways, I've been tethering my BB with Linux for a while now just using Bluetooth (no special drivers needed). It's slow, but faster than dialup.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343663)

Obviously quite a few, because I know several Blackberry owners and clearly unlimited data is just not a priority for any people outside of 24/7 tech support...

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346533)

We have ~350 BB handsets on 3 different providers and they ALL have unlimited data, I just can't imagine the possible overage charges without it!

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

trum4n (982031) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343813)

You have to remember that ALL "unlimited data plans" are just false advertising. They are ALL lying.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

trum4n (982031) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343883)

Forgot to mention. Verizon will kick you if you do Phone as Modem. And they charge you the Early Termination fee. RAZRs have supported PAM from day one. But Verizon kicked me for connecting once to check my email. Took me 2 lawyers and 3 months to get back on. Verizon is the only service that works at my house, or id be on sprint in a second.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345011)

Forgot to mention. Verizon will kick you if you do Phone as Modem.

Since Verizon has a higher-priced plan that specifically allows you to tether your Blackberry, while the cheaper plan you were paying for specifically forbids it, you not only violated their TOS, you did so in a way that very directly takes money away from them. It's no surprise they kicked you off.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345817)

It's no surprise they kicked you off.

Only because they are a company with atrocious customer service. A smart company would have a salesperson call the customer and try to sell them the more expensive plan before canceling the contract.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345327)

Verizon is evil, no doubt, but Sprint is much more evil by far.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

Lord Jester (88423) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345555)

Worse. They are evil as well as incompetent.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (2, Interesting)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343579)

Cell providers also routinely filter data traffic, because they want to charge extra for mobile Internet and fax plans. Verizon definitely does this, and T-mobile kills fax but not dialup users. How this is not a violation of the Sherman act is a mystery to me.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (3, Interesting)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343651)

They have lots and lots of money.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (5, Informative)

qmaqdk (522323) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344451)

They have lots and lots of money.

Sorry, but how can this comment be modded +3 Insightful?

Better mod this one +5 Informative:

"The Universe is very big!"

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345837)

"The Universe is very big!"

You know, you might be on to something here - I'd really never looked at the universe in quite that way before. Mod parent insightful! :)

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (3, Informative)

Zerth (26112) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344219)

I just got a Storm with an All-you-can-eat(but don't go over 5 GB/month or else!) data plan, but I think it explicitly excepts using it as a modem.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (2, Informative)

charlesnw (843045) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344317)

15.00 a month from verizon makes it available to tether. This is on a business plan.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

techdojo (1409685) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346335)

While traveling, I signed up for the tethering plan on a Samsung Glyde. It was expensive, but when I was in an EVDO with at least one or two bars, I had no trouble consisently getting ~680Kbps down.

I have to admit, their network really is better. My brother picked up an iPhone and the voice quality sucks and he's constantly dropping calls. My wife also has AT&T and doesn't have the voice quality issues, but still has dead spots and dropped calls.

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http://techdojo.org/ [techdojo.org]

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

charlesnw (843045) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344273)

I'll say it again: T-mobile USA has an unlimited data plan (HSDPA/edge/gprs) for 24.99 a month. 9.00 a month more to get exchange access. I got it working in linux and blogged on it at http://adjix.com/if6u [adjix.com] It's really not that expensive compared to the other carriers.

No Filtering by Telecoms on corporate blackberry (1)

mrops (927562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26347205)

I work for a telecoms, and they are handicapped because traffic is encrypted all the way to your corporate BES (Business Enterprise Server). They don't know what they hell you are doing on a blackberry, running a VoIP client or simply browsing. They can not do tiered charging or DPI. No tiered internet either. booohoohoo.

This is also why BlackBerry is such a corporate hit. Privacy is pretty much guaranteed over the wireless channel.

Now now, before you go to that porn site, your BES server admins can do pretty much what your companies corporate policy desires.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

charlesnw (843045) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344223)

T-mobile USA has an unlimited data plan (HSDPA/edge/gprs) for 24.99 a month. 9.00 a month more to get exchange access.

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (1)

RenderSeven (938535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344621)

Got my Blackberry (Pearl) at Sams Club and got a deal for unlimited data including email browsing and modem, through TMobile. Not the fastest connection as you'd expect but certainly good enough for email, and its 128kbps more than nothing. Ive been at client sites that had very restrictive net access, and routed entire subnets through my laptop and phone to get some engineering services working, like remote desktop and TRAC/subversion at remote sites. Again its slow, but it was way better than nothing and easier to implement than convincing IT staff to open holes in their firewalls (also easier to convince IT to open pinholes when they realize you completely bypassed their firewalls).

Re:Modem use forbidden by corporate policy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26348177)

I use my blackberry as my sole internet connection. Alltel has a decent plan that doesn't charge you to use it as a modem. It's as fast as my cable connection was and cheaper. This will finally allow me to connect directly with my linux boxes without having to share the connection through my windows machine.

Not worth it... (1)

MrCrassic (994046) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343505)

If it's anything as slow and difficult as it is on Windows, then it's really not worth the effort. Tethering a BB on Windows, even without a corporate policy, was exceedingly difficult and the speeds were pretty horrible.

Re:Not worth it... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343567)

Linux is the Windows of the Unix world.

Its followers have coded all kinds of fancy-schmancy apps and tethers and gadgets which are ultimately no good because the system as a whole can't run a GUI for 5 minutes without freezing.

Re:Not worth it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344001)

Linux is the Windows of the Unix world.

So what's the Unix of the Windows world then? OS/2?

Re:Not worth it... (1)

thermian (1267986) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344163)

cygwin...

Re:Not worth it... (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343601)

Surfing from my Nokia 3G phone using it as a modem gets me about 512kbps which is reasonable - about 64KB/s which means most web pages render in less than 10 secs...

Outside of 3G coverage it's painful though. In any case, on a Blackberry you can already install GMail, Opera Mini & you have corp email... not bad.

The rest of the functionality (sync, charging, etc) seems way more interesting. Most hotels & cafes offer free or inexpensive Wifi anyway if you need your fix.

Re:Not worth it... (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348903)

Hotels, inexpensive Wifi, right.... Try more like $8-20 per day for most of the places I've stayed if it wasn't free.

Re:Not worth it... (1)

RenderSeven (938535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344721)

Tethering a BB on Windows was exceedingly difficult...

Huh. Worked flawlessly for me. And Blackberry support was just outstanding, talked me through the setup step-by-step and didnt even talk down to me. Now as long as my phone is within 10' Bluetooth range it will connect via BT and dial-up if no other network connections are available.

I just got a Dell Mini9 with Ubuntu (and love it) but really wanted the same BT modem capabilities. I cant wait to try this 'Barry' thingy out!

Ebuilds, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343515)

... Im waiting for them.

SLOW VERY SLOW (0)

compwizrd (166184) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343557)

My crackberry 7520 is about a third the speed of dialup, with much higher latency..

can't picture using this as a modem.

Re:SLOW VERY SLOW (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343615)

9.6kbps is acceptable for email access, assuming POP3 (though your blackberry will already do this, so what would be the point?). It is also decent for IM, although Jabber is too bandwidth heavy so you'd want to stick with something like IRC.

Also, this IS dialup, it just isn't v.92 56k dialup.

Re:SLOW VERY SLOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343921)

I bet your not on CDMA/EVDO of alltel/verizon and the like. I get 3mb/sec which is not too bad, I don't use a crackberry though so perhaps they suck at it.

Re:SLOW VERY SLOW (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345097)

My crackberry 7520 is about a third the speed of dialup, with much higher latency..

That is a bummer. On the other hand, the number of times I've paid oingo boingo (or somesuch) $7 for just a few minutes of WiFi at an airport to sync my Outlook in/outboxes during a layover, the bar isn't very high.

On the other other hand, as soon as somebody sends me a 7MB powerpoint attachment, I would be hosed.

Using your penis as a hammer or a screwdriver (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343561)

Conclusion: it hurts!

Re:Using your penis as a hammer or a screwdriver (2, Funny)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343681)

Nonetheless someone, somewhere, gets a hardon just thinking about it and absolutely cannot go on unless he finds a way to do it.

Re:Using your penis as a hammer or a screwdriver (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344631)

Yes, but a girl's gotta have her standards, Chris.

Uhm... (1)

Blice (1208832) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343607)

Why? Can't we already just do..

modload usbnet
dhclient usb0

???

Welcome to the 21st century (4, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343649)

9 years late, we can welcome RIM to the new millenium.

Seriously, most geeks will have used cell phones as modems for years. I certainly did it back in the last millennium. In the old days, IR was the way to connect. Then when you got fed up trying to keep the phone pointed at the computer you got a cable.

Bluetooth replaced all that nonsense. And, today, we have software that turns your phone into a Wireless access point, allowing you to share your connection with the entire room.

Here's hoping I never have a job that forces me to give all that up for a Blackberry!

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343811)

Uhhh, this is just Linux. Blackberries have been tetherable since lord knows when, but it's been windows only.

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343901)

Likewise.

And why is it not as fast as cable.? 3G over here in europe can be used with a variety of laptop/phone combinations and is really quite snappy.

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344201)

Exactly.

I'm currently paying 10 euros per month for unlimited 384kbps connection (drops to 128 when no 3G towers are nearby but that's rare). Extremely handy.

You can get up to 1M-2M connection but with steeper price naturally. They are mostly selling these for 3G USB modems but one can get it added to normal cellphone contract too. Allows me to browse both on my phone and with laptop without extra charges.

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (1)

Dan East (318230) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343997)

I've been using my Blackberry as a modem for a long time, both with Windows and OSX, and both over Bluetooth and USB.

So this appears to be a purely Linux thing. This shouldn't just pertain to Blackberry, but pretty much any phone that can act as a modem. The Razr makes a decent modem, again over Bluetooth or USB.

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (1)

desperado1984 (1400449) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344245)

What software turns a phone into an access point? pdanet just works ad hoc

Re:Welcome to the 21st century (1)

JStegmaier (1051176) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344815)

WM Wifi Router does the trick for Windows Mobile phones.

Ok except for the cost (2, Informative)

sheldon (2322) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343747)

I tried to do this with my Pearl when we went on vacation. Thought I could use my laptop on the trip when we wanted to find where to go, etc.

First roadblock is the cost. I pay $30 for my Blackberry data plan, can browse the internet... unlimited data they say. Except if you want to tether it to a computer that is another $30.

Then half way through the trip it just plain stopped working. I had to "reboot" the Pearl to correct the problem, where rebooting means pulling the battery out.

Otherwise I actually felt the speeds were decent, faster than dialup... probably 120k/sec, and this was over old-school GSM(not 3G).

Re:Ok except for the cost (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343949)

Old Skool GSM is 9.6kbps, aligned with the fax standard. Anything above that is something else (maybe UTMS?)

Re:Ok except for the cost (1)

haagmm (859285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345851)

the word is "EDGE" PEARL doesnt do UTMS or EVDO

Re:Ok except for the cost (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344337)

You must be on AT&T. I have the same setup (BB Pearl, AT&T) and you are also limited to 5GB of data on their "unlimited" plans, whether via the phone's browser or tethering. They advertise on the main web page and in print ads that it's unlimited data, then when you actually read the EULA before confirming the purchase it's listed as limited to 5GB.

Granted, I doubt I'll ever use 5GB either in-phone or tethered (I don't download big files on the go) but it's something they should put out there in the open.

One more thing, the 5GB ceiling even applies to their "unlimited" $60/month laptop connect cards and dongles.

Re:Ok except for the cost (2, Informative)

charlesnw (843045) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344353)

May I ask who your carrier is? T-mobile USA it's 24.99 for unlimited data, and it tethers easily. I wrote a howto on it at http://adjix.com/if6u [adjix.com] It's 9.00 for exchange access.

Not practical... (3, Interesting)

NineNine (235196) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343779)

This just isn't really practical. I just came back from a trip in Central America, and Internet access was easier to find than land or cell phone service. I have a feeling it's that way in lots of developing countries. My phone was useless. There were very very few land lines, but I could hop on one of many computers at hostels or Internet cafes and check my email.

Re:Not practical... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344217)

This just isn't really practical. I just came back from a trip in Central America, and Internet access was easier to find than land or cell phone service. I have a feeling it's that way in lots of developing countries. My phone was useless. There were very very few land lines, but I could hop on one of many computers at hostels or Internet cafes and check my email.

It depends on what you understand as a "developing country".

At least in places I know in Brazil, there's no problems with roaming from foreign operators. You also can buy a SIM card in a store next door if needed.

Land lines are not a problem either and are, naturally, cheaper to use than mobile ones (but if you're not staying, what's the point).

Re:Not practical... (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 5 years ago | (#26349331)

As it is now, you are probably right, but I think that landlines will go away as new technologies emerge.

As far as TV is concerned: in Germany the remote parts were scheduled first for DVB-T, if I remember correctly. In remote areas it can be cheaper to just put a few antennas up than to upgrade the cable/telephone connection of every single farm.

A lot also depends on the dataplans available. In Germany competition is doing its work nicely at the moment: decent "unlimited" 10 GB dataplans for UMTS-modems are available for 15-25 eur per month. For me it was attractive enough to dump my land-line completely.

G1 For The Win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26343805)

Tethering works just fine on my G1. Set it up as a wifi AP and off you go. 3G means I get reasonable speed, although EDGE isn't so bad in a pinch. Caveat.. I do pay for the unlimited data plan.

Re:G1 For The Win (1)

RebootKid (712142) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344835)

I would be very interested in knowing how you did this. I currently use Tetherbot for my G1, but loathe having to hook up the cable, etc. Got any pointers for me?

USB Charging? (1)

EdwinBoyd (810701) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343895)

The article mentions that the software allows a linux laptop to charge the battery.

My eee has always been able to do this without any software, anyone else?

Re:USB Charging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344275)

Can someone post a link to instructions on setting this up?

Re:USB Charging? (1)

charlesnw (843045) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344389)

It's more of a kernel module thing. The EEE distro might have included that module in it's kernel build. It's not an upstream module, or at least it wasn't last I checked. Barry includes the module and is installed as part of the suite.

Re:USB Charging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26346053)

Blackberrys generally require a specific USB driver to be able to conveniently charge from your USB port. I don't know of any other devices which specifically require this, but I believe it has got something to do with requiring a specific charge via USB :-/. Or that, at least, is my experience under various Windows flavours and Debian derivitives - YMMV.

Re:USB Charging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26347795)

I once forgot my charger on a business trip. I plugged my Pearl into my laptop, and only booted to the BIOS (didn't want to wait for it to shutdown in the morning.) It only got to 95% overnight, but it worked.

Re:USB Charging? (1)

Enry (630) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348525)

I have a BlackBerry Curve (business) and RAZR (personal) that both charge via USB. I've never had a problem getting either to charge under Linux, but doing so from Windows requires installing the Mororola/RIM drivers first.

I just make my life easy and stick with Linux.

Tethering with the Curve is pretty simple over bluetooth, though not as simple as the USB WWAN dongle that's available now.

Re:USB Charging? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26347489)

Same here. Stock Ubuntu 8.10 install, even with the default kernel.

I did find an e-mail in a listserv archive that said something about a patch to 2.6.20, and mentioned a small driver to facilitate BB charging. If you're running Ubuntu 8.04 or higher, I'm pretty sure that has 2.6.20 or higher. I didn't save it or pay much attention, because I was looking for tethering.

Re:USB Charging? (1)

Eponymous Bastard (1143615) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348447)

You probably had the module preinstalled? Or did you do a clean install?

My blackberry (8320) will not charge on my Ubuntu laptop. It won't charge on Windows before installing the drivers either. I found bpowerd for linux before this article, but I haven't got around to installing it, since the binaries are only for 7.10 and 8.04 and I usually charge from a wall socket anyway.

Other phones too ? (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 5 years ago | (#26343907)

Is it possible to use other cell phones as well as modem for Linux boxes ? My old Nokia connects with a USB cable and works as a modem on my windows laptop thanks to a special driver, but I never tried it under Linux. I don't think Nokia provides Linux drivers.

Re:Other phones too ? (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344007)

One word: VirtualBox.

Re:Other phones too ? (2, Informative)

Michael Meissner (520083) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344403)

I just switched to a Nokia 6133 using t-mobile, and I've set things up so the laptop connects to the phone via bluetooth, and I set up a normal PPP connection using GPRS/EDGE. I also have the cable, but it is more convenient to use bluetooth (however, I discovered when my house lost power for 5 days and I needed to check email, that the bluetooth drains the battery much faster). I do have to subscribe to the unlimited data service on t-mobile, and speed depends on whether I can get GPRS or EDGE. Here is one such site that documents how to set things up. http://koti.kapsi.fi/mcfrisk/linux_gprs.html [kapsi.fi]

Re:Other phones too ? (1)

firewalkergr (1263192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344765)

Yes with bluetooth. I've be doing it with Nokia phones and Linux for 2-3 years.

Re:Other phones too ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26344893)

During my recent I-95 road trip with my new laptop, I realized I had forgot to install ActiveSync in XP. You need the RDNIS drivers that come with ActiveSync to use internet sharing in XP so I couldn't use my WinMo HTC smartphone's internet sharing.

I had installed Fedora before I left so I figured what-the-hell. I started the internet sharing app on the phone and to my surprise, Fedora recognized the connection with no config necessary. I downloaded the 7MB ActiveSync installer @ 8KB/s (EDGE) and went back to XP...

Tried it in Ubuntu the other day and it works there too... no clue how long it's been supported.

Samsung Blackjack II (1)

jdb2 (800046) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346639)

I bought one of these several months ago and set it up as a USB modem quite easily. AT&T gives you the instructions for tethering this device using PPP and Windows Dialup Networking. Specifically, they give you the modem initialization string, the username and password, and the number you have to "dial" to set up your connection. All of this can easily be moved over to Linux. I easily got it working using KPPP and a 'sudo route add default ppp0' command. The connection is great : 3G with an average downstream bandwidth of 1.5 - 2.0 Mbps , plus where I am, I get 4 bars -- eg. max signal strength.

Anyway, that's my 2b'10 cents.

jdb2

Re:Samsung Blackjack II (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348597)

I use At&T also to tether (iPhone) and I'm a but confused about the PPP, isn't that used for dial-up? I thought on EDGE/3G there was no need to dial? I certainly have never noticed needing to.

I've been doing this without Barry... (2, Informative)

dino2gnt (1072530) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344095)

I've been doing this with my Curve 8320 without Barry for some time now, via blueZ and rfcomm under Gentoo on my laptop. It's relatively stable and has enough bandwidth for casual web surfing. I was able to get up to 20KBps down / 11KBps up over EDGE.

Call me when cellphones can act as p2p modems (1)

Babba 0'Kelvin (465200) | more than 5 years ago | (#26344469)

It would be news when I can send data and text messages over my unlimited (on nights & weekends) voice connection when I don't want to exceed my unnecessarily limited [slashdot.org] data quota.

LinuxGuides for BlackBerrys (1)

wehe (135130) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345271)

TuxMobil provides a survey of Linux compatibility and configuration guides for different Blackberry models [tuxmobil.org] . Currently only four guides are listed. Not much yet, but a start. But I guess the number of guides in the TuxMobil Linux and mobile phone section [tuxmobil.org] will increase soon.

USB aircard faster? (1)

Pros_n_Cons (535669) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345305)

I'm on a sprint USB aircard and get about 1.5down and 380 up with a latency of around 90. I use this connection in my home with a cradlepoint router. Which will also tether your blackberrys including storm for those of you running something other than ubuntu or fedora. My question is I've heard tethering slows down the connection is that true? Id rather pay $60 for a phone i can tether than $60 for an aircard that only does internet.

Also back in october? I heard at&t's ceo said they will be offering tethering soon for the iphone has anyone else heard of this or have any updates? I might just do that!

Nokia does it just fine (1)

jcarkeys (925469) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345475)

I plugged in my shiny new Nokia E71 into my Ubuntu 8.10 machine and it automatically started configuring it. I have no need to use it in this manner so I stopped it, but it seemed like it would work fine.

A word of caution (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26345639)

For AT&T customers in the US with 'unlimited' data plans, this is very likely against the terms of service [att.com] . As long as you keep data usage light, you'll probably be fine - but if you start doing massive downloads and they look closer, your service may get terminated.

From the link:

Prohibited and permissable uses

... Furthermore, plans(unless specifically designated for tethering usage) cannot be used for any applications that tether the device (through use of, including without limitation, connection kits, other phone/PDA-to computer accessories, Bluetooth® or any other wireless technology) to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for any purpose

Re:A word of caution (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 5 years ago | (#26348715)

Very good advice, but I would like to add to it. The key is consistency, if for instance you own some sort on low end smartphone and usually use 10mb a month and suddenly you start using 2gb that is a huge red flag. On the other hand if you are a power user (Most iPhone, many BB, and other high end models) then you are probably already using a few hundred megs at least and the bounce in usage will be far less noticeable. The last thing to remember is no matter what NEVER exceed 5gb of data in a month, this is the maximum for ANY data plan (non-biz) and if you go past that, I can guarantee your bill will be looked at carefully and you may even receive a call.

!News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26345667)

I got my 8830 in October of 2007 and have been using it as a bluetooth modem on my Linux laptop since day 1.

Barry has been around for quite some time now, but I'm glad it's finally getting a little attention.

Get one for Ozzy (1)

Maniacal (12626) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346147)

Now people will be able to read his e-mails!!

Good way to get booted from your provider (2, Informative)

kkffjj (1339025) | more than 5 years ago | (#26346615)

even if you have "unlimited" there are TOS that forbid this. They have all done it.

What about Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26347535)

Any one knows of a way to use Blackberry as an internet modem in Windows?

Pathetic ... (1)

ianare (1132971) | more than 5 years ago | (#26347641)

Seriously, it is. Nowdays, any 'smart' phone should be able to do this, and without any weird command line voodoo (i.e. messing with AT commands).

Case in point : My Nokia E61i was really good about it. Here are the steps : 1) plug into Ubuntu, 2) surf web. No drivers to download, no configuration needed, it just works.
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