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Hippies Say WiFi Network Is Harming Their Chakras

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the what's-with-all-the-negative-waves dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 432

Anti-Globalism writes "A group of hippies is complaining that a recently installed WiFi mesh network in the UK village of Glastonbury is causing health problems. To combat the signals from the Wi-Fi hotspots, the hippies have placed orgone generators around the antennae." Although there have been many studies that show no correlation between WiFi and health issues the hippies say, "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

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That's odd... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368667)

I've been saying hippies are harming my wifi network for years. Damn hippies.

Re:That's odd... (3, Funny)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368681)

Damn hippies.

*I'M* a hippie, you insensitive clod!

THOSE hippies, however, are morons.

Re:That's odd... (4, Insightful)

Torodung (31985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368741)

If you're a moron, you're not really a hippie. You're just a moron who acts like a hippie.

You should know that! I'm starting to wonder if you should turn in your Hippie card and "tea set." ;^)

Re:That's odd... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368849)

If I was a nigger, I could drive a Cadillac with class
My pocket stuffed with welfare checks, and I could sit on my big black ass
Now you take a nigger, he aint nobody's fool
He doesn't buy any gasoline, to drive his kids to school

Damn, i wish i was a nigger

Our government has gone crazy, I'd change things if I could
If I was only a nigger, I could afford to live in a white neighborhood
Oh the things that I could do, if i was black and Hell-bent
I could send my kids to college, and it wouldn't cost me one damn cent

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

The wife and I were down on our luck, we were really getting uptight
They said at the welfare office, "You aint black, you're white."
Oh how I've tried to get a job, a diploma I had with pride
The post office man laughed, and said "You're not dark enough to even qualify"

Damn, I wish i was a nigger

I took a civil service exam, and passed it without shame
A nigger took one next to me, he couldnt even write his own name
The nigger, he got the job, now he's government top brass
He couldn't qualify for a trash truck, while I'm out on the street on my ass

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

If I was a Jesse Jackson, I'd be nobody's slob
Wearing $500.00 dollar suits, that nigger hasn't even got a job
If I was Barack Obama, I could sit back and relax
And when sworn in as President, I could paint The White House black

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

If I was a jig-a-boo, I could find me my roots
With a afro big as a watermelon, and a pair of white disco boots
If I was only dark complected, I could stand tall in this life
I could live high off the hog, just me and my white wife

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

Things used to be segregated, but things are a little off key
I've never seen a white man as head of the NAACP
It aint that I don't like a nigger, if I've rubbed you wrong by chance
Take a look at that mistletoe hanging on the seat of my pants

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

If I was a kinky top, I could be a Martin Luther King
I'd have me a vision on a mountain top, my song the whole world would sing
I could have me a peace march on the streets of Memphis, Tennessee
I could tear up the whole damn city, and the police wouldn't dare stop me

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

A lot of things in life I know, but one thing I cant figure
Why a nigger can call me a honkey and I cant call a nigger, a nigger
If I was a jungle bunny, I could ring a golden bell
I could be a Mohammed Ali, and be loved by Howard Cosell

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

If I was a you-bangy, 7 foot tall and lean,
I could be a famous player on the Washington basketball team
If I was only chocolate brown, I could have me some turnip greens
A possum fat and watermelon, chitlens and a pot of butter beans

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

Now when Martin Luther King was buried in Washington with class
They put him face down in his box, so the politicians could kiss his ass
I guess its just politics, but it sure gets my goat
Kiss assing with a nigger, just to get his vote

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

If i was only a burread, I'd live high on the hill
Selling cocaine and prostitutes, and popping all kinds of pills
Now take the NAACP, they can march and raise all kinds of hell
Let the KKK start to move, and they'll all wind up in jail

Damn, I wish I was a nigger

I dreamed my life was over, I heard Saint Peter say,
"Today we're taken on the niggers, you've gotta go the other way"
Then I heard the Devil, he said "I heard what Peter had to say
But I'm sorry to tell you son, Today in Hell is Nigger Day."

Damn, don't you wish you were a nigger?

I'm going back to the hills of Arkansas, where they don't have those not damn one sided nigger peace marches
Protesters, welfare check grabbers, I'm gonna plant me some turnip greens in a watermelon patch
Raise me a hog, and a big fat possum. I said yes I am you mother

captcha: coveted

Re:That's odd... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368903)

You long to hate yourself. You are your own nigger.

Re:That's odd... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368987)

I'm a hippy too. they are not morons. How is what they are doing any different than ingesting the flesh and blood of christ in church. Oh, I know, Christ doesn't protect against electromagnetic radiation which the common person (in the civilised US) has no way of avoiding. These hippies apparantly would much rather not live with the pollutants they are absorbing, but they have no reasonable recourse. They resort to psuedo-religious magic to compensate for their inability to control their environment.

If you believe in mind over matter or more pragmatically the placebo affect, then what they are doing makes quite a bit of sense. (have you seen how much gold costs these days? Especially for a poor hippy.)

Finally, if I have to listen to people complain about second hand smoke so much that I feel like a goddamned leppar then why can't I complain even the least little bit about electromagnetic radiation? I seriously doubt that if their were a scientifically founded protection for EM radiation, these people wouldn't use it.

Re:That's odd... (4, Insightful)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369133)

These hippies apparantly would much rather not live with the pollutants they are absorbing, but they have no reasonable recourse.

Considering how long radio, TV, cell phones, and other RF sources have been pumping out just as much juice through their bodies/karma/astral-selves, I'm finding it hard to be sympathetic for them. Shades of Don Quixote....

Re:That's odd... (4, Insightful)

LoadWB (592248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369283)

True. I have known a lot of hippies who love TV, radio, and even cell phones. So what is so oppressive about WiFi versus the rest of this?

Shut up! (5, Funny)

fucket (1256188) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368685)

You can't own the electromagetic spectrum, man.

Re:Shut up! (5, Funny)

n0dna (939092) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368709)

"I can. But that's because I'm not a penniless hippie." /futurama

Re:Shut up! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369215)

You can't own the electromagetic spectrum, man.

In Soviet Russia electromagnetic spectrum owns you!*

*Apparently this also applies in Glastonbury.

Re:Shut up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369367)

The cost is $35/yr/person for the reported cost of $15000/yr and 422 people using it. That's a pretty good price for broadband access. Pretty much anyone but the most penny-less hippies could own it!

Ironic (1)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368687)

Isn't ironic that hippies are harmful to my health.

Not Ironic (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368713)

No, it would be a coincidence, even if they are harmful to your health.

Ironic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368843)

Yes, it would be ironic. Most of what hippies do is justified in part on human or animal health grounds. Environmentalism, organic food, alternative medicine, yoga - need I go on?

And it would be ironic of someone who defined themselves in terms of striving for better health actually did damage to someone's health. Think doctor giving you a cold, and you'll get the drift.

"Orgone Generators" (5, Informative)

Suddenly_Dead (656421) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368689)

FTFA:

One man has even begun making orgone generators, which use crystals, semi-precious stones and gold to purportedly put out positive energy to combat the negative vibes flooding the town from the Wi-Fi base stations.

Elsewhere: [orgonegenerators.ca]

Orgone Generators change negative energy from microwaves, TV's, cell phones, computers, fluorescent lighting, automotive wiring, large electrical structures, high voltage lines and step-down electrical transformers, etc. into pure or positive life energy.

Positive Orgone is also known as Chi(China), Prana(India), and Ki(Japan).

The basic and simplified theory of how the orgone devices work is that the negative energy is attracted into the device by the organic component and then it gets bounced back and forth between the resin and suspended metal particles. Crystalline structures within the mix cause the energy to get organized and re-radiated as a positive, clean energy.

Oh yes, these sound like reasonable people.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

Rei (128717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368749)

I'm sure that before they made those claims, they consulted all the sages they could find in yellow pages.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369063)

I'm surprised they kept with it after the Mayan panoramas on their pyramid pajamas didn't help their little problem.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (3, Insightful)

Gandalf_Greyhame (44144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368773)

FTFA:

One man has even begun making orgone generators, which use crystals, semi-precious stones and gold to purportedly put out positive energy to combat the negative vibes flooding the town from the Wi-Fi base stations.

I am just sitting here wondering how long it is going to take someone to just pinch them all... surely there would have to be at least a few bucks in gold there. If not, it'd still be fun to pinch them and place them all around the town in people's gardens, on shop roofs, etc.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (2)

mofag (709856) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368847)

Hey Gandalf, its no wonder they call you "the grey" - you can be quite mean at times.

Actually I thought you meant pinch the hippies to wake them up. Only later (time dilates) did I realise you were referring to burglary.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (4, Funny)

Gandalf_Greyhame (44144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368875)

nah, I don't want to pinch them to wake them up... I want to give them a bloody good bitch slapping and tell them to get a job

Re:"Orgone Generators" (2, Informative)

ubernostrum (219442) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368799)

Martin Gardner's essay "Wilhelm Reich and the Orgone" is highly recommended reading on the topic (as is, well, pretty much anything he writes debunking pseudoscience).

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

QuasiEvil (74356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368823)

You needed anyone to actually debunk these things? One look at the picture and that was enough to debunk any functionality in my book.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (4, Funny)

Architect_sasyr (938685) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369261)

Note to self: Convert doomsday device to look like a hippy "good-vibe" machine.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (2, Funny)

Nethead (1563) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369453)

There is a strong connection between LSD and BSD. (and yeah, I've abused both.)

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

tsuki.kodomo (1447527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368803)

hahaha...uh, yes...reasonable lads. lol. Like so reasonable dude....lol

Re:"Orgone Generators" (2, Funny)

mofag (709856) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368837)

Well from the description it seems unlikely that the orgone generators interfere to any practical extent with the wifi so good for them! If building a few pretty sculptures turns the bad harmful wifi into good life-enhancing wifi then I'll have one too. Perhaps they could partner with Cisco to market value-addded hippie-friendly wifi?

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

LoadWB (592248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369333)

Please skip directly to "Profit!"

As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368877)

Seriously, how much more stupid is this that the middle east morons on both sides
who wont eat bacon or a ham-cheese sandwich because the bogeyman told then not to?

Its the same level of stupidity.

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (1)

no1home (1271260) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369157)

Um, actually, the pork thing was quite reasonable in its time. The prohibition against eating pork existed for simple health reasons. Before refrigeration, it was just too easy for pork to go bad and develop trichinosis. Now, the modern practice is rather silly since we scientifically understand it and can prevent problems by keeping the pork cold enough before cooking or serving. How did we get from ancient health code to modern dogma? In ancient times, rules of conduct (social values, health codes, who can breed with whom) were passed down by religion! And all too often, religion becomes thoughtlessly followed dogma. (Before anybody berates me with biblical info, I am aware that the pork prohibition is related to the prohibition against any cloven-footed animal.)

So, in a more concise answer to your question of how this hippie thing is any more stupid than the pork thing, the pork thing may now be dogma, but it comes from a valid reason whereas the hippies have access to modern science to tell them they're full of shit.

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (2, Insightful)

Chalnoth (1334923) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369181)

This is why you cure ham. This process is very common all across Southern Europe, and works quite well to disinfect the product. Basically, the restriction against eating ham only cropped up just because there was an unusual ancient tribe some thousands of years ago that didn't raise pigs. Somehow they got this practice into their holy books and, well, the rest is history.

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369281)

Pork still isn't that healthy to eat today, loaded with fat and about half the world population does not have refrigerators or freezers or adequate means to eat it safely

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (1)

umghhh (965931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369503)

If they cannot control their environment which they perceive harming then putting whatever makes them feel better is a good thing.
If you compare it with habits and beliefs of general population or even /.ers you may find that those are not that much different in structure and effects and looking at hatred and lack of respect that is usually associated with any discussion involving religion/belifs (on /. and elsewhere) you may conclude that the conduct of hippies is rather sensible. At least they did not blow anybody up or shot with shotgun as it seems to be the habit of late.

Interestingly your story about how trichinosis has something to do with storage of pork is a good example of how 'well' informed general population is. For your information - the warms that live in pigs flesh and which cause the disease if humans consume such badly processed (cooking is killing the larva) flesh need living mammal to develop. So it is not meat going bad before consumption but meat being infected before the animal got sliced into your nice piece of ham. There could be other reasons why pork is not allowed in certain cultures - economic concerns for instance.

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (1)

profplump (309017) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369657)

First, you're assuming that the dogma was created for an originally valid reason. It may have been -- your theory is not totally unreasonable. But by and large the world did not understand communicable or food-borne diseases until very recently, and while your reasoning is logical given modern knowledge it's a stretch to say some ancient politician reached the same conclusions without that knowledge. Even the ancient reasoning was similar to what you describe -- if someone observed better health in populations that avoided pigs -- it is extremely unlikely that anyone studied enough populations to collect anything other than an anecdote or two, and therefore the decision was no more based on science than modern hippie dogma. And without any particular evidence relating to the reasoning behind the law it's entirely possible that pigs are verboten simply because some ancient politician wanted to put his pig-owning business competitors out-of-business.

Second, modern Jews and Muslims both have access to modern science, modern food preparation and butchering techniques, and most have access to refrigeration. If "hippies have access to modern science" is enough reason to call hippie dogma dumb then "Jews have access to modern science" is enough reason to call Jewish dogma dumb. But by definition dogma operates in opposition to science -- dogma is not to be questioned -- so you can't expect scientific reasoning to be used to overturn dogma.

Third, I'd argue that a typical person <i>does not</i> have access to modern science. Certainly society as a whole has a whole has the requisite knowledge to make an informed decision, and certain individuals may as well, but the average person has a very poor understanding of "modern science" and treats most of the "science" they do know as nothing more than modern cultural dogma.

Re:As reasonable as the morons who wont eat ham (1)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369687)

You don't need an intelligent designer.

By pure "evolution" of religions the people with benificial rules would be more succesfull and more likely to outcompete others.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368949)

Wait... if Orgone Generators convert bad energy into good energy... then wouldn't the Wifi network be increasing the amount of Good energy with sufficient Orgone installation?

The Wifi installation is actually increasing the input energy amount and should be praised for bring peace and stability.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369213)

Many believed that X-Rays were just magic and illusion, now we know they illuminate fractures. Im not saying that the WiFi is bad but myths of laylines and magnetic fields have correlations. We know other animals can sense electromagnetic fields, so maybe we can too. Science is a discovery not a creation activity, and it simply has not caught up with our bodies.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

mr100percent (57156) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369301)

Just tell them that the generators are actually mini-daleks

Re:"Orgone Generators" (5, Funny)

LoadWB (592248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369327)

I have to call shenanigans on the whole "negative energy" thing.

For one example, take a microwave oven. You put something in, turn it on, and the item cooks. That is an exhibit of POSITIVE energy flow. If you put a hippie in the microwave, the magnetron emissions does not suck the life energy out of the hippie, the hippie's life energy is released from its oppressive corporeal representation into the next higher plane. Ergo, another positive energy transfer! Come on, hippies... we are talking technology-assisted ascension!

And TVs, radios, etc. POSITIVE energy. In all cases we are using technology to enhance nature, similarly to the way hippies use crystals, precious metals, and *ahem* herbs to enhance nature.

Or at least that is how it works in my head.
--
Free Waterfall, Jr.: "We taught a lion to eat tofu!"
Lion, sickly and emaciated: *cough* *cough*
--
Lur: "Ohhhh, there must've been something bad in the hippie I ate..." [/futurama]

Re:"Orgone Generators" (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369625)

I have to call shenanigans on the whole "negative energy" thing.

If you put a hippie in the microwave, the magnetron emissions does not suck the life energy out of the hippie ...

Of course it doesn't suck the life energy out of the hippie. You can't suck life energy out of something that doesn't have a life.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

Yuuki Dasu (1416345) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369649)

Oh yes, these sound like reasonable people.

Just to be fair, there's no reason to say that all or even most of the people complaining think that Orgone isn't full of shit.

That sounds to me like either someone on the fringe of their fringe, or someone trying to catch some free publicity and sell some snake oil to some of the dumber locals (hippies can be just as dumb and just as smart as any other group of people).

I highly doubt that anyone's being affected, but if they're making such a fuss as they say in the Fine Article, they might as well look into it.

Re:"Orgone Generators" (1)

Vanders (110092) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369683)

You laugh now, but just wait until he starts selling these things to Audiophiles at £10,000 a pop.

They have it all wrong (1)

Shadow7789 (1000101) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368693)

Everyone knows it's cell phones that cause health problems.

hippies (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368695)

I think it's funny that the hippie movement in SF imploded within months.

23 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368699)

Consult your pineal gland. :^)

All things are true (1)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369153)

Even the false things.

Old news (0, Troll)

Forthan Red (820542) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368705)

We're recycling week-old news now?

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368889)

I know, usually its more like month or year old! I'm very impressed with idle right now!

Was interested until... (0, Troll)

alienunknown (1279178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368717)

I know there are groups out there that are against wifi for many kooky reasons but fox news has as much credibility as the onion.

Re:Was interested until... (1)

alienunknown (1279178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368815)

For some reason someone has marked me as a troll but I wasn't trolling, I was merely trying to refer to how fox news seems to sensationalise their news. There is always some reference to some group that they have an agenda against. I'm surprised they weren't labelled as video-game loving/DnD-playing hippies.

I am just a bit cautious about the credibility of their news articles.

Re:Was interested until... (0, Troll)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368885)

it's entirely possible (and quite likely) that the groups cited in TFA, AND Fox News are both fecking morons

Very sensitive people? (1, Interesting)

tsa (15680) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368721)

I read once that people who work on the antennas in mobile communication towers suffer from headaches, dizziness, nausea, severe tiredness, brain fog, disorientation and loss of appetite, loss of balance, and an inability to concentrate if they are exposed to the radiation for too long. So maybe those hippies are just extremely sensitive people. Do they use mobile phones?

Re:Very sensitive people? (3, Informative)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368887)

They're not. It's been tested far more than something like this deserves. Their problems always magically disappear the second they're put into a double blinded test.

Re:Very sensitive people? (0)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368893)

A lot of those towers use pretty hefty microwave transmitters for line-of-sight transmissions. Right in the center of the beam, it's strong enough to kill birds in seconds. Right at the edges, it's enough to cause organ damage over long periods of time.

There's a huge difference between low-grade microwave emissions exposure and exposure to the frequencies used for wifi.

Re:Very sensitive people? (4, Insightful)

topham (32406) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368899)

Assuming for a moment it's true; are you aware of the inverse-square law?

Get this, working on an antenna broadcasting at several hundred thousand watts is worse than sitting 2ft from a 1 watt (at most) transmitter...

Re:Very sensitive people? (3, Insightful)

tsa (15680) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368941)

Yes I am aware of the inverse square law. My point was that if the hippies really suffer from what they claim, they must be very sensitive to electromagnetic radiation in the microwave range because WiFi usually transmits using even less power than a mobile phone. So if they use mobile phones but say they suffer from the WiFi radiation they're likely to be affected by somethning else. I should have written it down more clearly though.

Re:Very sensitive people? (3, Funny)

Nethead (1563) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369437)

Er, how about us hippie broadcast engineers? I know not to climb a FM tower while it is live and I know not to touch an AM tower and the ground at the same time (you have to jump to the tower to change the light blubs :)

Re:Very sensitive people? (3, Interesting)

Rennt (582550) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369393)

I've done maintenance work on these antenna's, and the safety warnings are no joke. Worksafe regulations forbid you from hanging in front of the drum unless the powersource has been isolated. A couple of people are killed every year because they didn't follow guidelines and had their internal organs cooked.

Having said that, wifi (radio frequency radiation) has nothing to do with this kind of high power directed microwave radiation and is completely harmless - just don't get them confused.

BOOO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368769)

BOOOOOORING

Donny: What did he say, Dude? (0, Offtopic)

tshetter (854143) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368775)

Shut the fuck up Donny!

/You're out of you're element!!

Re:Donny: What did he say, Dude? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368835)

This is what happens when you fuck a hippie in the ass.

Nutcases (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368777)

Great, now any time someone suggests investigating whether or not Wifi has any long term effect on peoples health, they'll get lumped together with this group of crazy people.

Re:Nutcases (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369389)

Good, because they belong there. Funny how all these "health effects" dissapear as soon as you do a double blind study.

Finally a practical use for orgonne technology, (1)

Plazmid (1132467) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368785)

making hippies think they are protected from "harmful" radio waves, so other people can enjoy the internet.

Maybe it only hurts vegetarians... (1)

Narcocide (102829) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368787)

fruit bruises easily too

I got an Orgone Accumulator (1)

thewils (463314) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368791)

...and it makes me feel greater.
I'll see you sometime later
When I'm through with my Accumulator.

Re:I got an Orgone Accumulator (1)

germansausage (682057) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368973)

Yes! Hawkwind. In case of sonic attack on your district follow these rules....

Yess! (1)

no-body (127863) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368817)

I love it! Replaced my wireless router with Gbit wiring in the house; works much better.
Will put up a sleeping pyramid and several orgon collectors as well to compensate for the remaining waves.

I mean - where is all the crap on the planet coming from?

Nobody gives a shit about it any more. Gotta start somewhere cleaning up.

Re:Yess! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368951)

You remind me of what it's like chatting on IRC at 6 in the morning. As in, you sound like a pissed Aussie who's almost too drunk to type. Why are their so many pissed Aussies on IRC? All laughing at their own jokes in all CAPS and calling everyone else gay. /me slaps all people found typing and drinking

Million-dollar idea for somebody (5, Interesting)

Tsar (536185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368829)

1. Buy a couple hundred acres in the National Radio Quiet Zone [nrao.edu] and build a resort/spa/retirement community for all the well-heeled electromagnetophobes.

2. Quietly buy up as much of the valley as you can, then support campaigns to get Blue Cross and Medicare to cover electromagnetic hypersensitivity [wikipedia.org] .

3. Profit.

I'd do it, but I don't believe I could live with myself. Especially if I had to give up ubiquitous broadband.

Re:Million-dollar idea for somebody (4, Informative)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368965)

It's not that quiet there. The coordinator of the zone has been very cooperative with ham radio operators and other users. It's only necessary for the coordinator to protect their radio-astronomy project, not to shut off RF entirely.

Re:Million-dollar idea for somebody (2, Funny)

anaphora (680342) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369067)

This place can't be real. If they don't have the internet or radios, how would we have heard about it?

Orgone Accumulator (1)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369247)

I've got an orgone accumulator
It makes me feel greater
I'll see you sometime later
When I'm through with my accumulator
It's no social integrator
It's a one man isolator
It's a back brain stimulator
It's a cerebral vibrator
Those energy stimulators
Just turn your eyeballs into craters
But an orgone accumulator
Is a superman creator
It's no social integrator
It's a one man isolator
It's a back brain stimulator
It's a cerebral vibrator
I've got an orgone accumulator
And it makes me feel greater
I'll see you sometime later
When I'm through with my accumulator.

Just crack open the throttle on that Silver Machine... I'm standing on the runway waiting for takeoff...

Re:Million-dollar idea for somebody (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369491)

Amish people have a patent for that anyway

It's not the wireless signal (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368853)

They will start feeling better if they eat meat and bathe daily.

Commant (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26368881)

FiWi connectians doesn't mess up your ability to think, you knough.

Re:Commant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369217)

Iams serious. Why was I moderationed funny?

Very funny, indeed *YAWN* (-1, Flamebait)

jandersen (462034) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368913)

The article, of course, makes no mention of hippies, but perhaps to the submitter of this bit of tripe, if you are of another faith, you are either a hippie or a terrorist.

In the rest of the world you don't have to be a "hippie" in order to believe in chakras (a Hindu term), yoga (another one), druidism, ley-lines or any other such things. All this submission actually tells us is that the right honourable tosser, his grace Samzenpus, is a narrow minded bigot who hasn't got a clue and enjoys advertising that very fact to the global community.

Ouch, that's rather scathing!!! (1)

Klootzak (824076) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369005)

Use Humor instead: In other news Samzenpus was seen wearing his "Respect My Authoritah" Cartman T-shirt while adding this to the mainpage ;)

Re:Very funny, indeed *YAWN* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369113)

But it does mention Glastonbury. Google it?

Residents, not hippies (4, Interesting)

bornwaysouth (1138751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26368955)

It is not a bunch of hippies doing the complaining, it is the residents. They have little use for the WiFi, which has been used 422 times in 6 months. I suspect the locals know exactly what they want. Maintaining jobs and a way of life, which draws on 5000 years of hocus pocus. Orgone generators are right in there as a mix of crystals and gold and romanticism.

  As for the headaches? Quite genuine reporting I'd say. My father told me that a satellite receiving station near where he worked was found to generate a wide mix of ills in the 3 months following its official opening. This was not published because it would have embarrassed the Minister. Due to a cock-up in parts supply, they faked the opening and it sat idle but impressive whilst headaches abounded.

Headaches occur, and people want causes assigned. It's a matter of opinion whether it is better to blame an aerial or a spell cast by a witch. Just so long as the majority have a good laugh in the pub in the off-season. Witchcraft is a bit like Royalty. A good historical reason for people to kill each other, but really just a useful source of tourist dollars these days.

See "Bad science" (4, Informative)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369387)

It's worse than you realise. This is being led by people who have a vested interest in peddling FUD - one of the "protestors" claims to run an independent consultancy on EMC, but actually runs a company that sells tinfoil hats and so on. (See the Ben Goldacre Bad Science columns in the Guardian for information). The real issue seems to be that Glastonbury has a small but vocal number of people who don't want the town to develop, and want to stop anything that might make it more attractive to small businesses.

The local paper (Fosse Way) published this story without the slightest critical analysis whatsoever. As someone who has worked on, inter alia, the EMC Directive, I wrote to them asking whether the person complaining of headaches had taken part in a blind test. Perhaps needless to say, the letter has not been published and indeed I've had no acknowledgement of it.

BTW, they do not have a "way of life which draws on 5000 years of hocus pocus". The Glastonbury thing dates back to no more than the 19th century: it's as fake as Druidism in Wales. Glastonbury is just a small town in Somerset that used to make its money from the leather industry till it went bust under Thatcher. Now it's a retirement suburb, the most Conservative part of the district. Currently a few protestors are trying to stop the demolition of the old factory buildings to put up an industrial estate - the old buildings cannot be brought up to modern standards and are a complete eyesore.

Why do I complain about this? Because I live in the part of Somerset that is a net contributor of taxes to keep the residents of Glastonbury from having to have industry and jobs, that's why.

Re:See "Bad science" (3, Interesting)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369613)

I know its bad science but I am not sure that it hinders Glastonbury's business. Every other shop sells crystals, mystic books, figurines that will improve yoir fertility and so on. It could even aid business, someone will cash in on the idea that Glastonbury is protected by Orgone generators to sell ones you can take home to protect your own environment.

As religions go its not that bad. Nobody calls for death to those who use the wrong type of crystal or prefers herbalism to energy fields.

Re:Residents, not hippies (1)

andersa (687550) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369507)

Main Entry: hippie
Variant(s): or hippy \hi-p\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural hippies
Etymology: 4hip + -ie
Date: 1965

: a person who rejects the mores of established society (such as WiFi-networks) and advocates a nonviolent ethic ; broadly : a long-haired unconventionally dressed badly informed person
-- hippiedom \-p-dm\ noun
-- hippieish \-p-ish\ adjective
-- hippieness or hippiness \-p-ns\ noun

Hippies Smell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369043)

#1. Take responsibilities for you statements and more importantly actions - Period.
#2. See #1
#3 If in doubt... fuck you.... hippies. Grow up.

Yeah ... (1)

edahl (1428343) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369049)

Warning: Hippies may or may not cause nausea and contempt towards said group. I've heard a lot of these kinds of incidents lately. Some douche has a bright idea on something that might cause a health hazard if they put som effort into it, and suddenly, you've got children and mothers and hippies everywhere with electro magnetic and WiFi allergies. *MEH*

Re:Yeah ... (4, Interesting)

cliffski (65094) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369493)

The problem with wifi health scares is the same as with nuclear health scares. Regardless of whether the pro-wifi and pro-nuclear groups are right or wrong, they are terrible at public relations. In both cases, the default response to public health concern is a derisory snort and the tendency to talk down to the people raising the concern as though they are idiots. People who do not work as engineers or biologists are not idiots, as you find out when you have to employ said people for more money than you earn to fix your plumbing or do your accounts. They are just not privy to the same understanding of the relevant issue as you are.

The same problem occurred big time in the UK with the MMR injections. The state talked down to concerned parents and treated them like idiots, the net result of which was to make them even more determined that there must be a scandal and a cover-up. Talk sensibly about the health risks of wifi (such that they exist) and show how such things have been tested independently and shown to be of no concern, and you will win-out. Laughing at anyone who raises concerns may make geeks feel smug, but it's a losing strategy and always will be.

Re:Yeah ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369611)

I know I'm just an A.C., but somebody seriously ought ta mod the parent up some. Very insightful, for a Slashdot poster.

Studies? (0, Troll)

nick_davison (217681) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369059)

Although there have been many studies that show no correlation between WiFi and health issues

More or less studies than have shown cigarettes are awesome for you and everyone should smoke them?

Or that global warming doesn't exist?

That Microsoft operating systems has a lower total cost of ownership than Linux?

That DDT, Agent Orange and Thalidamide are all totally safe?

To be fair to the hippies, there is a fairly long history of things being repeatedly investigated and found to be safe... right up until they were found not to be.

Unless you live in the state of California - where everything, including reading this post, can give you cancer and needs to carry a warning message, just to be on the safe side.

It does, however, remain true that a Guiness a day will, indeed, keep the doctor away.

See for yourself. (1)

shockwaverider (78582) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369091)

I was at Glastonbury for the winter solstice and was chuckling to myself at this story in the local newspaper.

The company that runs the WiFi also provides some high quality streaming webcams - See for yourself.....

http://www.checkglastonburylive.com/

Oh noes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369105)

Don't forget, wifi also eats babies [wellingtongrey.net] !

umm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369143)

What does "idleispants" mean?

THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING - BACK FROM RETIREMENT (1)

ThinkAboutYourBreath (735770) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369167)

Hello you are reading the THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING TROLL!
Yes that's right, THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING. Why you might ask? Well it's simple!
Your brain usually takes care of breathing FOR you, but whenever you remember this, YOU MUST MANUALLY BREATH! If you don't you will DIE.
There are also MANY variations of this. For example, think about:
1. BLINKING!
1. SWALLOWING SALIVA!
1. HOW YOUR FEET FEEL IN YOUR SOCKS!
1. THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING AGAIN!
In conclusion, the THINK ABOUT YOUR BREATHING troll is simply unbeatable. These 4 words can be thrown randomly into article text trolls, into sigs, into anything, and once seen, WILL FORCE THE VICTIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS BREATHING MANUALLY! This goes far beyond the simple annoying or insulting trolls of yesteryear.
In fact, by EVEN RESPONDING to this troll, you are proving that IT HAS CLAIMED ANOTHER VICTIM -- YOU!

ob: south park quote (5, Funny)

Kierthos (225954) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369185)

hippies... hippies... they say they want to save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.

Re:ob: south park quote (2, Funny)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369615)

hippies... hippies... they say they want to save the world, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.

Compared with Geeks who drink black coffee and smell bad.

tin foil hat wearing.... (1)

Phusion0 (665359) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369299)

Yeah, you may remember this story from March '08 about the norcal hippy town that turned down free public wifi from Sonic.net due to health concerns.... -->> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/26/0118237 [slashdot.org] I live in that little town and I love my hippy brethren, but they're fucking nuts. I want my WiFi, damn it... every time I try to educate someone on the subject I get the same kind of "that's just, like, your opinion, man" response. I guess I'm stuck leeching wifi around the residential areas.... *sigh*

hangin' fine with the kind (1)

Nethead (1563) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369411)

I'm an old hippie that is into ham radio, ex-broadcast engineer, wifi junkie, and general RF geek. I can report that my charkras are fine and dandy. See how they glow.

Receptionist (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 5 years ago | (#26369545)

The receptionist at work complained that she started getting rashes and other symptoms after we installed a wifi repeater outside her office door, claiming she's electrical sensitive [wikipedia.org] . The problem was that the wifi wasn't even up and running until a few weeks later when the mesh was finished. And also she doesn't have a problem with the cell phone in her pocket which is orders of magnitude more powerful... And she claims that her alarm radio is sending radio-waves at her during the night and waking her up. That's the idea and you get the picture... Some people here have good fun.

English people don't say "like", feckwit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26369641)

There is absolutely no way an English hippie would talk like that.
Sod off with your US stereotypes, tosser.

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